Vaccine Passports and What’s Next

 

Forget COVID for a moment. If we accept a vaccine passport system, this is what we are agreeing to:

– We need a permission slip from the government to carry out normal life activities: working, shopping, travelling, socializing.
– The government may revoke this permission at any time by changing the criteria for it.

Raise your hand if you think that the government will use this new power in a limited and judicious way.

We’ve already seen videos from some countries and locations in the United States where people have to show their pass to get into a mall or restaurant. We’ve seen people fired from their jobs for refusing to show that they had the shot.

It started with a paper that means you’re “fully vaccinated,” but, in Israel for example, the government decided that everyone needed a booster, so it revoked the existing passports. Everyone was out in the cold again unless they took whatever additional steps were required.

Where might this lead? I notice that in most of the world the term they use is “green pass,” which does not explicitly refer to vaccinations. I note also that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has a tendency to call things “public health issues.”

For example, the CDC considers gun violence a public health issue. What if the government decides that anyone who owns a gun can’t get a green pass? Or if it can’t do that, it might rule that everyone has to attend an anti-gun training session. Or that anyone who publicly advocates for the Second Amendment is a threat to public health, so they can’t get a green pass.

Now it’s calling racism a public health issue. Suppose it decides that we have to attend a critical race theory class, or we can’t get a green pass. Or that, since speech is violence now, anyone who questions the CRT training can’t get a pass. Just imagine what it will be tempted to do if it has that power.

Actually, we don’t have to imagine it; we already know what happens when the left decides that something is necessary for the public good. Look at the indoctrination on campuses. Look at what corporate human resources departments are doing.

No green pass if you spread “misinformation.” No green pass if you misgender someone. It’ll be cancel culture with the force of law.

I see no reason to believe this this will stop with COVID shots once it gets this power. We’ll have a full-blown social credit system.

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  1. Dotorimuk Coolidge
    Dotorimuk
    @Dotorimuk

    Wait til they get you in driverless cars and tell you when and where you can/can’t go.

    Wait until we go cashless, and they can control what you are allowed to buy.

    Lots of fun on the road ahead.

    Rest assured the former BMOCs, Prom Kings and Queens who run the country will maintain and expand their range of creature comforts and wealth portfolios.

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  2. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    I wish I could say your post is hyperbole, but I can’t. It’s too close to being realized.

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  3. 9thDistrictNeighbor Member
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    @9thDistrictNeighbor

    Matt Bartle:

    Forget covid for a moment. If we accept a vaccine passport system, this is what we are agreeing to:

    – We need a permission slip from the government to carry out normal life activities: working, shopping, travelling, socializing
    – The government may revoke this permission at any time by changing the criteria for it

    This is the best, most succinct explanation.  I don’t believe I have heard anyone put it in such simple terms.  Almost like a hall pass to use the bathroom in a government school.

    Dotorimuk (View Comment):

    Wait til they get you in driverless cars and tell you when and where you can/can’t go.

    Wait until we go cashless, and they can control what you are allowed to buy.

    Lots of fun on the road ahead.

    Rest assured the former BMOCs, Prom Kings and Queens who run the country will maintain and expand their range of creature comforts and wealth portfolios.

    Some of that is already here.  Does your house have a “smart” electric meter, a smart thermostat, smart appliances?  Define smart.  Someone will and it’s apparently not you.

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  4. Ekosj Member
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    @Ekosj

    Dotorimuk (View Comment):

    Wait until we go cashless, and they can control what you are allowed to buy.

     

    This already in the works.   Every major country is currently studying “Central Bank Digital Currencies”.   Bermuda (I believe) has already issued one.    One of the unique features of these digital currencies is that they are “programable”.  It is possible to (for instance) set up a whitelist of approved purchases or a blacklist of prohibited purchases and the currency itself “knows“ what it can or can’t be spent on.

    Investment securities.   Bonds are even now being “tokenised”.  These tokens too can be programable.   Bonds only made purchasable by a whitelist of approved purchasers.   

    It’s not coming.  It’s here.

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  5. Flicker Coolidge
    Flicker
    @Flicker

    What I’ve heard speculated is not just a card or an ID pass, but a QR code on a cell phone that you have to keep with you.  (My flip phone won’t work.)  So you need it to get into a store.  And the next step is to go to an all digital currency so that you have to use your cell phone to pay for what you buy there.

    And if you don’t get your 4-week booster, your cell phone’s digital currency is cut off.

    Oh, I see this has already been covered.

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  6. EDISONPARKS Member
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    @user_54742

    Flicker (View Comment):

    What I’ve heard speculated is not just a card or an ID pass, but a QR code on a cell phone that you have to keep with you. (My flip phone won’t work.) So you need it to get into a store. And the next step is to go to an all digital currency so that you have to use your cell phone to pay for what you buy there.

    And if you don’t get your 4-week booster, your cell phone’s digital currency is cut off.

    Oh, I see this has already been covered.

    It all seems very racist to me.

    If there is some segment of the population who  (D)’s insist are unable to procure a drivers license or state ID, how are these same individuals expected to procure and operate an I-phone.

    Of course the (D) Big Brother will simply exempt people of color ….. and illegal immigrants of course.

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  7. Flicker Coolidge
    Flicker
    @Flicker

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    What I’ve heard speculated is not just a card or an ID pass, but a QR code on a cell phone that you have to keep with you. (My flip phone won’t work.) So you need it to get into a store. And the next step is to go to an all digital currency so that you have to use your cell phone to pay for what you buy there.

    And if you don’t get your 4-week booster, your cell phone’s digital currency is cut off.

    Oh, I see this has already been covered.

    It all seems very racist to me.

    If there is some segment of the population who (D)’s insist are unable to procure a drivers license or state ID, how are these same individuals expected to procure and operate an I-phone.

    Of course the (D) Big Brother will simply exempt people of color ….. and illegal immigrants of course.

    Free I-bama phones for everyone, complete with coded biometrics.

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  8. KCVolunteer Lincoln
    KCVolunteer
    @KCVolunteer

    No green pass if you spread “misinformation.” No green pass if you misgender someone. It’ll be Cancel Culture with the force of law.

    It won’t be called a green pass for long. Very soon you’ll need your multi-pass, just like Leeloo Dallas. https://youtu.be/eV_eGm1qgGs

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  9. Stad Coolidge
    Stad
    @Stad

    What’s next?  James O’Keefe strikes again.  Apparently the NJ governor has a secret plan he wants to implement once re-elected:

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/undercover-videos-reveal-nj-gov-plans-to-implement-vaccine-mandates-if-re-elected/?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=usa

    They practically admit vaccine mandates are a losing political issue . . .

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  10. Front Seat Cat Member
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    @FrontSeatCat

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    I wish I could say your post is hyperbole, but I can’t. It’s too close to being realized.

    This tracking system has been in play in China for years, including your social credit score. They literally took that blueprint – from a communist country, and are laying it across our country and the rest of Western civilization.  The communists couldn’t be more pleased.

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  11. Richard Easton Coolidge
    Richard Easton
    @RichardEaston

    Naomi Wolf and Steve Bannon have been screaming about this for at least the last six months. They’re ideological adversaries but they agree that this is a critical issue for freedom. Too many conservative leaders are asleep on this issue.

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  12. Gary Robbins Reagan
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Damn!  You made my change my mind.  Good points.

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  13. I Walton Member
    I Walton
    @IWalton

    Yep, unless  there is a fair election, which is what it’s all about so is highly unlikely.  Moreover, given China’s intentions (assuming they’re not behind it in the first place) and capacities, we won’t have a lot of time to reverse matters.  

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  14. KCVolunteer Lincoln
    KCVolunteer
    @KCVolunteer

    Michigan apparently finished public hearings on the political redistricting of the state on 10/26/21. The Michigan Independent Citizens Redistricting Commission, in charge of the redistricting, just ran an add on my local radio station announcing the citizens are invited to make public comments from 10/16 – 10/26/21. I guess they’re covered against any accusations regarding fairness, since they fulfilled the requirement to advertised the time for public comment.

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  15. MarciN Member
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    @MarciN

    Dotorimuk (View Comment):

    Wait til they get you in driverless cars and tell you when and where you can/can’t go.

    Wait until we go cashless, and they can control what you are allowed to buy.

    Lots of fun on the road ahead.

    Rest assured the former BMOCs, Prom Kings and Queens who run the country will maintain and expand their range of creature comforts and wealth portfolios.

    which will put enough money in their pocket to enable them to fly away to some remote vacation resort where they can do whatever they want to do. 

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  16. JoelB Member
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    @JoelB

    Flicker (View Comment):
    And the next step is to go to an all digital currency so that you have to use your cell phone to pay for what you buy there.

    A phone will be unnecessary. All it will take is a microchip device in the hand or on the forehead. So convenient. (Revelation 13: 16 – 17)

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  17. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf
    @DrewInWisconsin

    I’ve pretty much decided than anyone who favors proof of COVID jabs and/or mandatory COVID vax is my enemy. If you support either of these things, we are not friends. We are in opposition.

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  18. drlorentz Member
    drlorentz
    @drlorentz

    Matt Bartle: Raise your hand if you think that the government will use this new power in a limited and judicious way.

    Too late for this. The government abuses its power every day. Sadly, the power is neither new nor limited. The cool thing about having state monopoly on violence is that you get to do whatever you want. As George Washington supposedly observed,

    Government is not reason, it is not eloquence — it is force. Like fire it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action.

    Whether or not he actually said it, it’s true. 

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  19. Full Size Tabby Member
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    @FullSizeTabby

    This is why even though I have received two doses of Covid vaccine, I do not and will not visit places or establishments that would require me to prove that. Fortunately so far from my home in Texas that mostly only prevents me from traveling to New York City and certain cities in California, and from taking most cruises. I worry that airplane travel is next. Once the Powers-That-Be get people used to the concept of “showing your papers” it becomes progressively easier to add criteria to the papers. As you say, what’s next? Once the concept is established it becomes harder to keep the Powers-That-Be from adding arbitrary criteria. Even those who support universal Covid vaccination should see how easily that slippery slope can come into being. 

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  20. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):
    I worry that airplane travel is next.

    Isn’t it already? I ask because I’m not sure, but I’ve heard from enough people who say they’ll get the jab so they can travel.

    And my response is usually “why not drive?”

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  21. drlorentz Member
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    @drlorentz

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):
    I worry that airplane travel is next.

    Isn’t it already? I ask because I’m not sure, but I’ve heard from enough people who say they’ll get the jab so they can travel.

    And my response is usually “why not drive?”

    Proof of the jab is not required to fly domestically. I just got home from a leaf-peeping trip to New Hampshire.

    As for driving, what makes you think that checkpoints cannot be established on highways? California already has agricultural checkpoints at entry points, even the two-lane roads. Until they build that bridge to Hawaii, you’ll find driving there a tad moist. Never underestimate the determination of your oppressors. 

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  22. Flicker Coolidge
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    @Flicker

    JoelB (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):
    And the next step is to go to an all digital currency so that you have to use your cell phone to pay for what you buy there.

    A phone will be unnecessary. All it will take is a microchip device in the hand or on the forehead. So convenient. (Revelation 13: 16 – 17)

    I hoped they would phase that in, using the cell phone for five or ten years.  And of course there’s the possibility that I might not live long enough to see it.  If the chip has to go in the right hand, I guess I’m starving.

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  23. Flicker Coolidge
    Flicker
    @Flicker

    drlorentz (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):
    I worry that airplane travel is next.

    Isn’t it already? I ask because I’m not sure, but I’ve heard from enough people who say they’ll get the jab so they can travel.

    And my response is usually “why not drive?”

    Proof of the jab is not required to fly domestically. I just got home from a leaf-peeping trip to New Hampshire.

    As for driving, what makes you think that checkpoints cannot be established on highways? California already has agricultural checkpoints at entry points, even the two-lane roads. Until they build that bridge to Hawaii, you’ll find driving there a tad moist. Never underestimate the determination of your oppressors.

    And remember the whole point of electric cars is to control when and where they can operate.  So those crazy conspiracy theorists say.

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  24. drlorentz Member
    drlorentz
    @drlorentz

    Your future, here today. Agricultural inspection station on California state road 62 near the Arizona border at Parker. Next up: vaccine inspection checkpoints.

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  25. Gary Robbins Reagan
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    The Agriculture Inspection Stations have been up for at least 50 years, as I have been forced to stop at them every time I go to California.  I once ate a couple of oranges pulled over to the side of the station so I would not be forced to throw them away.  

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  26. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    drlorentz (View Comment):

    Your future, here today. Agricultural inspection station on California state road 62 near the Arizona border at Parker. Next up: vaccine inspection checkpoints.

     

    What the heck? What are they inspecting for?

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  27. EDISONPARKS Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    drlorentz (View Comment):

    Your future, here today. Agricultural inspection station on California state road 62 near the Arizona border at Parker. Next up: vaccine inspection checkpoints.

     

    What the heck? What are they inspecting for?

    Smuggling in non-conforming asparagus.

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  28. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    @DrewInWisconsin

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    drlorentz (View Comment):

    Your future, here today. Agricultural inspection station on California state road 62 near the Arizona border at Parker. Next up: vaccine inspection checkpoints.

     

    What the heck? What are they inspecting for?

    Smuggling in non-conforming asparagus.

    I don’t even think you’re joking.

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  29. EDISONPARKS Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    drlorentz (View Comment):

    Your future, here today. Agricultural inspection station on California state road 62 near the Arizona border at Parker. Next up: vaccine inspection checkpoints.

    What the heck? What are they inspecting for?

    Smuggling in non-conforming asparagus.

    I don’t even think you’re joking.

    I have always assumed that is why California had AG border inspections …. but I’m just guessing ….

    Moreover, I have no idea what would make a vegetable non-conforming which would require a vegetable border inspection regime.

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  30. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf
    @DrewInWisconsin

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Moreover, I have no idea what would make a vegetable non-conforming that would require a vegetable border inspection regime.

    Asparagus are “known to the state of California” to be too phallic.

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