Insanity, Squared

 

Did you know that the government of Germany has approved assisted suicide, or the correct term, euthanasia? And with Germany’s recent history in mind, that makes the idea of medical professionals (whose Hippocratic oath demands that they “First, do no harm”) being directed to help people to die even more horrific than it already is.

A Townhall story tells of a new policy put out by the German Euthanasia Association requiring that patients who wish to access German euthanasia clinics’ services must be vaccinated against the COVID-19 virus! So, the Germans, who already have a sinister history of mass murder, are requiring that their assisted-suicide clients be vaccinated against the virus (which is no threat to people already wishing to terminate their own lives). Apparently to “protect” clinic staff.

The German Euthanasia Association announced that unvaccinated patients will not be able to end their lives with the help of a German euthanasia clinic over fears that one of their doctors could become infected with COVID-19.

Euthanasia is already insanity, going against the sacredness of all human life. This new policy is insanity squared. The story left me shaking my head in dismay. How can intelligent people be in favor of such a disgusting policy? Maybe they’re not so intelligent after all and have forgotten the horrors of the Holocaust. Obviously, they care more for themselves than their patients. This seems to go right along with the policies of the German Catholic bishops, who support homosexuality and have decided to allow “marriage” between people of the same sex. Both policies are antithetical to the survival of the human race. Germany should be ashamed.

[cross-posted at RushBabe49.com]

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  1. Charles Mark Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    BDB (View Comment):

    RushBabe49: […] makes the idea of medical professionals (whose Hippocratic oath demands that they “First, do no harm”) being directed to help people to die even more horrific[…]

    My mother died in prolonged agony. Needless suffering for a terminal patient. That was harm. I don’t intend to hold somebody accountable for every un-taken action (think Rules for Robots), but in specific cases, I view the withholding of a merciful end from a miserably dying person an act of harm. I know it’s difficult, andI know it’s complicated. But harm it is.

    I therefore support legislation to enable a dignified death, as opposed to dying like an animal. Animals we are, but humans as well.

    Equating responsible death with dignity with Nazi gas chambers is taking Buckley’s Boy Scout to another dimension of inappropriate.

    One of the lawyers arguing against the Mississippi abortion law in the Supreme Court today claimed that upholding it could lead to a “slippery slope” of further restrictions on abortion. I have argued that introduction of euthanasia in Ireland (now an inevitability as we go further and further in pursuit of progressivism) would lead to a slippery slope towards inadequate restraints on the practice- and pressure on old and infirm people not to be “a burden on society”. Lies, they cry! There’s no such thing as a slippery slope! You’re scaremongering!

    To me, hearing the argument made by a progressive (admittedly in a different context) is like finding the end of the rhetorical rainbow.

    I for one find the idea of a slippery slope leading to further restrictions on abortion, far less troubling than the slippery slope we’ve been on since at least 1973.

    Agreed. But the pro-abortion side are much more honest about what they want. 

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  2. Randy Webster Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    I for one find the idea of a slippery slope leading to further restrictions on abortion, far less troubling than the slippery slope we’ve been on since at least 1973.

    Why doesn’t SCOTUS just butt out and let the states decide?

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  3. kedavis Member
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    I for one find the idea of a slippery slope leading to further restrictions on abortion, far less troubling than the slippery slope we’ve been on since at least 1973.

    Why doesn’t SCOTUS just butt out and let the states decide?

    That’s what reversing Roe would do.

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  4. The Reticulator Member
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    BDB: Equating responsible death with dignity with Nazi gas chambers is taking Buckley’s Boy Scout to another dimension of inappropriate.

    The problem is, you’re not going to get the one without the other. So equating a bucket of marbles with a pail of fish is wrong, but what about comparing a bucket of marbles with a bucket full of fish and marbles?

    That’s flat horse manure. That’s a ridiculous unsubstantiated claim.

    Then explain how you would write it so we can be 100 percent assured there will be no abuses by which people can suicide inconvenient parents,  political undesirables,  defectives,etc. One thing that would help would be to institute a strict, 100 ft high,  everlasting wall between the medical professions and the suiciders. But I’m not sure that would be enough.  So what else? And how would you get political support for those protections? 

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  5. BDB Coolidge
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    BDB: Equating responsible death with dignity with Nazi gas chambers is taking Buckley’s Boy Scout to another dimension of inappropriate.

    The problem is, you’re not going to get the one without the other. So equating a bucket of marbles with a pail of fish is wrong, but what about comparing a bucket of marbles with a bucket full of fish and marbles?

    That’s flat horse manure. That’s a ridiculous unsubstantiated claim.

    Then explain how you would write it so we can be 100 percent assured there will be no abuses by which people can suicide inconvenient parents, political undesirables, defectives,etc. One thing that would help would be to institute a strict, 100 ft high, everlasting wall between the medical professions and the suiciders. But I’m not sure that would be enough. So what else? And how would you get political support for those protections?

    Ask my Mom.

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  6. The Reticulator Member
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    BDB: Equating responsible death with dignity with Nazi gas chambers is taking Buckley’s Boy Scout to another dimension of inappropriate.

    The problem is, you’re not going to get the one without the other. So equating a bucket of marbles with a pail of fish is wrong, but what about comparing a bucket of marbles with a bucket full of fish and marbles?

    That’s flat horse manure. That’s a ridiculous unsubstantiated claim.

    Then explain how you would write it so we can be 100 percent assured there will be no abuses by which people can suicide inconvenient parents, political undesirables, defectives,etc. One thing that would help would be to institute a strict, 100 ft high, everlasting wall between the medical professions and the suiciders. But I’m not sure that would be enough. So what else? And how would you get political support for those protections?

    Ask my Mom.

    You’re the advocate. I’m asking you. 

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  7. BDB Coolidge
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    BDB: Equating responsible death with dignity with Nazi gas chambers is taking Buckley’s Boy Scout to another dimension of inappropriate.

    The problem is, you’re not going to get the one without the other. So equating a bucket of marbles with a pail of fish is wrong, but what about comparing a bucket of marbles with a bucket full of fish and marbles?

    That’s flat horse manure. That’s a ridiculous unsubstantiated claim.

    Then explain how you would write it so we can be 100 percent assured there will be no abuses by which people can suicide inconvenient parents, political undesirables, defectives,etc. One thing that would help would be to institute a strict, 100 ft high, everlasting wall between the medical professions and the suiciders. But I’m not sure that would be enough. So what else? And how would you get political support for those protections?

    Ask my Mom.

    You’re the advocate. I’m asking you.

    We seem to have gone in a circle then.  I’ll stack my experience against any nebulous argument.  Carry on.

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  8. The Reticulator Member
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    BDB (View Comment):

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    BDB (View Comment):

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    BDB: Equating responsible death with dignity with Nazi gas chambers is taking Buckley’s Boy Scout to another dimension of inappropriate.

    The problem is, you’re not going to get the one without the other. So equating a bucket of marbles with a pail of fish is wrong, but what about comparing a bucket of marbles with a bucket full of fish and marbles?

    That’s flat horse manure. That’s a ridiculous unsubstantiated claim.

    Then explain how you would write it so we can be 100 percent assured there will be no abuses by which people can suicide inconvenient parents, political undesirables, defectives,etc. One thing that would help would be to institute a strict, 100 ft high, everlasting wall between the medical professions and the suiciders. But I’m not sure that would be enough. So what else? And how would you get political support for those protections?

    Ask my Mom.

    You’re the advocate. I’m asking you.

    We seem to have gone in a circle then. I’ll stack my experience against any nebulous argument. Carry on.

    You say it’s a nebulous argument. Prove it.   Just slapping a label on it doesn’t support any kind of stack, whether of pancakes or of experience.  

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  9. BDB Coolidge
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    BDB (View Comment):

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    BDB: Equating responsible death with dignity with Nazi gas chambers is taking Buckley’s Boy Scout to another dimension of inappropriate.

    The problem is, you’re not going to get the one without the other. So equating a bucket of marbles with a pail of fish is wrong, but what about comparing a bucket of marbles with a bucket full of fish and marbles?

    That’s flat horse manure. That’s a ridiculous unsubstantiated claim.

    Then explain how you would write it so we can be 100 percent assured there will be no abuses by which people can suicide inconvenient parents, political undesirables, defectives,etc. One thing that would help would be to institute a strict, 100 ft high, everlasting wall between the medical professions and the suiciders. But I’m not sure that would be enough. So what else? And how would you get political support for those protections?

    Ask my Mom.

    You’re the advocate. I’m asking you.

    We seem to have gone in a circle then. I’ll stack my experience against any nebulous argument. Carry on.

    You say it’s a nebulous argument. Prove it. Just slapping a label on it doesn’t support any kind of stack, whether of pancakes or of experience.

    You prove it.  You’re the one who made a ridiculous claim — that enabling people to avoid needless suffering is inseparable from Nazi horrors.  I submit that your understanding of one or both ends of this is lacking.

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  10. The Reticulator Member
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    BDB (View Comment):

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    BDB: Equating responsible death with dignity with Nazi gas chambers is taking Buckley’s Boy Scout to another dimension of inappropriate.

    The problem is, you’re not going to get the one without the other. So equating a bucket of marbles with a pail of fish is wrong, but what about comparing a bucket of marbles with a bucket full of fish and marbles?

    That’s flat horse manure. That’s a ridiculous unsubstantiated claim.

    Then explain how you would write it so we can be 100 percent assured there will be no abuses by which people can suicide inconvenient parents, political undesirables, defectives,etc. One thing that would help would be to institute a strict, 100 ft high, everlasting wall between the medical professions and the suiciders. But I’m not sure that would be enough. So what else? And how would you get political support for those protections?

    Ask my Mom.

    You’re the advocate. I’m asking you.

    We seem to have gone in a circle then. I’ll stack my experience against any nebulous argument. Carry on.

    You say it’s a nebulous argument. Prove it. Just slapping a label on it doesn’t support any kind of stack, whether of pancakes or of experience.

    You prove it. You’re the one who made a ridiculous claim — that enabling people to avoid needless suffering is inseparable from Nazi horrors. I submit that your understanding of one or both ends of this is lacking.

    I didn’t make that claim. My claim is that instituting medical euthanasia is inseparable from Nazi horrors without any of the safeguards you haven’t been willing to think about.  

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  11. BDB Coolidge
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    BDB: Equating responsible death with dignity with Nazi gas chambers is taking Buckley’s Boy Scout to another dimension of inappropriate.

    The problem is, you’re not going to get the one without the other. So equating a bucket of marbles with a pail of fish is wrong, but what about comparing a bucket of marbles with a bucket full of fish and marbles?

    That’s flat horse manure. That’s a ridiculous unsubstantiated claim.

    Then explain how you would write it so we can be 100 percent assured there will be no abuses by which people can suicide inconvenient parents, political undesirables, defectives,etc. One thing that would help would be to institute a strict, 100 ft high, everlasting wall between the medical professions and the suiciders. But I’m not sure that would be enough. So what else? And how would you get political support for those protections?

    Ask my Mom.

    You’re the advocate. I’m asking you.

    We seem to have gone in a circle then. I’ll stack my experience against any nebulous argument. Carry on.

    You say it’s a nebulous argument. Prove it. Just slapping a label on it doesn’t support any kind of stack, whether of pancakes or of experience.

    You prove it. You’re the one who made a ridiculous claim — that enabling people to avoid needless suffering is inseparable from Nazi horrors. I submit that your understanding of one or both ends of this is lacking.

    I didn’t make that claim. My claim is that instituting medical euthanasia is inseparable from Nazi horrors without any of the safeguards you haven’t been willing to think about.

    Goodbye.

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  12. The Reticulator Member
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    BDB: Equating responsible death with dignity with Nazi gas chambers is taking Buckley’s Boy Scout to another dimension of inappropriate.

    The problem is, you’re not going to get the one without the other. So equating a bucket of marbles with a pail of fish is wrong, but what about comparing a bucket of marbles with a bucket full of fish and marbles?

    That’s flat horse manure. That’s a ridiculous unsubstantiated claim.

    Then explain how you would write it so we can be 100 percent assured there will be no abuses by which people can suicide inconvenient parents, political undesirables, defectives,etc. One thing that would help would be to institute a strict, 100 ft high, everlasting wall between the medical professions and the suiciders. But I’m not sure that would be enough. So what else? And how would you get political support for those protections?

    Ask my Mom.

    You’re the advocate. I’m asking you.

    We seem to have gone in a circle then. I’ll stack my experience against any nebulous argument. Carry on.

    You say it’s a nebulous argument. Prove it. Just slapping a label on it doesn’t support any kind of stack, whether of pancakes or of experience.

    You prove it. You’re the one who made a ridiculous claim — that enabling people to avoid needless suffering is inseparable from Nazi horrors. I submit that your understanding of one or both ends of this is lacking.

    I didn’t make that claim. My claim is that instituting medical euthanasia is inseparable from Nazi horrors without any of the safeguards you haven’t been willing to think about.

    Goodbye.

    A simple admission that you don’t want to talk about the issues would have sufficed.  

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