Never Say ‘Yes’ to Strangers and Other Scam Hacks

 

“Hello, this is Leila. Can you hear me alright?” the bright and cheery voice on the other end of the phone started the conversation.

“I can,” I replied.

There was a click on the other end.

“Hello? Are you still there?” I asked. Nothing.

Had she been expecting a different voice? Or had she been hoping I would say, “Yes.” I have heard about cons where someone calls one up and gets one to say, “Yes,” and then the perpetrator will ship something out and say they had recorded authorization to do so, and present a recording with a different question and one’s “Yes” to the scam question. I have no idea if it is true. On the other hand, I am very careful what I say on phones so that something like that can’t happen.

Have you heard about other scams, telephone or otherwise? Is there an easy way to avoid the scam?

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  1. Stina Inactive
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):
    My Very Eager Mother Just Served Us Nachos

    What?? Without Provolone?

    It’s the updated and more authentic version.

    Aren’t you still complaining about Ceres being dropped from the list of planets?

    When was it added? Isn’t that a moon of Jupiter?

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  2. kedavis Coolidge
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    Stina (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):
    My Very Eager Mother Just Served Us Nachos

    What?? Without Provolone?

    It’s the updated and more authentic version.

    Aren’t you still complaining about Ceres being dropped from the list of planets?

    When was it added? Isn’t that a moon of Jupiter?

    Ceres is in the asteroid belt.

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  3. Bishop Wash Member
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    Stina (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):
    My Very Eager Mother Just Served Us Nachos

    What?? Without Provolone?

    It’s the updated and more authentic version.

    Aren’t you still complaining about Ceres being dropped from the list of planets?

    When was it added? Isn’t that a moon of Jupiter?

    It’s an asteroid discovered in 1801 and called a planet at first. In the 1850s more asteroids were discovered and it got demoted to asteroid. It was reclassified as a dwarf planet when Pluto was demoted.

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  4. BDB Inactive
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Stina (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):
    My Very Eager Mother Just Served Us Nachos

    What?? Without Provolone?

    It’s the updated and more authentic version.

    Aren’t you still complaining about Ceres being dropped from the list of planets?

    When was it added? Isn’t that a moon of Jupiter?

    It’s an asteroid discovered in 1801 and called a planet at first. In the 1850s more asteroids were discovered and it got demoted to asteroid. It was reclassified as a dwarf planet when Pluto was demoted.

    I’m fond of a quote, something to the effect that “The solar system consists of the Sun, Jupiter, and assorted rubble.”

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  5. Arahant Member
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):
    Aren’t you still complaining about Ceres being dropped from the list of planets?

    Not me. I’m not complaining about anything. Just pointing and laughing.

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  6. kedavis Coolidge
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Stina (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):
    My Very Eager Mother Just Served Us Nachos

    What?? Without Provolone?

    It’s the updated and more authentic version.

    Aren’t you still complaining about Ceres being dropped from the list of planets?

    When was it added? Isn’t that a moon of Jupiter?

    It’s an asteroid discovered in 1801 and called a planet at first. In the 1850s more asteroids were discovered and it got demoted to asteroid. It was reclassified as a dwarf planet when Pluto was demoted.

    Pluto is WAAAYYY bigger than Ceres.

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  7. EHerring Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Stina (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):
    My Very Eager Mother Just Served Us Nachos

    What?? Without Provolone?

    It’s the updated and more authentic version.

    Aren’t you still complaining about Ceres being dropped from the list of planets?

    When was it added? Isn’t that a moon of Jupiter?

    It’s an asteroid discovered in 1801 and called a planet at first. In the 1850s more asteroids were discovered and it got demoted to asteroid. It was reclassified as a dwarf planet when Pluto was demoted.

    Pluto is WAAAYYY bigger than Ceres.

    Does it float?

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  8. Arahant Member
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    EHerring (View Comment):
    Does it float?

    Mean density

    1.854±0.006 g/cm3

    Depends on what you want it to float in.

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  9. EHerring Coolidge
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    Sometimes things fall apart for scammers, like when the voicemail to text does not understand the heavy accent pretending to be a legit American.

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    EHerring (View Comment):

    Sometimes things fall apart for scammers, like when the voicemail to text does not understand the heavy accent pretending to be a legit American.

     

    Even someone without a heavy accent might have more problems than just the ONE I see there.

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  11. HankRhody Freelance Philosopher Contributor
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    A square root (for a positive number) could be either positive or negative.  But not a cube root.

    A cube has three roots, one a positive, real number and two on the complex plane. Both of those complex roots will have a negative real component, one having a positive complex component and the other being it’s conjugate.

    I used to know how to calculate out all three roots. Give me a minute, I’ll see if I can’t remember how. It’s easier to see with the fourth root. Sixteen has four fourth roots:

    2^4 = 16
    (-2)^4 = 16, because the signs cancel out twice.
    (2i)^4 = 16 * i * i * i *i = 16 * (-1) * (-1) = 16
    (-2i)^4 = 16, because of that third line and also because much like the 2nd line the signs cancel out again.

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  12. HankRhody Freelance Philosopher Contributor
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Oh great, more “arm-waving” proofs.  Takes me back to High School.

    “Well, you see, 6 is an even number, but 6 is an odd number of legs for a horse…”

    It really isn’t. All horses have six legs.

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  13. Arahant Member
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    HankRhody Freelance Philosopher (View Comment):
    It really isn’t. All horses have six legs.

    Unless they have eight.

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  14. kedavis Coolidge
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    HankRhody Freelance Philosopher (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    A square root (for a positive number) could be either positive or negative. But not a cube root.

    A cube has three roots, one a positive, real number and two on the complex plane. Both of those complex roots will have a negative real component, one having a positive complex component and the other being it’s conjugate.

    I used to know how to calculate out all three roots. Give me a minute, I’ll see if I can’t remember how. It’s easier to see with the fourth root. Sixteen has four fourth roots:

    2^4 = 16
    (-2)^4 = 16, because the signs cancel out twice.
    (2i)^4 = 16 * i * i * i *i = 16 * (-1) * (-1) = 16
    (-2i)^4 = 16, because of that third line and also because much like the 2nd line the signs cancel out again.

    We were talking about “real” numbers, in “real” numbers, there are no complex numbers.

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  15. HankRhody Freelance Philosopher Contributor
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    HankRhody Freelance Philosopher (View Comment):
    I used to know how to calculate out all three roots. Give me a minute, I’ll see if I can’t remember how.

    Okay, the important thing to remember here is that all n roots for a number occur on a disc in the complex plane, and the vector length of any given root is the same as every other one of those roots (all four roots of 16 were 2 units long, for example.) The roots occur at an even spacing, which means that the other two roots of 8 are going to be at 120 and 240 degrees around the unit circle. Err.. the twonit circle, since the length is two.

    So, we have the magnitude of the vector (2), and the direction (120 degrees), what are the components? Basic trigonometry. Our vectors are going to be -sine(120) + i * cosine(120) and the conjugate. Let’s see, sine(120) is going to be 1/2, and cosine(120) is going to be -sqrt(3)/2.

    So, (-1/2) – i * (sqrt(3)/2) and (-1/2) + i * (sqrt(3)/2)

    Let’s try that out! Because it’s such a joy to type equations I’m going to substitute two variables quick:

    a = (-1/2), and b = (sqrt(3)/2)
    [a + ib]^3 =
    a^3 + 3(a^2)*ib + 3(a)*(ib^2) + (ib)^3
    a^3 + 3i(a^2)b – 3ab^2 -ib^3  multiplying out all the imaginary numbers I can.

    okay, working out those terms individually

    a^3 = -1/8
    3(a^2)*ib = i*3*sqrt(3)/8
    -3ab^2 = 9/8
    -ib^3 = -i*3*sqrt(3)/8

    The second and fourth lines cancel each other out, so we get

    -1/8 + 9/8 = 8/8 = 1. 

    Wait, weren’t we supposed to get 8? I must have dropped a 2 somewhere in there.

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  16. HankRhody Freelance Philosopher Contributor
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    We were talking about “real” numbers, in “real” numbers, there are no complex numbers.

    If you’re going to insist on being boring I really can’t stop you.

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  17. Arahant Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    We were talking about “real” numbers, in “real” numbers, there are no complex numbers.

    Prove your assertion, sir.

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  18. kedavis Coolidge
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    We were talking about “real” numbers, in “real” numbers, there are no complex numbers.

    Prove your assertion, sir.

    If anything, we had only been discussing prime numbers, which are positive/whole numbers, not even really integers.  Let alone “real” numbers.

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