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Hu Jintao Frogmarched from CCP Conference — Xi Brushes Hu
No doubt airbrushing is the wrong term for what just happened. Toilet-brushed perhaps.
Of note, the guy to our (visual) right of Hu as he is finally led away. His moment of indecision makes him seem like a Hu Jintao guy who suddenly realizes that he is now the newest Xi Jinping guy. Deputy human drama for this scene.
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Maybe, but “inscrutable” would be for Hu to just disappear. Or fall out of a window.
I did not introduce Trump into the conversation, he was introduced others. This was a sad commentary about the CCP, but others had to introduce Trump into it.
For better or worse, like Trump, I am a counterpuncher. I do note that Trump acolyte Kari Lake after she won her primary by a plurality, boasted that she had removed the ghost of John McCain from Arizona politics. (John McCain won all of his races in Arizona by anywhere between a 54% landslide and a 78% stomping. In Arizona, the best Trump ever did was 48%, losing the second time in 2020. Trump has never won a majority of the popular vote in Arizona’s general election.)
Trump was, by far, the most rude of any Republican President to a former Republican nominee.
Y’all want to remove us. We ain’t leaving. This is our party too. You would be better off making peace with us instead of attacking us. You can’t be surprised when we attack back.
I am off to canvass against Kari Lake; I would not be canvassing for Democrats if Karrin Taylor Robson had won the governor’s primary. (So damn close!) But, I love my Country far more than I love my party.
Prior to being removed from the room, Hu was sitting next to Xi in the front of the 20th Party Congress. See this clip at the 50 second point.
Or he watched The McLaughlin Group a lot.
Please leave. I know that you disagree and do not understand. Just go, if you will.
Thank you.
I am not leaving. Ricochet belongs to me too. Thank you.
Many of its founders in both Syria and Iraq were Christian. But the point of the party was to be secular. Successors of Nasser. Sadam would co-opt Islam as needed. Sadam was also a CIA agent for a long time and dropped as needed.
Actually, Ricochet does not belong to me or you. Ricochet belongs to Silent Cal Productions. They, and only they, have the power to remove members of Ricochet.
Your own thread, perhaps? Those who wish to discuss your issues on your terms will flock to it. This is my last straw. I do ask that you have your chosen conversation somewhere other than this thread.
Airbrushing is only one tactic. The other is to create a bogeyman, e.g., Trotsky. Mao did that with Lin Biao. Hu may be Xi’s bogeyman. Who knows?
It might be a computer translation of a Chilean article. I’m not sure what I think yet.
Your quarrel is with those commenters who introduced Trump in the comments, not me. I am merely counterpunching.
However I am off to canvassing against Kari Lake, as I represent the John McCain branch of my party. Cheers.
I am trying to re-locate a video I saw months ago about how the Evergrande collapse was precipitated by the “three red lines guidance”, AND how that was a ctually a blow against an anti-Xi faction. Can’t recall if it was a Hu faction or a Jiang faction, and interestingly, now I can no longer find it. Google is of course in bed with the communists in China — whichever gang is in charge it seems, so perhaps this has something to do with my inability to find it. Or maybe I just haven’t found it yet.
Not sure of that at all. I’m not saying you’re wrong. I think there is more than one possibility, however.
One, Xi is asserting to the world that he is in control.
Two, Xi is asserting to the CCP that he is in control. And that if you were secretly with Hu, you’d better cover your tracks if Hu does not give you up. I also think this point is far more important than point one.
Three, Xi is going to blame those things that have gone wrong on Hu. So get ready for that. Hu is the Chinese Trump.
As I said, I don’t know. And there can be many other possibilities.
No, Gary — it’s you. I’m done.
Paging Mr. Beria, Mr. Trotsky…
Why does it seem that only conservatives have read Darkness at Noon when it it lefties who run the risk of becoming a Rubashov?
Actually your quarrel is with the majority of Republicans who identify as “ Regular Republicans” instead of as “ Trump Republicans.”
Yes, I think that this is exactly right. Xi may have been scared between a couple of years ago and up to maybe six months ago. He is now the dictator for an “unprecedented” third term, and has only grown more ruthless as he consolidated power. The worse things have gotten oin China, the better it has gotten for Xi, as opposition needs a base. City-wide lockdowns isolating neighborhoods and buildings (as in gates welded shut and armed guards, not “lockdowns” like we have in the west) in major cities force all communication to be electronic, which is of course monitored and largely controlled. The Evergrande implosion wiped out the slush fund of one of the major factions against Xi. And the current drought, exacerbated and made acute by long and short-term water policy keep heads down, with people now desperate to maintain even the first rung of Maslow’s hierarchy.
Evergrande was about the Shanghai group, which Hu was a member of. Exactly how much Hu had to do with Evergrande policy, I don’t know. All the stuff on Chinese GDP was always b s. When 38% of your GDP is for the construction of housing nobody is going to live in, it’s a joke.
Frankly, from a US perspective, Xi winning is in the long term a good thing because Xi is a disaster in terms of economic development. He is a through-and-through Maoist. The zero Covid tolerance policy still survives. Access to chips has been cut off, so all the dreams of China 2025 are dust. The entire idea that China will take Taiwan will recede by the day – which means the US should ratchet things down. Don’t have Nancy Pelosi going over there as a Democrat Party fundraising stunt to get donations from rich Taiwanese-American businessmen. I thought it was funny all the guesswork on ‘why is Nancy going to Taiwan’. Duh.
Once again, I state what I have always known about tyrants. They can never, ever sleep. They know that there are always more of “them” than there are of “us”, and when things get bad enough for “them”, nothing can stop their uprising and bringing down the tyrant. A tyrant like Xi can never trust anyone, not even his toadies and sycophants. No one below him can ever sleep, either. They know that one wrong step, one wrong word, will bring the hammer of the State down on them. Because this is so, they determine to keep all bad news away from the tyrant, lest he think it is their fault and ruin them. But especially now, bad news pops up everywhere, especially due to the zero-Covid policy. The purges will continue as long as Xi remains in power. Everyone is at risk, even Xi’s wife and family, and he knows this. He thinks he can control everyone, but he can’t-no one can.
Another effect of the zero-Covid policy is that the entire population of Communist China is vulnerable to the virus. Since the virus has not been allowed to circulate among the population and confer immunity, when it does escape it will cause increased unnecessary devastation. Communist China’s population is already shrinking due to the one-child policy, and without the human capital, economic growth is impossible.
Everybody knew that.
They knew that too. This was choreographed to emphasize that. Methinks the strongman doth flex too much
That goes without saying. It has the advantage of occasionally being true, or true enough.
Neither do I. Maybe Hu was part of a shadowy cabal. If so, they are either going, or already gone. However, if Xi doesn’t know, this move makes more sense than one-way helicopter rides for the lot.
Gee, the Democrats gave you Kari Lake and killed off your desired nominee, so you react by supporting the Democrats. How does this make any sense at all?
The first of the bolded points remains to be seen. The US moving back into “rolling our own” is welcome, if we sustain it. The second could be a problem. Xi could be operating in a bubble similar to the one that had Putin convinced that the thrust on Kyiv was viable. Actually, Vladimir getting a spanking is probably paying benefits in that regard. Seeing T-90 tanks being towed off the battlefield by Ukrainian combines should cause a reevaluation or two.
I really have no idea what to make of it.
Wisdom, right there.
It looks like Hu is the designated scapegoat for the impending economic collapse; blame the problems on predecessors and clamp down even harder on dissent, both popular and within the Communist Party itself.
Will such old-school Communist practices work in modern China? Will an increasingly desperate Xi throw the dice on an invasion of Taiwan?
We shall see.
At least you being out on the streets… keeps you off the streets… or something.
Actually the service it probably provides the most is taking up time when you would otherwise be trolling here. So in that sense, I’m happy that Katie Hobbs is
runningstumbling for office.(And I thought he meant Beatle, referring to the haircut…)
Of course it doesn’t, but [standard comment the mods told me to stop using].
He’s 79. (Who? Hu.) It’s as likely to be a senior moment as anything else.