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SUPREME COURT OVERTURNS ROE v. WADE
The Supreme Court of the United States has overturned the landmark Roe v. Wade decision, ending a 49-year-long interpretation that abortion is a constitutional right. Now individual states have the power to allow, limit, or ban the practice altogether.
“We end this opinion where we began,” Justice Samuel Alito wrote in the 6-3 opinion (PDF). “Abortion presents a profound moral question. The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion. Roe and Casey arrogated that authority. We now overrule those decisions and return that authority to the people and their elected representatives.”
The case decided today was Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, which focused on a Mississippi law banning abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy. The state asked the Supreme Court to strike down a lower court ruling that stopped the legislation from taking effect.
Justices Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett joined Alito’s opinion. Chief Justice John Roberts agreed with the result but filed a separate opinion. Justices Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor, and Elena Kagan filed a joint dissent.
In addition to ending Roe (1973), today’s decision also overturned Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), which re-affirmed abortion as a constitutional right.
Published in Law
I wish Fauci would do an ad for PP.
If you point out that black people abort at a higher rate, then if you are against providing abortion, you are racist.
Obviously.
I think in 2024 or 2028 they will nominate a fake “moderate,” just like they did in 1992.
The stricter abortion laws of the last few years in the GOP states has most certainly reduced the number of abortions. You can find a number of articles on it, here’s one with data.
Which will be the first state to make abortion mandatory? I am not joking BTW.
How many?
And who cares? I’ll stipulate that the men who go along with the abortions are horrible, too.
But the women make the decision. Men have absolutely zero legal authority over the question of whether or not their unborn child is to be killed.
Edited to add: I may be getting a bit worked up about this. I am so, so very sick of men being blamed for women behaving badly, and whites being blamed for blacks behaving badly. This doesn’t mean that men and whites never behave badly. But I’m tired of people making excuses for the groups who are exhibiting the very worst behavior.
And that “moderate” will probably be Pete Buttigieg.
And do so saying, “It’s for the children.”
At the rate they are moving left, Buttigieg will actually look moderate by then.
May the words “penumbra” and “emanations” NEVER stain a SCOTUS opinion ever again!!
A Congressional hearing to try this woman for sedition and treason must begin immediately!
Securing extra ammo seems prudent. lol
Well, he did specify devout Catholics.
He’s moderate?
No, he’s “moderate”.
Devout Catholic Joe Biden, that’s his full title you know.
Just riffing on Biden’s claim that he’s devout. My Catholic in-laws are ecstatic today.
So, the Left blathers on and on about how the Republicans are against democracy. That argument doesn’t quite work when the Democrats are against allowing the elected branches of the 50 states to set abortion policy.
Sedition! Treason! Inciting a mob to kill SCOTUS Justices!! Bring her before a Congressional June 24th Tribunal!! Now!! And bring Mad Maxine with her.
This is one of the best days in the history of our nation. Rejoice!
I’ve seen a number of various polls but the common theme is a relatively small % of Americans believe abortion should be legal in any and all cases. While an even smaller % of Americans believe abortion should be banned in all cases. Nearly 70% of Americans fall somewhere in the middle where it should be allowed but with some kind of restriction. An even higher % of Americans believe an abortion should always be allowed if the life of the mother is in danger.
Part of the appeal of the ruling today is that the American people and politicians will finally be forced to have a real conversation and make real decisions. As opposed to all the political grandstanding we’ve seen in the past where roe v wade made it so that they were never held to whatever preposterous thing they would say.
If Congress could get their act together and put together a law that the overwhelming majority of Americans could probably get behind (abortion allowed when mother is in danger and lets say you make it elective up to 15-20 weeks in), do we think the Supreme Court would actually strike that down? A lot of the focus in today’s ruling seems to be around states’ rights, but another big part seems to be that roe v wade was essentially a made up law that had no backing. Whereas a law passed by Congress would carry much more weight.
Obviously Congress won’t be doing anything like that in the near term as the Left needs all the political help they can get in the midterms. But long term it feels like there is such an obvious middle ground.
Pray for the protection of our Supreme Court, the rule of law and our country –
Considering much of the decision focused on the legal issue that this was a state responsibility and not a federal responsibility, I suspect the Supreme Court would strike down a Federal abortion statute. They have demonstrated they are more interested in what the Constitution says rather than what popular opinion says.
I think it needs to be explained that “abortion” is always and everywhere about killing the baby, not saving the mother. Catholic hospitals perform surgeries to “save the mother” even if it entails the death of the baby, but that’s not what they set out to do, unlike abortionists. If mother and baby can be saved — i.e., the baby is viable — Catholic doctors will do their best to save both. I think few people who support “abortion to save the mother” understand the difference of intent. Abortionists intend to kill.
There is also the issue of when a pregnant woman is told by her physician (who is pro-abortion) that continuing the pregnancy will result in severe injury, but not necessarily death. So, the woman says, “Well, I don’t want to be severely injured” and she gets an abortion.
But in reality, the physician knew that the woman’s chances of being severely injured was pretty low.
I don’t think a woman should be able to get an abortion simply because a single physician says, “Oh, you need an abortion or you will die,” if there are other physicians who would say that the woman’s risk of dying is pretty low.
OTOH a lot of minorities live in blue states that will be unaffected by this decision. If there’s an increase in population it will mostly come from the red states, giving them more representatives and more electoral votes down the road.
There’s also this:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/media-ignores-post-abortive-mortality-rate-celebrates-longevity-of-coffee-drinkers
American media is so disgustingly dishonest.
This is a good point.
On the surface it seems that both sides of this debate are in favor of a position which actually hurts them electorally. Abortion gets rid of minority babies disproportionally. And yet Republicans, who get fewer minority votes, want to stop abortion and Democrats, who get more minority votes, promote it as a sacred right. A visitor from Mars would expect the opposite. Are we really to believe that each side is being morally idealistic even to the point of jeopardizing their own interests?