Vax Mandates a Purge of Conservatives

 

This morning, I was listening to the local radio guy, BloomDaddy.  One of his daily features is a debate between opposing sides – often Republican vs Democrat.  This morning, he asked the question if Vax mandates are a method to purge or cleanse the ranks of government agencies and large corporations of conservatives.

Both Republican and Democrat debaters acknowledged that those who oppose the vax mandates tend to be more conservative, and religious.  Where they differed in opinion was the Republican noted one of the intents of vax mandates was to get large numbers of conservatives to resign, withdraw and remove themselves from public service and life, and to replace them with new hires that were compliant with the vax mandate and who also would tend to be more liberal.  The implicit goal was to create a workforce — in government agencies, the military complex, and corporations — that was more consistently liberal in makeup.

The Democrat was spitting about he would not even justify a conspiracy theory like that on a government mandate and it was un-American to tell businesses how they should operate (i.e., not be able to mandate a vax as a condition for employment).

I have been puzzled by the vehement insistence of these mandates, and the demonization of those opposed, and the premise posited above is the most logical explanation. Clearly, it is not about public safety, those who are vaxxed should not have any concern about those unvaxxed (if the vaxxes worked, right?). And those who opt to not get vaxxed are not worried about their statistical risk of death of less than 99.95 percent if they feel healthy and young.

Occam’s razor seems perfectly suited to explain the strategy behind the Liberal Socialists mandating this vax, and demonizing those conservatives who resist.

The conundrum is that conservatives are opting to be purged, because they are resisting the vax, thereby fulfilling the goal of the liberals of purging them.

Hmmm… Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

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  1. DonG (CAGW is a hoax) Coolidge
    DonG (CAGW is a hoax)
    @DonG

    We need a mandate for an anti-communist vaccine.  

    • #1
  2. JosePluma, Local Man of Mystery Thatcher
    JosePluma, Local Man of Mystery
    @JosePluma

    As a bonus, it gets rid of a lot of those pesky African-Americans, too.

    • #2
  3. Nohaaj Coolidge
    Nohaaj
    @Nohaaj

    Anything is now grounds for firing, even being anti-mask is cause for dismissal.  

    Beatings will continue until morale improves. 

    • #3
  4. cdor Member
    cdor
    @cdor

    BUT…………….if the vaccine is as dangerous as some say (those would be mostly conservatives doin’ the sayin’) then by rushing to get jabbed, the leftists could be essentially eliminating themselves. In ten years, when the long-term effects of the vaccines begin showing, it will be the lefties who start dropping like flies. That would leave the conservatives as the last men and women standing.

    • #4
  5. Nohaaj Coolidge
    Nohaaj
    @Nohaaj

    cdor (View Comment):

    BUT…………….if the vaccine is as dangerous as some say (those would be mostly conservatives doin’ the sayin’) then by rushing to get jabbed, the leftists could be essentially eliminating themselves. In ten years, when the long-term effects of the vaccines begin showing, it will be the lefties who start dropping like flies. That would lead the conservatives as the last men and women standing.

    Playing the long game, eh… I wouldn’t wish that on anyone,,, really I wouldn’t. But one can dream…

    Seriously, this doesn’t address the value of natural immunity, nor of freedom, both of which are distinct and real benefits – and rights, that should be part of the basis for policy and personal decision making. 

    • #5
  6. Nohaaj Coolidge
    Nohaaj
    @Nohaaj

    And remember you are not fully vaccinated until you receive two shots. 

     

    and a booster,

     

    and a FOURTH shot

    especially recommended for “pregnant people” 

    A third COVID-19 vaccine shot is classified as an “additional dose,” and the CDC recommends an additional mRNA vaccine dose for pregnant people who are moderately to severely immunocompromised and for those who are more than 12 years old and have moderate to severe immune compromise.

    • #6
  7. Old Bathos Moderator
    Old Bathos
    @OldBathos

    I don’t think they planned it ahead of time but it is clearly seen as an added benefit now.  The problem was that government set out to “solve” COVID-19 and can’t admit that it was a complete failure.  Lockdowns and closures were a bust.  Mask mandates made no difference.  The vaccine does not stop the spread.  None of this is a surprise for anyone outside the bubble but like the War on Poverty, Vietnam, or the mortgage-default-driven financial collapse, nobody could admit that the operant strategy was bogus. 

    The entire hive-mind that is now half of America feared being shown to be wrong and the knuckle-draggers to be right much more than even their over-hyped fear of COVID.  They seized on vaccinations the way they condemned places where freedom prevailed–everyone not part of the hive-mind is causing the pandemic to persist.  People making choices conflicts with the narrative.

    It is weird for me as a conservative to find myself envying the Swedes (I scored a tall blonde knockout for my permanent girlfriend a long time ago so that is not a factor in my envy).  No lockdowns, mandates, or BS and they appear to have acquired herd immunity faster than us–at far less cost in lives and treasure.  As liberals actually openly attack public school parents in Virginia, the Swedes send 50% of kids to private schools on vouchers–and the competition made the state-run schools much better as well.  

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  8. Nohaaj Coolidge
    Nohaaj
    @Nohaaj

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    I don’t think they planned it ahead of time but it is clearly seen as an added benefit now. The problem was that government set out to “solve” COVID-19 and can’t admit that it was a complete failure. Lockdowns and closures were a bust. Mask mandates made no difference. The vaccine does not stop the spread. None of this is a surprise for anyone outside the bubble but like the War on Poverty, Vietnam, or the mortgage-default-driven financial collapse, nobody could admit that the operant strategy was bogus.

    The entire hive-mind that is now half of America feared being shown to be wrong and the knuckle-draggers to be right much more than even their over-hyped fear of COVID. They seized on vaccinations the way they condemned places where freedom prevailed–everyone not part of the hive-mind is causing the pandemic to persist. People making choices conflicts with the narrative.

    It is weird for me as a conservative to find myself envying the Swedes (I scored a tall blonde knockout for my permanent girlfriend a long time ago so that is not a factor in my envy). No lockdowns, mandates, or BS and they appear to have acquired herd immunity faster than us–at far less cost in lives and treasure. As liberals actually openly attack public school parents in Virginia, the Swedes send 50% of kids to private schools on vouchers–and the competition made the state-run schools much better as well.

    I agree with your assessment that it might not have been pre-planned, but is surely seen as a benefit now, and further drives their incessant demand for mandate compliance. 

    I also am happy that a tall blond knockout chose you.  For the record, as much as we men fantasize about our ability to score with the women, it is always the women who decide. 

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  9. Old Bathos Moderator
    Old Bathos
    @OldBathos

    Nohaaj (View Comment):
    I also am happy that a tall blond knockout chose you.  For the record, as much as we men fantasize about our ability to score with the women, it is always the women who decide. 

    I thank evolution that women have such impaired judgment so as to make such pairing possible.

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  10. Douglas Pratt Coolidge
    Douglas Pratt
    @DouglasPratt

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    (snip)

    It is weird for me as a conservative to find myself envying the Swedes (I scored a tall blonde knockout for my permanent girlfriend a long time ago so that is not a factor in my envy). No lockdowns, mandates, or BS and they appear to have acquired herd immunity faster than us–at far less cost in lives and treasure. As liberals actually openly attack public school parents in Virginia, the Swedes send 50% of kids to private schools on vouchers–and the competition made the state-run schools much better as well.

    I’ll get enthusiastic about Swedish chocolate, the chance to fire a Karl Gustav, and anything involving bikinis.

    The trouble with comparing the US to Sweden or any other European country is that we are not Europeans. Lefties love trains. Trains don’t work in the USA for two reasons: 1: the country is huge compared to Europe, and 2: Americans want to leave when they damn well want to, arrive when they damn well please, and take the route that they damn well prefer. I won’t deny that we are control freaks, but American individualism is a big part of America, in large part because the country is big enough for it. Elbow room, said Dan’l Boone.

    • #10
  11. Nohaaj Coolidge
    Nohaaj
    @Nohaaj

    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    (snip)

    It is weird for me as a conservative to find myself envying the Swedes (I scored a tall blonde knockout for my permanent girlfriend a long time ago so that is not a factor in my envy). No lockdowns, mandates, or BS and they appear to have acquired herd immunity faster than us–at far less cost in lives and treasure. As liberals actually openly attack public school parents in Virginia, the Swedes send 50% of kids to private schools on vouchers–and the competition made the state-run schools much better as well.

    I’ll get enthusiastic about Swedish chocolate, the chance to fire a Karl Gustav, and anything involving bikinis.

    The trouble with comparing the US to Sweden or any other European country is that we are not Europeans. Lefties love trains. Trains don’t work in the USA for two reasons: 1: the country is huge compared to Europe, and 2: Americans want to leave when they damn well want to, arrive when they damn well please, and take the route that they damn well prefer. I won’t deny that we are control freaks, but American individualism is a big part of America, in large part because the country is big enough for it. Elbow room, said Dan’l Boone.

    Doug, you changed the topic.  This is not about trains, or the size of the country. Your second point, about American individualism speaks more to Old Bathos’ envy of the Swedish model of how to handle the Whoo Hoo Flu.  Shouldn’t we as Americans prefer no lockdowns, no mandates, of BS, and school vouchers that create competition to improve the entire education process? 

    • #11
  12. Old Bathos Moderator
    Old Bathos
    @OldBathos

    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    (snip)

    It is weird for me as a conservative to find myself envying the Swedes (I scored a tall blonde knockout for my permanent girlfriend a long time ago so that is not a factor in my envy). No lockdowns, mandates, or BS and they appear to have acquired herd immunity faster than us–at far less cost in lives and treasure. As liberals actually openly attack public school parents in Virginia, the Swedes send 50% of kids to private schools on vouchers–and the competition made the state-run schools much better as well.

    I’ll get enthusiastic about Swedish chocolate, the chance to fire a Karl Gustav, and anything involving bikinis.

    The trouble with comparing the US to Sweden or any other European country is that we are not Europeans. Lefties love trains. Trains don’t work in the USA for two reasons: 1: the country is huge compared to Europe, and 2: Americans want to leave when they damn well want to, arrive when they damn well please, and take the route that they damn well prefer. I won’t deny that we are control freaks, but American individualism is a big part of America, in large part because the country is big enough for it. Elbow room, said Dan’l Boone.

    Boone reportedly said he knew it was time to move if he could see the smoke from a neighbor’s chimney. Our concept of elbow room has changed. 

    My grandfather was born in Minneapolis, moved across the country working in railroad construction for his contractor father, attended Washington State, and then moved east to run a company based in New England.  There is something typical in that–getting to the western edge past undeveloped places and then, having done so, move to urban areas for the new American non-agriculture-based economy.

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  13. Douglas Pratt Coolidge
    Douglas Pratt
    @DouglasPratt

    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    (snip)

    It is weird for me as a conservative to find myself envying the Swedes (I scored a tall blonde knockout for my permanent girlfriend a long time ago so that is not a factor in my envy). No lockdowns, mandates, or BS and they appear to have acquired herd immunity faster than us–at far less cost in lives and treasure. As liberals actually openly attack public school parents in Virginia, the Swedes send 50% of kids to private schools on vouchers–and the competition made the state-run schools much better as well.

    I’ll get enthusiastic about Swedish chocolate, the chance to fire a Karl Gustav, and anything involving bikinis.

    The trouble with comparing the US to Sweden or any other European country is that we are not Europeans. Lefties love trains. Trains don’t work in the USA for two reasons: 1: the country is huge compared to Europe, and 2: Americans want to leave when they damn well want to, arrive when they damn well please, and take the route that they damn well prefer. I won’t deny that we are control freaks, but American individualism is a big part of America, in large part because the country is big enough for it. Elbow room, said Dan’l Boone.

    Doug, you changed the topic. This is not about trains, or the size of the country. Your second point, about American individualism speaks more to Old Bathos’ envy of the Swedish model of how to handle the Whoo Hoo Flu. Shouldn’t we as Americans prefer no lockdowns, no mandates, of BS, and school vouchers that create competition to improve the entire education process?

    Sorry. I wanted to make a cornball comment about Sweden.

    We as Americans should prefer no lockdowns, no mandates, and school vouchers. Absolutely. We should have access to reliable information that allows us to make decisions that suit us. I feel the same way about abortion, which outrages some of my friends, but you are either free or you aren’t. That’s why I strongly resent the manipulators of information.

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  14. Nohaaj Coolidge
    Nohaaj
    @Nohaaj

    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):

    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    (snip)

    It is weird for me as a conservative to find myself envying the Swedes (I scored a tall blonde knockout for my permanent girlfriend a long time ago so that is not a factor in my envy). No lockdowns, mandates, or BS and they appear to have acquired herd immunity faster than us–at far less cost in lives and treasure. As liberals actually openly attack public school parents in Virginia, the Swedes send 50% of kids to private schools on vouchers–and the competition made the state-run schools much better as well.

    I’ll get enthusiastic about Swedish chocolate, the chance to fire a Karl Gustav, and anything involving bikinis.

    The trouble with comparing the US to Sweden or any other European country is that we are not Europeans. Lefties love trains. Trains don’t work in the USA for two reasons: 1: the country is huge compared to Europe, and 2: Americans want to leave when they damn well want to, arrive when they damn well please, and take the route that they damn well prefer. I won’t deny that we are control freaks, but American individualism is a big part of America, in large part because the country is big enough for it. Elbow room, said Dan’l Boone.

    Doug, you changed the topic. This is not about trains, or the size of the country. Your second point, about American individualism speaks more to Old Bathos’ envy of the Swedish model of how to handle the Whoo Hoo Flu. Shouldn’t we as Americans prefer no lockdowns, no mandates, of BS, and school vouchers that create competition to improve the entire education process?

    Sorry. I wanted to make a cornball comment about Sweden.

    We as Americans should prefer no lockdowns, no mandates, and school vouchers. Absolutely. We should have access to reliable information that allows us to make decisions that suit us. I feel the same way about abortion, which outrages some of my friends, but you are either free or you aren’t. That’s why I strongly resent the manipulators of information.

    LOL, your comment seemed out of character to me.  I missed the “cornball” font. 

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  15. KCVolunteer Lincoln
    KCVolunteer
    @KCVolunteer

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    It is weird for me as a conservative to find myself envying the Swedes (I scored a tall blonde knockout for my permanent girlfriend a long time ago so that is not a factor in my envy). No lockdowns, mandates, or BS and they appear to have acquired herd immunity faster than us–at far less cost in lives and treasure. As liberals actually openly attack public school parents in Virginia, the Swedes send 50% of kids to private schools on vouchers–and the competition made the state-run schools much better as well.

    At least on these points I could agree with the left, we should be more like Sweden.

    • #15
  16. Old Bathos Moderator
    Old Bathos
    @OldBathos

    KCVolunteer (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    It is weird for me as a conservative to find myself envying the Swedes (I scored a tall blonde knockout for my permanent girlfriend a long time ago so that is not a factor in my envy). No lockdowns, mandates, or BS and they appear to have acquired herd immunity faster than us–at far less cost in lives and treasure. As liberals actually openly attack public school parents in Virginia, the Swedes send 50% of kids to private schools on vouchers–and the competition made the state-run schools much better as well.

    At least on these points I could agree with the left, we should be more like Sweden.

    But the left is oblivious to these facts or that prior to the Trump tax reforms, the corporate tax burden was lower in “socialist” Sweden, and that there is no property tax.  

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  17. Flicker Coolidge
    Flicker
    @Flicker

    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    BUT…………….if the vaccine is as dangerous as some say (those would be mostly conservatives doin’ the sayin’) then by rushing to get jabbed, the leftists could be essentially eliminating themselves. In ten years, when the long-term effects of the vaccines begin showing, it will be the lefties who start dropping like flies. That would lead the conservatives as the last men and women standing.

    Playing the long game, eh… I wouldn’t wish that on anyone,,, really I wouldn’t. But one can dream…

    Seriously, this doesn’t address the value of natural immunity, nor of freedom, both of which are distinct and real benefits – and rights, that should be part of the basis for policy and personal decision making.

    If natural immunity is more or less equal to, or even as I’ve read superior to, vaccine immunity, then the only reason that vaccine mandates exist are to get everyone vaccinated regardless of efficacy.  I can think of two possible reasons for this, and the most benign reason I can think of is selling vaccines.  And also this could inadvertently affect blacks and conservatives and contrarian types, by purging them from society.

    To ask if this is deliberate is too specific a question.  The better question is, Why is the government allowing this these adverse and otherwise discriminatory affects that are well known?  I think the answer is connected to other English-speaking countries in which this affect is not only known but approved by government officials.

    And then there is the more fundamental point.  If such a fracturing societal exclusion is the result, why would government officials promote this despite the efficacy of the measures being not scientifically proven?

    • #17
  18. kedavis Member
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    BUT…………….if the vaccine is as dangerous as some say (those would be mostly conservatives doin’ the sayin’) then by rushing to get jabbed, the leftists could be essentially eliminating themselves. In ten years, when the long-term effects of the vaccines begin showing, it will be the lefties who start dropping like flies. That would lead the conservatives as the last men and women standing.

    Playing the long game, eh… I wouldn’t wish that on anyone,,, really I wouldn’t. But one can dream…

    Seriously, this doesn’t address the value of natural immunity, nor of freedom, both of which are distinct and real benefits – and rights, that should be part of the basis for policy and personal decision making.

    If natural immunity is more or less equal to, or even as I’ve read superior to, vaccine immunity, then the only reason that vaccine mandates exist are to get everyone vaccinated regardless of efficacy. I can think of two possible reasons for this, and the most benign reason I can think of is selling vaccines. And also this could inadvertently affect blacks and conservatives and contrarian types, by purging them from society.

    To ask if this is deliberate is too specific a question. The better question is, Why is the government allowing this these adverse and otherwise discriminatory affects that are well known? I think the answer is connected to other English-speaking countries in which this affect is not only known but approved by government officials.

    And then there is the more fundamental point. If such a fracturing societal exclusion is the result, why would government officials promote this despite the efficacy of the measures being not scientifically proven?

    Among other things, don’t underestimate the ability of some people to believe things that aren’t true/proven, such as vaccine efficacy.  They’ll push for mandates because they BELIEVE the vaccines are safe and effective, even if not proven to be so.

     

    • #18
  19. kedavis Member
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    @kedavis

    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    And remember you are not fully vaccinated until you receive two shots.

     

    and a booster,

     

    and a FOURTH shot!

    especially recommended for “pregnant people”

    A third COVID-19 vaccine shot is classified as an “additional dose,” and the CDC recommends an additional mRNA vaccine dose for pregnant people who are moderately to severely immunocompromised and for those who are more than 12 years old and have moderate to severe immune compromise.

    This part never makes sense to me.  If a vaccine is supposed to “program” or “prepare” someone’s immune system against a certain virus, doesn’t that require a pretty healthy immune system to begin with?  And it would seem to increase the risk of complications such as a cytokine storm, if a person’s immune system is already “wonky.”

    • #19
  20. Old Bathos Moderator
    Old Bathos
    @OldBathos

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Among other things, don’t underestimate the ability of some people to believe things that aren’t true/proven, such as vaccine efficacy.  They’ll push for mandates because they BELIEVE the vaccines are safe and effective, even if not proven to be so.

    Expecting vaccines to stop the spread is like the Paris Climate accords or “antiracism”–marginal benefits (if any) achieved at high social cost which costs are never borne by the laptop class who also glean ideologically-driven self-esteem boosts from the framing.

    • #20
  21. Jimmy Carter Member
    Jimmy Carter
    @JimmyCarter

    I’m scheduled tomorrow to receive My fifth placebo shot.

    • #21
  22. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
    Fake John/Jane Galt
    @FakeJohnJaneGalt

    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    And remember you are not fully vaccinated until you receive two shots.

     

    and a booster,

     

    and a FOURTH shot!

    especially recommended for “pregnant people”

    A third COVID-19 vaccine shot is classified as an “additional dose,” and the CDC recommends an additional mRNA vaccine dose for pregnant people who are moderately to severely immunocompromised and for those who are more than 12 years old and have moderate to severe immune compromise.

    I suspect we will end up with 6 month shot intervals for a regiment of drugs and then health requirements and protocols to reduce the cost of health care.  

    • #22
  23. Jim McConnell Member
    Jim McConnell
    @JimMcConnell

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Among other things, don’t underestimate the ability of some people to believe things that aren’t true/proven, such as vaccine efficacy. They’ll push for mandates because they BELIEVE the vaccines are safe and effective, even if not proven to be so.

    Expecting vaccines to stop the spread is like the Paris Climate accords or “antiracism”–marginal benefits (if any) achieved at high social cost which costs are never borne by the laptop class who also glean ideologically-driven self-esteem boosts from the framing.

    Exactly!

    • #23
  24. Brian Clendinen Member
    Brian Clendinen
    @BrianClendinen

    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    (snip)

    It is weird for me as a conservative to find myself envying the Swedes (I scored a tall blonde knockout for my permanent girlfriend a long time ago so that is not a factor in my envy). No lockdowns, mandates, or BS and they appear to have acquired herd immunity faster than us–at far less cost in lives and treasure. As liberals actually openly attack public school parents in Virginia, the Swedes send 50% of kids to private schools on vouchers–and the competition made the state-run schools much better as well.

    I’ll get enthusiastic about Swedish chocolate, the chance to fire a Karl Gustav, and anything involving bikinis.

    The trouble with comparing the US to Sweden or any other European country is that we are not Europeans. Lefties love trains. Trains don’t work in the USA for two reasons: 1: the country is huge compared to Europe, and 2: Americans want to leave when they damn well want to, arrive when they damn well please, and take the route that they damn well prefer. I won’t deny that we are control freaks, but American individualism is a big part of America, in large part because the country is big enough for it. Elbow room, said Dan’l Boone.

    Sorry but that is a fundamental miss understaning on trains. We dont have less track, we just use it differently. We use it on what pays aka freight. Europeans heavily subsidize there passager trians and only due a fraction of % freight on their rail lines compared to us. So we have cheaper shipping cost for heavy none parshible items than they due and little (% wise) of crony capitalistic transfer of funds.

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  25. Flicker Coolidge
    Flicker
    @Flicker

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    BUT…………….if the vaccine is as dangerous as some say (those would be mostly conservatives doin’ the sayin’) then by rushing to get jabbed, the leftists could be essentially eliminating themselves. In ten years, when the long-term effects of the vaccines begin showing, it will be the lefties who start dropping like flies. That would lead the conservatives as the last men and women standing.

    Playing the long game, eh… I wouldn’t wish that on anyone,,, really I wouldn’t. But one can dream…

    Seriously, this doesn’t address the value of natural immunity, nor of freedom, both of which are distinct and real benefits – and rights, that should be part of the basis for policy and personal decision making.

    If natural immunity is more or less equal to, or even as I’ve read superior to, vaccine immunity, then the only reason that vaccine mandates exist are to get everyone vaccinated regardless of efficacy. I can think of two possible reasons for this, and the most benign reason I can think of is selling vaccines. And also this could inadvertently affect blacks and conservatives and contrarian types, by purging them from society.

    To ask if this is deliberate is too specific a question. The better question is, Why is the government allowing this these adverse and otherwise discriminatory affects that are well known? I think the answer is connected to other English-speaking countries in which this affect is not only known but approved by government officials.

    And then there is the more fundamental point. If such a fracturing societal exclusion is the result, why would government officials promote this despite the efficacy of the measures being not scientifically proven?

    Among other things, don’t underestimate the ability of some people to believe things that aren’t true/proven, such as vaccine efficacy. They’ll push for mandates because they BELIEVE the vaccines are safe and effective, even if not proven to be so.

    True.  But isn’t it their job to find out?

    • #25
  26. Flicker Coolidge
    Flicker
    @Flicker

    Jimmy Carter (View Comment):

    I’m scheduled tomorrow to receive My fifth placebo shot.

    Lucky skunk.

    • #26
  27. kedavis Member
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Flicker (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    BUT…………….if the vaccine is as dangerous as some say (those would be mostly conservatives doin’ the sayin’) then by rushing to get jabbed, the leftists could be essentially eliminating themselves. In ten years, when the long-term effects of the vaccines begin showing, it will be the lefties who start dropping like flies. That would lead the conservatives as the last men and women standing.

    Playing the long game, eh… I wouldn’t wish that on anyone,,, really I wouldn’t. But one can dream…

    Seriously, this doesn’t address the value of natural immunity, nor of freedom, both of which are distinct and real benefits – and rights, that should be part of the basis for policy and personal decision making.

    If natural immunity is more or less equal to, or even as I’ve read superior to, vaccine immunity, then the only reason that vaccine mandates exist are to get everyone vaccinated regardless of efficacy. I can think of two possible reasons for this, and the most benign reason I can think of is selling vaccines. And also this could inadvertently affect blacks and conservatives and contrarian types, by purging them from society.

    To ask if this is deliberate is too specific a question. The better question is, Why is the government allowing this these adverse and otherwise discriminatory affects that are well known? I think the answer is connected to other English-speaking countries in which this affect is not only known but approved by government officials.

    And then there is the more fundamental point. If such a fracturing societal exclusion is the result, why would government officials promote this despite the efficacy of the measures being not scientifically proven?

    Among other things, don’t underestimate the ability of some people to believe things that aren’t true/proven, such as vaccine efficacy. They’ll push for mandates because they BELIEVE the vaccines are safe and effective, even if not proven to be so.

    True. But isn’t it their job to find out?

    They probably don’t think they need to, if they already believe it.

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  28. I Walton Member
    I Walton
    @IWalton

    That is what is happening.  The country is being destroyed, the economy will begin to decline in the not too distant future, China will exploit it in some way and so will other enemies and friends, but it won’t work, because there was order projected by the existence of the US, and that order allowed economic growth.  China will not be able to replace that, and disorder, some wars, or military disputes almost certainly, but economic decline will follow.  Some post Biden Democrat government will have been imposed and the US will be helpless, but perhaps even start a war.  I don’t think folks, and certainly not Democrats understand any of this.  

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  29. Roderic Reagan
    Roderic
    @rhfabian

    The idea that anti-vaxxers are conservatives is a total myth.  The biggest group of vaccine avoiders are African-Americans. 

    If you dream up a conspiracy theory then a purge of black people from government is the more likely conspiracy. 

    Conservatives are against mandates, but most of them get vaccinated regardless.  

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  30. KCVolunteer Lincoln
    KCVolunteer
    @KCVolunteer

    I Walton (View Comment):

    That is what is happening. The country is being destroyed, the economy will begin to decline in the not too distant future, China will exploit it in some way and so will other enemies and friends, but it won’t work, because there was order projected by the existence of the US, and that order allowed economic growth. China will not be able to replace that, and disorder, some wars, or military disputes almost certainly, but economic decline will follow. Some post Biden Democrat government will have been imposed and the US will be helpless, but perhaps even start a war. I don’t think folks, and certainly not Democrats understand any of this.

    The Democrat motto should be, ‘Dystopian Futures R Us’.

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