Retribution: For the Children of Telford

 

“Though the mills of God grind slowly, yet they grind exceeding small;
Though with patience He stands waiting, with exactness grinds He all.” — H.W. Longfellow, Retribution

I’ve told, many times here before, of a family friend, a policewoman in the “West Mercia Constabulary” a division of the British police force covering my home counties of Worcestershire, Herefordshire, and Shropshire. (Many years ago, what passed for wokesters at the time decided that “West Mercia” (an ancient, perhaps mythical Arthurian territorial designation) was a bridge too far, and changed it to the “[Simplified Something] Constabulary.” Then, they decided that the real offense was caused by the word “Constabulary,” so they reverted the first part, changing the whole to “West Mercia Police,” and there it stands to this day.)

Anyhoo, this family friend worked in the data gathering and tracking section of the force, and as such, among other things she was responsible for tallying up, and following up on, the matters of child sexual abuse (CSA), and child sexual exploitation (CSE) in the region.

It broke her. Not the ugly events, although they were bad enough. But the police reaction to them. She left the force. In fact, she left the country.

I remember another friend telling me–decades ago now–that the problem was endemic to the region, that it went so much further than anyone knew, and that nothing was being done about it for fear of offending certain special interest groups.

And yet.

A unlikely and verray parfit gentil knyght has emerged. And he seems to have found his lady.

Mark Steyn, host of his very own GBNews show (the UK’s answer to Tucker, I think), has been relentless on this matter for months. Rotherham. Rochedale. And now, Telford. (Just as he has been after the UK government to make good on its promises to the “vaccine-injured.” With considerable success.)

Although the government-commissioned Telford (Shropshire) investigation wasn’t of Steyn’s doing, its findings today support his reporting and his interviews with Samantha Smith, a brave young woman who’s told her story on GBNews. (48 hours after going on Steyn’s show last week, the West Mercia Police were banging on her front door and demanding to know what she knew, and telling her they had a “duty” to follow up because she’d been talking about them on television. This after years of knowing about her case and doing almost nothing.)

Today, the government report on the Telford situation was released, and it’s horrific. Per The Telegraph:

More than a thousand girls were sexually abused by gangs of Asian men in Telford while police dropped cases like a “hot potato” for fear of inflaming racial tensions, a damning report has found.

An investigation – commissioned in 2018 – accused those whose job it was to protect children of repeatedly “turning a blind eye” and “ignoring obvious signs of child sexual exploitation”.

After “brainwashing them”, they then abused and raped them, issuing death threats if they threatened to expose the abuse.

Witnesses told an inquiry how West Mercia Police had appeared “frightened to question or challenge because they didn’t want to have the finger pointed at them, saying they were being racist.

In some cases, the children themselves were blamed for the abuse and accused of being prostitutes. [Note: “white slags” seems to be the term of art.]

The lack of a response by the authorities only emboldened the perpetrators to continue the abuse, the report concluded.

Today, Samantha Smith, survivor, is a 20-year-old law student. And she’s been discovered by The Telegraph:

Waiving her anonymity, the 20-year-old law student told The Telegraph: “I was sexually abused by multiple men throughout my childhood at different stages and groomed.

“I was five when it started and it carried until I was 14.

I didn’t come forward about my abuse until I was 16 at which point the police at the Child Sexual Exploitation team in West Mercia Police became involved but my case was dismissed and no further action was taken.

“Throughout when I was interviewed about it … I remember being asked whether I consented to sexual activity. Whether it was something I consented to. But I was underage, a child can’t consent no matter how mature an adult believes them to be, they can’t, the burden shouldn’t fall on a child to consent to being abused.

Victims like Lucy Lowe [burned to death by her groomer, the mother of their child (who she bore when she was 14) along with her sister and her mother] who never got a chance to get justice–so it’s all about keeping these stories at the forefront of public consciousness so they cannot be downplayed again, so girls aren’t being turned a blind eye to, so children that are growing up don’t have to suffer in silence.”

Mercifully, Lucy Lowe’s murderer is in jail. (For murder, not for child sex crimes.) Some might consider that “justice,” but apparently Samantha Smith does not.

And I think I agree with her.

PS: Steyn’s competition on weeknights is Piers Morgan, on TalkTV, Rupert Murdoch’s UK venture. Mark is clobbering him. Ricochet, please do your bit.

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  1. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill
    @CarolJoy

    This failure of the police to act in in a manner that most citizens would expect to happen: for the Pakistanis to be taken into custody and questioned, for evidence including testimony of the girls to be taken and recorded, for DNA and other forensic evidence to be taken and held, those activities did not happen.

    This  is not at all because some training manuals inside this city  police HQ’s or that city’s police HQ’s were poorly thought out.

    This is a directive that has been  managed for the past 30 years, going back to plans made by the Ultra Elite in 1992.

    The UN Commission on Migration has stated quite clearly on its web site that some 350 million people are to be offered homes in Western Societies, before the year 2030.

    These are people who according to the mission station are from economically disadvantaged regions, or else they are war refugees, or people driven away from their homelands by climate changes and natural catastrophes. (Events like dams breaking, earthquakes and volcanoes erupting.)

    Back in Spring 2018, I stumbled on a video of a private meeting of 5  men discussing with great glee how the goals of the 2030 agenda for the nations of the EU were being met in a manner far exceeding all expectations. (However the expression “Agenda 2030” was not used, although there were many references to that particular year.)

    The discussions detailed that especially in Germany, already the  white population was being replaced by Muslims, and the change was going much more smoothly than any f these people had believed possible.

    I imagine one of the reasons the transformation could take place so efficiently is that should  any citizens attempt to oppose such a transformation, methods existed to destroy those citizens’ reputations with the charge of “racism.”

    These men were all white. They were all wearing expensive finely tailored suits. As they recounted how quickly Western societies were about to lose their cultures, traditions and values by the year 2025, they were acting as pleased with themselves as corporate salesmen who knew their end of year bonuses would by sky high.

    End Of Part One

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  2. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill
    @CarolJoy

    Part Two

    I had the feeling that the meeting took place somewhere in Europe, possibly Switzerland. The next day I used my browser’s search history to get back to that site and its video, but any links  had disappeared out of my queue. I suspect the problem in finding it is that this had been a private meeting but the website hosting manager had allowed it to be viewed by the public.

    That individual’s mistake was discovered and the video was no longer available to me.

    These were very important affluent people. None of them appeared to be more than 35 years old. As far as the destruction of western societies and values you and I might argue that they too would face, they are of a class of ultra Elites who can ride out any burps in the coming conflagrations on their 8 million dollar yachts in the harbors of places like Tahiti.

    BTW for a further point of reference as to societal changes, that very week, I read a news article that Merkel had banned the centuries old tradition of school classrooms hanging up the crucifix.

     

     

     

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  3. Paul Stinchfield Member
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    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    In this context, “Asian” means Muslim from South Asia, right? We’re not talking about Chinese or Japanese.

    Does anyone have information about the origins of these particular criminals?

    Pakistan. (No surprise.)

    I read news stories about mothers of victims who begged Muslim community leaders (Imams or other religious authorities) to use their influence to end the abuse, but those Austere Religious Scholars refused.

    Also: We should not forget about Afghanistan. And Egypt, too. And remember what happened to Lara Logan in Cairo? Or what happens too often to young Christian girls in Egypt?

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  4. DMak Member
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    @DMak

    Is it simply a case of the authority fearing being labeled racist, or is there something else going on as well? My British friends think Pakistani Muslims have been sexually abusing British girls since the ’70s.

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  5. Marjorie Reynolds Coolidge
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    DMak (View Comment):

    Is it simply a case of the authority fearing being labeled racist, or is there something else going on as well? My British friends think Pakistani Muslims have been sexually abusing British girls since the ’70s.

    The rape gangs are organised criminals. Some of the perpetrators are prominent in the community, I think in the video I shared the victim may have said some were in local government. I could have that wrong it’s been months since I watched it.

    in any case they are able to terrorise whole communities, not just young girls. 

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  6. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill
    @CarolJoy

    As far as my comments #31 and #32, and how much of an upside down world our reality has become, this week in The Netherlands we not only are witnessing a situation in which the government there has been claiming that nitrogen levels must be lowered so they seek to put farmers – food producers – out of business – so they now are invoking a law that will force Dutch citizens to be ousted from their homes to give them to refugees:

    https://twitter.com/KoenSwinkels/status/1547095260727320577

    Tommy Robinson and others in Great Britain have been attempting since the early 2000’s to point out how upside down things are – that Pakistani men can groom British girls to be sex slaves, while police do nothing. That Muslims living in British communities can freely destroy property in what appears to be organized attempts to force British senior citizens from their homes. And the police do nothing.

    But when there is push back from locals who distribute pamphlets pointing out how these things are happening, and when marches to demonstrate against these matters occur, the legit citizens are labelled as being guilty of hate crimes, and demonstrators are brutally  beaten by the British police.

    What is going on in so many places is like a global version of the  Highland Clearances in Scotland on steroids!

     

     

     

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  7. Annefy Member
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Annefy (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):
    In the course of the conversation, the focus of which was the beginning of the disintegration of European civil society, she said, “They are raising a generation of children they can’t stand. They have no control over them. They don’t have family pride in them.”

    Precisely correct.

    It is the reason so many Brits were horrified when we homeschooled. Most of them do not like their children.

    Many of my relatives from Scotland are friends on FB. When Rotherham blew up I posted several times about it.

    I have a rule about not posting about anything political in the UK. I don’t live there, and can only assume I’m not getting accurate info from the news media. Unfortunately, my relatives do not follow the same rule and regularly posted negatively about the States and DJT.

    I finally called out one particularly obnoxious relative; he said it was no different than my “right wing” posts about the abuse scandals in the UK.

    I asked him when being anti-child abuse was a) political and b) right wing. What happened next was text book – he called me racist.

    tangentially, more than one has called out my irresponsibility of having four kids, and I’ve gotten raised eyebrows about our growing list of grandchildren.

    The UK is full of sad, pathetic people.

    I think that your genes are good so it’s OK for you to breed.

    This made me LOL. When my kids were little (and I was probably pregnant), more than once someone (who thought they were being clever) would say: You DO know what causes that, don’t you?

    My response: That’s the problem. If it was doing dishes, or laundry, I’d be okay. Have you SEEN my husband?

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  8. Doug Watt Member
    Doug Watt
    @DougWatt

    Policing in Britain is controlled by the Home Office. In other words, a nationalized police force that does not answer to the concerns of localized crime or the residents of local areas.

    From this link:

    In England and Wales, the Home Secretary answers to Parliament and the public for the provision of an efficient and effective Police Service.

    There are 43 geographic police forces in England and Wales plus the British Transport Police, Civil Nuclear Police and the Ministry of Defence Police.

    The Chief Constable/Commissioner of a force is responsible for delivering policing services. The Office of Chief Constable is the employer of police officers for the purposes of health and safety legislation.

    Outside of London, publicly elected Police and Crime Commissioners (PCCs) are responsible for holding their police force to account and setting the direction of the force. Their responsibilities include the appointment and, if necessary, the dismissal of the chief constable; holding the chief constable to account for the performance of the force’s officers and staff; setting out the force’s strategy and policing priorities; and reporting annually on progress. In London the Mayor’s Office for Policing and Crime (MOPAC) has responsibility for the governance of the Metropolitan Police while the City of London Police continues to be overseen by the City of London Corporation.

    This is something that could happen to the US. DOJ Consent Decrees take control of local police and sheriff’s offices. Your police department and sheriff’s offices no longer answer to you it answers to the Feds.

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  9. Doug Watt Member
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    @DougWatt

    The video that has been released of police officers standing around in the hallway of Robb Elementary School waiting to engage an active shooter has sparked outrage. It should, it’s disgusting and needs to be seen. Do you think that video would have been released if that had been the Capitol Hill Police instead of local law enforcement? I doubt it would and I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for its release.

    This is the same problem that the Home Office tried to bury concerning rampant sexual abuse of the children that is revealed in this post.

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  10. Cassandro Coolidge
    Cassandro
    @Flicker

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Part Two

    I had the feeling that the meeting took place somewhere in Europe, possibly Switzerland. The next day I used my browser’s search history to get back to that site and its video, but any links had disappeared out of my queue. I suspect the problem in finding it is that this had been a private meeting but the website hosting manager had allowed it to be viewed by the public.

    That individual’s mistake was discovered and the video was no longer available to me.

    These were very important affluent people. None of them appeared to be more than 35 years old. As far as the destruction of western societies and values you and I might argue that they too would face, they are of a class of ultra Elites who can ride out any burps in the coming conflagrations on their 8 million dollar yachts in the harbors of places like Tahiti.

    BTW for a further point of reference as to societal changes, that very week, I read a news article that Merkel had banned the centuries old tradition of school classrooms hanging up the crucifix.

    Do you mean the listing in your browser or bookmarks was not there, or that you got a 404 notice?  I’ve noticed that, sometimes, often depending on the topic, web pages that I have saved are no longer listed in my browsers’ bookmarks the next day.  I never knew what happened to them, and couldn’t find the page again, so I was just wondering if this is what happened to you.

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  11. She Member
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    Mark Camp (View Comment):

    I often come across a post that I would “mark as unread” if I could. This is one of those posts.

    I hope I remember to read it tomorrow, or some time when my mind is at its most active, because it’s one of those posts that need careful reading and thinking.

    Note: I am not requesting “mark as unread” from my (fee-for-service) Ricochet providers. I realize that asking for that common (free) function would be unreasonable ;-)

    Does the “bookmark” function still work?  It used to be the thing where a member could “flag” (not in the “FLAG” sense) a “post to read later” (that’s what the “tooltip” (blast from the past) says it does, if you hover over it.

    I’m not quite sure if it still works, or how you get to it if it does.  (Investigating the menu drop-downs under my “profile” doesn’t bring it up.  And I seem to recall some unresolved angst from a few years ago that it might have had an expiration date, or might no longer work at all.  Still, it’s still an option, below each post, although I am not sure how you get to it.  IIRC, “My Bookmarks” is what the link you used to be able to click on was called.  No idea where, or if, it is now. @astroluxe, please advise if it is still extant.)

    My oft-expressed wish–for a site I love and as a person with the credentials to back such an offer up–that I’d be delighted to liaise between members and Ricochet tech support with a view to improving the member experience is still valid.  I had hoped that my expertise in that regard would be valued while I served as a moderator here between November of 2016 and March of 2019 (when I resigned as such).  However, that didn’t pan out.  Still, I live in hope.

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  12. Cassandro Coolidge
    Cassandro
    @Flicker

    She (View Comment):

    Mark Camp (View Comment):

    I often come across a post that I would “mark as unread” if I could. This is one of those posts.

    I hope I remember to read it tomorrow, or some time when my mind is at its most active, because it’s one of those posts that need careful reading and thinking.

    Note: I am not requesting “mark as unread” from my (fee-for-service) Ricochet providers. I realize that asking for that common (free) function would be unreasonable ;-)

    Does the “bookmark” function still work? It used to be the thing where a member could “flag” (not in the “FLAG” sense) a “post to read later” (that’s what the “tooltip” (blast from the past) says it does, if you hover over it.

    I’m not quite sure if it still works, or how you get to it if it does. (Investigating the menu drop-downs under my “profile” doesn’t bring it up. And I seem to recall some unresolved angst from a few years ago that it might have had an expiration date, or might no longer work at all. Still, it’s still an option, below each post, although I am not sure how you get to it. IIRC, “My Bookmarks” is what the link you used to be able to click on was called. No idea where, or if, it is now. @ astroluxe, please advise if it is still extant.)

    My oft-expressed wish–for a site I love and as a person with the credentials to back such an offer up–that I’d be delighted to liaise between members and Ricochet tech support with a view to improving the member experience is still valid. I had hoped that my expertise in that regard would be valued while I served as a moderator here between November of 2016 and March of 2019 (when I resigned as such). However, that didn’t pan out. Still, I live in hope.

    Astrolux seems to be creating a lot of changes.  I can’t even access a list of my own comments, let alone anyone else’s, except for the most recent 40 comments or so.  And of course, searching for a member’s name only brings up a couple of Alex’s Greatest Hits posts (or some such) but nothing, not even posts, by the author I’m looking for.

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  13. She Member
    She
    @She

    Cassandro (View Comment):
    Astrolux seems to be creating a lot of changes.  I can’t even access a list of my own comments, let alone anyone else’s, except for the most recent 40 comments or so.  And of course, searching for a member’s name only brings up a couple of Alex’s Greatest Hits posts (or some such) but nothing, not even posts, by the author I’m looking for.

    Huh.  The comments list seems to work as it always did for met (all 1518 pages of it, back to December 12, 2010).  The link (substitute your member name as appropriate) should be:

    https://ricochet.com/members/membername/blog/comments/

    When I look at your comments, @markcamp, there are 820 pages, going all the way back to June 4, 2015.  So not sure what’s going on.

    I don’t see a change in the member search function either. A member search (https://ricochet.com/members/) for “markcamp”  brings up a link to your profile.  Click on that, and then pick “posts,” and I see the first of 21`pages of your posts.  I can select other pages at will, and see (I think) all your posts.

    Astroluxe is/are good about posting changes to the site here: https://ricochet.com/changelog/ and bugs should be reported here: https://support.ricochet.com/. (Those two things were announced in a post a somewhere a couple of months ago.)

    But I’m not seeing either of the scenarios you describe.

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  14. Cassandro Coolidge
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    @Flicker

    She (View Comment):
    https://ricochet.com/members/membername/blog/comments/

    Thanks.  Well, I entered “https://ricochet.com/members/flicker/blog/comments/” I saw it going back to when I first joined, I suppose.  But this is not what I’ve always done — and frankly having to remember an internet address to either make programming suggestions or to look up old comments is not user friendly — to me, at least.

    In the past I would simply go to a member’s wall and there they all were, pages and pages going back to when they first joined.  Lately it changed so that going to the bottom of the page and clicking “next page” takes you to 20 or so more comment entries listed, but no more pages or comments after that.  This former way is the way I’ve always done it, searching back years, and learning a new IP address or URL, or whatever it is, would be unfortunate.

    As for the other point I made about using the search engine to find members’ comments, I just tried to search for Mark Camp I got a smattering in of posts (with two by Alex of course) and then by Kirkian Wanderer, and Mark Alexander and Rodin, and more.  And when I tried looking for a specific comment from nanocelt, Nanocelt TheContrarian , nanocelt the contrarian, and “nanocelt thecontrarian she willed herself to die” (without the quotes) each time I only got two posts by Alex, or else on the last case, “nothing found”.

    I looked for kedavis’ under the web address https://ricochet.com/members/kedavis/blog/comments/ and the pages go all the way up to an indeterminate 3,04 which may be a browser problem (though I’ve never had one before).

    But at it stands, just having to keep a listing of web addresses to be able to function within a website seems loony tunes to me.  It’s like buying an ice cream cone and having the ice cream served up into your hand without the cone.  And you’re supposed to say thank you.  And pay your quarter.

    Anyway, She, thanks for all your suggestions and help.

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  15. Cassandro Coolidge
    Cassandro
    @Flicker

    Now when I searched for Mark Camp, I got his wall, and a max of two pages of comments.

    And when I searched for markcamp, I got two of Alex’s posts and a bunch of others.

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  16. She Member
    She
    @She

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):
    https://ricochet.com/members/membername/blog/comments/

    Thanks. Well, I entered “https://ricochet.com/members/flicker/blog/comments/” I saw it going back to when I first joined, I suppose. But this is not what I’ve always done — and frankly having to remember an internet address to either make programming suggestions or to look up old comments is not user friendly — to me, at least.

    In the past I would simply go to a member’s wall and there they all were, pages and pages going back to when they first joined. Lately it changed so that going to the bottom of the page and clicking “next page” takes you to 20 or so more comment entries listed, but no more pages or comments after that. This former way is the way I’ve always done it, searching back years, and learning a new IP address or URL, or whatever it is, would be unfortunate.

    As for the other point I made about using the search engine to find members’ comments, I just tried to search for Mark Camp I got a smattering in of posts (with two by Alex of course) and then by Kirkian Wanderer, and Mark Alexander and Rodin, and more. And when I tried looking for a specific comment from nanocelt, Nanocelt TheContrarian , nanocelt the contrarian, and “nanocelt thecontrarian she willed herself to die” (without the quotes) each time I only got two posts by Alex, or else on the last case, “nothing found”.

    I looked for kedavis’ under the web address https://ricochet.com/members/kedavis/blog/comments/ and the pages go all the way up to an indeterminate 3,04 which may be a browser problem (though I’ve never had one before).

    But at it stands, just having to keep a listing of web addresses to be able to function within a website seems loony tunes to me. It’s like buying an ice cream cone and having the ice cream served up into your hand without the cone. And you’re supposed to say thank you. And pay your quarter.

    Anyway, She, thanks for all your suggestions and help.

    I keep the URL for member searches and comments and bug reports/changelog on my bookmarks tab in Chrome (may not be so easy in other browsers), so it’s a single click for me to get to them and I don’t have to remember the URL or go through the menus.

    The issue you mention, that the last page of comments is numbered weirdly (3,04) is because the box displaying the page number isn’t wide enough to accommodate a number in the thousands.  It might work if the comma was removed.  It has, however, been showing that way for years.  If you click on the “3,04” box, you’ll see that you’re on page 3046 of the comments.  Not saying it’s right or good, or shouldn’t be fixed, just that it’s been that way for a very long time.  It’s a display problem only.

    I’ve never known the “search” engine to return comments when they are searched for.  It’s always been my understanding that comments aren’t searched, and I’m pretty sure we’ve been told, times without number, that there’s no way to easily search comments.

    You can get to members and comments through the menus.  Hover over your avatar and click on “members” to get to the member search page. From there, you can search a member and get to their wall.

    I’ve tried the procedure you mention–going to a member’s wall and clicking “Load More” at the bottom of the first page.  I see what you are describing–that there’s no option to continue “loading more” once the second page of the wall appears.  I don’t use the “Wall” page per se very often, as I don’t want to weed through posts/comments/activity to find something, but I have reported this problem on the Wall page as a bug.  I doubt that whatever code change caused this problem was deliberate, as I don’t think it’s reported in the change log.  And it hardly seems like a desirable outcome.

    There is a link on the member’s “Wall” page to the member’s “Posts.”  That one works as expected, all the way back to the beginning.  From the “Posts” page, you can get to the members “Comments,” also going back to the beginning.

    I’m not suggesting that the way things work is brilliant; I’m just saying this is how they work….

    Thanks for your kind words.

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  17. Rightfromthestart Coolidge
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    I can’t imagine the parents in any US town allowing this to go on, once  the authorities have done nothing people would take it into their own hands.  

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  18. Stina Member
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    @CM

    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    I can’t imagine the parents in any US town allowing this to go on, once the authorities have done nothing people would take it into their own hands.

    That’s what people with an identity do. I hear identity politics for white people is a huge no no around these parts.

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  19. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    I can’t imagine the parents in any US town allowing this to go on, once the authorities have done nothing people would take it into their own hands.

    Well they have guns. And they have churches where people with guns can organize.

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  20. Sandy Member
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    @Sandy

    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    I can’t imagine the parents in any US town allowing this to go on, once the authorities have done nothing people would take it into their own hands.

    I can’t either, but then there is so much I hadn’t been able to imagine that has in fact occurred, especially recently.  It’s difficult anymore to be shocked.  

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