McCarthy Elected Speaker of the House on 15th Vote

 

Following four days of voting, negotiations, and drama, Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) has been elected Speaker of the House on the 15th ballot.

McCarthy garnered 216 votes after several early holdouts voted in his favor. Six other GOP holdouts voted “present”: Reps. Andy Biggs (R–AZ), Lauren Boebert (R–CO), Eli Crane (R–AZ), Matt Gaetz (R–FL), Bob Good (R–VA), and Matt Rosendale (R–MT). This lowered the number of votes McCarthy needed to grant him the Speaker’s gavel.

Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D–NY) gained 212 votes. The vote was concluded shortly after midnight.

In the 14th round of voting, McCarthy confronted Rep. Matt Gaetz, whose vote on that ballot would have given McCarthy the win. A motion to adjourn failed, so the 15th ballot moved forward.

With the Speakership settled, the House can finally get back to the important business of borrowing several trillions of dollars for unnecessary projects.

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  1. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    David C. Broussard (View Comment):

    Randy Weivoda (View Comment):

    I wonder if Representative Matt Gaetz will make good on his threat to resign, should McCarthy prevail.

    As I recall what he said was he would resign if McCarthy won with Democratic votes.

    Ah, thanks.

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  2. Percival Thatcher
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    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):
    That is funny – should be on t-shirts and bumper stickers!

    I got the picture from @9thdistrictneighbor.

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  3. RufusRJones Member
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    Just reporting…

     

     

     

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  4. RufusRJones Member
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    I have worked in the House in various roles since I was a House leadership page in the 1970s and, much later, represented the House in litigation. I’ve watched the body become less transparent, less deliberative, with every passing year.

    The Framers saw the House as a powerful forum to address factions in society, a legislative crucible where different interests could be expressed and resolved in majoritarian compromise. The legislative process can inform citizens while exposing legislative proposals to public scrutiny. But that process has been largely replaced with a series of robotic, preordained votes.

     

    Nancy Pelosi consolidated her power by eliminating a rule that allowed any member to make a motion to vacate the chair, a type of legislative no-confidence vote. Pelosi eliminated the one-member rule and, instead, required a majority of either party to make such a motion. Some Republicans wanted that check on the speaker to be reinstated.

     

    The GOP holdouts sought to end massive spending bills moved forward with little time to read the legislation. They want a minimum 72-hour review period and a reduction of massive omnibus bills, to allow members and the public to better understand what is being passed.

    The concessions reportedly include “open rules” on all major rules bills, such as appropriations, to allow lawmakers to offer amendments on the floor. It would restore an amendment process that was gutted in recent sessions, benefiting Democrats and Republicans alike.

     

    All of this challenges a status quo which seems inviolate to many in the media.

    Yes, there are demands in the concessions that some of us do not favor. However, we should be honest about the status quo: Today’s legislative system is a mockery of the deliberative process, characterized by runaway spending, blind voting and perfunctory debates. You can dislike or denounce the holdouts while still admitting they have a point — Congress has got to change.

     

     

     

     

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  5. genferei Member
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    Suspira (View Comment):

    Thank goodness that clown show is over. I only hope voters are able to forget it, but I fear the impression it has left could be lasting.

    But this impression is not rooted in reality – which was committee politics playing out as intended – but exists because deluded people take the narrative peddled by The Media as reflective of something other than establishment prejudices. The answer, therefore, is to destroy The Media and un-delude folks, not warp policies and the democratic process to comply with The Enemy’s (bizarre) hold on low information voters. 

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  6. Western Chauvinist Member
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    genferei (View Comment):

    Suspira (View Comment):

    Thank goodness that clown show is over. I only hope voters are able to forget it, but I fear the impression it has left could be lasting.

    But this impression is not rooted in reality – which was committee politics playing out as intended – but exists because deluded people take the narrative peddled by The Media as reflective of something other than establishment prejudices. The answer, therefore, is to destroy The Media and un-delude folks, not warp policies and the democratic process to comply with The Enemy’s (bizarre) hold on low information voters.

    And the “clowns” were winning over voters like me and other MAGA/Tea Party populists. McCarthy (among many others) is why I left the Republican party. 

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  7. RufusRJones Member
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  8. OldPhil Coolidge
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    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Judge Mental (View Comment):
    Remember when there used to be a debt ceiling?

    The debt ceiling is now a retractable roof.

    Which is stuck in the open position.

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  9. OldPhil Coolidge
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    because if they defund DemoKKKrats will immediately begin to pin the whole border problem on Rs.

    The White House already began to take that approach weeks ago.

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  10. RufusRJones Member
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    OldPhil (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Judge Mental (View Comment):
    Remember when there used to be a debt ceiling?

    The debt ceiling is now a retractable roof.

    Which is stuck in the open position.

    voting + central bank discretion = doom +theft by government 

    http://financialrepressionauthority.com/2017/07/26/the-roundtable-insight-george-bragues-on-how-the-financial-markets-are-influenced-by-politics/

     

     

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  11. RufusRJones Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    I have listened closely as I could to Chip Roy about all of this. I think the point is, why didn’t they get rid of the ACA when they had the chance? etc. They have to force some structural changes to control the liars, RINOs, and GOPe.

     

     

    i.e. 

     

     

     

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  12. WI Con Member
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    It’s no secret that we are a fractured party and movement at a very perilous time in our nation’s history. I supported “The Terrorists!” as I suspect that previous attempts to affect some reforms and placements on the various committees were brushed aside.

    The reporting on all these machinations has been pretty non-existent. I don’t recall any reportage about these ‘in the weeds’ demands but again, suspect that the caucus formation that was developing was largly going to replicate what has been going on since the Boehner days and these 21 recognized that and leveraged their position to the hilt. I’d love to have McCarthy asked what he’d learned from Boehner and Ryan’s difficulties and how he (thought?) he was working to avoid that same outcome – I didn’t see much evidence he’d learned much.

    I still think that our ‘Tea Party’ days were among our finest as a movement: patriotic, substantive, populist, grounded in our Founders & founding documents… Its dissapointing to see how that energy was squashed and dissapated. I’d expected that spirit to have more effect on congress but (again suspect) that ‘That Town’ just ground those people and their energy & idealism down. I’d read of disatisfaction that Tea Party members were frozen out of committees or diluted in ways that conservative/reform minded committee initiative were quashed. The Tea Party dissapated and morphed into The Freedom Caucus with some mild gains, some great soundbites but nothing that changed the course we’re on.

    To me, MAGA movement overlapped a great deal of the Tea Party energy & substance but was Trump focused. Trump threw that Tea Party/Freedom Caucus more bones than GOP leadership ever did but he passed them over plenty in working with Paul Ryan & Mitch McConnell. I think that split you saw between Trump & MTG (support for McCarthy) vs. Gaetz & Boebert (Chip Roy and some of the other 21) was indicative of this.

    We’ve got some (tentative) substantive reforms to business as usual, a squishy Moderate Speaker on the House on a short leash (with a stinging reminder that could start all over again), a ‘shot across the bow’ to current and future Senate & House Leadership  – not bad!

    Not a bad outcome at all.

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  13. Al Sparks Coolidge
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    I have been staying away from C-SPAN (I used to be a C-SPAN junkie) over most of this, but I did tune in last night for the first time since this all started after the 14th vote, and found that they were voting on a motion to adjourn, which failed, so they went to the 15th vote.

    While they were voting on the failed adjournment, I did back up and watch some of the histrionics during the 14th vote.

    There’s more histrionics to follow.  At the beginning of each Congress, the House of Representatives passes the rules they operate under, and it’s usually pro-forma, done after the speaker is seated.  Not this time.  It’s been postponed until Monday at 5pm EST, and they still have to get the votes to pass that as well.

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  14. Al Sparks Coolidge
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    Randy Weivoda (View Comment):

    I wonder if Representative Matt Gaetz will make good on his threat to resign, should McCarthy prevail.

    My understanding is that he said he would resign if a new speaker was elected with the support of some Democrats, freezing the Republican rebels out.

    It didn’t happen that way, so he’s not breaking a promise.

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  15. Western Chauvinist Member
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    WI Con (View Comment):

    a ‘shot across the bow’ to current and future Senate & House Leadership  – not bad!

    Not a bad outcome at all. 

    You had me right up until here.

    I’m deeply disappointed. Not surprised, but I think a win for McCarthy is a loss for America. Again.

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  16. Muleskinner, Weasel Wrangler Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    We’re so screwed.  Republicans are dominated by the establishment machine, and they refuse to conform to the tea party movement and its successors.  We will have the establishment selling us out forever.

    That started when J. Edgar Hoover figured he could stay in charge of the FBI by keeping dossiers on politicians.

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  17. WI Con Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    WI Con (View Comment):

    a ‘shot across the bow’ to current and future Senate & House Leadership – not bad!

    Not a bad outcome at all.

    You had me right up until here.

    I’m deeply disappointed. Not surprised, but I think a win for McCarthy is a loss for America. Again.

    I get it, trying to ‘look on the bright side’ / ‘hope over experience’!

     

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  18. Fritz Coolidge
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    Randy Weivoda (View Comment):

    I wonder if Representative Matt Gaetz will make good on his threat to resign, should McCarthy prevail.

    I thought he said he’d resign if McCarthy made a deal with Democrats to get the needed votes. Not if he prevailed.

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  19. Django Member
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    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):

    He said he wants to introduce a bill to repeal the money going to hiring all those new IRS agents. I heard a podcast on that 4000 page spending bill – much to be very concerned about. Let’s start there.

    Call me a cynical old bastard if you wish, but this sounds a lot like all those bills to repeal ACA that the repubs bragged about when there was a president who would save their sorry carcasses with a veto.  

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  20. Django Member
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    Fritz (View Comment):

    Randy Weivoda (View Comment):

    I wonder if Representative Matt Gaetz will make good on his threat to resign, should McCarthy prevail.

    I thought he said he’d resign if McCarthy made a deal with Democrats to get the needed votes. Not if he prevailed.

    If the clip is still on youtube, you can see him respond to Ingraham’s comments/concerns about getting someone like Jeffries as speaker, or a compromise candidate. I believe that was her term. Gaetz assured her that would not happen, and said he was so certain that he would resign if it did. 

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  21. The Cynthonian Inactive
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    David C. Broussard (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    I enjoyed the show. And the fifteen minutes when we could pretend it mattered.

    It did matter. The ‘concessions ‘, if McCarthy keeps his word, are all huge improvements in procedure.. MTG may be a huge winner.

    MTG is in the loser party- Chip Roy is the winner. He led the initial opposition- got the important concessions & proved to be a responsible politician.

    Taylor-Green voted with the majority. They are the loser party?

    She started out there. Her concession which she gotten advance was getting back on committees.

    Why would a Republican Speaker continue the unprecedented removal from committee assignments of a Republican member by the prior Democrat Speaker?   That should have been automatic, not a matter of negotiation.  And aren’t committee assignments re-shuffled with each incoming House, which always contains at least some new members?

    To teach the Dems a well-deserved lesson, however, I profoundly hope McCarthy eliminates any committee assignments for Schiff, Ilhan Omar, and Swalwell, who are all demonstrable national security risks.

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  22. The Cynthonian Inactive
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Just reporting…

     

    <the quote process removed the clip of MTG suggesting the RNC chair hold McConnell accountable.>

    And exactly how would the RNC chair do that?  I’d love to see it, but that’s  a non-serious suggestion.

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  23. Django Member
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    Speakership Battle Is Just More Bread and Circuses › American Greatness (amgreatness.com)

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  24. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Suspira (View Comment):

    Thank goodness that clown show is over. I only hope voters are able to forget it, but I fear the impression it has left could be lasting. (Hint to GOP reps: You’re supposed to be winning over voters, not repelling them.)

    That was just democracy in action, not a clown show. There may have been a few clowns, but then it took that because of a leadership vacuum caused the problem. The real problem was powerful people and lobbyists writing large bills then dropping them in the House and demanding people just sign them  without studying them. What is more representative government? Dems who vote lock step with their party or Repubs debating until they come to a consensus? MCCarthy moved into an office before he was confirmed because he felt he was entitled to it. They hopefully reduced his arrogance a notch or two. 

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  25. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    I have listened closely as I could to Chip Roy about all of this. I think the point is, why didn’t they get rid of the ACA when they had the chance? etc. They have to force some structural changes to control the liars, RINOs, and GOPe.

     

     

    i.e.

     

     

     

    As a provider I sure don’t get to see any of that

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  26. MiMac Thatcher
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    Django (View Comment):

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):

    He said he wants to introduce a bill to repeal the money going to hiring all those new IRS agents. I heard a podcast on that 4000 page spending bill – much to be very concerned about. Let’s start there.

    Call me a cynical old bastard if you wish, but this sounds a lot like all those bills to repeal ACA that the repubs bragged about when there was a president who would save their sorry carcasses with a veto.

    Which president are you referring to, Trump or Obama? No senior political figure had the guts to repeal Obamacare.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/why-trump-abandoned-his-plan-to-replace-obamacare

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  27. Western Chauvinist Member
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):

    He said he wants to introduce a bill to repeal the money going to hiring all those new IRS agents. I heard a podcast on that 4000 page spending bill – much to be very concerned about. Let’s start there.

    Call me a cynical old bastard if you wish, but this sounds a lot like all those bills to repeal ACA that the repubs bragged about when there was a president who would save their sorry carcasses with a veto.

    Which president are you referring to, Trump or Obama? No senior political figure had the guts to repeal Obamacare.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/why-trump-abandoned-his-plan-to-replace-obamacare

    How ridiculous. “Trump never admits when he’s wrong.” Unlike Biden and Obama, for example? Unlike any other president ever?? Trump triangulated after Republicans lost the House? You mean like Bill Clinton and every other president ever??

    And now we’re supposed to conveniently forget that John McCain torpedoed the repeal out of Trump resentment/hatred? You think Trump wouldn’t have signed a repeal?

    Stop attempting to gaslight us. This is revisionist nonsense brought about by TDS.

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  28. Django Member
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):

    He said he wants to introduce a bill to repeal the money going to hiring all those new IRS agents. I heard a podcast on that 4000 page spending bill – much to be very concerned about. Let’s start there.

    Call me a cynical old bastard if you wish, but this sounds a lot like all those bills to repeal ACA that the repubs bragged about when there was a president who would save their sorry carcasses with a veto.

    Which president are you referring to, Trump or Obama? No senior political figure had the guts to repeal Obamacare.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/why-trump-abandoned-his-plan-to-replace-obamacare

    Obama. 

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  29. MiMac Thatcher
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):

    He said he wants to introduce a bill to repeal the money going to hiring all those new IRS agents. I heard a podcast on that 4000 page spending bill – much to be very concerned about. Let’s start there.

    Call me a cynical old bastard if you wish, but this sounds a lot like all those bills to repeal ACA that the repubs bragged about when there was a president who would save their sorry carcasses with a veto.

    Which president are you referring to, Trump or Obama? No senior political figure had the guts to repeal Obamacare.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/why-trump-abandoned-his-plan-to-replace-obamacare

    How ridiculous. “Trump never admits when he’s wrong.” Unlike Biden and Obama, for example? Unlike any other president ever?? Trump triangulated after Republicans lost the House? You mean like Bill Clinton and every other president ever??

    And now we’re supposed to conveniently forget that John McCain torpedoed the repeal out of Trump resentment/hatred? You think Trump wouldn’t have signed a repeal?

    Stop attempting to gaslight us. This is revisionist nonsense brought about by TDS.

    Neither Trump nor the Republican Congress ever got serious on repealing Obamacare-there was plenty of blame to go around-but without a strong push by Trump it was never going to happen. At best it was a failure of leadership by Trump. Unfortunately, Trump was never committed to shrinking the government-and it is gaslight to maintain otherwise.

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  30. RufusRJones Member
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):

    He said he wants to introduce a bill to repeal the money going to hiring all those new IRS agents. I heard a podcast on that 4000 page spending bill – much to be very concerned about. Let’s start there.

    Call me a cynical old bastard if you wish, but this sounds a lot like all those bills to repeal ACA that the repubs bragged about when there was a president who would save their sorry carcasses with a veto.

    Which president are you referring to, Trump or Obama? No senior political figure had the guts to repeal Obamacare.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/why-trump-abandoned-his-plan-to-replace-obamacare

    They had to help him. My God, they had seven years and three months to get ready. How many times did they vote to repeal it? Zero forethought. They could have waited a year if they didn’t know how to do it. 

    I understand this makes perfect sense to you but it doesn’t to me. The ACA is obviously forcing single payer.

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