Biden Warns That MAGA Republicans Pose ‘Clear and Present Danger’ to Nation

 

It was fitting for Joe Biden to deliver Thursday night’s Independence Hall speech at a venue lit by gas lights. Backed by a blood-red background and two military men shrouded in darkness, the president condemned half the nation as insurrectionists who pose a “clear and present danger” to the United States.

The language was deliberate as it was divisive. “Clear and present danger” is a legal doctrine created by the Woodrow Wilson-era Supreme Court to curtail the free speech of Americans. At the time, an antiwar activist was jailed for advocating draft resistance during World War I. In Schenck v. United States (1919), Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., wrote for the majority:

The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that the United States Congress has a right to prevent. It is a question of proximity and degree. When a nation is at war, many things that might be said in time of peace are such a hindrance to its effort that their utterance will not be endured so long as men fight, and that no Court could regard them as protected by any constitutional right.

Thereafter, courts employed the “clear and present danger test” to limit citizens’ First Amendment rights. That is, until Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969) replaced it to address only “imminent lawless action.”

Notably, Biden resurrected this extinct phrase to attack his political enemies just as the authoritarian Wilson used it to attack his detractors. He floated a legal pretext to silence Republicans heading into the midterm elections. The administration has already directed tech companies to ban dissenting voices on social media, so such a move would be in character. Not to mention using the FBI to raid Trump’s home and the DoJ to harass Trump’s legal team.

The speech, titled “Soul of the Nation,” was an attempt to reframe the November elections as a battle between the virtuous bearers of light (like himself) and the sinister, Ultra MAGA semi-fascists. His serial message-switching between good-vs.-evil rhetoric and bipartisan unity was jarring.

“Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our Republic,” Biden said, adding they “are determined to take this country backward … promote authoritarian leaders and fan the flames of political violence.”

“For a long time, we’ve reassured ourselves that American democracy is guaranteed. But it is not,” Biden said between coughs. “We have to defend it. Protect it. Stand up for it. Each and every one of us.”

Having dropped back to a 38 percent approval rating, the president and his allies are obviously sweating the election looming two months away. Joe “he’s gonna put y’all back in chains” Biden has thus reverted to form, spreading hatred and division in the name of “preserving democracy.”

But a one-party state isn’t democracy. It’s an oligarchy at best and authoritarianism at worst.

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  1. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
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    Loved the speaker list for 2023. Just is outside our price range.

    OMG

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    It was the $5000 differential for airfare for a couple that got my attention.

     

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    Guessing the clientele for these cruises don’t fly in economy class.

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    I’d prefer a Hillsdale cruise over an NR cruise 10 times out of 10. Larry Arnn and VDH are confirmed for next year. Last year’s cruise which we were booked on and was cancelled also had Mollie Hemingway.

    I gave up on NR many years ago.

    Will check them out.

    Loved the speaker list for 2023. Just is outside our price range.

    OMG

    So it is for the rich. Got it.

    21 grand is the cheapest? Even when I was a CEO there was no way.

    Must be nice to be able to blow that kind of cash.

    It was the $5000 differential for airfare for a couple that got my attention.

     

    I just paid under $1500 roundtrip for two tickets from Chicago to London/Paris back to Chicago. And that was retail, not part of a group buy.

    Guessing the clientele for these cruises don’t fly in economy class.

    It is supposed to be a fundraiser too, right? I’d guess they’re targeting people who could afford to just cut them a 5-figure check as a donation, but would prefer to get a nice vacation in the bargain.

    And tax-deductible too!

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  3. Dotorimuk Coolidge
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    I’d prefer a Hillsdale cruise over an NR cruise 10 times out of 10. Larry Arnn and VDH are confirmed for next year. Last year’s cruise which we were booked on and was cancelled also had Mollie Hemingway.

    I gave up on NR many years ago.

    Will check them out.

    Loved the speaker list for 2023. Just is outside our price range.

     

    They want more than my entire annual disability income.

    Cruises for the rich. The rest of us don’t deserve access.

     

    They should organize a Merry Pranksters-style cross-country bus trip instead…minus the LSD. (Hey, what you do is YOUR business…)

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    I’d prefer a Hillsdale cruise over an NR cruise 10 times out of 10. Larry Arnn and VDH are confirmed for next year. Last year’s cruise which we were booked on and was cancelled also had Mollie Hemingway.

    I gave up on NR many years ago.

    Will check them out.

    Loved the speaker list for 2023. Just is outside our price range.

     

    They want more than my entire annual disability income.

    Cruises for the rich. The rest of us don’t deserve access.

     

    They should organize a Merry Pranksters-style cross-country bus trip instead…minus the LSD. (Hey, what you do is YOUR business…)

    If there’s no LSD, then Rob Long isn’t going!

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  5. Franco Member
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    Of course a cruise costs a lot of money. But so does a rock concert and an apartment in Manhattan.

    My life is set up in a way where I have multiple mini vacations. I’ve been on cruises and I’m sure it’s fun. 

    Others work like dogs and have no life for months and then can spend 10% of their earnings – or maybe the cruise itself is a bonus – and the experience is more important and needed than the money.

    And people work in the cruise industry and are there to help you have a fabulous time. 

    Maybe NR could set up the Kevin Williamson Scholarship for Displaced Workers and sponsor one or two of them to go on on an NR cruise.

    Heck, I’ll do it.I pledge $500 to send Drew. Who’s in?

     

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    Franco (View Comment):

    Of course a cruise costs a lot of money. But so does a rock concert and an apartment in Manhattan.

    My life is set up in a way where I have multiple mini vacations. I’ve been on cruises and I’m sure it’s fun.

    Others work like dogs and have no life for months and then can spend 10% of their earnings – or maybe the cruise itself is a bonus – and the experience is more important and needed than the money.

    And people work in the cruise industry and are there to help you have a fabulous time.

    Maybe NR could set up the Kevin Williamson Scholarship for Displaced Workers and sponsor one or two of them to go on on an NR cruise.

    Heck, I’ll do it.I pledge $500 to send Drew. Who’s in?

     

    I would, if I could afford it.  Which probably means I need to apply for that sponsorship myself.

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  7. Franco Member
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    I’d prefer a Hillsdale cruise over an NR cruise 10 times out of 10. Larry Arnn and VDH are confirmed for next year. Last year’s cruise which we were booked on and was cancelled also had Mollie Hemingway.

    I gave up on NR many years ago.

    Will check them out.

    Loved the speaker list for 2023. Just is outside our price range.

     

    They want more than my entire annual disability income.

    Cruises for the rich. The rest of us don’t deserve access.

     

    They should organize a Merry Pranksters-style cross-country bus trip instead…minus the LSD. (Hey, what you do is YOUR business…)

    Minus the LSD? …I’m out.

    But okay, I can abstain, I’ll just try to invoke a flashback….And showers are mandatory, right?

     

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    I’d prefer a Hillsdale cruise over an NR cruise 10 times out of 10. Larry Arnn and VDH are confirmed for next year. Last year’s cruise which we were booked on and was cancelled also had Mollie Hemingway.

    I gave up on NR many years ago.

    Will check them out.

    Loved the speaker list for 2023. Just is outside our price range.

     

    They want more than my entire annual disability income.

    Cruises for the rich. The rest of us don’t deserve access.

     

    They should organize a Merry Pranksters-style cross-country bus trip instead…minus the LSD. (Hey, what you do is YOUR business…)

    Minus the LSD? …I’m out.

    But okay, I can abstain, I’ll just try to invoke a flashback….And showers are mandatory, right?

     

    What if everyone just invokes a flashback to a previous shower?

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    I’d prefer a Hillsdale cruise over an NR cruise 10 times out of 10. Larry Arnn and VDH are confirmed for next year. Last year’s cruise which we were booked on and was cancelled also had Mollie Hemingway.

    I gave up on NR many years ago.

    Will check them out.

    Loved the speaker list for 2023. Just is outside our price range.

     

    They want more than my entire annual disability income.

    Cruises for the rich. The rest of us don’t deserve access.

     

    They should organize a Merry Pranksters-style cross-country bus trip instead…minus the LSD. (Hey, what you do is YOUR business…)

    Minus the LSD? …I’m out.

    But okay, I can abstain, I’ll just try to invoke a flashback….And showers are mandatory, right?

     

    What if everyone just invokes a flashback to a previous shower?

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    I’d prefer a Hillsdale cruise over an NR cruise 10 times out of 10. Larry Arnn and VDH are confirmed for next year. Last year’s cruise which we were booked on and was cancelled also had Mollie Hemingway.

    I gave up on NR many years ago.

    Will check them out.

    Loved the speaker list for 2023. Just is outside our price range.

     

    They want more than my entire annual disability income.

    Cruises for the rich. The rest of us don’t deserve access.

     

    They should organize a Merry Pranksters-style cross-country bus trip instead…minus the LSD. (Hey, what you do is YOUR business…)

    Minus the LSD? …I’m out.

    But okay, I can abstain, I’ll just try to invoke a flashback….And showers are mandatory, right?

     

    Every once in a while, y’all can stop the bus and jump in a pond for a spell.

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    For a dude who punched out a Pop of Corn, he has tiny little fey hands.

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  12. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    And in case you were morbidly curious, Jonah is on Team Palpatine.

    This is just reinforcement of the previously-super-reinforced notion that Jonah has waddled off into the desert, unattended.  Quickly now, someone fetch him back before he faceplants in the cholla.

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  13. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    But seriously? What was the point? Incitement? An attempt to provoke violence to give them an excuse to start rounding up and executing conservatives? (You know, like the FBI and the capitol police provoked the demonstrators outside the capitol on January 6th?)

    Why did he do this? What was the purpose, except to further divide the country and incite his followers to kill a few Republicans. Maybe some SCOTUS judges. Maybe some Republican candidates. Maybe some sitting House Members, like they’ve been SWATting MTG this week. Maybe wind up another James Hodgkinson to take care of a few Congressmen.

     

    I’ll overstate the obvious:  Polling.  He’s been losing ground in key demographics, not just the approval numbers.  The only way to fix that is to scare the left and center to eke out a few more percentage points due to volume of voting.

    Sort of like getting butts in seats at the movie theatre.  He’s done everything else – spent hundreds of billions to buy votes through various means (student loans, inflation spending insanity), he’s done some international traveling and finger-wagging at bad guys.  Now all that’s left close to the election is to scare enough educated suburban women to take the time and get out and vote in enough volume to make a difference.

    We’ll see if it works.  As to the thinking, someone is doing it for him, and he’s going along with the suggestions, because enfeeble.

    Like Jonah when someone tells him what he’s going to have for dinner, now shut up and eat it and tell me you like your num-nums!  Yes you DO!  Yes you DO!

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  14. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    But seriously? What was the point? Incitement? An attempt to provoke violence to give them an excuse to start rounding up and executing conservatives? (You know, like the FBI and the capitol police provoked the demonstrators outside the capitol on January 6th?)

    Why did he do this? What was the purpose, except to further divide the country and incite his followers to kill a few Republicans. Maybe some SCOTUS judges. Maybe some Republican candidates. Maybe some sitting House Members, like they’ve been SWATting MTG this week. Maybe wind up another James Hodgkinson to take care of a few Congressmen.

     

    Probably.

    Our country has a soul?  That’s weird coming from the head of the party that seems to treat the God-fearing like they’re Maga Maniacs ™.

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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    What was even the point of this speech? Why did he call for a prime time address? What occasioned this?

    Can anyone tell me?

    To be granted prime time network access a speech is supposed to not be political. Of course Biden lied and it was a campaign speech.

    For who? Satan?

    Seems that way.

    Now would be time for Nordlinger to compare this to a beer hall speech instead of Trump’s inauguration speech. Once again Biden is the embodiment of what they feared Trump would be.

    What they claimed they feared Trump would be. Their total acceptance of Biden shows they were nothing but liars.

    Nordlinger, Goldberg, Krystol, Podhoretz, Williamson, : Liars. All Liars. Total black hearts that only want to cling to their power keyboards.

     

     

    Fixed it for you.

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  16. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    Biden’s handlers apparently thought it would be better to stage Biden with blood-red lighting and Marines standing at attention, suggesting a cross between the 6th circle of Hell and a Fidel Castro rally.

    I kept hoping that the blonde lady from the Apple 1984 Super Bowl commercial would come running in and smash the TV screen. No such luck.

    Because she was hot?

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  17. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Who is the extremist?

    In Jennifer’s defense, she’s just making sure she’s on the right side of history.  I hear they eat those people last.

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  18. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    But seriously? What was the point? Incitement? An attempt to provoke violence to give them an excuse to start rounding up and executing conservatives? (You know, like the FBI and the capitol police provoked the demonstrators outside the capitol on January 6th?)

    Why did he do this? What was the purpose, except to further divide the country and incite his followers to kill a few Republicans. Maybe some SCOTUS judges. Maybe some Republican candidates. Maybe some sitting House Members, like they’ve been SWATting MTG this week. Maybe wind up another James Hodgkinson to take care of a few Congressmen.

     

    I too am baffled about who thought this whole thing was a good idea. Somebody did. A large group of important somebodies. The divisive, hate-filled rhetoric, not just this speech, but repeated in multiple settings over multiple days, including at least one in which the President suggested that he’d be willing to use warplanes to attack citizens of the USA;. The visual setting so clearly evocative of totalitarian force, including the color, the lighting, the inclusion of the military.

    I know there is a high level of ignorance among the younger people who probably had a big hand in the details of putting this together. But that visual setting has been used so much in relatively recent history and in media to illustrate totalitarianism, that it is impossible to believe that the people who put the whole thing together were unaware that it would be seen as a sign that totalitarian rule is here or on its way. I might believe that some of the people who prepared the speech and its setting are so ignorant that they truly think “MAGA Republicans” is some tiny fringe, and do not recognize the parallels the speech language brings up to past mass extermination events, but there are supposed to be adults somewhere around the White House to point that out to the ignorant.

    There have been several suggestions here of sinister and evil motives. Do we really think that such evil has so thoroughly penetrated the government that they really do think evil is good and good is evil? If the objective truly was to get large numbers of Americans killed or arrested, then evil has taken over, and we have on our hands an even bigger problem than we thought.

    But assuming there are still not evil people in our government, some group of them thought this speech (including its setting) would accomplish some societal good. I’m not seeing how. But maybe someone more familiar than I am with what the popular culture is saying can enlighten me.

    The other idea is that it’s meant to troll and provoke, to elicit a response that the administration can then say “Hey, I told you they were extremists”, while gassing/beating protestors.  Which seems to be fine as long as it’s the right kind of protestor getting gassed/beaten.

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    Gazpacho Grande' (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    And in case you were morbidly curious, Jonah is on Team Palpatine.

     

    This is just reinforcement of the previously-super-reinforced notion that Jonah has waddled off into the desert, unattended. Quickly now, someone fetch him back before he faceplants in the cholla.

    And get him some pants.

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    OMG

    So it is for the rich. Got it.

    21 grand is the cheapest? Even when I was a CEO there was no way.

    Must be nice to be able to blow that kind of cash.

     

    This is why at Ricochet I always feel like I suddenly fell in among the upper crust, and if they ever saw where I live and what I make, I would be shunned as one of those lowlife beggars you pass on the street corners.

    Actually, I’m confident that both Hillsdale and National Review cruises cost more than I get in an entire year.

    If you compare the cost of a regular cruise, which is more than the advertised price, and compare with the cost of the NR cruise, then figure out the difference, the NR portion isn’t bad. Then compare with a week inside DC or at Disney. For us, it is our vacation. It wasn’t anything I could do while in the Air Force or while having young children. I know it isn’t everyone’s idea of a vacation.

    Once you transition from planning for retirement to planning for your funeral, and you are attending funerals for people your age, bucket list items become a part of your annual adventures.

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  21. The Reticulator Member
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    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Who is the extremist?

    Rod Dreher now thinks it’s a fake account.  Maybe somebody should find the real one to see what she’s been saying.

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  22. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Who is the extremist?

    Rod Dreher now thinks it’s a fake account. Maybe somebody should find the real one to see what she’s been saying.

    The Tweet may have been faked, but the account is her real account. And she stand by Biden’s words.

    She says “It’s not my account” but it is from “JRubinBlogger” . . . which is her account.

    I suspect she posted it. Deleted it, and is now pulling the Joy Reid-patented “I was hacked” garbage. Her pals at the Washington Post are defending her. One is even calling it “satire,” (which is odd because as written there’s nothing satirical about it. Just wrong-headed and evil), but I think rather she posted it, then deleted it, but not before it was screen-shotted, and now she’s trying to do damage control.

    They say “But the time stamp is all wrong! The President’s speech hadn’t even started yet.”

    (As if they’re unaware of time zones. That deleted tweet has a later time stamp than several earlier ones praising and quoting the speech.)

    So I don’t think it’s fake at all.

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  23. Franco Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

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    Who is the extremist?

    Rod Dreher now thinks it’s a fake account. Maybe somebody should find the real one to see what she’s been saying.

    The Tweet may have been faked, but the account is her real account. And she stand by Biden’s words.

    She says “It’s not my account” but it is from “JRubinBlogger” . . . which is her account.

    I suspect she posted it. Deleted it, and is now pulling the Joy Reid-patented “I was hacked” garbage. Her pals at the Washington Post are defending her. One is even calling it “satire,” (which is odd because as written there’s nothing satirical about it. Just wrong-headed and evil), but I think rather she posted it, then deleted it, but not before it was screen-shotted, and now she’s trying to do damage control.

    They say “But the time stamp is all wrong! The President’s speech hadn’t even started yet.”

    (As if they’re unaware of time zones. That deleted tweet has a later time stamp than several earlier ones praising and quoting the speech.)

    So I don’t think it’s fake at all.

    Who cares what that creepy little fraud thinks?

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  24. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
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    Franco (View Comment):

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    They say “But the time stamp is all wrong! The President’s speech hadn’t even started yet.”

    (As if they’re unaware of time zones. That deleted tweet has a later time stamp than several earlier ones praising and quoting the speech.)

    So I don’t think it’s fake at all.

    Who cares what that creepy little fraud thinks?

    Jen Rubin? Not me. However, given her platform at the Washington Post, she is in a position to influence low-information-voters and other fence-sitters. The holy “independents” and mushy middle that the Trump Haters think we have to court by adopting Democrat policies. And because she’s in that position, she must be exposed.

    But I want to point out those running cover for her with cries of “fake!” Because their proofs aren’t proof at all, and Sherlock Holmes would have laughed at them for presenting such flimsy evidence.

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    Gazpacho Grande' (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    And in case you were morbidly curious, Jonah is on Team Palpatine.

     

    This is just reinforcement of the previously-super-reinforced notion that Jonah has waddled off into the desert, unattended. Quickly now, someone fetch him back before he faceplants in the cholla.

    I think he should faceplant, good and hard.  Serves him right.

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  26. Red Herring Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

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    Who is the extremist?

    Rod Dreher now thinks it’s a fake account. Maybe somebody should find the real one to see what she’s been saying.

    The Tweet may have been faked, but the account is her real account. And she stand by Biden’s words.

    She says “It’s not my account” but it is from “JRubinBlogger” . . . which is her account.

    I suspect she posted it. Deleted it, and is now pulling the Joy Reid-patented “I was hacked” garbage. Her pals at the Washington Post are defending her. One is even calling it “satire,” (which is odd because as written there’s nothing satirical about it. Just wrong-headed and evil), but I think rather she posted it, then deleted it, but not before it was screen-shotted, and now she’s trying to do damage control.

    They say “But the time stamp is all wrong! The President’s speech hadn’t even started yet.”

    (As if they’re unaware of time zones. That deleted tweet has a later time stamp than several earlier ones praising and quoting the speech.)

    So I don’t think it’s fake at all.

    They are so deep in their Trump hatred that they can’t help themselves.

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    OMG

    So it is for the rich. Got it.

    21 grand is the cheapest? Even when I was a CEO there was no way.

    Must be nice to be able to blow that kind of cash.

     

    This is why at Ricochet I always feel like I suddenly fell in among the upper crust, and if they ever saw where I live and what I make, I would be shunned as one of those lowlife beggars you pass on the street corners.

    Actually, I’m confident that both Hillsdale and National Review cruises cost more than I get in an entire year.

    If you compare the cost of a regular cruise, which is more than the advertised price, and compare with the cost of the NR cruise, then figure out the difference, the NR portion isn’t bad. Then compare with a week inside DC or at Disney. For us, it is our vacation. It wasn’t anything I could do while in the Air Force or while having young children. I know it isn’t everyone’s idea of a vacation.

    Once you transition from planning for retirement to planning for your funeral, and you are attending funerals for people your age, bucket list items become a part of your annual adventures.

    I could never afford any of those vacations.  Not even once.

    • #237
  28. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens
    @BryanGStephens

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    OMG

    So it is for the rich. Got it.

    21 grand is the cheapest? Even when I was a CEO there was no way.

    Must be nice to be able to blow that kind of cash.

     

    This is why at Ricochet I always feel like I suddenly fell in among the upper crust, and if they ever saw where I live and what I make, I would be shunned as one of those lowlife beggars you pass on the street corners.

    Actually, I’m confident that both Hillsdale and National Review cruises cost more than I get in an entire year.

    If you compare the cost of a regular cruise, which is more than the advertised price, and compare with the cost of the NR cruise, then figure out the difference, the NR portion isn’t bad. Then compare with a week inside DC or at Disney. For us, it is our vacation. It wasn’t anything I could do while in the Air Force or while having young children. I know it isn’t everyone’s idea of a vacation.

    Once you transition from planning for retirement to planning for your funeral, and you are attending funerals for people your age, bucket list items become a part of your annual adventures.

    I could never afford any of those vacations. Not even once.

    And I  never will. Boomers get the great retirement. 

    The rest of us will work until we die.  Retirement was a blip.

    • #238
  29. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    OMG

    So it is for the rich. Got it.

    21 grand is the cheapest? Even when I was a CEO there was no way.

    Must be nice to be able to blow that kind of cash.

     

    This is why at Ricochet I always feel like I suddenly fell in among the upper crust, and if they ever saw where I live and what I make, I would be shunned as one of those lowlife beggars you pass on the street corners.

    Actually, I’m confident that both Hillsdale and National Review cruises cost more than I get in an entire year.

    If you compare the cost of a regular cruise, which is more than the advertised price, and compare with the cost of the NR cruise, then figure out the difference, the NR portion isn’t bad. Then compare with a week inside DC or at Disney. For us, it is our vacation. It wasn’t anything I could do while in the Air Force or while having young children. I know it isn’t everyone’s idea of a vacation.

    Once you transition from planning for retirement to planning for your funeral, and you are attending funerals for people your age, bucket list items become a part of your annual adventures.

    I could never afford any of those vacations. Not even once.

    A vacation is anywhere you can relax and enjoy yourself. For years in the Air Force, my vacations (my days on leave) were a week off to go see my immediate family or a week off when they came to see me.  Now I have retired and live near my kids and grandchildren. I don’t have to factor How many days off I can take.  I am as content on my porch as anywhere so I rarely leave for even a week. 

    • #239
  30. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    OMG

    So it is for the rich. Got it.

    21 grand is the cheapest? Even when I was a CEO there was no way.

    Must be nice to be able to blow that kind of cash.

     

    This is why at Ricochet I always feel like I suddenly fell in among the upper crust, and if they ever saw where I live and what I make, I would be shunned as one of those lowlife beggars you pass on the street corners.

    Actually, I’m confident that both Hillsdale and National Review cruises cost more than I get in an entire year.

    If you compare the cost of a regular cruise, which is more than the advertised price, and compare with the cost of the NR cruise, then figure out the difference, the NR portion isn’t bad. Then compare with a week inside DC or at Disney. For us, it is our vacation. It wasn’t anything I could do while in the Air Force or while having young children. I know it isn’t everyone’s idea of a vacation.

    Once you transition from planning for retirement to planning for your funeral, and you are attending funerals for people your age, bucket list items become a part of your annual adventures.

    I could never afford any of those vacations. Not even once.

    And I never will. Boomers get the great retirement.

    The rest of us will work until we die. Retirement was a blip.

    I feel for those born after us. It bothers me that the federal government and some state governments are sucking the life blood out of the working class. 

    • #240
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