Things Are Heating Up in the South China Sea

 

I believe that we will be in a war with China within a decade. I think that its best bet is to wait for our inevitable sectarian civil war. However, Biden is clearly so compromised, and there are such clear ties to China, I think maybe the time is now. When you add in things like Evergrande failing, maybe China has to move now.

And why not go for the brass ring and attack Taiwan?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10063171/China-warns-World-War-Three-triggered-time.html

China is an evil nation, run by evil people, that does evil things. We should stand against it.

But evil people in our nation want all the money they can get.

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  1. Old Bathos Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Fourth, limit visas for the children of CCP officials to come to the U.S. 

    Fifth, allow Chinese students to stay in the U.S. after they graduate.

    Not sure that would work.  they would not have a visa to be here unless (a) there were already vetted for ideological deviance and (b) they had family that would effectively be hostages.  Or worse, they might be potential democracy lovers but time spent at a US university would horrify them into thinking the West is a basket case.

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  2. Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):

    I actually think China is about to implode. Enormous internal debts, collapsing companies… And the new emphasis on returning to Maoism will terrify away all external capital.

    I agree 100%.

    That is why they will lash out.

    The Russo-Japanese war is the first historical analogy that comes to me. Of course for that to work you need a target that allows you to pick up an easy win, or at least that’s the idea.

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  3. Dbroussa Coolidge
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    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):

    Dbroussa (View Comment):
    First off, I don’t think that “everyone” agrees that Taiwan will and should be reunited with China. I’m fairly certain that the Taiwanese don’t want that.

    It depends on the conditions under which it happens.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I fully support this condition.  LOL!

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  4. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    Not sure at this point if China’s senior military command is too political and ours is too corrupt or ours is too political and theirs is too corrupt. [This might be the time when someone will reminded me of the power of “and.”]

    Terrifying thought that the last time all the world’s great powers had militaries run by morons millions died in the trenches.

    Yeah

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  5. Dbroussa Coolidge
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    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):

    Another possibility.

    Worth the quick read.

    That is a possibility, but has some major drawbacks.  The first one is that invasion of Taiwan has a patina of legitimacy since China’s stated goal has been to reunite it with the mainland.

    The second major problem is that projecting their force that far exposes them significantly more than just to Taiwan.  In fact, Taiwan would be in a unique space to threaten their supply lines both by sea and air with their air power.

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  6. Dbroussa Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I have five ideas.

    FIrst, I would suggest that a sale of the super quiet nuclear powered subs to Taiwan would help them stave off landing crafts. Taiwan is 110 miles or so from the Chinese border, and these subs could sink a bunch of Chinese ships.

    Agree on this, also sell them Aegis systems for their navy, and Patriot missiles for air defense.

    Second, would be for us to join the Trans-Pacific Partnership asap, whose goal was to be a check on China.

    Maybe, that deal has be good for the US.  On the other hand, enacting a trade deal just with Taiwan might be easy to accomplish.

    Third, offer special visas to the people of Hong Kong to come to the United States. Trump and Biden totally did not make China pay for swallowing Hong Kong. The Hong Kong people are amazingly industrious. We need more of them here.

    Well, we can trace that back to the 90s, but it wasn’t like the UK was going to war with China over HK back then.  We certainly missed the opportunity to offer a more full throated support and even get the UN involved and force China to use their Security Council veto.

    Fourth, limit visas for the children of CCP officials to come to the U.S.

    We might need to limit or even end Chinese student visas completely.  It has been reported that many of the visas that were to supposedly regular students, were to CCP children.  Until we can get a handle on that, and honestly how can one trust the Chinese to not lie, we need to greatly curtail their access.

    Fifth, allow Chinese students to stay in the U.S. after they graduate.

    Maybe, see my response to #4.

    What other ways can China be checked in its desire to swallow Taiwan?

    Perhaps we should look at moving the home port of much of Seventh Fleet in Taiwan as opposed to Sasebo even if its just temporary.  I’d also move USAF and potentially ground troops to Taiwan.  That places them directly in a location to quickly defend Taiwan if needed as well as making it clear that the US will fight to defend Taiwan.  Well, except that we have Biden as President and we know he is willing to cut and run at the drop of a hat.

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  7. Dbroussa Coolidge
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    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):

    I actually think China is about to implode. Enormous internal debts, collapsing companies… And the new emphasis on returning to Maoism will terrify away all external capital.

    I agree 100%.

    That is why they will lash out.

    The Russo-Japanese war is the first historical analogy that comes to me. Of course for that to work you need a target that allows you to pick up an easy win, or at least that’s the idea.

    “What this country needs is a short, victorious War to stem the tide of revolution” – Vyacheslav Konstantinovich von Plehve

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  8. Flicker Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):

    I actually think China is about to implode. Enormous internal debts, collapsing companies… And the new emphasis on returning to Maoism will terrify away all external capital.

    I agree 100%.

    That is why they will lash out.

    Do you think they hope to succeed, or go out in a blaze of glory?

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  9. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    Dbroussa (View Comment):

    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):

    I actually think China is about to implode. Enormous internal debts, collapsing companies… And the new emphasis on returning to Maoism will terrify away all external capital.

    I agree 100%.

    That is why they will lash out.

    The Russo-Japanese war is the first historical analogy that comes to me. Of course for that to work you need a target that allows you to pick up an easy win, or at least that’s the idea.

    “What this country needs is a short, victorious War to stem the tide of revolution” – Vyacheslav Konstantinovich von Plehve

    I suspect the Argentine Junta thought along the same lines in the early ’80s. 

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  10. kedavis Coolidge
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    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    Dbroussa (View Comment):

    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):

    I actually think China is about to implode. Enormous internal debts, collapsing companies… And the new emphasis on returning to Maoism will terrify away all external capital.

    I agree 100%.

    That is why they will lash out.

    The Russo-Japanese war is the first historical analogy that comes to me. Of course for that to work you need a target that allows you to pick up an easy win, or at least that’s the idea.

    “What this country needs is a short, victorious War to stem the tide of revolution” – Vyacheslav Konstantinovich von Plehve

    I suspect the Argentine Junta thought along the same lines in the early ’80s.

    Argentina had to deal with Thatcher.  And Reagan.  China only has to deal with Biden.

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  11. Percival Thatcher
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    iWe (View Comment):

    I actually think China is about to implode. Enormous internal debts, collapsing companies… And the new emphasis on returning to Maoism will terrify away all external capital.

    This guy agrees: “Why China is so Dangerous.”

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  12. Bishop Wash Member
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    Dbroussa (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I have five ideas.

    Fifth, allow Chinese students to stay in the U.S. after they graduate.

    Maybe, see my response to #4.

    It could work, but China could just recruit them later and return them home.

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  13. Percival Thatcher
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    I didn’t know of Paul Monk, but as the former head of China analysis for the Australian Department of Defence* he is definitely worth listening to.


    * Aussies spell funny. I blame the pommies.

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  14. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    Percival (View Comment):

    I didn’t know of Paul Monk, but as the former head of China analysis for the Australian Department of Defence* he is definitely worth listening to.


    * Aussies spell funny. I blame the pommies.

    Worth viewing.  More optimistic than I am. 

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  15. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Need some optimism. 

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