Political Violence in America

 

A young man of 18 was killed after a political debate became heated. The accused killer has defended himself by saying the teen was a Republican extremist.

Brandt “stated that he struck the pedestrian because the pedestrian was threatening him. Brandt stated that the pedestrian called some people and Brandt was afraid they were coming to get him.”

The young man had called his mother to come get him, because someone was chasing him, and in retaliation for his call for help, he was killed.

The friends and family of Cayler Elingson have set up a GoFundMe, to help the family with funeral, legal and other expenses in this very difficult time for them.

Brandt has been charged, and released on $50 000 bail, pending trial.

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  1. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik
    @DrewInWisconsin

    The fruit of Biden’s poisonous “Red Speech.”

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  2. OccupantCDN Coolidge
    OccupantCDN
    @OccupantCDN

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    The fruit of Biden’s poisonous “Red Speech.”

    The fruit of democratic rhetoric going back to 2015, if not 1944.

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  3. Western Chauvinist Member
    Western Chauvinist
    @WesternChauvinist

    Someone cite the cases of right wing violence in America where the perpetrator’s politics was the motivation, and not mental illness. I’m sure there are examples, I’m just having trouble coming up with any.

    J6 doesn’t count since the kids climbing and breaking windows were dressed in black and were indistinguishable from antifa. Also, the only people who died were MAGA.

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  4. OccupantCDN Coolidge
    OccupantCDN
    @OccupantCDN

    Styxhexenhammer: (WARNING spicy language):

    Tim Pool reports:

    Civil war theories?

     

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  5. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik
    @DrewInWisconsin

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    The fruit of Biden’s poisonous “Red Speech.”

    The fruit of democratic rhetoric going back to 2015, if not 1944.

    Jus’ sayin’, we have people among us who believe that, while over the top in its rhetoric, Biden’s Red Speech was essentially harmless.

    It wasn’t.

    And of course, we’ve been hearing the same eliminationist rhetoric from members of Congress and the media for several years now, including from The One himself.

    Any surprise their crazies act on it?

    You know if a Republican mowed down a Democrat we’d never hear the end of it. (And in fact, that’s already happened.)

    So . . . never let them hear the end of this. Don’t let them send it down the memory hole.

    This is on them. All of them. Anyone who voted for Biden.

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  6. Vance Richards Member
    Vance Richards
    @VanceRichards

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    The fruit of Biden’s poisonous “Red Speech.”

    What would make him think that kind of action was Ok . . . 

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  7. MDHahn Coolidge
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    @MDHahn

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    The fruit of Biden’s poisonous “Red Speech.”

    The fruit of democratic rhetoric going back to 2015, if not 1944.

    Jus’ sayin’, we have people among us who believe that, while over the top in its rhetoric, Biden’s Red Speech was essentially harmless.

    It wasn’t.

    And of course, we’ve been hearing the same eliminationist rhetoric from members of Congress and the media for several years now, including from The One himself.

    Any surprise their crazies act on it?

    You know if a Republican mowed down a Democrat we’d never hear the end of it. (And in fact, that’s already happened.)

    So . . . never let them hear the end of this. Don’t let them send it down the memory hole.

    This is on them. All of them. Anyone who voted for Biden.

    I’m with you until the last sentence. Biden’s speech was awful and the type of rhetoric I’ve complained about on our side too. It’s worse because he’s the freaking President. 

    But we can’t blame all 81 million people who voted for him. That’s the same BS that the Left pulls with us all the time as if all 74 million Trump voters are an indistinguishable blob. That’s going to make the situation worse. 

    What this guy did was evil. Just like any other cold blooded murder. 

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  8. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik
    @DrewInWisconsin

    MDHahn (View Comment):

    But we can’t blame all 81 million people who voted for him.

    Yes we can. They knew what they were getting.

    Especially the Biden voters at Ricochet. They should have known quite well. We warned them over and over.

    They didn’t listen because they styled themselves smart and we were the dummies who were voting the awful Orange Man.

    Well, . . . better the Orange man than the one in the red suit, pointed tail and horns — which is who they got.

    I know by your history here that you’ll never agree with me. I’m okay with that.

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  9. genferei Member
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    @genferei

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    The fruit of Biden’s poisonous “Red Speech.”

    The fruit of democratic rhetoric going back to 2015, if not 1944.

    How about 1854. 

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  10. Django Member
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    @Django

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    Styxhexenhammer: (WARNING spicy language):

    Tim Pool reports:

    Civil war theories?

     

    Later on, after a stiff drink, I’m going to read the youtube comments to see how many sacks of used food support this killer. My conservative estimate is 40% of those who comment do. 

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  11. Bunsen Coolidge
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    @Bunsen

    Django (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    Styxhexenhammer: (WARNING spicy language):

    Tim Pool reports:

    Civil war theories?

     

    Later on, after a stiff drink, I’m going to read the youtube comments to see how many sacks of used food support this killer. My conservative estimate is 40% of those who comment do.

    I hope you are doing for research purposes.  I am not sure any amount of stiff drinks could help process that number.  

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  12. Django Member
    Django
    @Django

    Bunsen (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    Styxhexenhammer: (WARNING spicy language):

    Tim Pool reports:

    Civil war theories?

     

    Later on, after a stiff drink, I’m going to read the youtube comments to see how many sacks of used food support this killer. My conservative estimate is 40% of those who comment do.

    I hope you are doing for research purposes. I am not sure any amount of stiff drinks could help process that number.

    It’s a way of staying grounded. On the upside, maybe I’ll find that the real percentage is much lower, and youtube probably is not a representative sample of Americans. 

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  13. EDISONPARKS Member
    EDISONPARKS
    @user_54742

    If this happened in a blue city this ahrse hat would be acquitted at trial and given a TV talking head job as a driving expert at MSNBC.

    Fortunately, a North Dakota jury can be expected to give murderers the appropriate prison term … although the MSNBC job is still on the table when he gets out.

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  14. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    @RichardEaston

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    MDHahn (View Comment):

    But we can’t blame all 81 million people who voted for him.

    Yes we can. They knew what they were getting.

    Especially the Biden voters at Ricochet. They should have known quite well. We warned them over and over.

    They didn’t listen because they styled themselves smart and we were the dummies who were voting the awful Orange Man.

    Well, . . . better the Orange man than the one in the red suit, pointed tail and horns — which is who they got.

    I know by your history here that you’ll never agree with me. I’m okay with that.

    I blame less than 81 million people. See how beneficent I am.

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  15. Django Member
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    @Django

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    MDHahn (View Comment):

    But we can’t blame all 81 million people who voted for him.

    Yes we can. They knew what they were getting.

    $50 per vote, or maybe $100. 

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  16. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    MDHahn (View Comment):

    But we can’t blame all 81 million people who voted for him.

    Yes we can. They knew what they were getting.

    Especially the Biden voters at Ricochet. They should have known quite well. We warned them over and over.

    They didn’t listen because they styled themselves smart and we were the dummies who were voting the awful Orange Man.

    Well, . . . better the Orange man than the one in the red suit, pointed tail and horns — which is who they got.

    I know by your history here that you’ll never agree with me. I’m okay with that.

    I blame less than 81 million people. See how beneficent I am.

    Ha!

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  17. OccupantCDN Coolidge
    OccupantCDN
    @OccupantCDN

    Django (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    MDHahn (View Comment):

    But we can’t blame all 81 million people who voted for him.

    Yes we can. They knew what they were getting.

    $50 per vote, or maybe $100.

    I doubt it was that high. These Ballot harvesters… Going all over the city collecting hundreds of ballots? $5 each…

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  18. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
    DonG (CAGW is a Scam)
    @DonG

    This is a terrible situation, but is “Republican extremist” an oxymoron?    Is a “Republican extremist” a GOP member that capitulates harder?   Is the silence by the GOP on this hate crime proof they are not extremist?  Is this an extension of Lefties adding “extremist” to all descriptors?  

    This Lefty cult needs deprogramming. 

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  19. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik
    @DrewInWisconsin

    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):
    Is a “Republican extremist” a GOP member that capitulates harder? 

    Ha!

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  20. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik
    @DrewInWisconsin

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  21. OccupantCDN Coolidge
    OccupantCDN
    @OccupantCDN

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    How do kill someone before you confront them?

    With a rifle, with a scope, from a mile away.

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  22. E. Kent Golding Member
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    @EKentGolding

    Django (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    MDHahn (View Comment):

    But we can’t blame all 81 million people who voted for him.

    Yes we can. They knew what they were getting.

    $50 per vote, or maybe $100.

    How much is that in pieces of silver?

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  23. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    @VtheK

    Django (View Comment):
    Later on, after a stiff drink, I’m going to read the youtube comments to see how many sacks of used food support this killer. My conservative estimate is 40% of those who comment do. 

    I have seen a great many “cry harder” comments from leftists on Twitter responding to posts condemning this act of political violence.

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  24. MDHahn Coolidge
    MDHahn
    @MDHahn

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    MDHahn (View Comment):

    But we can’t blame all 81 million people who voted for him.

    Yes we can. They knew what they were getting.

    Especially the Biden voters at Ricochet. They should have known quite well. We warned them over and over.

    They didn’t listen because they styled themselves smart and we were the dummies who were voting the awful Orange Man.

    Well, . . . better the Orange man than the one in the red suit, pointed tail and horns — which is who they got.

    I know by your history here that you’ll never agree with me. I’m okay with that.

    The attitude of blaming every single Biden voter for this will lead to more violence. You can’t have it both ways on this. It’s wrong to blame all 74 million Trump voters for Jan. 6. It’s also wrong to blame all Biden voters for this violence.

    If we continue to act that way, then we are making political opponents into enemies who want us all dead. That’s the same type of rhetoric that leads to what happened in ND or the Congressional baseball shooting. It makes violence more and more likely. You’re adopting the very same rhetoric that you are justifiably mad at Biden and the Left for. Dehumanizing your opponents is wrong regardless of who is doing it.

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  25. GlennAmurgis Coolidge
    GlennAmurgis
    @GlennAmurgis

    As with the shooting of the baseball practice and the Waukesha Christmas homicide, it will be dropped by corporate media as fast as you can say “Kermit Gosnell” – If it does not fit the narrative, it does not get repeated

     

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  26. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik
    @DrewInWisconsin

    MDHahn (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    MDHahn (View Comment):

    But we can’t blame all 81 million people who voted for him.

    Yes we can. They knew what they were getting.

    Especially the Biden voters at Ricochet. They should have known quite well. We warned them over and over.

    They didn’t listen because they styled themselves smart and we were the dummies who were voting the awful Orange Man.

    Well, . . . better the Orange man than the one in the red suit, pointed tail and horns — which is who they got.

    I know by your history here that you’ll never agree with me. I’m okay with that.

    The attitude of blaming every single Biden voter for this will lead to more violence. You can’t have it both ways on this. It’s wrong to blame all 74 million Trump voters for Jan. 6. It’s also wrong to blame all Biden voters for this violence.

    If we continue to act that way, then we are making political opponents into enemies who want us all dead. That’s the same type of rhetoric that leads to what happened in ND or the Congressional baseball shooting. It makes violence more and more likely. You’re adopting the very same rhetoric that you are justifiably mad at Biden and the Left for. Dehumanizing your opponents is wrong regardless of who is doing it.

    Don’t care. I’m gonna blame them all anyway. Didn’t say I was going to kill them. (That’s what Democrats do.) But I’m sure as hell gonna blame them.

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  27. Bunsen Coolidge
    Bunsen
    @Bunsen

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    MDHahn (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    MDHahn (View Comment):

    But we can’t blame all 81 million people who voted for him.

    Yes we can. They knew what they were getting.

    Especially the Biden voters at Ricochet. They should have known quite well. We warned them over and over.

    They didn’t listen because they styled themselves smart and we were the dummies who were voting the awful Orange Man.

    Well, . . . better the Orange man than the one in the red suit, pointed tail and horns — which is who they got.

    I know by your history here that you’ll never agree with me. I’m okay with that.

    The attitude of blaming every single Biden voter for this will lead to more violence. You can’t have it both ways on this. It’s wrong to blame all 74 million Trump voters for Jan. 6. It’s also wrong to blame all Biden voters for this violence.

    If we continue to act that way, then we are making political opponents into enemies who want us all dead. That’s the same type of rhetoric that leads to what happened in ND or the Congressional baseball shooting. It makes violence more and more likely. You’re adopting the very same rhetoric that you are justifiably mad at Biden and the Left for. Dehumanizing your opponents is wrong regardless of who is doing it.

    Don’t care. I’m gonna blame them all anyway. Didn’t say I was going to kill them. (That’s what Democrats do.) But I’m sure as hell gonna blame them.

    @MDHahn – they WANT us dead!  They already made the choice of violence (POTUS Red Speech and everytime they open their mouths).  I am with Drew, Don’t Care and there is a hell of lot we can do without resorting to violence. 

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  28. MDHahn Coolidge
    MDHahn
    @MDHahn

    Bunsen (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    MDHahn (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    MDHahn (View Comment):

    But we can’t blame all 81 million people who voted for him.

    Yes we can. They knew what they were getting.

    Especially the Biden voters at Ricochet. They should have known quite well. We warned them over and over.

    They didn’t listen because they styled themselves smart and we were the dummies who were voting the awful Orange Man.

    Well, . . . better the Orange man than the one in the red suit, pointed tail and horns — which is who they got.

    I know by your history here that you’ll never agree with me. I’m okay with that.

    The attitude of blaming every single Biden voter for this will lead to more violence. You can’t have it both ways on this. It’s wrong to blame all 74 million Trump voters for Jan. 6. It’s also wrong to blame all Biden voters for this violence.

    If we continue to act that way, then we are making political opponents into enemies who want us all dead. That’s the same type of rhetoric that leads to what happened in ND or the Congressional baseball shooting. It makes violence more and more likely. You’re adopting the very same rhetoric that you are justifiably mad at Biden and the Left for. Dehumanizing your opponents is wrong regardless of who is doing it.

    Don’t care. I’m gonna blame them all anyway. Didn’t say I was going to kill them. (That’s what Democrats do.) But I’m sure as hell gonna blame them.

    @ MDHahn – they WANT us dead! They already made the choice of violence (POTUS Red Speech and everytime they open their mouths). I am with Drew, Don’t Care and there is a hell of lot we can do without resorting to violence.

    You really think all 81 million want us dead? That’s nuts. What are our options short of violence? If they really want us dead, then they can’t be reasoned with, right? 

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  29. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik
    @DrewInWisconsin

    MDHahn (View Comment):
    You really think all 81 million want us dead? That’s nuts.

    That Biden got 81 million votes is nuts.

    What are our options short of violence? If they really want us dead, then they can’t be reasoned with, right? 

    Right. You can’t reason someone out of a position that he didn’t arrive at by reason.

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  30. Bunsen Coolidge
    Bunsen
    @Bunsen

    MDHahn (View Comment):

    Bunsen (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    MDHahn (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    MDHahn (View Comment):

    But we can’t blame all 81 million people who voted for him.

    Yes we can. They knew what they were getting.

    Especially the Biden voters at Ricochet. They should have known quite well. We warned them over and over.

    They didn’t listen because they styled themselves smart and we were the dummies who were voting the awful Orange Man.

    Well, . . . better the Orange man than the one in the red suit, pointed tail and horns — which is who they got.

    I know by your history here that you’ll never agree with me. I’m okay with that.

    The attitude of blaming every single Biden voter for this will lead to more violence. You can’t have it both ways on this. It’s wrong to blame all 74 million Trump voters for Jan. 6. It’s also wrong to blame all Biden voters for this violence.

    If we continue to act that way, then we are making political opponents into enemies who want us all dead. That’s the same type of rhetoric that leads to what happened in ND or the Congressional baseball shooting. It makes violence more and more likely. You’re adopting the very same rhetoric that you are justifiably mad at Biden and the Left for. Dehumanizing your opponents is wrong regardless of who is doing it.

    Don’t care. I’m gonna blame them all anyway. Didn’t say I was going to kill them. (That’s what Democrats do.) But I’m sure as hell gonna blame them.

    @ MDHahn – they WANT us dead! They already made the choice of violence (POTUS Red Speech and everytime they open their mouths). I am with Drew, Don’t Care and there is a hell of lot we can do without resorting to violence.

    You really think all 81 million want us dead? That’s nuts. What are our options short of violence? If they really want us dead, then they can’t be reasoned with, right?

     Don’t Drax (Guardian of the Galaxy) and take everything literally. 

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