Biden Warns That MAGA Republicans Pose ‘Clear and Present Danger’ to Nation

 

It was fitting for Joe Biden to deliver Thursday night’s Independence Hall speech at a venue lit by gas lights. Backed by a blood-red background and two military men shrouded in darkness, the president condemned half the nation as insurrectionists who pose a “clear and present danger” to the United States.

The language was deliberate as it was divisive. “Clear and present danger” is a legal doctrine created by the Woodrow Wilson-era Supreme Court to curtail the free speech of Americans. At the time, an antiwar activist was jailed for advocating draft resistance during World War I. In Schenck v. United States (1919), Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., wrote for the majority:

The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that the United States Congress has a right to prevent. It is a question of proximity and degree. When a nation is at war, many things that might be said in time of peace are such a hindrance to its effort that their utterance will not be endured so long as men fight, and that no Court could regard them as protected by any constitutional right.

Thereafter, courts employed the “clear and present danger test” to limit citizens’ First Amendment rights. That is, until Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969) replaced it to address only “imminent lawless action.”

Notably, Biden resurrected this extinct phrase to attack his political enemies just as the authoritarian Wilson used it to attack his detractors. He floated a legal pretext to silence Republicans heading into the midterm elections. The administration has already directed tech companies to ban dissenting voices on social media, so such a move would be in character. Not to mention using the FBI to raid Trump’s home and the DoJ to harass Trump’s legal team.

The speech, titled “Soul of the Nation,” was an attempt to reframe the November elections as a battle between the virtuous bearers of light (like himself) and the sinister, Ultra MAGA semi-fascists. His serial message-switching between good-vs.-evil rhetoric and bipartisan unity was jarring.

“Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our Republic,” Biden said, adding they “are determined to take this country backward … promote authoritarian leaders and fan the flames of political violence.”

“For a long time, we’ve reassured ourselves that American democracy is guaranteed. But it is not,” Biden said between coughs. “We have to defend it. Protect it. Stand up for it. Each and every one of us.”

Having dropped back to a 38 percent approval rating, the president and his allies are obviously sweating the election looming two months away. Joe “he’s gonna put y’all back in chains” Biden has thus reverted to form, spreading hatred and division in the name of “preserving democracy.”

But a one-party state isn’t democracy. It’s an oligarchy at best and authoritarianism at worst.

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  1. 1787Libertarian Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    What was even the point of this speech? Why did he call for a prime time address? What occasioned this?

    Can anyone tell me?

    To be granted prime time network access a speech is supposed to not be political. Of course Biden lied and it was a campaign speech.

    For who? Satan?

    Seems that way.

    Now would be time for Nordlinger to compare this to a beer hall speech instead of Trump’s inauguration speech. Once again Biden is the embodiment of what they feared Trump would be.

    What they claimed they feared Trump would be. Their total acceptance of Biden shows they were nothing but liars.

    Nordlinger, Goldberg, Krystol, Podhoretz, Williamson, : Liars. All Liars. Total black hearts that only want to cling to their power.

     

     

     

    That is what puzzles me most of about this bunch – Biden is just a big a demagogue as Trump – his family is way more corrupt. His foreign policy has been a mess and economic polices even worse

    These guys will never condemn Biden they way they did with Trump

     

    I think with some of these guys (David French and Kristol), it about being “right” than policy

     

     

     

     

    No it’s about serving your Leftist pay masters.

    https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/29/leftist-dark-money-funds-conservatives-to-stab-trump-voters-in-the-back/

    I have tried and tried to get Ricochet’s Leading Never Trumper™ to understand this.

     

    You won’t reach him as you probably know. So the only thing left to do is to give him the treatment that Biden wants to give us. 

     

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  2. MWD B612 "Dawg" Member
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    No Caesar (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Who is the extremist?

    Because nothing says “I’m against fascism” better than calling for mass arrests.

     

    Is she trolling?

    Since she deleted it, probably not.

     

    This is a parody. The Tweeter that posted it said so. I’ll try to find the exact disclaimer.

    Though it’s telling that so many believe Ms. Rubin is capable of calling for such things. She paved the way for it.

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  3. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    So, what do I, personally, need to do about it?

    See the thing is, I am helpless. The enemy controls everything and everyone in power.

    Gather ’round you trustworthy people. Form your tribe and take care of each other. Because there ain’t nobody else watching out for us. We’re going to have to take care of each other from here on out.

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  4. Stina Member
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    Peckish Cedar (View Comment):

    Biden did an excellent job illustrating once and for all to all who have half a brain and eyes to see the danger is both clear and very present. If you ever doubted the existence of God, you must at least now be able to see Satan is very real. He always uses the same formula. There is nothing new beneath the sun. Fallen man will always have his Hitlers, Stalins, Maos, and Bidens and those who enable and worship them . Fallen man will always proclaim their sins are good and denounce good as evil. Exclaim, hate is love and love is hate. Satan mostly stays in the background, but he can’t help jumping in front of the camera from time to time yelling “It’s me!” I don’t know if Biden is smart enough to know who is pulling his strings, but I pray he comes to his senses and repents for his own sake. If we stay strong and steadfast with God, we’ll be fine. Keep your eye on the ball.

    I am reading a book that had something interesting to say on the cliche that those who study history are doomed to repeat it. The response to that was we are doomed to repeat it whether we know it or not because we are all still the same struggling humanity with the same failings and the same rebellion against God and the received wisdom of our forefathers.

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  5. Western Chauvinist Member
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    The irony is Jonah Goldberg wouldn’t know liberal fascism when its standing in front of a red-lit “Liberty Hall” with military backup giving a speech advocating for the suppression of political opposition. The devil is getting a good laugh about now.

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  6. BDB Inactive
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    The irony is Jonah Goldberg wouldn’t know liberal fascism when its standing in front of a red-lit “Liberty Hall” with military backup giving a speech advocating for the suppression of political opposition. The devil is getting a good laugh about now.

    Heh.  Great point.  This image could be the cover of Goldberg’s book!  But he supports it.

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  7. No Caesar Thatcher
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    BDB (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    The irony is Jonah Goldberg wouldn’t know liberal fascism when its standing in front of a red-lit “Liberty Hall” with military backup giving a speech advocating for the suppression of political opposition. The devil is getting a good laugh about now.

    Heh. Great point. This image could be the cover of Goldberg’s book! But he supports it.

    And though the author of Liberal Fascism has morphed into the kind of lazy compromised shill who now uses his own book as an instruction manual rather than the political jeremiad it once was, it remains true that when you’ve even semi-lost Goldberg, you risk losing those legions of putative Republicans heretofore willing to elect progressive Democrats in order to conserve conservatism.

    Protein Wisdom Reborn – When Turnips Attack.   H/T Instapundit

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  8. Full Size Tabby Member
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    In my curiosity about why a group of someones in the White House thought that speech and its visual presentation was a good idea I went to the CNN website. The speech doesn’t even exist there.  As though CNN editors don’t want people to know that Biden even gave a speech. But there are multiple articles about the raid on Mar A Lago and the legal issues facing former president Trump.  I also saw on Fox News an article about Biden trying to walk back what he said in the speech. 

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  9. Carlotta Member
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    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    In my curiosity about why a group of someones in the White House thought that speech and its visual presentation was a good idea I went to the CNN website. The speech doesn’t even exist there. As though CNN editors don’t want people to know that Biden even gave a speech. But there are multiple articles about the raid on Mar A Lago and the legal issues facing former president Trump. I also saw on Fox News an article about Biden trying to walk back what he said in the speech.

    Well, it’s there, but it’s definitely below the fold.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/01/politics/joe-biden-democracy-speech/index.html

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/02/politics/biden-trump-threat-to-democracy-analysis/index.html

    And even a very mild counterpoint:

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/02/politics/biden-philadelphia-speech-criticism-marines-cnntv/index.html

     

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  10. Full Size Tabby Member
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    Carlotta (View Comment):

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    In my curiosity about why a group of someones in the White House thought that speech and its visual presentation was a good idea I went to the CNN website. The speech doesn’t even exist there. As though CNN editors don’t want people to know that Biden even gave a speech. But there are multiple articles about the raid on Mar A Lago and the legal issues facing former president Trump. I also saw on Fox News an article about Biden trying to walk back what he said in the speech.

    Well, it’s there, but it’s definitely below the fold.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/01/politics/joe-biden-democracy-speech/index.html

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/02/politics/biden-trump-threat-to-democracy-analysis/index.html

    And even a very mild counterpoint:

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/02/politics/biden-philadelphia-speech-criticism-marines-cnntv/index.html

     

    OK, but “below the fold” isn’t going to be noticed by the general public. A “prime time” speech by the president of the United States is a big deal. If it’s not on the top of the front page of the news media, the news media is trying to bury it. 

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  11. El Rando Moderator
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    Carlotta (View Comment):

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    In my curiosity about why a group of someones in the White House thought that speech and its visual presentation was a good idea I went to the CNN website. The speech doesn’t even exist there. As though CNN editors don’t want people to know that Biden even gave a speech. But there are multiple articles about the raid on Mar A Lago and the legal issues facing former president Trump. I also saw on Fox News an article about Biden trying to walk back what he said in the speech.

    Well, it’s there, but it’s definitely below the fold.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/01/politics/joe-biden-democracy-speech/index.html

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/02/politics/biden-trump-threat-to-democracy-analysis/index.html

    And even a very mild counterpoint:

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/02/politics/biden-philadelphia-speech-criticism-marines-cnntv/index.html

     

    Thanks.  Perhaps someone has already posted a link of the video and I missed it, but if not, here it is so you can watch the whole thing.
    https://youtu.be/NA3Outfs7K8

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  12. Front Seat Cat Member
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    No Caesar (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Who is the extremist?

    Because nothing says “I’m against fascism” better than calling for mass arrests.

     

    Is she trolling?

    Is she a real person? Maybe it’s a fake account…..

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  13. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
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    My lord, he really is pretending he never said what we all clearly heard him say.

    “Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our Republic,” Biden said. “There’s no question that the Republican Party today is dominated, driven, and intimidated by Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans. And that is a threat to this country.”

    Following rare criticism from even CNN, Biden on Friday sought to back away from the divisive message he delivered . . .

    “I don’t consider any Trump supporter to be a threat,” the president told reporters on Friday.

    Just one day earlier, however, Biden even tweeted that Trump supporters were a “threat to the very soul of this country.”

    And it’s entirely possible that given his mental state (and potential for being controlled by supernatural forces) he really may not remember what he said.

    When do you think the demon entered his mind? The first time he molested a child?

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  14. Seawriter Contributor
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    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):

    No Caesar (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Who is the extremist?

    Because nothing says “I’m against fascism” better than calling for mass arrests.

     

    Is she trolling?

    Is she a real person? Maybe it’s a fake account…..

    No one is sure whether is really was a Jen Rubin tweet or a hoax. Beth Mandel originally thought it real, but now believes it a hoax.

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  15. Carlotta Member
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    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    Carlotta (View Comment):

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    In my curiosity about why a group of someones in the White House thought that speech and its visual presentation was a good idea I went to the CNN website. The speech doesn’t even exist there. As though CNN editors don’t want people to know that Biden even gave a speech. But there are multiple articles about the raid on Mar A Lago and the legal issues facing former president Trump. I also saw on Fox News an article about Biden trying to walk back what he said in the speech.

    Well, it’s there, but it’s definitely below the fold.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/01/politics/joe-biden-democracy-speech/index.html

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/02/politics/biden-trump-threat-to-democracy-analysis/index.html

    And even a very mild counterpoint:

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/02/politics/biden-philadelphia-speech-criticism-marines-cnntv/index.html

     

    OK, but “below the fold” isn’t going to be noticed by the general public. A “prime time” speech by the president of the United States is a big deal. If it’s not on the top of the front page of the news media, the news media is trying to bury it.

    Oh, there’s not a doubt in my mind that the media is trying to bury it.

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  16. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
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    They’re flailing around. Joe’s trying to walk it back. Some in the White House are reinforcing his evil statements. Nobody knows who to check in with.

    Oft evil will shall evil mar.

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  17. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    They’re flailing around. Joe’s trying to walk it back. Some in the White House are reinforcing his evil statements. Nobody knows who to check in with.

    Oft evil will shall evil mar.

    His White House press secretary said if you are not with the majority you are An extremist.

     

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  18. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):
    His White House press secretary said if you are not with the majority you are An extremist.

    Yes, a very fascinating statement. Deviate from majority opinions on anything — you’re an extremist. Do not leave the group. Connect to the hive mind. You are Borg!

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  19. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):
    His White House press secretary said if you are not with the majority you are An extremist.

    Yes, a very fascinating statement. Deviate from majority opinions on anything — you’re an extremist. Do not leave the group. Connect to the hive mind. You are Borg!

    But, it’s not Trump, so it is OK.

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  20. RufusRJones Member
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  21. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

     

     

     

    They went from deniers to supporters. 

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  22. RushBabe49 Thatcher
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    So, how many of us will be going on this year’s NR Cruise?

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  23. CACrabtree Coolidge
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    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    So, how many of us will be going on this year’s NR Cruise?

    You can have my seat.  This week Charles Cooke penned an article entitled “Save Our Political System: Impeach and Convict Joe Biden”.  Two days later he wrote an article entitled “Donald Trump is still a Lunatic”.  I assume he has someone else in mind for the Presidency; or maybe he’s just conflicted.

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  24. RushBabe49 Thatcher
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    We will not be going on any cruises, since they all require Covid vaccination, and Ray is a refusenik (and I abide by his choice).  It looks like we will not be able to go to Canada either, for the same reason.

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  25. Skyler Coolidge
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    Bill Clinton went to visit Russia for a number of months when he was young.  I believe Hillary was with him.  That was in the middle of  the cold war.  No one did that who wasn’t interested in supporting communism.

    Obama notoriously wrote that the biggest influences in his life were communists.

    We are now experiencing unrelenting communist methods to destroy us.   The crazier the “woke” agenda, the more insane, then the more they demonstrate that they can force us to comply with anything that they want us to do.  

    Now, Joe Biden isn’t a communist.  He’s too stupid to be one.  He’s a thug who prospered only because he was tall with a big smile and he spoke about whatever he was told to talk about, without ever really knowing what he was saying.  

    This speech had nothing to do with will of Biden, he has no will left, he’s a drooling senescent moron.  His handlers are driving their agenda to destroy us harder and harder.  

    The satanic imagery was intentional. It was meant to rile us up.  Coincidentally, that Fetterman guy looks pretty satanic with his beard and facial features.  I’m not sure if that is intentional or not.  

    The CIA and the FBI are acting as though they will never have to atone for their perfidy.  They have every expectation of being perpetually in power.  

    Biden’s mouthpiece says that anyone not agreeing with their agenda is an “extremist.”

    We are approaching an abyss.  If we don’t wrest control of Congress and allow them to steal more elections, then we are done.  Even if we do succeed in countering their ballot box stuffing, they will never stop.  

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  26. BDB Inactive
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    They’re flailing around. Joe’s trying to walk it back. Some in the White House are reinforcing his evil statements. Nobody knows who to check in with.

    Oft evil will shall evil mar.

    His White House press secretary said if you are not with the majority you are An extremist.

     

    Get hip, kids.  Raggedy Anntifa just doubled down on Biden declaring war on WELL OVER half of the country.

     

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  27. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    So, how many of us will be going on this year’s NR Cruise?

    Never.

     

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  28. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    CACrabtree (View Comment):

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    So, how many of us will be going on this year’s NR Cruise?

    You can have my seat. This week Charles Cooke penned an article entitled “Save Our Political System: Impeach and Convict Joe Biden”. Two days later he wrote an article entitled “Donald Trump is still a Lunatic”. I assume he has someone else in mind for the Presidency; or maybe he’s just conflicted.

    He hates us. He hates Trump supporters.  If he says different he is lying, even if it is tonhimself.

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  29. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
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    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    So, how many of us will be going on this year’s NR Cruise?

    Is NR a magazine that has cruises, or a travel agency that has a newsletter?

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  30. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    So, how many of us will be going on this year’s NR Cruise?

    Is NR a magazine that has cruises, or a travel agency that has a newsletter?

    Or  grifters?

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