‘All Animals Are Equal, but Some Animals Are More Equal Than Others.’

 

I need help in trying to understand some of the deep thinking of this “Administration” with the most recent example being the grossly unfair and, if done by anyone but our Potemkin “President,” near illegal announcement that he would only consider a black female for the next seat on the Supreme Court. Here is my question: I would sincerely appreciate it if anyone can tell me the difference between what he (yes, I know and we all know “he” doesn’t do anything but…) is doing and what this sign from our earlier days represents:

How were Mexicans treated during Jim Crow laws? - Quora

Or this one from London:

Some of the messages I found contained such offensive words by today’s standards I could not post them, but you get the point. To return to my question, how are these any more offensive conceptually than the White House criteria, which eliminates 98% or more of the attorneys in the country, approximately a million, from even being considered— even as a long, long shot!- for the position. And, as a writer with the Federalist pointed out,

What a slap in the face, by the way, to Breyer. Nothing says, “Thanks for your service!” like a president effectively deciding you’re unfit to fill the very post you just vacated because he believes it’s politically convenient to discriminate against the skin hue and gonads you were born with. But that’s what the left does. In two years, Breyer will have his namesakes and statues ripped down, just like Lincoln. That’s what they call progress.

There is no doubt that the use of this criteria would be unlawful if used by a business and unconstitutional if used in admission policies in a university; this was set forth clearly in a discussion by Professor Jonathan Turley in an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal titled “A College Couldn’t Get Away With Biden’s High Court Criteria”:

Mr. Biden could have learned something from the universities now defending their admissions policies in Students for Fair Admissions v. President & Fellows of Harvard College and Students for Fair Admissions v. University of North Carolina. For decades, universities have avoided the type of outright quota the court held unconstitutional in Regents of the University of California v. Bakke (1978). “Preferring members of any one group for no reason other than race or ethnic origin is discrimination for its own sake,” Justice Lewis Powell wrote. “This the Constitution forbids.”

As Prof. Turley points out, “Mr. Biden’s use of such threshold exclusions is neither unlawful nor judicially reviewable”’, but it does represent one more instance of this “Administration” taking every opportunity to arrogantly and disdainfully sow divisiveness and fan the flames of already dangerous levels of racial tension across the land. It also carries with it more than just a sniff (no pun intended) of cynicism based on the assumption that no member of the GOP would dare challenge the nomination of one of the most highly privileged classes in America today

While one may safely assume that will be the case with reliable squishes like Romney and Graham, one can only continue to hope that some of the few Senators on our side with at least remnants of backbones may actually examine the record of whichever black woman is nominated just as vigorously as the despicable cretins, such as the current Vice President, Maizie Hirono, and other “luminaries” of the Democrat persuasion, did in the Kavanaugh and Coney hearings. While I am a firm believer in the old saw “Hope springs eternal”, I am certainly not holding my breath on that one.

While not unlawful, this criteria, and the next Justice it will produce, will set up what should be a most uncomfortable scenario when the docket is called for Oral Arguments in the Harvard and UNC cases; Prof. Turley again:

Mr. Biden is now going to create one of the more jarring and incongruous moments in the history of the Supreme Court. This fall, in the Harvard and University of North Carolina cases, the justices will hear arguments that the use of race in admissions is unlawful discrimination. One of them will have gained her seat in part through exclusionary criteria of race and sex.

In the Federalist piece cited above, Joy Pullman sketched out the potential damage Biden is doing with this move (as if he has not done enough damage to our Nation in one short year already) in stark, but accurate, terms:

This makes me sick. When I was a girl, my momma taught me that in America, we don’t treat people any differently due to their skin color. She taught me that’s an evil thing, and she learned it coming of age in Detroit during the civil rights movement. Most Americans alive today learned the same thing from our parents and schools. We hate this and find it utterly repulsive. This is not the America we want, not at all.

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Today’s left also calls “progress” picking a woman for her boobs instead of her brains, and a judge for her skin color instead of her adherence to the law. They also claim that a nominee should be immune to all criticism and gain unthinking support from elected representatives based solely on her skin color and biological sex.

I call this disgustingly racist and sexist. It is not progress, it is retrogression. Americans should not tolerate social Jim Crow dynamics like these any more than we tolerated Jim Crow laws in the second half of the 20th century. I don’t want to go through another round of mass civil unrest to re-establish that American ideal, either. Neither should anyone else, but that’s what this kind of sex- and race-baiting will lead to if left unchecked.

When I first started thinking about writing something about this wretched move on the part of what I consider to be a thoroughly lawless “Administration” which trashes the Rule of Law at every opportunity, I thought I might start with a tongue-in-cheek bit of mischief by wondering what would happen if someone, somewhere, would file a lawsuit claiming this selection was null and void as it is based on the rankest kind of racism and should not be permitted. Lo and behold, I find, in an article titled “You may have a solid racial discrimination lawsuit against Joe Biden and the U.S. Government”, a most interesting discussion by a retired lawyer exploring those very possibilities:

Biden is either more honest than these employers or perhaps just less skilled in duplicity. He boasts of both his diversity and the discrimination that produces it. He has overtly, explicitly and proudly stated that he will rule out 98% of the qualified people for this opening on the basis of their sex and skin color.

That 98% of American lawyers – amounting to a number over a million – have a clearcut lawsuit against Biden and the U.S. government. Expect some of those lawyers to file that suit, including savvy political lawyers at places like Judicial Watch and the Federalist Society.

You too have a claim. Although having dark skin and no penis is a necessary qualification for this opening at the Supreme Court, technically a law degree is not. In fact, for the first century of the Supreme Court’s existence, none of the justices had law degrees because there were no law schools until the early 20th century.

That means the pool of potential plaintiffs in the civil rights claim against Biden and the government is nearly the entire population of American adults.

I foresee some entertaining political theater. Claims will be filed in numerous courts and with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. Maybe some aggressive lawyers will seek temporary restraining orders and preliminary injunctions which would be heard about the same time as the senate confirmation hearings. Decisions will wind their way up the appellate courts culminating in, you guessed it, the Supreme Court.

Where will all of this lead to in the future? The possibilities — bleak as is everything else about this “Administration” — are endless. One talented writer suggests the next logical step in an article titled “Biden Says Next Air Force One Pilot Will Be Black Woman”, in which the “deliberative” process (surely an oxymoron when it comes to this “Administration”) is described as follows:

With calls from within his own party to reimagine the elite retinue of Air Force One pilots into one that “looks like America,” President Biden announced that the next pilot to fly Air Force One will be a black woman.

In his statements from the White House Rose Garden, Biden said that the next Air Force One pilot will be the “most-qualified, active-duty military pilot who isn’t Hispanic, Native American or of Indian, Arab, Irish, Asian, Scandinavian, or Mediterranean descent.” Biden added that “Black men also need not apply,” stating that a president’s safety is too important to be left to anyone other than the most qualified pilot available, provided that the pilot is “a black gal.”

According to anonymous sources within the White House, Biden initially expressed concerns to his aides that a president’s safety when flying is too important to be left to considerations of race and gender, saying “This is my life we’re talking about.” Biden came around, however, after two female staffers fainted and a third male staffer vowed to literally self-immolate then and there if he didn’t choose a black woman. (All of the staffers were white.)

As a proud member of the Bar and one who, if I may say it without sounding too much like so many virtue-signalers of our “woke” generation, reveres and respects our American Rule of Law, it pains me to see these ruthlessly lawless “elites” writing Presidential policy with little or no regard for the values and customs and traditions which made our country what it is today—the greatest Nation ever devised by the mind of man. I hope we can all hang onto the idea that hope really does spring eternal and that we will soon have leaders who love America rather than those who defile America at every opportunity.

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  1. kedavis Coolidge
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    Charles Mark (View Comment):

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    Charles Mark (View Comment):
    Respecting other people’s identities is not woke: it’s good manners. Denigrating someone’s identity because you don’t like their politics, or their life story or the lawful means to their achievements, is bad manners, or worse.

    I couldn’t agree more and the last thing would knowingly commit is a breach of manners or respect and sincerely hope that’s not the way it came across to you. While I agree with your statement about denigrating someone’s identity, etc., I believe it is wrong to use identity as one’s only measure for a nomination to one of the nine most important Judgeships in the world; I not only believe, but know, it is illegal when it comes to businesses and unconstitutional when it comes to university admissions. Not only do I not consider that not disrespectful of any of the nominees I also know it is respectful of the Rule of Law, far more important, in my view, than any one nomination to the Supreme Court. Finally, what gave rise to my initial set of comments in this thread, in addition to the disgraceful savaging of the reputation of one of the finest legal scholars in the country today, is the fact that I am sick to my stomach of all this talk about “whites” being apparently the only group one can now say anything derogatory about with impunity as if we were some kind of lower caste. This all becoming blatantly racist-there’s no other way to describe it. I also feel it is potentially quite dangerous as “whites” should no more be expected to be treated as second-class citizens as blacks did in the time of Jim Crow. With respect, Jim

    I don’t disagree with much of what you say and I appreciate your expression of respect, which is mutual.

    In my first contribution to this debate I used the phrase “suitably qualified”. I don’t like identity politics and I don’t like how President Biden has gone about this (or anything else for that matter). I just think it would be good to see people from different backgrounds on the Supreme Court. In fact, I recently helped my law student daughter with an assignment on the need for some different perspectives in our own (Irish) Courts. I am well aware that they are populated by people who almost all come from the same pool of elite schools, live in the same leafy neighbourhoods and dine in the same restaurants. People like me in many ways. But it’s not healthy.

    That’s been commented on this post before too, I think.  No matter what color/gender/etc the SCOTUS members are, how many of them DIDN’T go to Harvard or Yale?

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  2. Charles Mark Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Charles Mark (View Comment):

    Jim George (View Comment):

    Charles Mark (View Comment):
    Respecting other people’s identities is not woke: it’s good manners. Denigrating someone’s identity because you don’t like their politics, or their life story or the lawful means to their achievements, is bad manners, or worse.

    I couldn’t agree more and the last thing would knowingly commit is a breach of manners or respect and sincerely hope that’s not the way it came across to you. While I agree with your statement about denigrating someone’s identity, etc., I believe it is wrong to use identity as one’s only measure for a nomination to one of the nine most important Judgeships in the world; I not only believe, but know, it is illegal when it comes to businesses and unconstitutional when it comes to university admissions. Not only do I not consider that not disrespectful of any of the nominees I also know it is respectful of the Rule of Law, far more important, in my view, than any one nomination to the Supreme Court. Finally, what gave rise to my initial set of comments in this thread, in addition to the disgraceful savaging of the reputation of one of the finest legal scholars in the country today, is the fact that I am sick to my stomach of all this talk about “whites” being apparently the only group one can now say anything derogatory about with impunity as if we were some kind of lower caste. This all becoming blatantly racist-there’s no other way to describe it. I also feel it is potentially quite dangerous as “whites” should no more be expected to be treated as second-class citizens as blacks did in the time of Jim Crow. With respect, Jim

    I don’t disagree with much of what you say and I appreciate your expression of respect, which is mutual.

    In my first contribution to this debate I used the phrase “suitably qualified”. I don’t like identity politics and I don’t like how President Biden has gone about this (or anything else for that matter). I just think it would be good to see people from different backgrounds on the Supreme Court. In fact, I recently helped my law student daughter with an assignment on the need for some different perspectives in our own (Irish) Courts. I am well aware that they are populated by people who almost all come from the same pool of elite schools, live in the same leafy neighbourhoods and dine in the same restaurants. People like me in many ways. But it’s not healthy.

    That’s been commented on this post before too, I think. No matter what color/gender/etc the SCOTUS members are, how many of them DIDN’T go to Harvard or Yale?

    Which is not a good thing, is it?

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  3. kedavis Coolidge
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    Charles Mark (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Charles Mark (View Comment):

    Jim George (View Comment):

    Charles Mark (View Comment):

    I couldn’t agree more and the last thing would knowingly commit is a breach of manners or respect and sincerely hope that’s not the way it came across to you. While I agree with your statement about denigrating someone’s identity, etc., I believe it is wrong to use identity as one’s only measure for a nomination to one of the nine most important Judgeships in the world; I not only believe, but know, it is illegal when it comes to businesses and unconstitutional when it comes to university admissions. Not only do I not consider that not disrespectful of any of the nominees I also know it is respectful of the Rule of Law, far more important, in my view, than any one nomination to the Supreme Court. Finally, what gave rise to my initial set of comments in this thread, in addition to the disgraceful savaging of the reputation of one of the finest legal scholars in the country today, is the fact that I am sick to my stomach of all this talk about “whites” being apparently the only group one can now say anything derogatory about with impunity as if we were some kind of lower caste. This all becoming blatantly racist-there’s no other way to describe it. I also feel it is potentially quite dangerous as “whites” should no more be expected to be treated as second-class citizens as blacks did in the time of Jim Crow. With respect, Jim

    I don’t disagree with much of what you say and I appreciate your expression of respect, which is mutual.

    In my first contribution to this debate I used the phrase “suitably qualified”. I don’t like identity politics and I don’t like how President Biden has gone about this (or anything else for that matter). I just think it would be good to see people from different backgrounds on the Supreme Court. In fact, I recently helped my law student daughter with an assignment on the need for some different perspectives in our own (Irish) Courts. I am well aware that they are populated by people who almost all come from the same pool of elite schools, live in the same leafy neighbourhoods and dine in the same restaurants. People like me in many ways. But it’s not healthy.

    That’s been commented on this post before too, I think. No matter what color/gender/etc the SCOTUS members are, how many of them DIDN’T go to Harvard or Yale?

    Which is not a good thing, is it?

     

    No, but to the Left, diversity of VIEWS is not only irrelevant, but undesirable.  They want different colors etc, that all think the Approved Way.

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  4. Instugator Thatcher
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    Charles Mark (View Comment):
    I just think it would be good to see people from different backgrounds on the Supreme Court.

    Then we should mandate that no Ivy league graduate should be considered.

    No more Harvard, Yale or Columbia graduates.

    Or actually any on this list.

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  5. GlenEisenhardt Member
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    Instugator (View Comment):

    Charles Mark (View Comment):
    I just think it would be good to see people from different backgrounds on the Supreme Court.

    Then we should mandate that no Ivy league graduate should be considered.

    No more Harvard, Yale or Columbia graduates.

    Or actually any on this list.

    Why should there be people with different backgrounds? Is it going to help read the law? What does the person’s background have to do with the ability to read the law? 

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  6. Instugator Thatcher
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    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):
    Why should there be people with different backgrounds? Is it going to help read the law? What does the person’s background have to do with the ability to read the law?

    Because different people “read” different things into the law. Case in point –  DC v Heller answers the question “Is there an individual right to keep and bear arms in the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution?”

    District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), was a landmark decision of the US Supreme Court ruling that the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution protects an individual’s right to keep and bear arms, unconnected with service in a militia, for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home, and that the District of Columbia’s handgun ban and requirement that lawfully owned rifles and shotguns be kept “unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock” violated this guarantee.

    Many “readers of the law” said “No”. They ignored the plain wording of the Amendment.

    Including a great many from the “Ivy League”.

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  7. GlenEisenhardt Member
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    Instugator (View Comment):
    Because different people “read” different things into the law. Case in point –  DC v Heller answers the question “Is there an individual right to keep and bear arms in the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution?”

    Because different people reject the law or what the law says plainly has nothing to do with their race, class, gender, sexuality or anything else. So give me a break. 

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  8. kedavis Coolidge
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    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):
    Because different people “read” different things into the law. Case in point – DC v Heller answers the question “Is there an individual right to keep and bear arms in the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution?”

    Because different people reject the law or what the law says plainly has nothing to do with their race, class, gender, sexuality or anything else. So give me a break.

    That may have been his point:  that the people involved may have been different colors etc, but the problem was that they went to the same (types of) schools, and thought more or less identically. Diversity, my ass!

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  9. GlenEisenhardt Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):
    Because different people “read” different things into the law. Case in point – DC v Heller answers the question “Is there an individual right to keep and bear arms in the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution?”

    Because different people reject the law or what the law says plainly has nothing to do with their race, class, gender, sexuality or anything else. So give me a break.

    That may have been his point: that the people involved may have been different colors etc, but the problem was that they went to the same (types of) schools, and thought more or less identically. Diversity, my ass!

    Where you go to school does not mean a person will think X or Y because they went there. Again, none of this should ever be considered. Experience and merit is all that matters. 

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  10. kedavis Coolidge
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    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):
    Because different people “read” different things into the law. Case in point – DC v Heller answers the question “Is there an individual right to keep and bear arms in the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution?”

    Because different people reject the law or what the law says plainly has nothing to do with their race, class, gender, sexuality or anything else. So give me a break.

    That may have been his point: that the people involved may have been different colors etc, but the problem was that they went to the same (types of) schools, and thought more or less identically. Diversity, my ass!

    Where you go to school does not mean a person will think X or Y because they went there. Again, none of this should ever be considered. Experience and merit is all that matters.

    Whether the people who go to Harvard/Yale/etc tend to think alike because they went to Harvard/Yale/etc, or whether they went to Harvard/Yale/etc because they already think alike, is basically irrelevant.  The end result is the same:  If you select (more or less) exclusively from Harvard/Yale/etc, you’re likely to get people who think alike.  At the very least, it makes it easier for the Left to “pre-screen” for ideology while giving them the cover of “Hey, they went to Harvard/Yale/etc, of course they’re the most qualified!”  Diversity of THOUGHT should be seen as more important than diversity of COLOR etc, but the Left will have none of it.

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  11. Instugator Thatcher
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    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):
    Because different people “read” different things into the law. Case in point – DC v Heller answers the question “Is there an individual right to keep and bear arms in the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution?”

    Because different people reject the law or what the law says plainly has nothing to do with their race, class, gender, sexuality or anything else. So give me a break.

    I never said anything about race, class, gender, or sexuality. It is about where they went to school.

    Allow me to introduce you to Jane Kitchen. Jane comes from a single parent household and had a 75K scholarship to Bryn Mawr (an Ivy League school, one of the Seven Sisters.) She desired to attend there because of ideology. She left because of COVID.

    The Ivy has a distinct ideology and does not respect diversity of thought. They would never find a right to keep and bear arms in the constitution, and they are perfectly ok with outlawing “hate speech”, not to mention foregoing religious liberty.

    We have too many Ivy League Justices, as though the Ivy League is some indicator of merit.

     

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  12. Instugator Thatcher
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    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):
    Where you go to school does not mean a person will think X or Y because they went there.

    Sure it does. More than likely. See “Culture War” and “Long March Through the Institutions” and Conquest’s 2nd Law of Politics. (hint, Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing.)

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  13. GlenEisenhardt Member
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    Instugator (View Comment):

    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):
    Where you go to school does not mean a person will think X or Y because they went there.

    Sure it does. More than likely. See “Culture War” and “Long March Through the Institutions” and Conquest’s 2nd Law of Politics. (hint, Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing.)

    Really? So why is Ted Cruz a Conservative? Gorsuch went to Harvard. Clarence Thomas went to Yale. Alito went to Yale too. So did Sotomayor. They all think alike? If you want to say there should be less ivy league people that’s fine. I agree. But let’s not pretend that people don’t think for themselves and where they go to school implants all their values. 

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  14. kedavis Coolidge
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    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):

    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):
    Where you go to school does not mean a person will think X or Y because they went there.

    Sure it does. More than likely. See “Culture War” and “Long March Through the Institutions” and Conquest’s 2nd Law of Politics. (hint, Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing.)

    Really? So why is Ted Cruz a Conservative? Gorsuch went to Harvard. Clarence Thomas went to Yale. Alito went to Yale too. So did Sotomayor. They all think alike? If you want to say there should be less ivy league people that’s fine. I agree. But let’s not pretend that people don’t think for themselves and where they go to school implants all their values.

    Not always, no.  But it seems pretty fair to say that, out of hundreds/thousands of alums, those like Gorsuch and Thomas and Alito are the exceptions that actually prove the rule.

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  15. GlenEisenhardt Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):

    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):
    Where you go to school does not mean a person will think X or Y because they went there.

    Sure it does. More than likely. See “Culture War” and “Long March Through the Institutions” and Conquest’s 2nd Law of Politics. (hint, Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing.)

    Really? So why is Ted Cruz a Conservative? Gorsuch went to Harvard. Clarence Thomas went to Yale. Alito went to Yale too. So did Sotomayor. They all think alike? If you want to say there should be less ivy league people that’s fine. I agree. But let’s not pretend that people don’t think for themselves and where they go to school implants all their values.

    Not always, no. But it seems pretty fair to say that, out of hundreds/thousands of alums, those like Gorsuch and Thomas and Alito are the exceptions that actually prove the rule.

    You can only appoint one person to the supreme court. Not hundreds of thousands. Who cares what pool you get them from? And colleges are mostly liberal. Doesn’t matter if they’re ivy league or not. The professors and staff are usually liberal. 

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  16. Instugator Thatcher
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    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):
    Who cares what pool you get them from?

    I do.

    Allow me to introduce you to the Federalist Society.

    The Federalist Society was founded in 1982 by a group of students from the Yale Law SchoolHarvard Law School, and University of Chicago Law School who wanted to challenge the liberal or left-wing ideology that they perceived to dominate most elite American law schools and universities. The organization’s ideals include “checking federal power, protecting individual liberty and interpreting the Constitution according to its original meaning”,[2] and it plays a central role in networking and mentoring young conservative lawyers.

    Since the 1960’s the American Bar Association has graded potential Federal Judge appointments. While the Bar may have represented classical liberal values at that time, it is a classic example of Conquest’s 2nd law and has become left wing over time.

    In 1982, the federalist society was founded.

    In 1990, Justice David Souter was nominated and confirmed to the US Supreme court under the Presidency of G.H.W. Bush. Despite a thin paper trail, Souter was expected to behave in originalist fashion. Let us say that he didn’t.

    The Federalist Society took it upon itself to help prevent this in the future.

    Members of the society helped to encourage President George W. Bush‘s decision to terminate a nearly half-century-old practice of giving the American Bar Association confidential early access to judicial nominees, allowing the ABA to rate nominee’s qualifications for office before the nominations were announced. Since the administration of President Dwight D. Eisenhower, the American Bar Association provided the service to presidents of both parties and the nation by vetting the qualifications of those under consideration for lifetime appointment to the federal judiciary before any other group. The society alleged that the bar association showed a liberal bias in its recommendations.[34][35][36] Examples given included that while former Supreme Court clerks nominated to the Court of Appeals by Democrats had an average rating of slightly below “well qualified”, similar Republican nominees were rated on average as only “qualified/well qualified.” In addition the bar association gave Ronald Reagan‘s judicial nominees Richard Posner and Frank H. Easterbrook its lowest possible ratings of “qualified/not qualified”,[37] and Judges Posner and Easterbrook have gone on to become the two most highly cited judges in the federal appellate judiciary.

    So yes, the pool that they come from matters, and in a strict meritocracy they would not have such an outside influence on our jurisprudence.

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  17. GlenEisenhardt Member
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    Instugator (View Comment):

    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):
    Who cares what pool you get them from?

    I do.

    Allow me to introduce you to the Federalist Society.

    The Federalist Society was founded in 1982 by a group of students from the Yale Law School, Harvard Law School, and University of Chicago Law School who wanted to challenge the liberal or left-wing ideology that they perceived to dominate most elite American law schools and universities. The organization’s ideals include “checking federal power, protecting individual liberty and interpreting the Constitution according to its original meaning”,[2] and it plays a central role in networking and mentoring young conservative lawyers.

    Since the 1960’s the American Bar Association has graded potential Federal Judge appointments. While the Bar may have represented classical liberal values at that time, it is a classic example of Conquest’s 2nd law and has become left wing over time.

    In 1982, the federalist society was founded.

    In 1990, Justice David Souter was nominated and confirmed to the US Supreme court under the Presidency of G.H.W. Bush. Despite a thin paper trail, Souter was expected to behave in originalist fashion. Let us say that he didn’t.

    The Federalist Society took it upon itself to help prevent this in the future.

    Members of the society helped to encourage President George W. Bush‘s decision to terminate a nearly half-century-old practice of giving the American Bar Association confidential early access to judicial nominees, allowing the ABA to rate nominee’s qualifications for office before the nominations were announced. Since the administration of President Dwight D. Eisenhower, the American Bar Association provided the service to presidents of both parties and the nation by vetting the qualifications of those under consideration for lifetime appointment to the federal judiciary before any other group. The society alleged that the bar association showed a liberal bias in its recommendations.[34][35][36] Examples given included that while former Supreme Court clerks nominated to the Court of Appeals by Democrats had an average rating of slightly below “well qualified”, similar Republican nominees were rated on average as only “qualified/well qualified.” In addition the bar association gave Ronald Reagan‘s judicial nominees Richard Posner and Frank H. Easterbrook its lowest possible ratings of “qualified/not qualified”,[37] and Judges Posner and Easterbrook have gone on to become the two most highly cited judges in the federal appellate judiciary.

    So yes, the pool that they come from matters, and in a strict meritocracy they would not have such an outside influence on our jurisprudence.

    The federalist society is made up of people from pools you were just decrying. So you want people from pools you think are tainted to pick people from the same pools? And the federalist society has a very poor track record. Not because of where they went to school. But because they’re institutionalist clowns. 

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  18. Instugator Thatcher
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    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):
    And the federalist society has a very poor track record.

    Really? Do tell. How do you measure their track record?

     

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  19. Instugator Thatcher
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    This speaks well of them.

    Former United States Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia (who served as the original faculty advisor to the organization)
    Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito
    Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas
    Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch
    Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh
    Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett

    Court Cases

    Parents Involved in Community Schools v. Seattle School District No. 1 – Win
    District of Columbia v. Heller – Win
    Citizens United v. FEC – Win
    National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius -Loss

    So again, please tell me how you measure failure.

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  20. The Reticulator Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    Except there’s good evidence that they voted for him – many of them both times, and then voted for Trump – not because they thought he was qualified, or even because they thought the country should have a (half-)black president, but because they wanted to feel good about themselves for doing so.  Kinda different.

    The term “half-black” is racist and offensive.  I also dislike it when people say things like, “I’m half Russian.” That’s offensive, too. No they aren’t half Russian. Half their ancestry may be from Russia, but that doesn’t make them half Russian. 

    I may be missing some aspect of this and am willing to listen to arguments to the contrary, but I’m probably going to argue back. 

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  21. GlenEisenhardt Member
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    Instugator (View Comment):

    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):
    And the federalist society has a very poor track record.

    Really? Do tell. How do you measure their track record?

     

    By the fact that no matter how many judges we get we still manage to lose to progressive legal thinking. Where were the federalist society judges during all this covid mess or the election? Oh right. Nowhere. 

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  22. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    I am ok with folks saying “half Black” or some other similar expression as long it doesn’t come with the expectation of benefits.   

    For the record I’d love to hear Elizabeth Warren say aloud the the probable percentage of Native American ancestry she has.  

     

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  23. Instugator Thatcher
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    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):

    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):
    And the federalist society has a very poor track record.

    Really? Do tell. How do you measure their track record?

     

    By the fact that no matter how many judges we get we still manage to lose to progressive legal thinking. Where were the federalist society judges during all this covid mess or the election? Oh right. Nowhere.

    You mean when they struck down COVID restrictions that unfairly targeted Churches? You don’t remember that?

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  24. Instugator Thatcher
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    Duplicate comment

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  25. GlenEisenhardt Member
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    Instugator (View Comment):
    You mean when they struck down COVID restrictions that unfairly targeted Churches? You don’t remember that?

    How about they strike down the restriction that unfairly targets everyone? The government essentially destroyed livelihoods and businesses through never ending administrative fiat. They never were forced to demonstrate why their policies and mandates were vital. The burden of proof was never put on them. And that was after the courts completely let unconstitutional main in balloting move forward and a whole host of other questionable voting changes also done by fiat. So spare me that after all the federalist society recommendations that churches got limited relief as long as they put up with masks and social distancing and all the unproven garbage that was imposed with no evidence to back it up. 

     

    https://www.scotusblog.com/2021/06/gorsuch-turns-down-colorado-churches-request-to-block-covid-restrictions/

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  26. Instugator Thatcher
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    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):
    How about they strike down the restriction that unfairly targets everyone? The government essentially destroyed livelihoods and businesses through never ending administrative fiat. They never were forced to demonstrate why their policies and mandates were vital. The burden of proof was never put on them. And that was after the courts completely let unconstitutional main in balloting move forward and a whole host of other questionable voting changes also done by fiat. So spare me that after all the federalist society recommendations that churches got limited relief as long as they put up with masks and social distancing and all the unproven garbage that was imposed with no evidence to back it up. 

    Let me get this right. Leftists have been solidly in charge of the United States supreme Court since the 1970s. The only organization that has stood up and actually started to try to get things changed at that level didn’t really start getting things changed until about 2001 and you are pissed off that they haven’t changed fast enough for you.

    Here’s a little clue bird for you. Bad supreme court decisions take generations to undo. They always have. If you’re relying on the Supreme Court to get change done in a rapid fashion, you’ve backed the wrong snail.

    So don’t be pissed off that you misunderstand the very fundamental nature of our system of government in that you don’t get relief from courts rapidly. You get relief by electing the right people. At all levels of government. So take your ire somewhere else. I’m all full up here. 

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  27. GlenEisenhardt Member
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    Instugator (View Comment):
    Let me get this right. Leftists have been solidly in charge of the United States supreme Court since the 1970s. The only organization that has stood up and actually started to try to get things changed at that level didn’t really start getting things changed until about 2001 and you are pissed off that they haven’t changed fast enough for you.

    Covid restrictions and destruction of business we’ve seen the last two years came about in the 70s? What are you talking about? What decisions am I demanding get overturned that were in place for generations? I’m demanding some basic protections from fiat from governors and bureaucrats. The Supremes and the lower courts were nowhere because they’re cowards who didn’t want to be called senior citizen killers for striking down onerous and ridiculous mandates that came out of thin air. And that includes the losers the federalist society got through under Trump. The courts haven’t been a solution for decades and they continue not to be. So spare me the it just takes time racket. People lost their livelihoods and all levels of government including the ones run by so called originalist small government people were nowhere to be found. 

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    Instugator (View Comment):
    Bad supreme court decisions take generations to undo.

    Here Glen, I’ll make it easy for you.

    When SCOTUS makes a bad decision, it takes generations to undo.

    Example Plessy V Ferguson until Brown v Board of Education

    Korematsu

    Many others

    You see Glenn, SCOTUS is only the first court to hear something when States sue each other. Not when citizens claim their rights have been violated.

    Those cases take many years to be heard. Multiples of the 2 years we have been enduring COVID restrictions.

    Lower Federal courts haven’t even started hearing cases yet, only petitions for injunctive relief.

    Now make sure you pay attention to your civics lessons, because there is a test to follow.

    Blaming allies in the fight for better judges is a poor waste of time.

    Elections are faster. Try them.

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  29. GlenEisenhardt Member
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    Instugator (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):
    Bad supreme court decisions take generations to undo.

    Here Glen, I’ll make it easy for you.

    When SCOTUS makes a bad decision, it takes generations to undo.

    Example Plessy V Ferguson until Brown v Board of Education

    Korematsu

    Many others

    You see Glenn, SCOTUS is only the first court to hear something when States sue each other. Not when citizens claim their rights have been violated.

    Those cases take many years to be heard. Multiples of the 2 years we have been enduring COVID restrictions.

    Lower Federal courts haven’t even started hearing cases yet, only petitions for injunctive relief.

    Now make sure you pay attention to your civics lessons, because there is a test to follow.

    Blaming allies in the fight for better judges is a poor waste of time.

    Elections are faster. Try them.

    I’ll make it easy for you. Leftists get injunctive relief really quickly when a school doesn’t want to let a trans male into the bathroom or when a baker refuses to bake a cake. Federalist society losers have provided nothing to save our rights or anyone’s business after 2 years of this madness. If conservatives pass a law tomorrow saying a male can’t break a females face in the UFC tournament the left will have it shot down that week. The conservative legal movement has been trash for decades. You can pretend it’s not. The left doesn’t talk about Plessy vs Ferguson when they don’t get what they want. This isn’t hard. 

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