Presidential Approval Ratings

 

I was just reading this article stating that President Brandon’s approval ratings have sharply dropped since the SVB fiasco. The drop is from 45% to 38% from last month.

These results are curious to me; 7% of the sample group suddenly decided this POTUS went from good to bad? I must have a really poor grasp on what these numbers represent. A whole slew of Americans thought that he was doing fine and changed their minds over this?

The economy has been a mess since this buffoon moved into the White House, and now they notice? I guess I just don’t get it. I’ve never been asked if I approved of a POTUS’s performance in office; the questions and sampling methods must be interesting.

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  1. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    How was it ever as high as 45%?

    Man, can you imagine if we had a media who covered Biden honestly instead of covering for him?

    Can you imagine if we had a well-informed citizenry?

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  2. HeavyWater Inactive
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    My hypothesis is that there are a significant number of Democrats who don’t like it when banks get bailed out.  So, that is showing up in Biden’s approval ratings.  

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  3. BDB Inactive
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    Disgusting that it was ever at 45%.  Ever.

    There’s a reason that I was heartbroken when Obama was re-elected.  I said before that election that that one was for all the marbles, and I meant it.  I view the Trump phenomenon as an Indian Summer.

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  4. Bishop Wash Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Man, can you imagine if we had a media who covered Biden honestly instead of covering for him?

    Got a bit of that demonstrated this week when the press corps attacked one of their own instead of sticking up for him. A reporter asked Affirmative Action Hire why he had never been called on in eight months and instead of reporters in the room asking, “Yeah. Why is that?”, they turned on him and shouted him down.

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  5. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Man, can you imagine if we had a media who covered Biden honestly instead of covering for him?

    Got a bit of that demonstrated this week when the press corps attacked one of their own instead of sticking up for him. A reporter asked Affirmative Action Hire why he had never been called on in eight months and instead of reporters in the room asking, “Yeah. Why is that?”, they turned on him and shouted him down.

    Oh, was that the dude from Africa Today?

    Been reading a bit about that, but didn’t see the Incident.

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  6. HeavyWater Inactive
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    BDB (View Comment):

    Disgusting that it was ever at 45%. Ever.

    There’s a reason that I was heartbroken when Obama was re-elected. I said before that election that that one was for all the marbles, and I meant it. I view the Trump phenomenon as an Indian Summer.

    Regarding Obama being re-elected, it is very unusual for a president who didn’t follow a president from his own political party (as George H W Bush followed Reagan) to lose a re-election bid.

    What was unusual about Obama’s 2012 re-election was that he won with a smaller share of the vote than he won with in 2008.  Usually a president wins re-election, but with a higher share of the vote.

    FDR in 1936 got a higher share than in 1932.

    Eisenhower in 1956 got a higher than in 1952.

    LBJ in 1964 got a higher share than JFK did in 1960.

    Nixon in 1972 got a higher share than in 1968.

    Carter’s 1980 re-election bid was unusual in that he didn’t win re-election, the first to not do so since Herbert Hoover in 1932, but Hoover was lost after the GOP held the White House for 12 consecutive years while Carter lost in 1980 after the Democrat party held the White House for only 4 consecutive years.

    Reagan in 1984 got a higher share than in 1980.

    I think Trump would have won re-election in 2020 if he had simply let Mike Pence be his spokesman, rather than making all kinds of verbal errors in the 2020 election year.  But that’s speculation on my part.

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  7. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    I like how Stephen Kruiser calls him “President LOL81MILLION”!

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  8. HeavyWater Inactive
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    We have to remember that Biden was not a very strong candidate in 2020, but Trump was an unusually weak candidate in 2020. 

    Lots of voters went to the voting booth in 2020 and voted for Republican candidates, but avoided voting for Trump, similar to how in Georgia in 2022 most voters voted for the Republican candidate for Governor but could not bring themselves to vote for the Republican candidate for US Senator. 

    Candidate quality matters in two senses.  A good candidate can draw lots of votes.  A bad candidate, like Trump, can motivate lots of normally apolitical and apathetic voters to go to the polls and vote for that candidate’s opponent. 

    Trump is the best thing the Democrats have going, their best get-out-the-vote operation ever.    

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  9. Old Bathos Member
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    Bank crashes do not affect welfare checks. For the truly unconscious Democratic voter, it is the crisis talk and fear in the air they don’t like and the Wizard of Oz  POTUS is supposed to prevent that sort of thing.  I suspect there is also a semi-informed white-collar segment that gives Biden a favorable rating because otherwise Adolf Trump and the MAGA hordes will ban abortions, kale, and solar panels. 

    It is truly amazing that the worst president in our history, a mendacious, incompetent, corrupt, and cognitively challenged malignant buffoon actively harming the nation and its economy could ever reach double digits in approval ratings.

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  10. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    Polls are irrelevant. The non-existent voters whose ballots are dumped and counted at three in the morning after the polls close don’t pay attention to opinion polls.

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  11. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Polls are irrelevant. The non-existent voters whose ballots are dumped and counted at three in the morning after the polls close don’t pay attention to opinion polls.

    Better: Votes don’t count. Ballots are what count.

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  12. HeavyWater Inactive
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    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Polls are irrelevant. The non-existent voters whose ballots are dumped and counted at three in the morning after the polls close don’t pay attention to opinion polls.

    If you can’t prove in a court of law that invalid ballots were counted at three in the morning, you are merely in Stacey Abrams territory.  

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  13. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Anyone here still believe Basement-Dwelling Biden got 81 million votes? More votes than any Presidential Candidate in history EVER?!

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  14. HeavyWater Inactive
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Anyone here still believe Basement-Dwelling Biden got 81 million votes? More votes than any Presidential Candidate in history EVER?!

    I think most of those 81 million voters were actually voting against Trump rather than for Biden.  

    Also, the population of the United States has increased over our presidential election cycles.  So, there are more people in the electorate, which means that even a candidate like Biden can get a huge number of votes.  

    But it’s mostly because Trump is so good at getting the Democrat vote out.  

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  15. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Anyone here still believe Basement-Dwelling Biden got 81 million votes? More votes than any Presidential Candidate in history EVER?!

    I think most of those 81 million voters were actually voting against Trump rather than for Biden.

    Also, the population of the United States has increased over our presidential election cycles. So, there are more people in the electorate, which means that even a candidate like Biden can get a huge number of votes.

    But it’s mostly because Trump is so good at getting the Democrat vote out.

    Yes, that’s the fable Trump haters tell themselves.

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  16. BDB Inactive
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Polls are irrelevant. The non-existent voters whose ballots are dumped and counted at three in the morning after the polls close don’t pay attention to opinion polls.

    If you can’t prove in a court of law that invalid ballots were counted at three in the morning, you are merely in Stacey Abrams territory.

    Yes, Comrade.  I am sure that you are correct.

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  17. kedavis Coolidge
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    Tex929rr: I’ve never been asked if I approved of a POTUS’s performance in office; the questions and sampling methods must be interesting. 

    You know all those times you answer the phone and someone says “Hello, we’re conducting a poll…” and you immediately hang up?

    That’s when they were going to ask you if you approved of a POTUS’s performance in office.

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  18. HeavyWater Inactive
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Anyone here still believe Basement-Dwelling Biden got 81 million votes? More votes than any Presidential Candidate in history EVER?!

    I think most of those 81 million voters were actually voting against Trump rather than for Biden.

    Also, the population of the United States has increased over our presidential election cycles. So, there are more people in the electorate, which means that even a candidate like Biden can get a huge number of votes.

    But it’s mostly because Trump is so good at getting the Democrat vote out.

    Yes, that’s the fable Trump haters tell themselves.

    Every time a candidate loses, some number of that candidate’s supporters adopts a view that their candidate didn’t actually lose; it was just that the election was stolen or not fairly held.

    In 2004 when George W. Bush beat John Kerry, many Democrats came up with the idea that there were voting machines in the crucial state of Ohio that were programmed to provide invalid votes for George W. Bush and this is why Bush beat Kerry in Ohio by about 100,000 votes.  

    This is what supporters of losing candidates always do to make themselves feel that they didn’t really lose.  They can’t admit that voters didn’t like their candidate.  

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  19. BDB Inactive
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Bank crashes do not affect welfare checks. For the truly unconscious Democratic voter, it is the crisis talk and fear in the air they don’t like and the Wizard of Oz POTUS is supposed to prevent that sort of thing. I suspect there is also a semi-informed white-collar segment that gives Biden a favorable rating because otherwise Adolf Trump and the MAGA hordes will ban abortions, kale, and solar panels.

    It is truly amazing that the worst president in our history, a mendacious, incompetent, corrupt, and cognitively challenged malignant buffoon actively harming the nation and its economy could ever reach double digits in approval ratings.

    Hubristic pollsters think that responents answer the question as asked, rather than giving the answer they want to give.

    These are different things.  Everybody knows which team they are on, and few actually care about the meaning of the question.

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  20. HeavyWater Inactive
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    BDB (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Polls are irrelevant. The non-existent voters whose ballots are dumped and counted at three in the morning after the polls close don’t pay attention to opinion polls.

    If you can’t prove in a court of law that invalid ballots were counted at three in the morning, you are merely in Stacey Abrams territory.

    Yes, Comrade. I am sure that you are correct.

    Ok.  Stacey.  

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  21. BDB Inactive
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    BDB (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Polls are irrelevant. The non-existent voters whose ballots are dumped and counted at three in the morning after the polls close don’t pay attention to opinion polls.

    If you can’t prove in a court of law that invalid ballots were counted at three in the morning, you are merely in Stacey Abrams territory.

    Yes, Comrade. I am sure that you are correct.

    Ok. Stacey.

    Today the chocolate ration was increased from 15 to 10 grams.  Praise Socialism!

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  22. Bishop Wash Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Man, can you imagine if we had a media who covered Biden honestly instead of covering for him?

    Got a bit of that demonstrated this week when the press corps attacked one of their own instead of sticking up for him. A reporter asked Affirmative Action Hire why he had never been called on in eight months and instead of reporters in the room asking, “Yeah. Why is that?”, they turned on him and shouted him down.

    Oh, was that the dude from Africa Today?

    Been reading a bit about that, but didn’t see the Incident.

    I think so. I’ve only heard audio from it.

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  23. Bishop Wash Member
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    BDB (View Comment):

    Disgusting that it was ever at 45%. Ever.

    There’s a reason that I was heartbroken when Obama was re-elected. I said before that election that that one was for all the marbles, and I meant it. I view the Trump phenomenon as an Indian Summer.

    Regarding Obama being re-elected, it is very unusual for a president who didn’t follow a president from his own political party (as George H W Bush followed Reagan) to lose a re-election bid.

    What was unusual about Obama’s 2012 re-election was that he won with a smaller share of the vote than he won with in 2008. Usually a president wins re-election, but with a higher share of the vote.

    FDR in 1936 got a higher share than in 1932.

    Eisenhower in 1956 got a higher than in 1952.

    LBJ in 1964 got a higher share than JFK did in 1960.

    Nixon in 1972 got a higher share than in 1968.

    Carter’s 1980 re-election bid was unusual in that he didn’t win re-election, the first to not do so since Herbert Hoover in 1932, but Hoover was lost after the GOP held the White House for 12 consecutive years while Carter lost in 1980 after the Democrat party held the White House for only 4 consecutive years.

    Reagan in 1984 got a higher share than in 1980.

    I think Trump would have won re-election in 2020 if he had simply let Mike Pence be his spokesman, rather than making all kinds of verbal errors in the 2020 election year. But that’s speculation on my part.

    Trump got a higher share in 2020 than in 2016. 

    Biden* magically had more ballots than Obama or Hillary and just enough found at 0300 to allow him to be installed.

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  24. HeavyWater Inactive
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    BDB (View Comment):

    Disgusting that it was ever at 45%. Ever.

    There’s a reason that I was heartbroken when Obama was re-elected. I said before that election that that one was for all the marbles, and I meant it. I view the Trump phenomenon as an Indian Summer.

    Regarding Obama being re-elected, it is very unusual for a president who didn’t follow a president from his own political party (as George H W Bush followed Reagan) to lose a re-election bid.

    What was unusual about Obama’s 2012 re-election was that he won with a smaller share of the vote than he won with in 2008. Usually a president wins re-election, but with a higher share of the vote.

    FDR in 1936 got a higher share than in 1932.

    Eisenhower in 1956 got a higher than in 1952.

    LBJ in 1964 got a higher share than JFK did in 1960.

    Nixon in 1972 got a higher share than in 1968.

    Carter’s 1980 re-election bid was unusual in that he didn’t win re-election, the first to not do so since Herbert Hoover in 1932, but Hoover was lost after the GOP held the White House for 12 consecutive years while Carter lost in 1980 after the Democrat party held the White House for only 4 consecutive years.

    Reagan in 1984 got a higher share than in 1980.

    I think Trump would have won re-election in 2020 if he had simply let Mike Pence be his spokesman, rather than making all kinds of verbal errors in the 2020 election year. But that’s speculation on my part.

    Trump got a higher share in 2020 than in 2016.

    Biden* magically had more ballots than Obama or Hillary and just enough found at 0300 to allow him to be installed.

    Trump got 45.93 percent in 2016 and got 46.80 percent in 2020.  

    Hillary Clinton got 48.02 percent in 2016 and Biden got 51.26 percent in 2020.  It seems that much of the votes for the Green candidate and the libertarian candidate in 2016 went to Biden in 2020.  

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  25. kedavis Coolidge
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    BDB (View Comment):

    Disgusting that it was ever at 45%. Ever.

    There’s a reason that I was heartbroken when Obama was re-elected. I said before that election that that one was for all the marbles, and I meant it. I view the Trump phenomenon as an Indian Summer.

    Regarding Obama being re-elected, it is very unusual for a president who didn’t follow a president from his own political party (as George H W Bush followed Reagan) to lose a re-election bid.

    What was unusual about Obama’s 2012 re-election was that he won with a smaller share of the vote than he won with in 2008. Usually a president wins re-election, but with a higher share of the vote.

    FDR in 1936 got a higher share than in 1932.

    Eisenhower in 1956 got a higher than in 1952.

    LBJ in 1964 got a higher share than JFK did in 1960.

    Nixon in 1972 got a higher share than in 1968.

    Carter’s 1980 re-election bid was unusual in that he didn’t win re-election, the first to not do so since Herbert Hoover in 1932, but Hoover was lost after the GOP held the White House for 12 consecutive years while Carter lost in 1980 after the Democrat party held the White House for only 4 consecutive years.

    Reagan in 1984 got a higher share than in 1980.

    I think Trump would have won re-election in 2020 if he had simply let Mike Pence be his spokesman, rather than making all kinds of verbal errors in the 2020 election year. But that’s speculation on my part.

    Trump got a higher share in 2020 than in 2016.

    Biden* magically had more ballots than Obama or Hillary and just enough found at 0300 to allow him to be installed.

    And thousands of ballots that apparently had the identical time-stamp…

     

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  26. Tex929rr Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Tex929rr: I’ve never been asked if I approved of a POTUS’s performance in office; the questions and sampling methods must be interesting.

    You know all those times you answer the phone and someone says “Hello, we’re conducting a poll…” and you immediately hang up?

    That’s when they were going to ask you if you approved of a POTUS’s performance in office.

    Kind of what I figure. We dumped our land line a while ago and my mobile carrier labels many unknown callers as “spam risk”, so my odds of answering a pollster calling are close to zero. 

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  27. Bishop Wash Member
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    BDB (View Comment):

    Disgusting that it was ever at 45%. Ever.

    There’s a reason that I was heartbroken when Obama was re-elected. I said before that election that that one was for all the marbles, and I meant it. I view the Trump phenomenon as an Indian Summer.

    Regarding Obama being re-elected, it is very unusual for a president who didn’t follow a president from his own political party (as George H W Bush followed Reagan) to lose a re-election bid.

    What was unusual about Obama’s 2012 re-election was that he won with a smaller share of the vote than he won with in 2008. Usually a president wins re-election, but with a higher share of the vote.

    FDR in 1936 got a higher share than in 1932.

    Eisenhower in 1956 got a higher than in 1952.

    LBJ in 1964 got a higher share than JFK did in 1960.

    Nixon in 1972 got a higher share than in 1968.

    Carter’s 1980 re-election bid was unusual in that he didn’t win re-election, the first to not do so since Herbert Hoover in 1932, but Hoover was lost after the GOP held the White House for 12 consecutive years while Carter lost in 1980 after the Democrat party held the White House for only 4 consecutive years.

    Reagan in 1984 got a higher share than in 1980.

    I think Trump would have won re-election in 2020 if he had simply let Mike Pence be his spokesman, rather than making all kinds of verbal errors in the 2020 election year. But that’s speculation on my part.

    Trump got a higher share in 2020 than in 2016.

    Biden* magically had more ballots than Obama or Hillary and just enough found at 0300 to allow him to be installed.

    Trump got 45.93 percent in 2016 and got 46.80 percent in 2020.

    Hillary Clinton got 48.02 percent in 2016 and Biden got 51.26 percent in 2020. It seems that much of the votes for the Green candidate and the libertarian candidate in 2016 went to Biden in 2020.

    I was talking about how Trump increased his vote total overall. He improved in all demographic categories, except two. 

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  28. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    If you can’t prove in a court of law that invalid ballots were counted at three in the morning, you are merely in Stacey Abrams territory.  

    And you cannot prove it in a court of law if the courts deny you standing and refuse to review evidence. 

    The Junkmail fraud system is legally bulletproof. 

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  29. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    This is what supporters of losing candidates always do to make themselves feel that they didn’t really lose.  They can’t admit that voters didn’t like their candidate.

    So you are saying that millions of Junkmail  ballots, sent out to voter address rolls that haven’t been updated in decades, harvested by Democrat activist groups, counted with barely any verification standards, had no effect on the elections of 2020 and 2022.

    Because politicians and political activists are of such flawless moral character that none would ever take advantage of a system that makes vote fraud so easy.

     

     

     

     

     

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  30. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Anyone here still believe Basement-Dwelling Biden got 81 million votes? More votes than any Presidential Candidate in history EVER?!

    I’ll bet he got over 50 million votes.

    Which is yet another sign that our republic cannot be salvaged…

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