RINOS Surround and Protect a Wounded Member of the Herd

 

A Who’s-Whom of Bush-Republicans is holding a fundraiser to help Wyoming Congresswoman Liz Cheney fend off a primary challenge from a conservative challenger who will vote the same as Cheney but probably won’t sign onto one of Nancy Pelosi’s January 6th Show Trials. The fundraiser will be held in Cheney’s hometown of Jackson Hole, WY, McLean, VA, and will feature Utah Senator Pierre Delecto. The guest list is an epic networking opportunity of globalists, neoconservatives, and people who still think the War in Afghanistan was a good idea.

Expected to attend are former Oklahoma Sen. Don Nickles, former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, former Dick Cheney aide Scooter Libby, former presidential candidate and ex-Hewlett-Packard executive Carly Fiorina, former Solicitor General Ted Olson, conservative lawyer Miguel Estrada and former Massachusetts Lt. Gov. Kerry Healey, who served under Romney when he was governor of the Bay State.

The Bush Republicans despise Trump and a big part of their hatred is because “Trumpism” — the idea that Republicans once elected should try to advance the policies they campaigned on — is a threat to the control of the party the Bushes enjoyed from the end of the Reagan Administration. These are people who favor high levels of illegal immigration because it provides cheap labor, they favor outsourcing American industry to China because that helps Wall Street get wealthier, they favor foreign intervention and “nation-building” no matter how many times it fails, and they are comfortable letting Democrats control the domestic agenda.

They are the leaders of a movement hopelessly out of touch with ordinary Americans and Republican voters. While they are willing to tolerate working-class people voting Republican, they are appalled that the lower classes actually want the party’s policies to reflect their interests. (The very nerve!) They are puzzled that the working class seems unwilling to go to war to protect their financial interests.  Even more than Trump, they despise us.

These are Liz Cheney’s people.

I would love to see Liz Cheney get kicked to the curb on August 16th, but we will see if her daddy’s wealthy friends can raise enough money to save her, and if money matters more than principles.

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  1. Hoyacon Member
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    Wasn’t Pierre Delecto the name of a Bond villain?

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  2. Locke On Member
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    I love seeing all the ‘formers’ in the attendee list.  Implying that ‘currents’ are worried about being associated with that effort, a good thing.  

    Here’s to more RINOs joining that ‘former’ list this fall, Cheney included.

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  3. Hoyacon Member
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    Dodged a bullet with Carly.  She talked a good game.  For awhile.

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  4. EDISONPARKS Member
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    The money raised on a Liz Cheney for Congress fund raiser would be better spent on some charitable endeavor like cancer research or funding a children’s hospital.

    To raise real money for a lost cause like traitor Liz Cheney in very conservative Wyoming is an asinine waste of financial resources.

    Liz needs to move to a blue state where she can win (R) primaries, then get her ahrse handed to her by the (D) in the general.

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  5. Henry Racette Member
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    I don’t actually know what motivates her supporters; perhaps different individuals have different motivations to support an incumbent against a challenger. There may be a kind of loyalty in that. But whatever the reasoning, I would enjoy seeing Ms. Chaney replaced by a conservative Republican who didn’t share her willingness to conspire with Democrats to undermine her own party. Same goes for Mr. Romney. There’s a disloyalty in attacking the party from within, and I don’t think a member who does that should be protected from Republican challengers.

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  6. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):
    Liz needs to move to a blue state where she can win (R) primaries, then get her ahrse handed to her by the (D) in the general.

    You mean like her home state of Virginia? 

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  7. Franco Member
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    This isn’t about a congressional seat. This is a fight for their power. These people are vicious. They are spectacularly unprincipled. They lie, and they do not care about anything other than raw power. 

    The good thing  is they are very bad at winning elections where people actually, you know, vote.

    This fundraiser is also a strategy session and a loyalty-pact, an event from which to move forward. Money means very little to these people. They are happy to help a friend-in-need besieged Cheney daughter of my friend and patron, Dick, and everyone’s going to be there…. 

    They are standing at a roulette table, betting just enough money so they can get invited the the Engelbert Humperdink meet-and-greet. Whatever they lose by betting on double-zero on Cheney is insignificant. Sometimes I think we don’t really even understand the scale of these operations. A few hundred thousand isn’t a problem for these people. They are helping. They are saving Democracy! 

    There’s quite a crusading drive in the Cheney DNA – anyone noticed that? The women especially. And she’s leading the charge of the latest boogeyman, Trump supporters and by association with the Jan 6th allegations, insurrectionists.

    We actually ended up with a kind of monarchy by proxy

    These people, the Bushes the Romneys the Cheneys, hold not one whit or consideration for those of us who defended them and supported them against relentless assaults from Democrats. 

    Probably 2/3rds of people who  voted for Trump had  defended them and the ideas. Most Trump supporters now generally agreed with their stated visions in the Republican/Democrat spectrum. 

    Do these people think they can lead us away from our misguided fixations?

     

    Interestingly Trump voter were closer to Reagan Republican than Bush Republican.

    Yet this whole swath of people should be degraded, their leader villianized and portrayed as a clown, while our current nincompoop is exponentially more ridiculous where it counts is casually dismissed or hidden by the media?

     

    Conservatives who agreed with most of their issues, but not globalism and internationalism.

    That was really the only political disagreement, and they chose globalism as their flag.

    And Liz Cheney represents Wyoming. Yeah, right….

     

     

     

     

     

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  8. Hang On Member
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    I don’t actually know what motivates her supporters; perhaps different individuals have different motivations to support an incumbent against a challengers. There may be a kind of loyalty in that. But whatever the reasoning, I would enjoy seeing Ms. Chaney replaced by a conservative Republican who didn’t share her willingness to conspire with Democrats to undermine her own party. Same goes for Mr. Romney. There’s a disloyalty in attacking the party from within, and I don’t think a member who does that should be protected from Republican challengers.

    The motivation is networking. And being able to do deals.

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  9. kedavis Coolidge
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    The money raised on a Liz Cheney for Congress fund raiser would be better spent on some charitable endeavor like cancer research or funding a children’s hospital.

    To raise real money for a lost cause like traitor Liz Cheney in very conservative Wyoming is an asinine waste of financial resources.

    Liz needs to move to a blue state where she can win (R) primaries, then get her ahrse handed to her by the (D) in the general.

    You mean like in her actual home state of Virginia?

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  10. Hang On Member
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    Harriet Hageman is running against Cheney.

    Interview with Dave Rubin 

     

     

     

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  11. Gary Robbins Member
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    The day will come when Liz Cheney is featured in an updated “Profiles in Courage.”  There is a way that she can win; do a Joe Liberman.  Liberman lost the Democrat primary for Senate in CT, and ran as an “Independent Democrat.”  Republicans put no money in that race and urged Republicans to vote for Liberman.

    So Democrats could decline to run someone against Cheney, and it would be Cheney vs.Hagerman in the general election.

    Likewise in Utah, no Democrat has won a Senate seat in over 50 years.  Leading Democrats are asking their party to not nominate anyone, so that Independent Republican Evan McMullin can take out Mike Lee in the General Election.  Of note, Mitt Romney has not endorsed Mike Lee which is a tacit endorsement of Evan McMullin.

    The same tactic could be used to knock out MTG, Paul Gosar and Arizona State Senator Wendy Rogers.

    You don’t think that we are serious?  Watch us.

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  12. DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    You don’t think that we are serious?  Watch us.

    The McStain wing of the GOP is certainly a serious problem for America.  We have been watching for years.  I hope the good people of Wyoming take out the trash this year.

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  13. OmegaPaladin Moderator
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    The day will come when Liz Cheney is featured in an updated “Profiles in Courage.” There is a way that she can win; do a Joe Liberman. Liberman lost the Democrat primary for Senate in CT, and ran as an “Independent Democrat.” Republicans put no money in that race and urged Republicans to vote for Liberman.

    So Democrats could decline to run someone against Cheney, and it would be Cheney vs.Hagerman in the general election.

    Likewise in Utah, no Democrat has won a Senate seat in over 50 years. Leading Democrats are asking their party to not nominate anyone, so that Independent Republican Evan McMullin can take out Mike Lee in the General Election. Of note, Mitt Romney has not endorsed Mike Lee which is a tacit endorsement of Evan McMullin.

    The same tactic could be used to knock out MTG, Paul Gosar and Arizona State Senator Wendy Rogers.

    You don’t think that we are serious? Watch us.

    I think you are serious, and my political enemy.  May you fail in all your political endeavors, and may you feel the consequences for all of Biden’s failings.

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  14. EDISONPARKS Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    The day will come when Liz Cheney is featured in an updated “Profiles in Courage.” There is a way that she can win; do a Joe Liberman. Liberman lost the Democrat primary for Senate in CT, and ran as an “Independent Democrat.” Republicans put no money in that race and urged Republicans to vote for Liberman.

    So Democrats could decline to run someone against Cheney, and it would be Cheney vs.Hagerman in the general election.

    Likewise in Utah, no Democrat has won a Senate seat in over 50 years. Leading Democrats are asking their party to not nominate anyone, so that Independent Republican Evan McMullin can take out Mike Lee in the General Election. Of note, Mitt Romney has not endorsed Mike Lee which is a tacit endorsement of Evan McMullin.

    The same tactic could be used to knock out MTG, Paul Gosar and Arizona State Senator Wendy Rogers.

    You don’t think that we are serious? Watch us.

    That is just outright delusional …. just like Joe Biden would make a better President than Donald Trump.

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  15. GlenEisenhardt Member
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    The establishment GOP hates what the party claims to be for and its voters. They run the show. Getting her out of the party has been near impossible. She and her buddies can vote to remove a sitting GOP president. What does it get them? More support from the establishment. And knocking her off will be symbolic. She might be gone. Her friends and their money still run the show and will never deliver what the voters want. McConnell ripped the RNC for censuring her which is a meaningless gesture. He didn’t rip them for voting for impeachment and this establishment hack is on the cusp of being majority leader again? For what purpose? What’s he going to deliver? And we are supposed to root for these people and this corrupt vehicle? Garbage in and garbage out.

     

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  16. RufusRJones Member
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    There are plenty of policy and policy adjacent things to talk about on this thread. The ideas that motivate who we want to get elected. 

    Ricochet’s Leading Never Trumper™ never addresses this. Somehow this leads to a better world.

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  17. RufusRJones Member
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    Franco (View Comment):
    Interestingly Trump voter were closer to Reagan Republican than Bush Republican.

    I really wish Reagan could come back and explain how everything went off the rails and went in the wrong direction after he left. Particularly after the Soviet Union fell. The GOPe is the core of the problem and they are not going to make it better. Whatever complaints you have about Trump centric policy, it’s a lot better. 

     

     

     

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  18. RufusRJones Member
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    This is very extreme because it’s pure Austrian (hard money libertarian minus some of the social stuff), but I think it’s pretty instructional on this topic. 10 minutes.

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  19. RufusRJones Member
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    I don’t think I’ve ever gotten one person to do this, but I highly recommend the David Stockman interview on real vision. You don’t have to buy the whole program he’s selling. It’s just very instructional on what has really happened. I think they still give you a free trial for a week if you give them a dollar.

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  20. RufusRJones Member
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    Five minutes. What do you think Organized Never Trump’s opinion is on this?

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  21. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    ading Democrats are asking their party to not nominate anyone, so that Independent Republican Evan McMullin can take out Mike Lee in the General Election.

    Which is a tacit concession that Evan McMullin is basically a Democrat. The Never-Trumper beef with Mike Lee isn’t clear, unless it’s just that he didn’t go along with Pierre Delecto on voting for impeachment.

    And it’s funny AF that Never-Trumpers who blather on and on about “muh principles” and “muh rule of law” are lining up behind a Deep-State grifter who stiffed on over $670,000 of campaign debt.

    When Never-Trumpers show their real colors, those colors are invariably blue. It is also clear that the alternative to “Trumpism” is the return of Deep-State Bushism.

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  22. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    ading Democrats are asking their party to not nominate anyone, so that Independent Republican Evan McMullin can take out Mike Lee in the General Election.

    Which is a tacit concession that Evan McMullin is basically a Democrat.

    When Never-Trumpers show their real colors, those colors are invariably blue.

    Evan McMullin was involved in a horrible strategy  to rule lawyer the way to the White House. Let me quote myself:

    If this had happened, then a man 90%+ of the nation did not vote for, would be selected by the GOP in the House to be President. I’ll say this, Democrat and Republican voters would have been united like never before in the history of the Republic. The outrage would have been intense. How supposedly sober and judicious people like Bill Kristol would think this would be a good pathway forward for the long-term survival of the USA is amazing. How could any rational person think this would be a good idea? The Republican party would be rebuked across the nation, not just by Democrats but by its own base. I would never have voted Republican again. It sure would have given the Never Trumpers their dream of “taking their party back”. Not that they would have much of a party left.

    This was the plan of Evan McMullin and his supporters. This is what McMullin voters were voting for. 

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  23. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    really wish Reagan could come back and explain how everything went off the rails and went in the wrong direction after he left. Particularly after the Soviet Union fell. The GOPe is the core of the problem and they are not going to make it better. Whatever complaints you have about Trump centric policy, it’s a lot better.

    1. The thing that went wrong after Reagan left is that the Bushes took over the Republican Party.

    2. Reagan would look at some alleged Republicans and say, “Wait a minute, you’re telling me you had a president who fought Communism (China), cut taxes, secured the border, cut regulations, rebuilt the military and made the country energy independent and  a bunch of you a-holes turned on him over mean tweets directed at the liberal media? And you voted for a corrupt Democrat who fought me every step of the way during my administration?” And then he’d slap some sense into people.

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  24. RufusRJones Member
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    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):
    1. The thing that went wrong after Reagan left is that the Bushes took over the Republican Party.

    They got rid of Paul Volker. Why would you do that? What is wrong with him? Nothing.  RINOs can’t have a hard money guy at the Fed. That is ground zero. Social problems. Inequality. It grows government faster, inherently. It makes people demand leftist services from the state.

    I would love to hear Reagan explain all of this in Austrian terms.

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  25. Stad Coolidge
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Wasn’t Pierre Delecto the name of a Bond villain?

    Sounds like a porn star . . .

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  26. Stad Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    The day will come when Liz Cheney is featured in an updated “Profiles in Courage.”

    And that day is known as “When Hell freezes Over” . . .

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  27. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    The day will come when Liz Cheney is featured in an updated “Profiles in Courage.”

    There is nothing courageous about standing with the ruling party and their media.

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  28. lowtech redneck Coolidge
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    The day will come when Liz Cheney is featured in an updated “Profiles in Courage.” There is a way that she can win; do a Joe Liberman. Liberman lost the Democrat primary for Senate in CT, and ran as an “Independent Democrat.” Republicans put no money in that race and urged Republicans to vote for Liberman.

    So Democrats could decline to run someone against Cheney, and it would be Cheney vs.Hagerman in the general election.

    Likewise in Utah, no Democrat has won a Senate seat in over 50 years. Leading Democrats are asking their party to not nominate anyone, so that Independent Republican Evan McMullin can take out Mike Lee in the General Election. Of note, Mitt Romney has not endorsed Mike Lee which is a tacit endorsement of Evan McMullin.

    The same tactic could be used to knock out MTG, Paul Gosar and Arizona State Senator Wendy Rogers.

    You don’t think that we are serious? Watch us.

    That is just outright delusional …. just like Joe Biden would make a better President than Donald Trump.

    Delusional, yet illustrative of NT and GOPe eagerness to block conservative victories by allowing progressive Democrats to do the dirty work.  Usually its through Failure Theater and ‘not the hill to die on’ inaction, but when necessary-especially in response to a narcissistic wound-they will abandon even the pretense, then gaslight the naive afterwards.

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  29. GlennAmurgis Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    The day will come when Liz Cheney is featured in an updated “Profiles in Courage.” There is a way that she can win; do a Joe Liberman. Liberman lost the Democrat primary for Senate in CT, and ran as an “Independent Democrat.” Republicans put no money in that race and urged Republicans to vote for Liberman.

    So Democrats could decline to run someone against Cheney, and it would be Cheney vs.Hagerman in the general election.

    Likewise in Utah, no Democrat has won a Senate seat in over 50 years. Leading Democrats are asking their party to not nominate anyone, so that Independent Republican Evan McMullin can take out Mike Lee in the General Election. Of note, Mitt Romney has not endorsed Mike Lee which is a tacit endorsement of Evan McMullin.

    The same tactic could be used to knock out MTG, Paul Gosar and Arizona State Senator Wendy Rogers.

    You don’t think that we are serious? Watch us.

    Even McMullin will not knock off Mike Lee

    I voted for this fool in 2016 – just another member of the permanent bureaucracy – pushed the Russian Collusion tripe 

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  30. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    In a desperate bid to save her seat, Wyoming Republican Rep. Liz Cheney is now courting the same voters who once dragged a statue of her father through the streets of Jackson before toppling it 15 years ago.

    “Principles First!” 

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