BLM: Mostly Peaceful

 

From the article:

The head of Black Lives Matter of Greater New York met with Eric Adams, the city’s mayor-elect, to discuss policing and warned that there will be “bloodshed” if the city returns to its pre-De Blasio model, according to a report.

And:

“If he thinks that they’re going to go back to the old ways of policing, then we are going to take to the streets again. There will be riots, there will be fire and there will be bloodshed because we believe in defending our people,” Newsome told the paper. He said that the group prays for peace but prepares “for the worst.”

You know, it’s almost as if going easy on last summer’s protesters emboldened them. (Satire filter set to on.)

Craven city leaders from coast to coast let protesters run wild, and now they threaten the cities with more violence.  The only way out of this downward spiral is massive crackdown on any protests that result in violence, including wanton destruction of property. Mayor-elect Evans knocked out all the candidates who were weak on crime, and yet this BLM leader didn’t get the message. What really stinks is that the people who suffer the most from this abandonment of public order are the people progressives claim to care about — the poor. (I know — progressives don’t really care about the poor, but they think they do.)


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/blm-leader-in-new-york-warns-mayor-elect-against-returning-to-the-old-ways-of-policing

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  1. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    It seems to me that the only people that believe in law and police is middle class whites.

    I’ve seen poll after poll that says blacks in urban areas want more policing, not less. However, their voices are drowned out by the elected “leaders” who supposedly know what’s best . . .

    Does not seem so.  Otherwise they would be vocal about it and vote for it.  But they don’t.  The people in those areas hate the police.  They are tired of the police locking up their families and friends.

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  2. kedavis Coolidge
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    It seems to me that the only people that believe in law and police is middle class whites.

    I’ve seen poll after poll that says blacks in urban areas want more policing, not less. However, their voices are drowned out by the elected “leaders” who supposedly know what’s best . . .

    Does not seem so. Otherwise they would be vocal about it and vote for it. But they don’t. The people in those areas hate the police. They are tired of the police locking up their families and friends.

    They want the police to lock up those other peoples’ families and friends, but not THEIR OWN.  But THEIR OWN families and friends are those OTHER peoples’ families and friends, to everyone else.

    • #32
  3. Hang On Member
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Communities should get what they want. If Blacks do not want police in their communities then remove police from those communities.

    Define community?

    So the community of prison inmates should get what they want?

    And of course, Blacks live in a community that is cut off from everyone else. Nobody ever drives there. And noone ever leaves. 

     

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  4. Hang On Member
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

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    Now that Trump is out of office and Biden installed in the White House, I wonder if BLM and Antifa violence will still be indulged. I guess it depends on the status of those groups within the left; useful idiots, or enforcers.

    If they were merely useful idiots used to undermine Trump, any further violence will not be tolerated even by lefty mayors and DAs. They are now no longer useful and can be disposed of.

    If they are enforcers, the Democrat Party’s goon squad, then they’ll continue to get a pass for their violence.

    Igniting a mob is easy, controlling the blaze is not.

    Sure it is. Mobs tend to break fast when bodies start dropping. Controlling a blaze is possible as long as the 2nd stands.

    Sounds like a perfect solution if you want murder, mayhem and a lot of dead bodies.

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  5. Hang On Member
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    It seems to me that the only people that believe in law and police is middle class whites.

    I’ve seen poll after poll that says blacks in urban areas want more policing, not less. However, their voices are drowned out by the elected “leaders” who supposedly know what’s best . . .

    Does not seem so. Otherwise they would be vocal about it and vote for it. But they don’t. The people in those areas hate the police. They are tired of the police locking up their families and friends.

    So?

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  6. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Hang On (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Communities should get what they want. If Blacks do not want police in their communities then remove police from those communities.

    Define community?

    So the community of prison inmates should get what they want?

    And of course, Blacks live in a community that is cut off from everyone else. Nobody ever drives there. And noone ever leaves.

     

    From what I can tell we give prisoners stuff they want all the time.  

    For purposes of this discussion I will go with the normal definition of community: a group of people living in the same place or having a particular characteristic in common.

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  7. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Hang On (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

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    Michael Minnott (View Comment):

    Now that Trump is out of office and Biden installed in the White House, I wonder if BLM and Antifa violence will still be indulged. I guess it depends on the status of those groups within the left; useful idiots, or enforcers.

    If they were merely useful idiots used to undermine Trump, any further violence will not be tolerated even by lefty mayors and DAs. They are now no longer useful and can be disposed of.

    If they are enforcers, the Democrat Party’s goon squad, then they’ll continue to get a pass for their violence.

    Igniting a mob is easy, controlling the blaze is not.

    Sure it is. Mobs tend to break fast when bodies start dropping. Controlling a blaze is possible as long as the 2nd stands.

    Sounds like a perfect solution if you want murder, mayhem and a lot of dead bodies.

    But most likely less than if the 2nd did not exist.  

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  8. Stad Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    It seems to me that the only people that believe in law and police is middle class whites.

    I’ve seen poll after poll that says blacks in urban areas want more policing, not less. However, their voices are drowned out by the elected “leaders” who supposedly know what’s best . . .

    Do we know who those areas voted for to be mayor? I mean, blacks typically vote 90%+ for Democrats who want them to have LESS policing. Instead of saying one thing but voting another, maybe they should try voting for what they say they want?

    It’s the same way with school choice.  Blacks support school choice in great numbers, but they still vote for a party that’s never going to give it to them – or anyone else . . .

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  9. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Hang On (View Comment):

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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    It seems to me that the only people that believe in law and police is middle class whites.

    I’ve seen poll after poll that says blacks in urban areas want more policing, not less. However, their voices are drowned out by the elected “leaders” who supposedly know what’s best . . .

    Does not seem so. Otherwise they would be vocal about it and vote for it. But they don’t. The people in those areas hate the police. They are tired of the police locking up their families and friends.

    So?

    So they want no police. 

    I really do not understand you guys point that a community does not get policed the way it wants.  Is that not how democracy is supposed to work.  A group of people in a political jurisdiction gets to define how it wants to live?   This group has decided the do not want police and have marched for it and voted for it.  Let them have it.   Best you got against is that some poll may say what you think and not the way they vote.

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  10. Hang On Member
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    It seems to me that the only people that believe in law and police is middle class whites.

    I’ve seen poll after poll that says blacks in urban areas want more policing, not less. However, their voices are drowned out by the elected “leaders” who supposedly know what’s best . . .

    Does not seem so. Otherwise they would be vocal about it and vote for it. But they don’t. The people in those areas hate the police. They are tired of the police locking up their families and friends.

    So?

    So they want no police.

    I really do not understand you guys point that a community does not get policed the way it wants. Is that not how democracy is supposed to work. A group of people in a political jurisdiction gets to define how it wants to live? This group has decided the do not want police and have marched for it and voted for it. Let them have it. Best you got against is that some poll may say what you think and not the way they vote.

    You have places like this all over the world and they are horrible. 
    Favelas in Brazil work on this basis and are permanent traps of poverty, crime and hopelessness. And are reasons for social instability.

    This is your desired aim, evidently. Not mine.

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  11. Ekosj Member
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    It seems to me that the only people that believe in law and police is middle class whites.

    I’ve seen poll after poll that says blacks in urban areas want more policing, not less. However, their voices are drowned out by the elected “leaders” who supposedly know what’s best . . .

    Does not seem so. Otherwise they would be vocal about it and vote for it. But they don’t. The people in those areas hate the police. They are tired of the police locking up their families and friends.

    So?

    So they want no police.

    I really do not understand you guys point that a community does not get policed the way it wants. Is that not how democracy is supposed to work. A group of people in a political jurisdiction gets to define how it wants to live? This group has decided the do not want police and have marched for it and voted for it. Let them have it. Best you got against is that some poll may say what you think and not the way they vote.

    Actually, the neighborhoods most impacted by high crime voted for the most pro-police candidate available in the Dem primary – Eric Adams.   While Adams is a leftist – he was a police officer and at least understands the need for some active policing.  

    Below is a map of the results of the first round of balloting in the Dem Primary.    Soft-on-crime candidates captured Manhattan and the hipster areas of Brooklyn.   But The Bronx, and high crime areas of Brooklyn voted for Adams.  So those most directly impacted voted for active policing.   Those least impacted wanted the least policing.

     

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  12. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Communities should get what they want. If Blacks do not want police in their communities then remove police from those communities.

    For the tenth time. Most Blacks  want the same or more policing.  According to Gallup,

    most Black Americans — 61% — want the police presence to remain the same. This is similar to the 67% of all U.S. adults preferring the status quo, including 71% of White Americans.

    Meanwhile, nearly equal proportions of Black Americans say they would like the police to spend more time in their area (20%) as say they’d like them to spend less time there (19%).

    Blacks are obviously poorly served and poorly represented by their elites but that’s the same for every American group.

    White elites and climate change, come to mind. Most whites don’t think much about it (even white people in Europe) but the elite are willing to screw over the working and middle classes for their dumb ideology.

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  13. Taras Coolidge
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    Now that Trump is out of office and Biden installed in the White House, I wonder if BLM and Antifa violence will still be indulged. I guess it depends on the status of those groups within the left; useful idiots, or enforcers.

    If they were merely useful idiots used to undermine Trump, any further violence will not be tolerated even by lefty mayors and DAs. They are now no longer useful and can be disposed of.

    If they are enforcers, the Democrat Party’s goon squad, then they’ll continue to get a pass for their violence.

    Igniting a mob is easy, controlling the blaze is not.

    Sure it is. Mobs tend to break fast when bodies start dropping. Controlling a blaze is possible as long as the 2nd stands.

    Sounds like a perfect solution if you want murder, mayhem and a lot of dead bodies.

    The notorious Time Magazine article about how Democrats and progressives “fortified” the 2020 election indicates that the Democratic Party can, at least some of the time, turn BLM and Antifa off and on; for example, to intimidate a Republican election judge in Michigan into rubber stamping the election.

    In this recent case, the BLM guy probably just wants to be paid off by the city.

    So I would go with “goon squad”.  As the Democrats morph into a fascist party, they need their street militants.

    • #43
  14. BDB Inactive
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    Do they? I do not seem them marching in the streets asking to support the police. Quite the opposite.

    How would you know? Do you expect them to go out in the streets to only be attacked by BLM from wherever? Do not trust your eyes.

    Well whom do they expect to protect their own neighborhoods?  This applies to any person in any neighborhood.  When a culture and a people are compromised, they are exploited.

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  15. Gary Robbins Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    Do they? I do not seem them marching in the streets asking to support the police. Quite the opposite.

    How would you know? Do you expect them to go out in the streets to only be attacked by BLM from wherever? Do not trust your eyes.

    Do we know who those areas voted for to be mayor?

    In the primary Eric Adams won every borough except Manhattan.

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  16. Nohaaj Coolidge
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    Sure it is.  Mobs tend to break fast when bodies start dropping.  Controlling a blaze is possible as long as the 2nd stands.

    Sure, just ask Rittenhouse. He knows. 

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  17. kedavis Coolidge
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    It seems to me that the only people that believe in law and police is middle class whites.

    I’ve seen poll after poll that says blacks in urban areas want more policing, not less. However, their voices are drowned out by the elected “leaders” who supposedly know what’s best . . .

    Does not seem so. Otherwise they would be vocal about it and vote for it. But they don’t. The people in those areas hate the police. They are tired of the police locking up their families and friends.

    So?

    So they want no police.

    I really do not understand you guys point that a community does not get policed the way it wants. Is that not how democracy is supposed to work. A group of people in a political jurisdiction gets to define how it wants to live? This group has decided the do not want police and have marched for it and voted for it. Let them have it. Best you got against is that some poll may say what you think and not the way they vote.

    You have places like this all over the world and they are horrible.
    Favelas in Brazil work on this basis and are permanent traps of poverty, crime and hopelessness. And are reasons for social instability.

    This is your desired aim, evidently. Not mine.

    The point would be that it’s apparently THEIR desired aim – what they vote for, repeatedly, regardless of what they say in polls – and who are you to deny them what they want?

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  18. kedavis Coolidge
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    Ekosj (View Comment):

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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    It seems to me that the only people that believe in law and police is middle class whites.

    I’ve seen poll after poll that says blacks in urban areas want more policing, not less. However, their voices are drowned out by the elected “leaders” who supposedly know what’s best . . .

    Does not seem so. Otherwise they would be vocal about it and vote for it. But they don’t. The people in those areas hate the police. They are tired of the police locking up their families and friends.

    So?

    So they want no police.

    I really do not understand you guys point that a community does not get policed the way it wants. Is that not how democracy is supposed to work. A group of people in a political jurisdiction gets to define how it wants to live? This group has decided the do not want police and have marched for it and voted for it. Let them have it. Best you got against is that some poll may say what you think and not the way they vote.

    Actually, the neighborhoods most impacted by high crime voted for the most pro-police candidate available in the Dem primary – Eric Adams. While Adams is a leftist – he was a police officer and at least understands the need for some active policing.

    Below is a map of the results of the first round of balloting in the Dem Primary. Soft-on-crime candidates captured Manhattan and the hipster areas of Brooklyn. But The Bronx, and high crime areas of Brooklyn voted for Adams. So those most directly impacted voted for active policing. Those least impacted wanted the least policing.

     

     

    Better.  And readable.

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  19. kedavis Coolidge
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Communities should get what they want. If Blacks do not want police in their communities then remove police from those communities.

    For the tenth time. Most Blacks want the same or more policing. According to Gallup,

    most Black Americans — 61% — want the police presence to remain the same. This is similar to the 67% of all U.S. adults preferring the status quo, including 71% of White Americans.

    Meanwhile, nearly equal proportions of Black Americans say they would like the police to spend more time in their area (20%) as say they’d like them to spend less time there (19%).

    Blacks are obviously poorly served and poorly represented by their elites but that’s the same for every American group.

    White elites and climate change, come to mind. Most whites don’t think much about it (even white people in Europe) but the elite are willing to screw over the working and middle classes for their dumb ideology.

    How strongly did they vote for de Blasio?

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  20. Ekosj Member
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    Taras (View Comment):
    In this recent case, the BLM guy probably just wants to be paid off by the city.

    Excellent point.    It’s the central motif of the Tom Wolfe classic about the late 60’s Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers

    GOING DOWNTOWN TO MAU-MAU THE BUREAUCRATS GOT to be the routine practice in San Francisco. The poverty program encouraged you to go in for mau-mauing. They wouldn’t have known what to do without it. The bureaucrats at City Hall and in the Office of Economic Opportunity talked “ghetto” all the time, but they didn’t know any more about what was going on in the Western Addition, Hunters Point, Potrero Hill, the Mission, Chinatown, or south of Market Street than they did about Zanzibar. They didn’t know where to look. They didn’t even know who to ask. So what could they do? Well . . . they used the Ethnic Catering Service . . . right. . . They sat back and waited for you to come rolling in with your certified angry militants, your guaranteed frustrated ghetto youth, looking like a bunch of wild men. Then you had your test confrontation. If you were outrageous enough, if you could shake up the bureaucrats so bad that their eyes froze into iceballs and their mouths twisted up into smiles of sheer physical panic, into [REDACTED]-eating grins, so to speak—then they knew you were the real goods. They knew you were the right studs to give the poverty grants and community organizing jobs to. Otherwise they wouldn’t know.

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  21. Taras Coolidge
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    It seems to me that the only people that believe in law and police is middle class whites.

    I’ve seen poll after poll that says blacks in urban areas want more policing, not less. However, their voices are drowned out by the elected “leaders” who supposedly know what’s best . . .

    Does not seem so. Otherwise they would be vocal about it and vote for it. But they don’t. The people in those areas hate the police. They are tired of the police locking up their families and friends.

    So?

    So they want no police.

    I really do not understand you guys point that a community does not get policed the way it wants. Is that not how democracy is supposed to work. A group of people in a political jurisdiction gets to define how it wants to live? This group has decided the do not want police and have marched for it and voted for it. Let them have it. Best you got against is that some poll may say what you think and not the way they vote.

    Actually, the neighborhoods most impacted by high crime voted for the most pro-police candidate available in the Dem primary – Eric Adams. While Adams is a leftist – he was a police officer and at least understands the need for some active policing.

    Below is a map of the results of the first round of balloting in the Dem Primary. Soft-on-crime candidates captured Manhattan and the hipster areas of Brooklyn. But The Bronx, and high crime areas of Brooklyn voted for Adams. So those most directly impacted voted for active policing. Those least impacted wanted the least policing.

     

     

    Better. And readable.

    As we’ve learned from Men in Black, a lot of the inhabitants of Manhattan are not even human.

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  22. Henry Castaigne Member
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    It seems to me that the only people that believe in law and police is middle class whites.

    I’ve seen poll after poll that says blacks in urban areas want more policing, not less. However, their voices are drowned out by the elected “leaders” who supposedly know what’s best . . .

    Does not seem so. Otherwise they would be vocal about it and vote for it. But they don’t. The people in those areas hate the police. They are tired of the police locking up their families and friends.

    So?

    So they want no police.

    I really do not understand you guys point that a community does not get policed the way it wants. Is that not how democracy is supposed to work. A group of people in a political jurisdiction gets to define how it wants to live? This group has decided the do not want police and have marched for it and voted for it. Let them have it. Best you got against is that some poll may say what you think and not the way they vote.

    Actually, the neighborhoods most impacted by high crime voted for the most pro-police candidate available in the Dem primary – Eric Adams. While Adams is a leftist – he was a police officer and at least understands the need for some active policing.

    Below is a map of the results of the first round of balloting in the Dem Primary. Soft-on-crime candidates captured Manhattan and the hipster areas of Brooklyn. But The Bronx, and high crime areas of Brooklyn voted for Adams. So those most directly impacted voted for active policing. Those least impacted wanted the least policing.

     

     

    Better. And readable.

    As we’ve learned from Men in Black, a lot of the inhabitants of Manhattan are not even human.

    That’s no excuse to vote for soft-on-crime Democrats.

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  23. Taras Coolidge
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    It seems to me that the only people that believe in law and police is middle class whites.

    I’ve seen poll after poll that says blacks in urban areas want more policing, not less. However, their voices are drowned out by the elected “leaders” who supposedly know what’s best . . .

    Does not seem so. Otherwise they would be vocal about it and vote for it. But they don’t. The people in those areas hate the police. They are tired of the police locking up their families and friends.

    So?

    So they want no police.

    I really do not understand you guys point that a community does not get policed the way it wants. Is that not how democracy is supposed to work. A group of people in a political jurisdiction gets to define how it wants to live? This group has decided the do not want police and have marched for it and voted for it. Let them have it. Best you got against is that some poll may say what you think and not the way they vote.

    Actually, the neighborhoods most impacted by high crime voted for the most pro-police candidate available in the Dem primary – Eric Adams. While Adams is a leftist – he was a police officer and at least understands the need for some active policing.

    Below is a map of the results of the first round of balloting in the Dem Primary. Soft-on-crime candidates captured Manhattan and the hipster areas of Brooklyn. But The Bronx, and high crime areas of Brooklyn voted for Adams. So those most directly impacted voted for active policing. Those least impacted wanted the least policing.

     

     

    Better. And readable.

    As we’ve learned from Men in Black, a lot of the inhabitants of Manhattan are not even human.

    That’s no excuse to vote for soft-on-crime Democrats.

    Unless they come from a planet where one normally kills and eats attackers.

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  24. kedavis Coolidge
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    It seems to me that the only people that believe in law and police is middle class whites.

    I’ve seen poll after poll that says blacks in urban areas want more policing, not less. However, their voices are drowned out by the elected “leaders” who supposedly know what’s best . . .

    Does not seem so. Otherwise they would be vocal about it and vote for it. But they don’t. The people in those areas hate the police. They are tired of the police locking up their families and friends.

    So?

    So they want no police.

    I really do not understand you guys point that a community does not get policed the way it wants. Is that not how democracy is supposed to work. A group of people in a political jurisdiction gets to define how it wants to live? This group has decided the do not want police and have marched for it and voted for it. Let them have it. Best you got against is that some poll may say what you think and not the way they vote.

    Actually, the neighborhoods most impacted by high crime voted for the most pro-police candidate available in the Dem primary – Eric Adams. While Adams is a leftist – he was a police officer and at least understands the need for some active policing.

    Below is a map of the results of the first round of balloting in the Dem Primary. Soft-on-crime candidates captured Manhattan and the hipster areas of Brooklyn. But The Bronx, and high crime areas of Brooklyn voted for Adams. So those most directly impacted voted for active policing. Those least impacted wanted the least policing.

     

     

    Better. And readable.

    As we’ve learned from Men in Black, a lot of the inhabitants of Manhattan are not even human.

    That’s no excuse to vote for soft-on-crime Democrats.

    Unless they come from a planet where one normally kills and eats attackers.

    See:  Alien Avengers, and Alien Avengers II.  (Both starring George “NORM!” Wendt.)

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  25. Fritz Coolidge
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    Ekosj (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    In this recent case, the BLM guy probably just wants to be paid off by the city.

    Excellent point. It’s the central motif of the Tom Wolfe classic about the late 60’s Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers

    GOING DOWNTOWN TO MAU-MAU THE BUREAUCRATS GOT to be the routine practice in San Francisco. The poverty program encouraged you to go in for mau-mauing. They wouldn’t have known what to do without it. The bureaucrats at City Hall and in the Office of Economic Opportunity talked “ghetto” all the time, but they didn’t know any more about what was going on in the Western Addition, Hunters Point, Potrero Hill, the Mission, Chinatown, or south of Market Street than they did about Zanzibar. They didn’t know where to look. They didn’t even know who to ask. So what could they do? Well . . . they used the Ethnic Catering Service . . . right. . . They sat back and waited for you to come rolling in with your certified angry militants, your guaranteed frustrated ghetto youth, looking like a bunch of wild men. Then you had your test confrontation. If you were outrageous enough, if you could shake up the bureaucrats so bad that their eyes froze into iceballs and their mouths twisted up into smiles of sheer physical panic, into [REDACTED]-eating grins, so to speak—then they knew you were the real goods. They knew you were the right studs to give the poverty grants and community organizing jobs to. Otherwise they wouldn’t know.

    Reminds me of the scenes in Network where Faye Dunaway’s character has the Afro’d “communist revolutionaries” in for a chat about a weekly show highlighting their mayhem provided they give her network the exclusive to cover and broadcast it —  live! and the commie leader negotiates for mo’ money.  LOL  Life imitates art.

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  26. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    It seems to me that the only people that believe in law and police is middle class whites.

    I’ve seen poll after poll that says blacks in urban areas want more policing, not less. However, their voices are drowned out by the elected “leaders” who supposedly know what’s best . . .

    Does not seem so. Otherwise they would be vocal about it and vote for it. But they don’t. The people in those areas hate the police. They are tired of the police locking up their families and friends.

    So?

    So they want no police.

    I really do not understand you guys point that a community does not get policed the way it wants. Is that not how democracy is supposed to work. A group of people in a political jurisdiction gets to define how it wants to live? This group has decided the do not want police and have marched for it and voted for it. Let them have it. Best you got against is that some poll may say what you think and not the way they vote.

    You have places like this all over the world and they are horrible.
    Favelas in Brazil work on this basis and are permanent traps of poverty, crime and hopelessness. And are reasons for social instability.

    This is your desired aim, evidently. Not mine.

    Not my aim or desire.  But we supposedly  live in a democracy where the majority vote is supposed to have its say.  I do not like it when others (especially outside my community) comes and tells me and mine how to live.  I am having a hard time understanding the Ricochetti tyrannical point of view on this.  If this was the Feds dictating then I would be against but if the local guys vote for it then no matter how stupid they should get it.  

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    It seems to me that the only people that believe in law and police is middle class whites.

    I’ve seen poll after poll that says blacks in urban areas want more policing, not less. However, their voices are drowned out by the elected “leaders” who supposedly know what’s best . . .

    Does not seem so. Otherwise they would be vocal about it and vote for it. But they don’t. The people in those areas hate the police. They are tired of the police locking up their families and friends.

    So?

    So they want no police.

    I really do not understand you guys point that a community does not get policed the way it wants. Is that not how democracy is supposed to work. A group of people in a political jurisdiction gets to define how it wants to live? This group has decided the do not want police and have marched for it and voted for it. Let them have it. Best you got against is that some poll may say what you think and not the way they vote.

    Actually, the neighborhoods most impacted by high crime voted for the most pro-police candidate available in the Dem primary – Eric Adams. While Adams is a leftist – he was a police officer and at least understands the need for some active policing.

    Below is a map of the results of the first round of balloting in the Dem Primary. Soft-on-crime candidates captured Manhattan and the hipster areas of Brooklyn. But The Bronx, and high crime areas of Brooklyn voted for Adams. So those most directly impacted voted for active policing. Those least impacted wanted the least policing.

     

    But they did not win the election did they?  

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    Communities should get what they want. If Blacks do not want police in their communities then remove police from those communities.

    For the tenth time. Most Blacks want the same or more policing. According to Gallup,

    most Black Americans — 61% — want the police presence to remain the same. This is similar to the 67% of all U.S. adults preferring the status quo, including 71% of White Americans.

    Meanwhile, nearly equal proportions of Black Americans say they would like the police to spend more time in their area (20%) as say they’d like them to spend less time there (19%).

    Blacks are obviously poorly served and poorly represented by their elites but that’s the same for every American group.

    White elites and climate change, come to mind. Most whites don’t think much about it (even white people in Europe) but the elite are willing to screw over the working and middle classes for their dumb ideology.

    The only poll that matters is an election.  You coming up with some trumped up poll is fairly meaningless.  I can pretty much get a poll to say whatever I want. 

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  29. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Communities should get what they want. If Blacks do not want police in their communities then remove police from those communities.

    For the tenth time. Most Blacks want the same or more policing. According to Gallup,

    most Black Americans — 61% — want the police presence to remain the same. This is similar to the 67% of all U.S. adults preferring the status quo, including 71% of White Americans.

    Meanwhile, nearly equal proportions of Black Americans say they would like the police to spend more time in their area (20%) as say they’d like them to spend less time there (19%).

    Blacks are obviously poorly served and poorly represented by their elites but that’s the same for every American group.

    White elites and climate change, come to mind. Most whites don’t think much about it (even white people in Europe) but the elite are willing to screw over the working and middle classes for their dumb ideology.

    The only poll that matters is an election. You coming up with some trumped up poll is fairly meaningless. I can pretty much get a poll to say whatever I want.

    I don’t think you can. Most Americans say what they think. We thankfully inherited that from the British.                        For what seemed an eternity, white conservatives wanted to police the border and the GOP establishment ignored them. i think a sinilar has happened with black-Americans and crime.

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  30. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Communities should get what they want. If Blacks do not want police in their communities then remove police from those communities.

    For the tenth time. Most Blacks want the same or more policing. According to Gallup,

    most Black Americans — 61% — want the police presence to remain the same. This is similar to the 67% of all U.S. adults preferring the status quo, including 71% of White Americans.

    Meanwhile, nearly equal proportions of Black Americans say they would like the police to spend more time in their area (20%) as say they’d like them to spend less time there (19%).

    Blacks are obviously poorly served and poorly represented by their elites but that’s the same for every American group.

    White elites and climate change, come to mind. Most whites don’t think much about it (even white people in Europe) but the elite are willing to screw over the working and middle classes for their dumb ideology.

    The only poll that matters is an election. You coming up with some trumped up poll is fairly meaningless. I can pretty much get a poll to say whatever I want.

    I don’t think you can. Most Americans say what they think. We thankfully inherited that from the British. For what seemed an eternity, white conservatives wanted to police the border and the GOP establishment ignored them. i think a similar has happened with black-Americans and crime.

    Put we keep on electing those that want open borders.  So open borders and anybody that want to be a US citizen can is what we get,  Even the GOP sainted Reagan basically rolled and granted amnesty For illegal immigrants and set up the current régime of show up and get in.   What people say or what they poll matters little.  What matters is how they vote and where they put their money and they seem to be all fine with this stuff.  So fine that even stating you are not may get you thrown out of polite company and canceled from everything else.   

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