What Books Should Be Made Into Movies?

 

At the suggestion of @robtgilsdorf I am moving this from the Ricochet Film Society group to the main feed to see if more people are interested.

I was reading a post about the best western films since 2000 and it got me to thinking, as I was writing my response promoting Elmer Kelton, that there are a ton of great books that need to be made into amazing movies.

For example, it would be amazing if Robert Heinlein’s Starship Troopers was made into a movie that actually bore a passing resemblance to his work. I would love to see The Moon is a Harsh Mistress as a movie as well. I heard it was a project that would be called Uprising, Brian Singer was associated with it, and I am not sure how I feel about that.

I would love to see The Dragonriders of Pern made into a film. I doubt that it would survive contact with Hollywood though and the perceived misogyny would make them want to change it entirely. I doubt they could stomach the all-male dragonrider corps, though they might very much like the homosexual nature of the draconic matings that ensues.

I would also like to see John Ringo’s Legacy of the Aldenata books made into a series of films, at least the first four would be awesome.

What are your thoughts?

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  1. David C. Broussard Coolidge
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    The Pathfinder RPG module Crimson Throne would be great. It is filled with black from Varissia and Shoan-ti tribes based on Native-Americans and has murder and sex and swords and all that fun stuff.

    I want to run the Reign of Winter path, French Zombies in Russia in WWI…whats not to love.

    Wrath of The Righteous would make a good animated series, not as sure about live action, but loved the story. I also liked the story in Council of Thieves. 

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  2. David C. Broussard Coolidge
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    Django (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Judge Mental (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Yudansha (View Comment):

    I would love to see the Expeditionary Force books by Craig Alanson made into a series. It’s great light reading and highlights the greatness of humanity/America. The Main Character is a US Army sargent, who Forest Gumps his way into capturing and commanding an alien starship, and performs brilliantly in that role with the help of an ancient Edler Race artificial intelligence.

     

    Pretty funny and a lot of fun.

    Not in the same Forrest Gump way, but that sounds similar to the beginning of the Perry Rhodan series.

    Or The High Crusade by Poul Anderson. Medieval knights against aliens. Knights win, move into the ship and head off to the alien world to conquer it.

    Brain Wave might make a good movie/mini-series.

    Maybe. How about Tau Zero?

    I never read that one, but the ending as described at wikipedia reminds me of Cities In Flight by James Blish. That story had a chilling line about preferring death to the survival possibilities they faced. I don’t believe that Blish’s storyline could be done in a single movie, but Surface Tension certainly could be.

    Surface Tension is a great short story and would be a cool twist ending when the protagonists find out they are genetically engineered and super small. 

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  3. DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf Member
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    The Pathfinder RPG module Crimson Throne would be great. It is filled with black from Varissia and Shoan-ti tribes based on Native-Americans and has murder and sex and swords and all that fun stuff.

    If you enjoy audio dramas (as I do) 18 episodes were made. Looks like the final six were the Crimson Throne storyline. I have all of these, actually, but I’ve only listened to the first three episodes so far.

    https://www.bigfinish.com/ranges/v/pathfinder

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  4. Mad Gerald Coolidge
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    I would also nominate anything by Desmond Bagley.

    Some of his stories were made into movies, some not so good. 

    My favorite Bagley novel, The Golden Keel, has never been filmed.

     

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  5. David C. Broussard Coolidge
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    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):

    I am Jack’s Mexican identity (View Comment):

    Saberhagen’s Berserker series…would each make very good TV series. I know the post is about movies, but you’d need to make 9 or 10 movies to cover all of the books in each series, and no one’s got time for that.

    What’s more, the basic premise could be used as the basis for many more stories. And as a matter of fact, many writers have written their own stories set in that universe, all with varying styles and points of view.

    Perhaps “basic premise which can be mined for ideas” would be a good starting point for seeking out stories that might transfer well to the screen.

    One could do the Bob verse as well. 

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  6. Stad Coolidge
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    Django (View Comment):

    Reaching back to cyberpunk days, Neuromancer?

    I’m afraid The Matrix is as close as we’ll get . . .

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  7. Caryn Thatcher
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    Njorl’s Saga

    This: 

     

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  8. I am Jack's Mexican identity Inactive
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    Mad Gerald (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    The whole point of the story is that ad agencies are selling the idea of Venus colonization to the overpopulated masses even though Venus is almost uninhabitable.

    I nominate The Marching Morons.

    Wikipedia: The story follows John Barlow, who was put into suspended animation by a freak accident involving a dental drill and anesthesia. Barlow is revived hundreds of years in the future. The world seems mad to Barlow until he discovers the ‘Problem of Population’: due to a combination of intelligent people not having children and excessive breeding by less intelligent people and coupled with the development of more sophisticated machinery that makes it less important to possess intelligence in one’s working life, the world is full of morons, with the exception of an elite few who work slavishly to keep order. Barlow, who was a shrewd real estate con man in his day, has a solution to sell to the elite, in exchange for being made World Dictator.

    Apparently the author, Cyril M. Kornbluth, collaborated with Pohl.

    I’d buy that for a quarter!

    Edit: The protagonist devises a very cynical solution to overpopulation, and becomes an unintentional participant.

    That’s another of my dad’s favorite stories.

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  9. kedavis Coolidge
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    Of course, a movie version of “When Worlds Collide” has already been made, but I would like to see maybe a remake of that, along with the sequel “After Worlds Collide.”

    Another good possibility from Philip Wylie would be “The End Of The Dream.”

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  10. aardo vozz Member
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    Mad Gerald (View Comment):

    Charlotte (View Comment):

    aardo vozz (View Comment):

    My first nomination: The Oxford Unabridged Dictionary .😎😎😎

    Well, sort of.

    Great story. I waited years for the DVD to become available, and I wasn’t disappointed. Only disappointed that it wasn’t available in Bluray for even longer.

    The best part is that it is unabridged. You don’t have to worry about a director’s cut coming out later.

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  11. kedavis Coolidge
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    Mad Gerald (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    The whole point of the story is that ad agencies are selling the idea of Venus colonization to the overpopulated masses even though Venus is almost uninhabitable.

    I nominate The Marching Morons.

    Wikipedia: The story follows John Barlow, who was put into suspended animation by a freak accident involving a dental drill and anesthesia. Barlow is revived hundreds of years in the future. The world seems mad to Barlow until he discovers the ‘Problem of Population’: due to a combination of intelligent people not having children and excessive breeding by less intelligent people and coupled with the development of more sophisticated machinery that makes it less important to possess intelligence in one’s working life, the world is full of morons, with the exception of an elite few who work slavishly to keep order. Barlow, who was a shrewd real estate con man in his day, has a solution to sell to the elite, in exchange for being made World Dictator.

    Apparently the author, Cyril M. Kornbluth, collaborated with Pohl.

    I’d buy that for a quarter!

    Edit: The protagonist devises a very cynical solution to overpopulation, and becomes an unintentional participant.

    That’s another story that can be an entertaining read – or a “fun romp” in the case of a movie – but doesn’t hold up to any closer inspection.  It simply would not be possible to ship enough people to Venus to make a difference to world population.  At present, you would have to ship out 83 million people per year – almost a quarter-million per DAY – just to stay even.

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  12. Miffed White Male Member
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    One Minute After, about the aftermath of an EMP attack.  

    but stick with the first novel in the series, not the third where it turns into a government conspiracy. 

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  13. WilliamDean Coolidge
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    Snow Crash and The Diamond Age, both by Neal Stephenson, could be made with today’s technology

    Also, The Illuminatus! Trilogy of books could make for some weird entertainment.

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  14. GlennAmurgis Coolidge
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    Brad Thor’s novels – It would make a great series

     

     

     

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  15. DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf Member
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    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):

    Brad Thor’s novels – It would make a great series

     

    Is he still a ridiculous NeverTrumper, or did he wise up?

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  16. GlennAmurgis Coolidge
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    This book would make a great TV Series

     

    Tinseltown: Murder, Morphine, and Madness at the Dawn of Hollywood by William J. Mann | Goodreads

    Lots of interesting characters very interesting time  

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  17. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    Charlotte (View Comment):

    aardo vozz (View Comment):

    My first nomination: The Oxford Unabridged Dictionary .😎😎😎

    Well, sort of.

    Only if it is an animated comedy.  

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  18. TBA Coolidge
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    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    This conversation got me to read “At The Mountains of Madness” again, and boy is it good. I still think so much of Lovecraft’s works takes place inside his character’s minds that it’s almost impossible to put on the screen.

    Stephen Kind wrote an essay on horror that categorized perhaps seven kinds, one of which had to do with dread, and that is what Lovecraft excels in. 

    And what movie audiences aren’t much into. 

    Also, Lovecraft’s stuff can easily tip over into camp, and low-budget productions have a hard time avoiding that no matter how much latex they throw at something. 

    Of note: I didn’t like the LotR movie balrog. It was too ‘formed’ for what is, at root, an angelic (ex-) being. Which is a matter of taste of course. Lovecraft’s monsters are supposed to be mind-breaking, and that is a CGI challenge that would be both hard to meet, and easy to duplicate in lesser films afterwards. 

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  19. TBA Coolidge
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    How about An Inconvenient Truth done as  a comedy? 

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  20. Caryn Thatcher
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    TBA (View Comment):

    How about An Inconvenient Truth done as a comedy?

    Isn’t it?

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  21. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    TBA (View Comment):

    How about An Inconvenient Truth done as a comedy?

    Musical comedy.  

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  22. TBA Coolidge
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    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    How about An Inconvenient Truth done as a comedy?

    Musical comedy.

    Hockey sticks dancing to “Hide the Decline.”

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  23. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    TBA (View Comment):

    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    How about An Inconvenient Truth done as a comedy?

    Musical comedy.

    Hockey sticks dancing to “Hide the Decline.”

    10 more songs and we have a musical! 

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  24. TBA Coolidge
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    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    How about An Inconvenient Truth done as a comedy?

    Musical comedy.

    Hockey sticks dancing to “Hide the Decline.”

    10 more songs and we have a musical!

    Disco version of whatever music An Inconvenient Truth has? 

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  25. Taras Coolidge
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    I am Jack's Mexican identity (View Comment):

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    kedavis (View Comment):

    I am Jack’s Mexican identity (View Comment):

    My dad always thought The Space Merchants by Pohl and Kornbluth would make a good film.

    You’d have to change the setting (it takes place primarily on Venus, which we now know is not in any way habitable) but the plot still holds up. I read it about a decade ago along with the sequel, The Merchants’ War, written by Pohl after Kornbluth died.

    I’d go with the Gateway stories myself.

    I like them, too, but there’s approximately a billion of them, and you’d have people arguing about when to start them and what books to make into movies.

    Space Merchants isn’t a franchise. Just a nice, one-off film.

    I don’t think much (possibly any) of Frederik Pohl’s The Space Merchants (1952) actually takes place on Venus. The whole point of the story is that ad agencies are selling the idea of Venus colonization to the overpopulated masses even though Venus is almost uninhabitable.

    Pohl was a leftist, once a leader of the Young Communist League, who didn’t like the direction of American society in the 1950s.

    Yeah, I read The Merchants’ War basically right after, and that does have a lot set on Venus because the colony has actually become tenable. It’s not as good a book.

    Wikipedia quotes Dave Langford:  “a completely unnecessary book.”  Pohl might have responded that it was necessary to the Pohl family budget.

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  26. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    After America by Mark Steyn …

    This is a non fiction book that describes the events of a US Dollar collapse. I would like to have the events outlined in the book used to construct a world for fictional characters from a major city (say NYC) to struggle against as the city, state and systems collapse around them….

    Perhaps after each episode there could be a round table discussion about the events of the episode with Mark Steyn, Doug Casey, Peter Schiff and others who’ll talk it over… I wouldnt want this to discussion to be political – there is plenty of blame to go around – just a discussion of the events of each episode and how it may play out in real life…

    I am thinking this could be a modern short series with 10 1 hour episodes in a season – plus an hour for the after episode discussion. (I envision a format like had developed for Walking Dead and Breaking Bad) Just a 1/2 hour is too short to have any real interesting conversation on TV – or perhaps this could be done as a podcast that is released after each episode.

    Apocalyptic fiction usually starts after the disaster – there often isnt examination of the disaster as it unfolds – it also helps that this would be largely a financial disaster and plays out over weeks or months.

    It could be something really different for TV…

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  27. kedavis Coolidge
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    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    After America by Mark Steyn …

    This is a non fiction book that describes the events of a US Dollar collapse. I would like to have the events outlined in the book used to construct a world for fictional characters from a major city (say NYC) to struggle against as the city, state and systems collapse around them….

    Perhaps after each episode there could be a round table discussion about the events of the episode with Mark Steyn, Doug Casey, Peter Schiff and others who’ll talk it over… I wouldnt want this to discussion to be political – there is plenty of blame to go around – just a discussion of the events of each episode and how it may play out in real life…

    I am thinking this could be a modern short series with 10 1 hour episodes in a season – plus an hour for the after episode discussion. (I envision a format like had developed for Walking Dead and Breaking Bad) Just a 1/2 hour is too short to have any real interesting conversation on TV – or perhaps this could be done as a podcast that is released after each episode.

    Apocalyptic fiction usually starts after the disaster – there often isnt examination of the disaster as it unfolds – it also helps that this would be largely a financial disaster and plays out over weeks or months.

    It could be something really different for TV…

    I suspect you’d have a problem with people not believing things could ever get as bad as portrayed.

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  28. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    After America by Mark Steyn …

    This is a non fiction book that describes the events of a US Dollar collapse. I would like to have the events outlined in the book used to construct a world for fictional characters from a major city (say NYC) to struggle against as the city, state and systems collapse around them….

    Perhaps after each episode there could be a round table discussion about the events of the episode with Mark Steyn, Doug Casey, Peter Schiff and others who’ll talk it over… I wouldnt want this to discussion to be political – there is plenty of blame to go around – just a discussion of the events of each episode and how it may play out in real life…

    I am thinking this could be a modern short series with 10 1 hour episodes in a season – plus an hour for the after episode discussion. (I envision a format like had developed for Walking Dead and Breaking Bad) Just a 1/2 hour is too short to have any real interesting conversation on TV – or perhaps this could be done as a podcast that is released after each episode.

    Apocalyptic fiction usually starts after the disaster – there often isnt examination of the disaster as it unfolds – it also helps that this would be largely a financial disaster and plays out over weeks or months.

    It could be something really different for TV…

    I suspect you’d have a problem with people not believing things could ever get as bad as portrayed.

    I feel that you have to hurry this series into production – viewers could just look out the window and see it unfold for free.

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  29. Taras Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    Hartmann von Aue (View Comment):

    I’ll go with the prevailing opinions here and express my desire to see film or in most cases mini-series versions of The Dresden Files, the MHI books, and the first two Ringworld books. Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion would be terrific mini-series with a high enough budget. The Hammer’s Slammer’s books would be great fodder for film or TV as well. Footfall and Lucifer’s Hammer recommend themselves immediately for the “disaster with a cast of thousands” genre. And for medieval material that has never been done or never done well, there’s Iwein, Erec et Enid, Parzival, Njal’s Saga, Egil’s Saga, Eyrbyggja Saga, and the list could go on.

    I admire Slammers, but it has a written-by-military-for-military quality that would quickly be mistranslated in film/mini-series.

    @ hartmannvonaue — The North Malden Icelandic Saga Society’s controversial adaptation of Njorl’s Saga was broadcast by Monty Python in the early 1970s.

    I thought of that too. Sadly, couldn’t find any good youtubes of it.

    The screenplay is available, however:

    https://montycasinos.com/montypython/scripts/icelandic.php.html

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  30. kedavis Coolidge
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    Taras (View Comment):

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    Taras (View Comment):

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    Hartmann von Aue (View Comment):

    I’ll go with the prevailing opinions here and express my desire to see film or in most cases mini-series versions of The Dresden Files, the MHI books, and the first two Ringworld books. Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion would be terrific mini-series with a high enough budget. The Hammer’s Slammer’s books would be great fodder for film or TV as well. Footfall and Lucifer’s Hammer recommend themselves immediately for the “disaster with a cast of thousands” genre. And for medieval material that has never been done or never done well, there’s Iwein, Erec et Enid, Parzival, Njal’s Saga, Egil’s Saga, Eyrbyggja Saga, and the list could go on.

    I admire Slammers, but it has a written-by-military-for-military quality that would quickly be mistranslated in film/mini-series.

    @ hartmannvonaue — The North Malden Icelandic Saga Society’s controversial adaptation of Njorl’s Saga was broadcast by Monty Python in the early 1970s.

    I thought of that too. Sadly, couldn’t find any good youtubes of it.

    The screenplay is available, however:

    https://montycasinos.com/montypython/scripts/icelandic.php.html

    Caryn found it on dailymotion.

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