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It’s Time to Mandate High School Debate Training
One of my favorite high school teachers, Dr. Oliver, approached me sometime in late 1973 at my rural high school in the McClain County farm community of Washington, Oklahoma, with an offer.
“Would you be interested in starting a debate team?” I recall him asking me after class one day. My partner would be his son, Kelton, a classmate. My family had recently relocated there a few months earlier from southwest Oklahoma City to escape the madness of forced bussing during the desegregation battles of the early 1970s, where I was forced to change schools. My father had other ideas.
I went from a high school class of about 300 at US Grant High School to 28, which mandated only two courses in all four years – English and Agriculture. Joining Future Farmers of America (FFA), 4-H, and helping raise a farm animal were expectations that weren’t an option at suburban Southeast High School, where I would otherwise be forced to attend.
Starting a debate program at a small rural high school that was more interested in farming and football was unheard of, but I quickly said yes. Dr. Oliver saw something in the city boy who did pretty well at FFA speech contests and was fascinated by watching Senate Watergate hearings on television. He always aired them during History class.
We entered a debate tournament that year and promptly went 0-4.
But somehow, the experience resulted in a couple of scholarship offers in Debate at two public universities in Oklahoma. Perhaps more importantly, it also helped inform the fertile and impressionable mind of a 17-year-old on the importance of preparation, communication, argument, and persuasion. It helped prepare me for a 40+ year career in journalism, politics, Capitol Hill, and corporate lobbying. And this blog, perhaps.
Probably right. But 17 year olds figured it out first.
The AMA and others opposed a Medicare program starting in the 1950s, for the same reasons.
Oh, come on. That’s not true.
Civil behavior and debate rules go hand in hand. I recall rules when I debated (late Cretaceous Period) that if you “lost control” or engaged in uncivil debate, you were hit very hard – almost disqualifying. We do not need “universal teaching” of “debating skills and civil behavior.” You repeat yourself unless, of course, you’re talking about “Idiocracy” level debates.
I debated for only a couple years in high school, but its effect on my thinking has remained. One lesson I learned that was to defeat your opponent, you had to know his arguments better than he did. And there’s a benefit in having to debate both sides.
Don’t write off homeschoolers in debate. They have a separate (at least last I knew) league, started by Home School Legal Defense Association, but my recollection is that it was eventually spun off as a separate entity. I saw a lot of it, as my son was involved in it by the time he was in probably 7th grade. It was very high quality debate, as witnessed by the spectacular successes of Patrick Henry College.
I’ve also judged debate. Before the debate begins, I tell them that “I don’t do speed & spread. If you try it, you will lose me.” And with good reason – I can’t keep track of the arguments any more than the other team can.
Great response. I should have done that when I was judging the nationals in 1990.
I disagree, and here is why.
I think that teachers should use competitive debating experiences to teach not only the debating skills (here I am using the same definition as above, which doesn’t include skills in civil behavior) but also to teach civil behavior.
To do that, they will need recognize that the two activities do not go hand in hand. The current failure of debaters to debate civilly proves it. They’ve learned debating skills, but haven’t learned to debate civilly.
Education professionals must alter the current rules and judging practices to ensure that students can’t win merely by learning the afore-mentioned debating skills, but not how to debate civilly.
Great piece! There is real value in that course, even if just for a year. I taught high school logic and debate for several years in a homeschool co-op setting and brought judges in for the final debates. It can be done! Parents would tell me afterward that they really saw a difference in how engaged their child became in their “adult” discussions, as we talked a lot about current events in my class. It’s also fun knowing what side of an issue a kid is on then making them debate for the other side. They love that. 😉
Yep. But it was a way of confusing an unsophisticate debate opponent.
The 1963-64 HS debate topic was well before my time.
In 1972-1973 the national college debate topic was: RESOLVED: “That the federal government should provide a program of comprehensive medical care for all its citizens.”
I was a high school debater. It was invaluable in forming the ability to understand and frame an argument. As I hear people talk about systematic problems, I find myself wanting to shout, “you don’t understand inherency,” or, “where’s the significance?” There’s a dearth of critical thinking in this country that could be improved by the skills introduced through debate. I try to pass some of these on to my own kids when I can.
The only draw back I can see with my debating experience, is that it has made me a natural contrarian. I feel obliged to argue with almost everyone on every topic. Or maybe that’s something else.
Nationalizing medical care was the 72-73 collegiate debate topic. I am not old enough to have participate in the 63-64 HS debate topic,