Think Tanks, Lobbying Groups, and Leftists – Oh My!

 

On a recent visit to Georgetown, my wife and I had dinner with an old friend of hers. I’ll call her “Susan.” They studied together in France during a semester abroad in college, back in the ’80s. Susan grew up in California near Malibu. Her family had a second home in Park City, Utah, and most weekends she and her family would fly to Utah to go skiing. She didn’t get into Berkeley and ended up going to the University of Utah, where she says she basically skied and partied for four years.

While in France, she met a Frenchman who owned a winery. They got married and had two kids. She sent her kids to boarding school at 11 years old and she traveled the world unencumbered. Her husband was unfaithful, and they divorced after 19 years of marriage. Now she’s back in the states, working at a health care think tank in Washington, DC. Which seems sort of funny, because after a very pleasant evening of conversation, my primary impression of her was that thinking was not her strong suit. That sounds mean. But she consistently and clearly struck me as not terribly intelligent. Which is fine. I’m not terribly artistic like Susan seems to be. We all can’t be great at everything.

Anyway, my wife hadn’t seen her in 30 years, and they had a great time catching up. Susan mostly ignored me (which was perfectly fine with me), until my wife mentioned that I was a doctor. Then she turned to me and said, “Oh, you’re a doctor? I help run a health care think tank!”

Me: “That’s nice!”

Susan: “The CDC gave us a huge grant to figure out why people aren’t getting their COVID vaccines. We’ve been researching the problem for over six months. We’ve got the most brilliant minds in the world working on it.”

Me: “That’s swell!”

Susan is a blind follower of the far left, as you’d expect of someone who grew up extremely wealthy, has been sheltered from reality for most of her life, and lacks an active mind. My wife warned me ahead of time, and I assured her that I would just sit there, and not say a dang thing, no matter what Susan said. So I was keeping my answers brief, and keeping an eye on my wife, who was watching me intently, to be sure I didn’t slip up and say something. Anything, really. I couldn’t blame her.

Susan: “This is a real problem with America. People don’t think. I miss Europe so much…”

Me: “I’m sure they miss you too.”

Wife: * stares at me even more intently *

Susan: “We’ve spent millions of dollars on our research so far. But this is so ridiculous. Can you imagine why anyone wouldn’t get their vaccine?”

Me: “Well, some blacks won’t get it because they suspect it’s a government plot to sterilize black people.”

Susan: * genuinely surprised * “Why on earth would they think such a thing?!?”

Me: “They’ve been trained that you hate them, along with every other white person. You can’t really blame them for actually believing it, I suppose.”

Wife: * dirty look *

Susan: “That’s incredible!”

Me: “And some Democrats won’t get them because Biden and Harris spent a year saying that they would never trust a ‘Trump vaccine.’”

Susan: “You’re kidding!!!”

Me: “And some Republicans won’t get it because they don’t trust the CDC or other government agencies.”

Susan: * clearly shocked * “Oh my gosh! That’s unbelievable!!!”

Me: “So in six months of millions of dollars worth of research, did any of your ‘most brilliant minds in the world’ go out and, you know, ask people why they didn’t get the vaccine?”

Wife: “Say, who was that cute guy in France that worked at the pub we always went to?”

Susan: “Well, of course, we’ve been really busy with data collection and analysis. We’ve been talking to some of the smartest people in the country about it. I mean, if you won’t even get a simple vaccine, that kind of means that you’re not exactly a genius, right? So why would we talk to people like that?”

Me: “Um, because you want to know why they’re making a certain decision. One way to figure that out would be to, you know, ask them. I understand your desire to avoid the undesirables. But it’s hard to study fish without getting wet once in a while, right?”

Wife: “Remember that cheap wine we used to drink for like 50 cents a glass? Woo!!!”

Susan: “For Europeans like me, it can be really hard to understand why Americans do things.”

Me: “Especially if you don’t ask them.”

Wife: “How ‘bout we get another bottle of wine?”

Me: “Sounds great!”

Susan: “All we can do is report our findings. We’re not a lobbying group (she spat those words out as if they were distasteful to her). We’re a think tank. We just provide our findings to the government.”

Me: “Let me guess. Your findings are that the vaccination rates are lower than desired because of inadequately funded government programs.”

Wife: * really dirty look *

Susan: “Actually, you’re exactly right. We’re proposing federal and state initiatives to improve vaccination rates. Funding for these programs will be easy because both parties want to fix this. That’s why they should listen to think tanks instead of lobbying groups. We provide them with unbiased information. So we keep them honest, and they keep hiring us for whatever problem comes along.”

Me: “There’s a simple way to test your hypothesis.”

Susan: “What do you mean?”

Me: “Just once, submit your findings to the government on some problem, and suggest that the best way to fix their problem would be to spend less money on something. Anything, really. See if you get any future grants. That way, you’d know that they really want honest information rather than confirmation of their own biases, and you could – OW!!!!”

Wife: * really dirty look after she kicked me in the shin *

Susan: “I don’t understand…”

Me: “Ah! Here’s our next bottle of wine! Why don’t you ladies refill your glasses? If you’ll excuse me, I’ve got to go the little boys’ room…”
* Limps away from table at 35mph *


I’d never really thought about the difference between think tanks and lobbying groups in Washington. After hearing Susan point out how different they are, I suspect that they may have a lot in common. They’re all just trying to earn money by promoting the growth of the government that pays them money. It’s not a parasitic relationship – it’s symbiotic. Which is much worse.

This sort of relationship makes sense, I suppose. Presuming you’re either a leftist or a sociopath. Which, in DC, seems to be a pretty safe assumption for much of the population.

Our government is broken in so many little ways. And it’s infested, at every level, with people like Susan. Which means it’s very unlikely to get better. They can’t fix problems that don’t even strike them as problems. To them, everything is ok.

The three of us drank three bottles of really yummy wine, ate some really good food, and blew nearly $300. I woke up with a hangover, a sore shin, and a grumpy wife: “I can’t take you anywhere!”

Why did my kid have to decide to play at Georgetown? Nebraska has a great volleyball team. Those visits would have been pleasant, at least…

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  1. RufusRJones Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    the latter is what will get you more supply faster.

    This is true and it also disperses the current supply more fairly. More utility.

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  2. Flicker Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    the latter is what will get you more supply faster.

    This is true and it also disperses the current supply more fairly. More utility.

    You know years ago I wanted to sail around the world — and I wanted to play pool.  So I said we could get a boat big enough for a pool table.  And my friend said, Won’t the balls roll around?  And I realized that there was no way to level a table even in a glassy harbor.  And so I said, jokingly, that we could put it on gimbals.

    I listened to the first 20 minutes or so of a video you linked to about importing deflation from China, and I could follow the reasoning, but it seemed more like the economic version of playing pool on a table in a boat that is perpetually in motion.  The very concept of — what was it, speculation? — on stocks that theoretically have no intrinsic value? is exactly like making a straight shot on a rocking table: speculation would have to take into account what manipulating forces shift the economic table, such as knowing ahead of time what changes, such as gravity and inertia (or interest rates and money supply) the Fed will make while the balls you’ve shot at are still in motion.

    Can any observer really know how to invest?

    • #122
  3. kedavis Coolidge
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    the latter is what will get you more supply faster.

    This is true and it also disperses the current supply more fairly. More utility.

    You know years ago I wanted to sail around the world — and I wanted to play pool. So I said we could get a boat big enough for a pool table. And my friend said, Won’t the balls roll around? And I realized that there was no way to level a table even in a glassy harbor. And so I said, jokingly, that we could put it on gimbals.

    I listened to the first 20 minutes or so of a video you linked to about importing deflation from China, and I could follow the reasoning, but it seemed more like the economic version of playing pool on a table in a boat that it perpetually in motion. The very concept of — what was it, speculation? — on stocks that theoretically have no intrinsic value? is exactly like making a straight shot on a rocking table: speculation would have to take into account what manipulating forces shift the economic table, such as knowing ahead of time what changes, such as gravity and inertia (or interest rates and money supply) the Fed will make while the balls you’ve shot at are still in motion.

    Can any observer really know how to invest?

    So it IS really all just luck!

    Winning life’s lottery!

    • #123
  4. RufusRJones Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):
    Can any observer really know how to invest?

    I just heard a really good interview about this. It is so bad. There are so many levels to this problem now. It’s all BS from the government. Totally artificially created. I will try to clip some points from the transcript tomorrow. 

    The main thing is you have to have natural interest rates at all times. This makes most things pretty honest and transparent. It hasn’t been like that since about 1996. 

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  5. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    the latter is what will get you more supply faster.

    This is true and it also disperses the current supply more fairly. More utility.

    You know years ago I wanted to sail around the world — and I wanted to play pool. So I said we could get a boat big enough for a pool table. And my friend said, Won’t the balls roll around? And I realized that there was no way to level a table even in a glassy harbor. And so I said, jokingly, that we could put it on gimbals.

    I listened to the first 20 minutes or so of a video you linked to about importing deflation from China, and I could follow the reasoning, but it seemed more like the economic version of playing pool on a table in a boat that it perpetually in motion. The very concept of — what was it, speculation? — on stocks that theoretically have no intrinsic value? is exactly like making a straight shot on a rocking table: speculation would have to take into account what manipulating forces shift the economic table, such as knowing ahead of time what changes, such as gravity and inertia (or interest rates and money supply) the Fed will make while the balls you’ve shot at are still in motion.

    Can any observer really know how to invest?

    Schrodinger would be interested.

    • #125
  6. RufusRJones Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    So it IS really all just luck!

    I think the reality is you want to be long things besides fiat money and precious metals, simply because we live in a bayesian world. I think that means that people need to eat so they are going to be productive to survive. The problem is, things can go really wrong, chaotic, and opaque for long periods of time, because of how central banks operate. 

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  7. Manny Coolidge
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    Oh my gosh this was hilarious!  Doctor, you’ve outdone yourself. If you ever go out to dinner with that woman again, please, document the conversation again. This was superb. 

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  8. Flicker Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    the latter is what will get you more supply faster.

    This is true and it also disperses the current supply more fairly. More utility.

    You know years ago I wanted to sail around the world — and I wanted to play pool. So I said we could get a boat big enough for a pool table. And my friend said, Won’t the balls roll around? And I realized that there was no way to level a table even in a glassy harbor. And so I said, jokingly, that we could put it on gimbals.

    I listened to the first 20 minutes or so of a video you linked to about importing deflation from China, and I could follow the reasoning, but it seemed more like the economic version of playing pool on a table in a boat that it perpetually in motion. The very concept of — what was it, speculation? — on stocks that theoretically have no intrinsic value? is exactly like making a straight shot on a rocking table: speculation would have to take into account what manipulating forces shift the economic table, such as knowing ahead of time what changes, such as gravity and inertia (or interest rates and money supply) the Fed will make while the balls you’ve shot at are still in motion.

    Can any observer really know how to invest?

    So it IS really all just luck!

    Winning life’s lottery!

    The luck is knowing the people who are going to shake the table next.

    • #128
  9. kedavis Coolidge
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    the latter is what will get you more supply faster.

    This is true and it also disperses the current supply more fairly. More utility.

    You know years ago I wanted to sail around the world — and I wanted to play pool. So I said we could get a boat big enough for a pool table. And my friend said, Won’t the balls roll around? And I realized that there was no way to level a table even in a glassy harbor. And so I said, jokingly, that we could put it on gimbals.

    I listened to the first 20 minutes or so of a video you linked to about importing deflation from China, and I could follow the reasoning, but it seemed more like the economic version of playing pool on a table in a boat that it perpetually in motion. The very concept of — what was it, speculation? — on stocks that theoretically have no intrinsic value? is exactly like making a straight shot on a rocking table: speculation would have to take into account what manipulating forces shift the economic table, such as knowing ahead of time what changes, such as gravity and inertia (or interest rates and money supply) the Fed will make while the balls you’ve shot at are still in motion.

    Can any observer really know how to invest?

    So it IS really all just luck!

    Winning life’s lottery!

    The luck is knowing the people who are going to shake the table next.

    Or BE the people who are shaking the table.

    • #129
  10. Flicker Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    the latter is what will get you more supply faster.

    This is true and it also disperses the current supply more fairly. More utility.

    You know years ago I wanted to sail around the world — and I wanted to play pool. So I said we could get a boat big enough for a pool table. And my friend said, Won’t the balls roll around? And I realized that there was no way to level a table even in a glassy harbor. And so I said, jokingly, that we could put it on gimbals.

    I listened to the first 20 minutes or so of a video you linked to about importing deflation from China, and I could follow the reasoning, but it seemed more like the economic version of playing pool on a table in a boat that it perpetually in motion. The very concept of — what was it, speculation? — on stocks that theoretically have no intrinsic value? is exactly like making a straight shot on a rocking table: speculation would have to take into account what manipulating forces shift the economic table, such as knowing ahead of time what changes, such as gravity and inertia (or interest rates and money supply) the Fed will make while the balls you’ve shot at are still in motion.

    Can any observer really know how to invest?

    So it IS really all just luck!

    Winning life’s lottery!

    The luck is knowing the people who are going to shake the table next.

    Or BE the people who are shaking the table.

    Yes, that may be best, but doesn’t inheriting riches induce insanity into the genetic pool after that the first few generations?

    I’ve often wondered what it must be like to walk through Grand Central Station and wave your arm and say, This is all mine, or my family’s, it’ll all be mine someday.  (I saw it in a video once.)

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  11. RufusRJones Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):
    Can any observer really know how to invest?

    I just heard a really good interview about this. It is so bad. There are so many levels to this problem now. It’s all BS from the government. Totally artificially created. I will try to clip some points from the transcript tomorrow.

    The main thing is you have to have natural interest rates at all times. This makes most things pretty honest and transparent. It hasn’t been like that since about 1996.

    Jeffrey Gundlach says, and I’m pretty sure there are no arguments against it, the stock market is overvalued no matter what metric you use except for treasury yields. Well, the treasury yield is suppressed and it’s below inflation. If it wasn’t, it would break every single Western government. 4% on the two-year treasury would literally break the government, not to mention all of the assets that would drop like a rock.

    Luke Groman says that Western societies won’t survive unless they suppress the interest rate by 14 real points. This is not some kook saying that

    • #131
  12. RufusRJones Member
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    I get that nobody is interested in my preferred vector of how I understand the world, but one very easy way to do it is to watch Jeffrey Gundlach videos and then just skip over the parts that get too technical or you find boring. Nobody is more gifted at explaining the political economy and how the  horrifically regulated financial system affects everything. He’s really good at explaining mathematical issues, debt dynamics, and social problems emanating from the screwy government in financial system. Start with his yahoo finance interviews.

    He grew up totally poor and graduated in math from Dartmouth. Even though he’s an ivy league billionaire hedge fund guy, he does not come off like one at all. Really cool guy.

    • #132
  13. Saint Augustine Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    I get that nobody is interested in my preferred vector of how I understand the world, but one very easy way to do it is to watch Jeffrey Gundlach videos and then just skip over the parts that get too technical or you find boring. Nobody is more gifted at explaining the political economy and how the horrifically regulated financial system affects everything. He’s really good at explaining mathematical issues, debt dynamics, and social problems emanating from the screwy government in financial system. Start with his yahoo finance interviews.

    He grew up totally poor and graduated in math from Dartmouth. Even though he’s an ivy league billionaire hedge fund guy, he does not come off like one at all. Really cool guy.

    In theory, I’m interested. I just have very limited time and mental capacity.

    • #133
  14. Flicker Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    I get that nobody is interested in my preferred vector of how I understand the world, but one very easy way to do it is to watch Jeffrey Gundlach videos and then just skip over the parts that get too technical or you find boring. Nobody is more gifted at explaining the political economy and how the horrifically regulated financial system affects everything. He’s really good at explaining mathematical issues, debt dynamics, and social problems emanating from the screwy government in financial system. Start with his yahoo finance interviews.

    He grew up totally poor and graduated in math from Dartmouth. Even though he’s an ivy league billionaire hedge fund guy, he does not come off like one at all. Really cool guy.

    If it were in written form I’d read it, but podcasts put me to sleep.  Literally.

    • #134
  15. RufusRJones Member
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    This is a very good article about how bogus the CPI is, particularly given how much force they are shutting down your throat with the Fed. They lie about your Social Security payments etc. 

    Like I said before somewhere yesterday, if you used actual rent and not owners equivalent rent the CPI would be 11%. 

     

     

     

    It is impossible to make good decisions when you are using bad data. Everything from your understanding of the problems to your belief in the intended outcomes is skewed. This is a very real problem that is provable today.

    The Federal Reserve, Treasury, and various politicians are making monetary and fiscal policy decisions on data that is telling them CPI inflation is 5.3%, core inflation is 4%, and the annual change of the rent index is sub 2%. Alternative data sources, which use more robust methodologies and are based on larger data sets, have these numbers at 50% to 300% higher depending on the metric.

    Maybe the alternative data sets are accurate. Or maybe they are overestimating to some degree. But what is clear here is that the CPI Rent Index can’t possibly produce an accurate monthly number if they aren’t even surveying the housing units on a monthly basis. Therein lies the problem. Bad data gets you bad decisions. And bad decisions have severe consequences when you are dealing with monetary and fiscal decisions that end up making the rich richer and the poor poorer.

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  16. Midwest Southerner Coolidge
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    I’m a little late to this party, but I thoroughly enjoyed this one, Doc! Might have laughed a little too much while reading it…

    Dr. Bastiat: Why did my kid have to decide to play at Georgetown? Nebraska has a great volleyball team. Those visits would have been pleasant, at least…

    Hey, I’m in Nebraska and in close proximity to both Omaha and Lincoln. Anytime you and yours feel like a visit to the nice midwest, just say the word!

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  17. philo Member
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    Midwest Southerner (View Comment):

    I’m a little late to this party, but I thoroughly enjoyed this one, Doc! Might have laughed a little too much while reading it…

    Dr. Bastiat: Why did my kid have to decide to play at Georgetown? Nebraska has a great volleyball team. Those visits would have been pleasant, at least…

    Hey, I’m in Nebraska and in close proximity to both Omaha and Lincoln. Anytime you and yours feel like a visit to the nice midwest, just say the word!

    The next time I’m there…how about the bar in Prague, or maybe the one in Surprise. 

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  18. Midwest Southerner Coolidge
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    philo (View Comment):
    The next time I’m there…how about the bar in Prague, or maybe the one in Surprise. 

    Absolutely! I’m about 30 minutes from Prague and a little over an hour from Surprise. 

    An aside: Whenever I write Surprise when referencing the town, I have to fight the urge to add an exclamation point. ha!

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  19. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    Midwest Southerner (View Comment):

    I’m a little late to this party, but I thoroughly enjoyed this one, Doc! Might have laughed a little too much while reading it…

    Dr. Bastiat: Why did my kid have to decide to play at Georgetown? Nebraska has a great volleyball team. Those visits would have been pleasant, at least…

    Hey, I’m in Nebraska and in close proximity to both Omaha and Lincoln. Anytime you and yours feel like a visit to the nice midwest, just say the word!

    Creighton is in Georgetown’s conference (Big East), so we play there at least once a year.  In fact, our coach is from Omaha, so he was going to take our team there last summer for some scrimmages etc, but got shut down by COVID.  If I make a game out there, I’ll give you a call.

    Thanks!

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