From the Police Blotter: House Mouse Roars

 

What is a “House Mouse”? It’s time for a review of police jargon. There are phrases that you will never see on an Incident or Custody Report.

Police jargon is dependent upon geographical location. For example, “perp” is used on the East Coast, “subject” is used on the West Coast.

Police Jargon 101:

1. Anti-Social Tendencies; Resists arrest.
2. Frequent Flyer; Runs from the police in a vehicle or on foot.
3. Slow learner; See #1 and #2
4. Dumb Ass; Self-explanatory, also see #1 and #2. Used often on the street.
5. House Mouse; used on the East Coast to describe a supervisor that spends time avoiding the street. Second guesses cops that do real police work.
6. Admin Cop; See #5. Used on the West Coast

There is some jargon that would violate the Code of Conduct on Ricochet. Some do not contain a vowel. One of those might be one that was unique to my former agency. JFB (Just [redacted] Beautiful), you can figure out that one. It was used to describe the latest demand from the mayor, admin cop, or any number of calls, and incidents that came your way.

Eric Adams, the Mayor of the City of New York, is demanding that NYPD officers no longer congregate or talk to each on the street. One would think he might worry about individuals who talk to each other and congregate to carry out muggings, shootings, or smash-and-grabs in the city.

Eric Adams was a high-ranking NYPD officer at one time. There are some NYPD officers that call him a House Mouse. I don’t know if that’s true, but he certainly speaks like one. He says he supports the NYPD, but talk is cheap.

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  1. Doug Watt Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Doug Watt (View Comment):
    Don’t like red light cameras, radar vans, neither do I. Don’t like police officers having access to AR-15’s then give up your AR-15. The only reason they have them is because you do.

    Yeah, that’s a big “forget you” buddy. That’s not how it works.

    Exactly. I have no problem with the 2nd Amendment. I don’t have any problem with concealed carry. You have a right to your own life. You know who has a problem with that? It’s lawmakers.

    Want to clean up the FBI. Well, it’s lawyers at the top. Lawyers who have no street experience. Lawyers that manipulate judges, a polite word for lying. Lawyers in the DOJ, and lawyers in the FBI, not police officers that know if they lie to a judge their career is finished. Not only that every conviction they may have been involved in could be overturned.

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  2. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    If you live in a state that allows speed traps, or sobriety check points then you need to put some pressure on your state legislature to abolish them. Oregon as woke as it might be does not allow those things.

    As far as anecdotal stories about encounters with police officers go, I don’t comment on them. I have no idea if I’m getting the full story. I didn’t arrest people based upon hearsay, or an anecdotal story.

    Training whether for police work or any other profession does not instill virtue. Prisons, military stockades, or brigs are populated by individuals that have diplomas, whether it is college, high school, or completing basic training.

    Don’t like red light cameras, radar vans, neither do I. Don’t like police officers having access to AR-15’s then give up your AR-15. The only reason they have them is because you do.

    Police officers don’t write laws, they are legislated by elected officials. I’ll add my own generalizations. The vast majority of legislators are lawyers, and they write laws that benefit other lawyers. Judges that appear on the ballot are lawyers whose practice is failing. The Bar Association gets them on the ballot to give them a helping hand.

    Personal experiences with cops are the foundation for how one feels about them. But hey, I guess I am not giving you the full story. 

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  3. The Reticulator Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):
    But hey, I guess I am not giving you the full story. 

    Most people don’t. 

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  4. Skyler Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Our safety is not important.

    If car stops are the most dangerous things they do, why do they do so much if it.

    It’s a stain on our country’s legacy that we even have license plates.  If our founders were asked if wagons and one-horse shays should be required to have license plates, they’d have snorted in derision.  Sadly though, technology won’t require them much longer as facial recognition and other biometrics are making them passe.

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  5. The Reticulator Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Our safety is not important.

    If car stops are the most dangerous things they do, why do they do so much if it.

    It’s a stain on our country’s legacy that we even have license plates. If our founders were asked if wagons and one-horse shays should be required to have license plates, they’d have snorted in derision. Sadly though, technology won’t require them much longer as facial recognition and other biometrics are making them passe.

    I’ve long wanted to understand why God was so angry at King David for taking a census. It may have had something to do with this. 

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  6. Franco Member
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    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):

    Talking about police jargon, I’ve been wondering what “real quick” means to police. They say it really often, but I never, ever see them doing much of anything “real quick”.

    We are supposed to believe that everything is just casual and routine when it’s actually all a plan to control and arrest the perp or subject for something.

    I also wonder what “for me” means as used by cops, as in “can you exit the vehicle for me real quick?” For who?

    For you, Officer Krumkee as a personal favor because you’re such a nice guy? How about you write me a warning for my broken tail light instead of trying to fish for evidence or see if I’m holding enough cash for you to confiscate, and let be get back to being a productive citizen?

    For me?

     

    It is for the officer’s safety. Step out of the car so he can verify you are not armed. There is a court precedent that says an officer can order you to leave your vehicle. So yes, it is for him & his safety.

    So the broken tail light makes the officer risk his life for the safety of drivers? There’s no other concern he might have for the public being subjected to violent criminals?

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  7. Franco Member
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    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    If you live in a state that allows speed traps, or sobriety check points then you need to put some pressure on your state legislature to abolish them. Oregon as woke as it might be does not allow those things.

    As far as anecdotal stories about encounters with police officers go, I don’t comment on them. I have no idea if I’m getting the full story. I didn’t arrest people based upon hearsay, or an anecdotal story.

    Police officers don’t write laws, they are legislated by elected officials. I’ll add my own generalizations. The vast majority of legislators are lawyers, and they write laws that benefit other lawyers. Judges that appear on the ballot are lawyers whose practice is failing. The Bar Association gets them on the ballot to give them a helping hand.

    So, in other words, the system is corrupt and police officers are just following orders from their corrupt bosses – who they know are corrupt – but they still deserve a pass because they have pretty much the same observations and opinions, but will still arrest you for not wearing a mask on a public beach.  

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  8. Doug Watt Member
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    Franco (View Comment):

    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    If you live in a state that allows speed traps, or sobriety check points then you need to put some pressure on your state legislature to abolish them. Oregon as woke as it might be does not allow those things.

    As far as anecdotal stories about encounters with police officers go, I don’t comment on them. I have no idea if I’m getting the full story. I didn’t arrest people based upon hearsay, or an anecdotal story.

    Police officers don’t write laws, they are legislated by elected officials. I’ll add my own generalizations. The vast majority of legislators are lawyers, and they write laws that benefit other lawyers. Judges that appear on the ballot are lawyers whose practice is failing. The Bar Association gets them on the ballot to give them a helping hand.

    So, in other words, the system is corrupt and police officers are just following orders from their corrupt bosses – who they know are corrupt – but they still deserve a pass because they have pretty much the same observations and opinions, but will still arrest you for not wearing a mask on a public beach.

    Well as some on Ricochet say again and again voters get what they deserve. I don’t believe in that. I lived in an area where the police weren’t used to enforce unlegislated mandates. I find this to be a feature of the East Coast and the Midwest. LA and San Francisco might be an exception.

    I have some disdain for the East Coast politicians. They use police officers as bill collectors. When it comes to the Northeast after the Revolutionary War, they didn’t waste much time trying to get rid of the Bill of Rights. 

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  9. Doug Watt Member
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    Police officers have some discretion when it comes violations. A violation is an offense that does not include imprisonment. There are two types of offensives violations and crimes. Crimes can include both a fine and imprisonment.

    If a freeway is posted at 55 miles an hour and everyone was driving at 65 MPH and maintaining lane discipline, I didn’t stop the parade. I had my own selfish reasons for doing so. When you start a shift at 6:00 PM and end a shift at 4:00 AM having to go to traffic court at 9:00 AM on a regular basis is not very appealing.

    Driving under the influence, or DUII in Oregon is a traffic crime that becomes a different matter. If I believe someone is DUII then that motorist is a danger to others.

    Driving at 100 MPH in a 55 zone becomes Reckless Endangerment, a traffic crime. Attempting to Elude is a traffic crime.

    The fastest pursuit I was involved in with other officers reached speeds of 90 MPH in a 35 zone. There is nothing glamorous about that. If you are not worried about your own mortality or someone else’s mortality at some point, you’re an idiot. It involved a suspect that had armed robbery warrants and when it ended a sawed-off shotgun was found in his car.

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  10. Franco Member
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    Doug Watt (View Comment):
    Well as some on Ricochet say again and again voters get what they deserve.

    This presumes that voters have some kind of control. They really don’t. After all the bureaucratic filters and legalese and embedded edicts, ‘voters’ have little or no control. This is compounded by the fact that politicians losing elections isn’t any kind of career killer. In fact it’s just the beginning of their wealth curve. 

    And you, copper, are saying to us, in effect: Too bad your other citizens voted for this crap, but I have to enforce it.

    Relegating oneself to be a functionary. Hiding behind lawmakers who you privately disdain, accurately (!),  while protecting oneself from all moral judgement… by citing  the state as a defense.

    A tautology. 

    I long for the days when police were able to use their own discretion. It is not any one person’s fault, but I feel we must acknowledge what is going on first.

     

     

     

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  11. Flicker Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    I never knew so many white men had bad encounters with the police. File under “the things you learn on Ricochet”. . .

    I was walking my friend through New Orleans. I was the designated driver, and he needed a guiding arm, you might say. We weren’t doing anything otherwise. Out of nowhere, a cop came running up behind us, did a flying tackle and slammed my friend against a taxi’s door that was driving by. Broken neck, they charged him with “Obstructing a side walk.” That’s because they can just make stuff up, no one ever thinks a cop is lying.

    I had several people give me business cards from addresses in far distant states, offering to testify for him.

    They decided not to hold him because they didn’t want to deal with the hospital, but a summons was issued for the obstructed sidewalk charge.

    Tell me, how is a sidewalk obstructed on Bourbon Street?

    In the end, my friend was loathe to testify about drinking too much and on his appearance he agreed not to sue the city if they dropped the charges.

    Many cops are good people that follow the law. But you never know if the cop in front of you is one of them.

     

    The only safe this is to assume he us not going to follow the law. Comply to not get shot.

    In GTA5 the cops motto is “Obey and Survive “

    I think, having watched this video several times over recent years, that answering everything with a question may be responsive without declaring anything.  But even if it is, I don’t think I have the discipline to do it consistently.

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  12. Doug Watt Member
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    Franco (View Comment):

    Doug Watt (View Comment):
    Well as some on Ricochet say again and again voters get what they deserve.

    This presumes that voters have some kind of control. They really don’t. After all the bureaucratic filters and legalese and embedded edicts, ‘voters’ have little or no control. This is compounded by the fact that politicians losing elections isn’t any kind of career killer. In fact it’s just the beginning of their wealth curve.

    And you, copper, are saying to us, in effect: Too bad your other citizens voted for this crap, but I have to enforce it.

    Relegating oneself to be a functionary. Hiding behind lawmakers who you privately disdain, accurately (!), while protecting oneself from all moral judgement… by citing the state as a defense.

    A tautology.

    I long for the days when police were able to use their own discretion. It is not any one person’s fault, but I feel we must acknowledge what is going on first.

    You probably should have posted my quote as how I wrote it:

    “Well as some on Ricochet say again and again voters get what they deserve. I don’t believe in that.”

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  13. Flicker Coolidge
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    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    If you live in a state that allows speed traps, or sobriety check points then you need to put some pressure on your state legislature to abolish them. Oregon as woke as it might be does not allow those things.

    As far as anecdotal stories about encounters with police officers go, I don’t comment on them. I have no idea if I’m getting the full story. I didn’t arrest people based upon hearsay, or an anecdotal story.

    Training whether for police work or any other profession does not instill virtue. Prisons, military stockades, or brigs are populated by individuals that have diplomas, whether it is college, high school, or completing basic training.

    Don’t like red light cameras, radar vans, neither do I. Don’t like police officers having access to AR-15’s then give up your AR-15. The only reason they have them is because you do.

    Police officers don’t write laws, they are legislated by elected officials. I’ll add my own generalizations. The vast majority of legislators are lawyers, and they write laws that benefit other lawyers. Judges that appear on the ballot are lawyers whose practice is failing. The Bar Association gets them on the ballot to give them a helping hand.

    And the judges rule more harshly on those without lawyers representing them so that lawyers can make a living, too.

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  14. Flicker Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):
    But hey, I guess I am not giving you the full story.

    Most people don’t.

    Most people never what what’s running through the officer’s mind.  But I do agree with those who say the officer is always believed in routine stops, so long as no one is shot.  And then the officers are almost always believed.

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  15. Doug Watt Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):
    But hey, I guess I am not giving you the full story.

    Most people don’t.

    Most people never what what’s running through the officer’s mind. But I do agree with those who say the officer is always believed in routine stops, so long as no one is shot. And then the officers are almost always believed.

    That depends upon what goes on in traffic court in any given jurisdiction. For example, in Oregon a judge not only has a copy of the cite he/she also has a copy of the drivers DMV history. If you tell the judge, you have a clean DMV record and you don’t you are probably not going to get the benefit of doubt. Every state is different.

    If it’s an equipment violation and you produce a copy of the repair, or a receipt for a lens or bulb the fine is waived in the majority of cases. If the cite is for no insurance producing a receipt for purchasing insurance can persuade a judge to waive a fine,

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  16. Flicker Coolidge
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    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):
    But hey, I guess I am not giving you the full story.

    Most people don’t.

    Most people never what what’s running through the officer’s mind. But I do agree with those who say the officer is always believed in routine stops, so long as no one is shot. And then the officers are almost always believed.

    That depends upon what goes on in traffic court in any given jurisdiction. For example, in Oregon a judge not only has a copy of the cite he/she has also has a copy of the drivers DMV history. If you tell the judge, you have a clean DMV record and you don’t you are probably not going to get the benefit of doubt. Every state is different.

    Well, no, this was published in a newspaper as the professional opinion (and complaint) of a judge who had written in legal circles quite bluntly that the officer is always believed when there is disagreement with the one charged.  The popular and accepted thinking in courts and by judges, he said, was that police officers were trained observers would have no reason to lie, and it always naturally served the defendants to lie.  So when it came down only to policemen’s word against defendants’, it was the officers’ word that was summarily given credence.

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  17. Skyler Coolidge
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    If you live in a state that allows speed traps, or sobriety check points then you need to put some pressure on your state legislature to abolish them. Oregon as woke as it might be does not allow those things.

    As far as anecdotal stories about encounters with police officers go, I don’t comment on them. I have no idea if I’m getting the full story. I didn’t arrest people based upon hearsay, or an anecdotal story.

    Training whether for police work or any other profession does not instill virtue. Prisons, military stockades, or brigs are populated by individuals that have diplomas, whether it is college, high school, or completing basic training.

    Don’t like red light cameras, radar vans, neither do I. Don’t like police officers having access to AR-15’s then give up your AR-15. The only reason they have them is because you do.

    Police officers don’t write laws, they are legislated by elected officials. I’ll add my own generalizations. The vast majority of legislators are lawyers, and they write laws that benefit other lawyers. Judges that appear on the ballot are lawyers whose practice is failing. The Bar Association gets them on the ballot to give them a helping hand.

    And the judges rule more harshly on those without lawyers representing them so that lawyers can make a living, too.

    I’ve not seen this to be true, in fact where I have practiced in civil law it’s more the opposite.

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  18. MichaelSilver Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    What is police jargon for pulling someone over for no good reason other than “Let’s stop someone in the hopes we can find something on our fishing expedition?”

    Or, is there one for “A no knock warrant so we can can take a high risk assult in the hopes we can get more evidence than we currently have”

    Or “Lie to the suspect”

    Are there code names for those?

     

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  19. MichaelSilver Coolidge
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    Yes. Mar a Lago

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