What Books Should Be Made Into Movies?

 

At the suggestion of @robtgilsdorf I am moving this from the Ricochet Film Society group to the main feed to see if more people are interested.

I was reading a post about the best western films since 2000 and it got me to thinking, as I was writing my response promoting Elmer Kelton, that there are a ton of great books that need to be made into amazing movies.

For example, it would be amazing if Robert Heinlein’s Starship Troopers was made into a movie that actually bore a passing resemblance to his work. I would love to see The Moon is a Harsh Mistress as a movie as well. I heard it was a project that would be called Uprising, Brian Singer was associated with it, and I am not sure how I feel about that.

I would love to see The Dragonriders of Pern made into a film. I doubt that it would survive contact with Hollywood though and the perceived misogyny would make them want to change it entirely. I doubt they could stomach the all-male dragonrider corps, though they might very much like the homosexual nature of the draconic matings that ensues.

I would also like to see John Ringo’s Legacy of the Aldenata books made into a series of films, at least the first four would be awesome.

What are your thoughts?

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  1. Miffed White Male Member
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    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    I’ll bet someone could make a decent movie out of the novel “Gone With The Wind”.

    That’s just crazy talk!

    Yeah, I know.  Next someone will suggest something stupid like “The Godfather”.  

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  2. Charlotte Member
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    I’ll bet someone could make a decent movie out of the novel “Gone With The Wind”.

    Not in 2022, they couldn’t.

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  3. Percival Thatcher
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    Seawriter (View Comment):

    If I may suggest one of my own books:

    It would be a great action-adventure film and you could do a lot of the filming aboard USS Constitution for authenticity. (Using Constitution to substitute for Philadelphia, and also to film the parts that took place aboard Constitution.)

    Nice title! Taken from what that British swell said about the incident: “the most bold and daring act of its age.”

    Horatio Nelson.

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  4. Taras Coolidge
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    I’ll bet someone could make a decent movie out of the novel “Gone With The Wind”.

    I shudder to think what a modern adaptation would look like.

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  5. Django Member
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    I’ll bet someone could make a decent movie out of the novel “Gone With The Wind”.

    Worth a try maybe, but what actor today could play a convincing Rhett Butler? 

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  6. Seawriter Contributor
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    Django (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    I’ll bet someone could make a decent movie out of the novel “Gone With The Wind”.

    Worth a try maybe, but what actor today could play a convincing Rhett Butler?

    Kermit the Frog, with Miss Piggy as Scarlett O’Hare.

    Oops, wrong thread. That’s this week’s Movie Fight Club.

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  7. Taras Coolidge
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    Django (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    I’ll bet someone could make a decent movie out of the novel “Gone With The Wind”.

    Worth a try maybe, but what actor today could play a convincing Rhett Butler?

    For a version to be released in, say, 2025, John David Washington would be ideal.

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  8. LC Member
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    Hartmann von Aue (View Comment):

    I’ll go with the prevailing opinions here and express my desire to see film or in most cases mini-series versions of The Dresden Files, the MHI books, and the first two Ringworld books. Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion would be terrific mini-series with a high enough budget. The Hammer’s Slammer’s books would be great fodder for film or TV as well. Footfall and Lucifer’s Hammer recommend themselves immediately for the “disaster with a cast of thousands” genre. And for medieval material that has never been done or never done well, there’s Iwein, Erec et Enid, Parzival, Njal’s Saga, Egil’s Saga, Eyrbyggja Saga, and the list could go on.

    I think we’ll get Hyperion eventually. The studio/people who currently have the rights to it have the money and the name recognition. 

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Dresden Files gets redone in the future. The book series has gotten way more successful over time, especially since the TV adaptation aired.   

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  9. TBA Coolidge
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    wonderful flight to the mushroom planet

    Go for it! 

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  10. TBA Coolidge
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    Taras (View Comment):

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    kedavis (View Comment):

    I never read that one, but the ending as described at wikipedia reminds me of Cities In Flight by James Blish. That story had a chilling line about preferring death to the survival possibilities they faced. I don’t believe that Blish’s storyline could be done in a single movie, but Surface Tension certainly could be.

    Even some “hard” science fiction goes beyond credibility/credulity to me. I never read the “Cities” stories, something about them just smelled like a waste of time to me. Cities flying around the galaxy to “find work?” wtf? From who, aliens? Why? etc. I guess I can somewhat understand someone writing such stories in a time much closer to the Great Depression, but still…

    . . ;

    That doesn’t sound like an accurate description. This is from wikipedia and matches more-or-less my vague recollection from almost 50 years ago.

    They Shall Have Stars (1956) (also published under the title Year 2018!), incorporating the stories “Bridge” and “At Death’s End”,[3] is set in the then near future (the book begins in 2013). In this future, the Soviet Union still exists and the Cold War is still ongoing. As a result, Western civil liberties have been eroded more and more, until society eventually resembles the Soviet model. Alaska’s Senator Bliss Wagoner, head of the Joint Congressional Committee on Space Flight, is determined to do something about it.

    Scientific research has stagnated, mainly because knowledge has become restricted. On the advice of scientist Dr. Corsi, Wagoner concentrates his attention on fringe science theories. One project he has funded is the building of a “bridge” made of Ice IV on the surface of Jupiter. This leads to one of two major discoveries which make interstellar space travel feasible: gravity manipulation (nicknamed the “spindizzy“), which leads to both a faster-than-light travel and effective shielding. Another project yields an “anti-agathic” drug, which stops aging. Wagoner is eventually convicted of treason by an oppressive regime, but not before he has sent out expeditions (in a later book, it is revealed that they succeed in establishing thriving colonies). Politically, the book clearly expresses a strong opposition to McCarthyism, at its peak during the time of writing. The main antagonist is Francis X. MacHinery, hereditary Director of the FBI, which has become a de facto secret police agency. In the final chapter he is heard to say “Bliss Wagoner is dead”, with the narrative noting that “as usual, he was wrong”, as Wagoner’s legacy will endure.

    Robert Heinlein debunks the popular image of Sen. Joe McCarthy spread by his leftist opponents in his travel memoir, Tramp Royale.

    McCarthy, like Trump, was a blowhard jerk who was correct. Both were thoroughly Cassandraed by the press. 

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  11. Django Member
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    Taras (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    I’ll bet someone could make a decent movie out of the novel “Gone With The Wind”.

    Worth a try maybe, but what actor today could play a convincing Rhett Butler?

    For a version to be released in, say, 2025, John David Washington would be ideal.

    I didn’t recognize the name, so I did a duckduckgo search . . . and laughed out loud. Yeah, I can see Hollywood trying that. 

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  12. The Scarecrow Thatcher
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    Django (View Comment):

    Reaching back to cyberpunk days, Neuromancer?

    NO! Please god no. My favorite book, thrown into the Hollywood meat grinder? God, they would all destroy it.

    A dark, quiet, sardonically heroic anime, maybe. 

    But probably just leave yer hands off it.

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  13. Django Member
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    The Scarecrow (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Reaching back to cyberpunk days, Neuromancer?

    NO! Please god no. My favorite book, thrown into the Hollywood meat grinder? God, they would all destroy it.

    A dark, quiet, sardonically heroic anime, maybe.

    But probably just leave yer hands off it.

    I know the feeling. Forty or so years ago G. R. R. Martin wrote Nightflyers. Immediately upon reading it, I thought “what a great movie it would be.” Six or seven years later I saw the movie at the old Sunnyvale Town Center theatre, and it was a complete waste of time and money. The crowd agreed. 

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  14. The Scarecrow Thatcher
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    Some books are written kind of actually to be made into a movie. Michael Crichton was really good at this. The books were good, and most of them make pretty damn good movies.

    but this is rare. You forget, in this thread, that as you think about books that you love so much, what the characteristics of moviemaking will do to them. Almost never will the heart, the thing you love so much about the book, ever come out in the movie. Think about atlas shrugged. Good God. 

    that having been said, the best example of books I’ve read recently that just cry out to be made into movies are the two series currently going by Peter Clines.

    The X series, Ex-Heroes, Ex-Communication, etc., are thoroughly entertaining and addictive, and would be able to transition to a movie version that could be the next thing. Who knew that a superhero/zombie series could be so original and interesting?

    The other series, starting with 14, then The Fold, then a few more, all seem to be stand-alone books. Then you get to the end and you realize that we are in the same world with the same looming catastrophe, and that a team is being put together. This also brings in Tesla, Lovecraft, and others in a very immediate way. So much fun.

    Plus, if Clines got a movie deal, it might inspire him to write some more Ex novels! C’mon dude!

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  15. Henry Castaigne Member
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    The Scarecrow (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Reaching back to cyberpunk days, Neuromancer?

    NO! Please god no. My favorite book, thrown into the Hollywood meat grinder? God, they would all destroy it.

    A dark, quiet, sardonically heroic anime, maybe.

    But probably just leave yer hands off it.

    What books would make a great anime? 

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  16. Miffed White Male Member
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    Taras (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    I’ll bet someone could make a decent movie out of the novel “Gone With The Wind”.

    Worth a try maybe, but what actor today could play a convincing Rhett Butler?

    For a version to be released in, say, 2025, John David Washington would be ideal.

    I was gonna say Denzel Washington. 

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  17. Miffed White Male Member
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    TBA (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    wonderful flight to the mushroom planet

    Go for it!

    Re-read it with my kids when they were little.  It was awful. 

    spave ship under the Apple tree was still fun though.  

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  18. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):

    Ekosj (View Comment):

    Id love to see something from Larry Niven … Ringworld or Protector or The Mote in God’s Eye

    Novels tend to be very difficult to adapt to the screen, because of both length and complexity. The ideal story length for adaptation is the short story or the novella.

    I agree with that.

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  19. TBA Coolidge
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    The Scarecrow (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Reaching back to cyberpunk days, Neuromancer?

    NO! Please god no. My favorite book, thrown into the Hollywood meat grinder? God, they would all destroy it.

    A dark, quiet, sardonically heroic anime, maybe.

    But probably just leave yer hands off it.

    Tommy Wiseau is gonna be super disappointed. 

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  20. Percival Thatcher
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    I would love to see the Expeditionary Force books by Craig Alanson made into a series. It’s great light reading and highlights the greatness of humanity/America. The Main Character is a US Army sargent, who Forest Gumps his way into capturing and commanding an alien starship, and performs brilliantly in that role with the help of an ancient Edler Race artificial intelligence.

     

    Pretty funny and a lot of fun.

    Not in the same Forrest Gump way, but that sounds similar to the beginning of the Perry Rhodan series.

    Or The High Crusade by Poul Anderson. Medieval knights against aliens. Knights win, move into the ship and head off to the alien world to conquer it.

    I never read that one – never even heard of it, as far as I remember – and that’s probably a good thing.

    It’s pretty good.

    I can’t push my suspension of disbelief that far any more. If I ever could.

    It’s all in the setup.

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  21. Judge Mental Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Judge Mental (View Comment):

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    Yudansha (View Comment):

    I would love to see the Expeditionary Force books by Craig Alanson made into a series. It’s great light reading and highlights the greatness of humanity/America. The Main Character is a US Army sargent, who Forest Gumps his way into capturing and commanding an alien starship, and performs brilliantly in that role with the help of an ancient Edler Race artificial intelligence.

     

    Pretty funny and a lot of fun.

    Not in the same Forrest Gump way, but that sounds similar to the beginning of the Perry Rhodan series.

    Or The High Crusade by Poul Anderson. Medieval knights against aliens. Knights win, move into the ship and head off to the alien world to conquer it.

    I never read that one – never even heard of it, as far as I remember – and that’s probably a good thing.

    It’s pretty good.

    I can’t push my suspension of disbelief that far any more. If I ever could.

    It’s all in the setup.

    It could really work.  Take a group of guys like the ones from The 13th Warrior, make them English, and put them in an over-the-top violent comedy (think the Black Knight in Python levels of violent), with aliens who just aren’t prepared for how unbelievably violent people were in the Middle Ages.

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  22. kedavis Coolidge
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    Judge Mental (View Comment):

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    I would love to see the Expeditionary Force books by Craig Alanson made into a series. It’s great light reading and highlights the greatness of humanity/America. The Main Character is a US Army sargent, who Forest Gumps his way into capturing and commanding an alien starship, and performs brilliantly in that role with the help of an ancient Edler Race artificial intelligence.

     

    Pretty funny and a lot of fun.

    Not in the same Forrest Gump way, but that sounds similar to the beginning of the Perry Rhodan series.

    Or The High Crusade by Poul Anderson. Medieval knights against aliens. Knights win, move into the ship and head off to the alien world to conquer it.

    I never read that one – never even heard of it, as far as I remember – and that’s probably a good thing.

    It’s pretty good.

    I can’t push my suspension of disbelief that far any more. If I ever could.

    It’s all in the setup.

    It could really work. Take a group of guys like the ones from The 13th Warrior, make them English, and put them in an over-the-top violent comedy (think the Black Knight in Python levels of violent), with aliens who just aren’t prepared for how unbelievably violent people were in the Middle Ages.

    And being so violent, they obviously would quickly grasp – if they hadn’t already – space physics and etc.

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  23. Judge Mental Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    I would love to see the Expeditionary Force books by Craig Alanson made into a series. It’s great light reading and highlights the greatness of humanity/America. The Main Character is a US Army sargent, who Forest Gumps his way into capturing and commanding an alien starship, and performs brilliantly in that role with the help of an ancient Edler Race artificial intelligence.

     

    Pretty funny and a lot of fun.

    Not in the same Forrest Gump way, but that sounds similar to the beginning of the Perry Rhodan series.

    Or The High Crusade by Poul Anderson. Medieval knights against aliens. Knights win, move into the ship and head off to the alien world to conquer it.

    I never read that one – never even heard of it, as far as I remember – and that’s probably a good thing.

    It’s pretty good.

    I can’t push my suspension of disbelief that far any more. If I ever could.

    It’s all in the setup.

    It could really work. Take a group of guys like the ones from The 13th Warrior, make them English, and put them in an over-the-top violent comedy (think the Black Knight in Python levels of violent), with aliens who just aren’t prepared for how unbelievably violent people were in the Middle Ages.

    And being so violent, they obviously would quickly grasp – if they hadn’t already – space physics and etc.

    They don’t learn any tech at all.  They force some captured aliens to fly the ship.  They do bring their own tech with them, meaning the local blacksmith and his forge.

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  24. kedavis Coolidge
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    Judge Mental (View Comment):

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    Yudansha (View Comment):

    I would love to see the Expeditionary Force books by Craig Alanson made into a series. It’s great light reading and highlights the greatness of humanity/America. The Main Character is a US Army sargent, who Forest Gumps his way into capturing and commanding an alien starship, and performs brilliantly in that role with the help of an ancient Edler Race artificial intelligence.

     

    Pretty funny and a lot of fun.

    Not in the same Forrest Gump way, but that sounds similar to the beginning of the Perry Rhodan series.

    Or The High Crusade by Poul Anderson. Medieval knights against aliens. Knights win, move into the ship and head off to the alien world to conquer it.

    I never read that one – never even heard of it, as far as I remember – and that’s probably a good thing.

    It’s pretty good.

    I can’t push my suspension of disbelief that far any more. If I ever could.

    It’s all in the setup.

    It could really work. Take a group of guys like the ones from The 13th Warrior, make them English, and put them in an over-the-top violent comedy (think the Black Knight in Python levels of violent), with aliens who just aren’t prepared for how unbelievably violent people were in the Middle Ages.

    And being so violent, they obviously would quickly grasp – if they hadn’t already – space physics and etc.

    They don’t learn any tech at all. They force some captured aliens to fly the ship. They do bring their own tech with them, meaning the local blacksmith and his forge.

    And when a few dozen or maybe a couple hundred violent guys arrive at the planet inhabited by millions or billions, they’re just unstoppable.

    Naw.  Not even as a comedy, I think.

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  25. Percival Thatcher
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    I would love to see the Expeditionary Force books by Craig Alanson made into a series. It’s great light reading and highlights the greatness of humanity/America. The Main Character is a US Army sargent, who Forest Gumps his way into capturing and commanding an alien starship, and performs brilliantly in that role with the help of an ancient Edler Race artificial intelligence.

     

    Pretty funny and a lot of fun.

    Not in the same Forrest Gump way, but that sounds similar to the beginning of the Perry Rhodan series.

    Or The High Crusade by Poul Anderson. Medieval knights against aliens. Knights win, move into the ship and head off to the alien world to conquer it.

    I never read that one – never even heard of it, as far as I remember – and that’s probably a good thing.

    It’s pretty good.

    I can’t push my suspension of disbelief that far any more. If I ever could.

    It’s all in the setup.

    It could really work. Take a group of guys like the ones from The 13th Warrior, make them English, and put them in an over-the-top violent comedy (think the Black Knight in Python levels of violent), with aliens who just aren’t prepared for how unbelievably violent people were in the Middle Ages.

    Aliens who are so far removed from hand-to-hand combat that they have no defenses once the enemy closes to melee range.

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  26. Percival Thatcher
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    I would love to see the Expeditionary Force books by Craig Alanson made into a series. It’s great light reading and highlights the greatness of humanity/America. The Main Character is a US Army sargent, who Forest Gumps his way into capturing and commanding an alien starship, and performs brilliantly in that role with the help of an ancient Edler Race artificial intelligence.

     

    Pretty funny and a lot of fun.

    Not in the same Forrest Gump way, but that sounds similar to the beginning of the Perry Rhodan series.

    Or The High Crusade by Poul Anderson. Medieval knights against aliens. Knights win, move into the ship and head off to the alien world to conquer it.

    I never read that one – never even heard of it, as far as I remember – and that’s probably a good thing.

    It’s pretty good.

    I can’t push my suspension of disbelief that far any more. If I ever could.

    It’s all in the setup.

    It could really work. Take a group of guys like the ones from The 13th Warrior, make them English, and put them in an over-the-top violent comedy (think the Black Knight in Python levels of violent), with aliens who just aren’t prepared for how unbelievably violent people were in the Middle Ages.

    And being so violent, they obviously would quickly grasp – if they hadn’t already – space physics and etc.

    They take prisoners.

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  27. Tex929rr Coolidge
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    This conversation got me to read “At The Mountains of Madness” again, and boy is it good.  I still think so much of Lovecraft’s works takes place inside his character’s minds that it’s almost impossible to put on the screen.  

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  28. Tex929rr Coolidge
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    Yudansha (View Comment):

    I would love to see the Expeditionary Force books by Craig Alanson made into a series. It’s great light reading and highlights the greatness of humanity/America. The Main Character is a US Army sargent, who Forest Gumps his way into capturing and commanding an alien starship, and performs brilliantly in that role with the help of an ancient Edler Race artificial intelligence.

     

    Pretty funny and a lot of fun.

    Ryan Reynolds may be the only actor alive who could play Skippy.

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  29. Mad Gerald Coolidge
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    Charlotte (View Comment):

    aardo vozz (View Comment):

    My first nomination: The Oxford Unabridged Dictionary .😎😎😎

    Well, sort of.

    Great story.  I waited years for the DVD to become available, and I wasn’t disappointed.  Only disappointed that it wasn’t available in Bluray for even longer.

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  30. Mad Gerald Coolidge
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    Taras (View Comment):
    The whole point of the story is that ad agencies are selling the idea of Venus colonization to the overpopulated masses even though Venus is almost uninhabitable.

    I nominate The Marching Morons.

    Wikipedia: The story follows John Barlow, who was put into suspended animation by a freak accident involving a dental drill and anesthesia. Barlow is revived hundreds of years in the future. The world seems mad to Barlow until he discovers the ‘Problem of Population’: due to a combination of intelligent people not having children and excessive breeding by less intelligent people and coupled with the development of more sophisticated machinery that makes it less important to possess intelligence in one’s working life, the world is full of morons, with the exception of an elite few who work slavishly to keep order. Barlow, who was a shrewd real estate con man in his day, has a solution to sell to the elite, in exchange for being made World Dictator.

    Apparently the author, Cyril M. Kornbluth, collaborated with Pohl.

    I’d buy that for a quarter!

    Edit:  The protagonist devises a very cynical solution to overpopulation, and becomes an unintentional participant.

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