Think Tanks, Lobbying Groups, and Leftists – Oh My!

 

On a recent visit to Georgetown, my wife and I had dinner with an old friend of hers. I’ll call her “Susan.” They studied together in France during a semester abroad in college, back in the ’80s. Susan grew up in California near Malibu. Her family had a second home in Park City, Utah, and most weekends she and her family would fly to Utah to go skiing. She didn’t get into Berkeley and ended up going to the University of Utah, where she says she basically skied and partied for four years.

While in France, she met a Frenchman who owned a winery. They got married and had two kids. She sent her kids to boarding school at 11 years old and she traveled the world unencumbered. Her husband was unfaithful, and they divorced after 19 years of marriage. Now she’s back in the states, working at a health care think tank in Washington, DC. Which seems sort of funny, because after a very pleasant evening of conversation, my primary impression of her was that thinking was not her strong suit. That sounds mean. But she consistently and clearly struck me as not terribly intelligent. Which is fine. I’m not terribly artistic like Susan seems to be. We all can’t be great at everything.

Anyway, my wife hadn’t seen her in 30 years, and they had a great time catching up. Susan mostly ignored me (which was perfectly fine with me), until my wife mentioned that I was a doctor. Then she turned to me and said, “Oh, you’re a doctor? I help run a health care think tank!”

Me: “That’s nice!”

Susan: “The CDC gave us a huge grant to figure out why people aren’t getting their COVID vaccines. We’ve been researching the problem for over six months. We’ve got the most brilliant minds in the world working on it.”

Me: “That’s swell!”

Susan is a blind follower of the far left, as you’d expect of someone who grew up extremely wealthy, has been sheltered from reality for most of her life, and lacks an active mind. My wife warned me ahead of time, and I assured her that I would just sit there, and not say a dang thing, no matter what Susan said. So I was keeping my answers brief, and keeping an eye on my wife, who was watching me intently, to be sure I didn’t slip up and say something. Anything, really. I couldn’t blame her.

Susan: “This is a real problem with America. People don’t think. I miss Europe so much…”

Me: “I’m sure they miss you too.”

Wife: * stares at me even more intently *

Susan: “We’ve spent millions of dollars on our research so far. But this is so ridiculous. Can you imagine why anyone wouldn’t get their vaccine?”

Me: “Well, some blacks won’t get it because they suspect it’s a government plot to sterilize black people.”

Susan: * genuinely surprised * “Why on earth would they think such a thing?!?”

Me: “They’ve been trained that you hate them, along with every other white person. You can’t really blame them for actually believing it, I suppose.”

Wife: * dirty look *

Susan: “That’s incredible!”

Me: “And some Democrats won’t get them because Biden and Harris spent a year saying that they would never trust a ‘Trump vaccine.’”

Susan: “You’re kidding!!!”

Me: “And some Republicans won’t get it because they don’t trust the CDC or other government agencies.”

Susan: * clearly shocked * “Oh my gosh! That’s unbelievable!!!”

Me: “So in six months of millions of dollars worth of research, did any of your ‘most brilliant minds in the world’ go out and, you know, ask people why they didn’t get the vaccine?”

Wife: “Say, who was that cute guy in France that worked at the pub we always went to?”

Susan: “Well, of course, we’ve been really busy with data collection and analysis. We’ve been talking to some of the smartest people in the country about it. I mean, if you won’t even get a simple vaccine, that kind of means that you’re not exactly a genius, right? So why would we talk to people like that?”

Me: “Um, because you want to know why they’re making a certain decision. One way to figure that out would be to, you know, ask them. I understand your desire to avoid the undesirables. But it’s hard to study fish without getting wet once in a while, right?”

Wife: “Remember that cheap wine we used to drink for like 50 cents a glass? Woo!!!”

Susan: “For Europeans like me, it can be really hard to understand why Americans do things.”

Me: “Especially if you don’t ask them.”

Wife: “How ‘bout we get another bottle of wine?”

Me: “Sounds great!”

Susan: “All we can do is report our findings. We’re not a lobbying group (she spat those words out as if they were distasteful to her). We’re a think tank. We just provide our findings to the government.”

Me: “Let me guess. Your findings are that the vaccination rates are lower than desired because of inadequately funded government programs.”

Wife: * really dirty look *

Susan: “Actually, you’re exactly right. We’re proposing federal and state initiatives to improve vaccination rates. Funding for these programs will be easy because both parties want to fix this. That’s why they should listen to think tanks instead of lobbying groups. We provide them with unbiased information. So we keep them honest, and they keep hiring us for whatever problem comes along.”

Me: “There’s a simple way to test your hypothesis.”

Susan: “What do you mean?”

Me: “Just once, submit your findings to the government on some problem, and suggest that the best way to fix their problem would be to spend less money on something. Anything, really. See if you get any future grants. That way, you’d know that they really want honest information rather than confirmation of their own biases, and you could – OW!!!!”

Wife: * really dirty look after she kicked me in the shin *

Susan: “I don’t understand…”

Me: “Ah! Here’s our next bottle of wine! Why don’t you ladies refill your glasses? If you’ll excuse me, I’ve got to go the little boys’ room…”
* Limps away from table at 35mph *


I’d never really thought about the difference between think tanks and lobbying groups in Washington. After hearing Susan point out how different they are, I suspect that they may have a lot in common. They’re all just trying to earn money by promoting the growth of the government that pays them money. It’s not a parasitic relationship – it’s symbiotic. Which is much worse.

This sort of relationship makes sense, I suppose. Presuming you’re either a leftist or a sociopath. Which, in DC, seems to be a pretty safe assumption for much of the population.

Our government is broken in so many little ways. And it’s infested, at every level, with people like Susan. Which means it’s very unlikely to get better. They can’t fix problems that don’t even strike them as problems. To them, everything is ok.

The three of us drank three bottles of really yummy wine, ate some really good food, and blew nearly $300. I woke up with a hangover, a sore shin, and a grumpy wife: “I can’t take you anywhere!”

Why did my kid have to decide to play at Georgetown? Nebraska has a great volleyball team. Those visits would have been pleasant, at least…

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  1. drlorentz Member
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    Dr. Bastiat:

    The three of us drank three bottles of really yummy wine, ate some really good food, and blew nearly $300. I woke up with a hangover, a sore shin, and a grumpy wife: “I can’t take you anywhere!”

    That has a frighteningly familiar ring to it, especially the last bit.

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  2. Muleskinner, Weasel Wrangler Member
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    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    Various expensive “think tank” studies have come out with conclusions that my friends and I said, “We could have told you that for the price of a box of doughnuts.”

    Me, too. And I’ve done it too. The thing is, even though I had more PhDs, subject matter experts, and actual data committed to the problem, no one would believe us because it was in-house research. Hence Skinner’s Iron Law of Government Consulting: If you want your work to be believed, hire a consultant to say what you said, and the more you pay, the greater the credibility.

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  3. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    Phil Turmel (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: Susan: “For Europeans like me, it can be really hard to understand why Americans do things.”

    Snuck that statement of change of allegiance under us readers’ noses. If you go native in another country, you usually stay there.

    She made comments like that repeatedly. She even tried to speak with a phony French accent, and would occasionally say, “Um … How you say..” like she was struggling with her English. She kept pointing out that she was a worldly European who viewed those provincial Americans with disdain.

    Reminds me of the wife of an actor who tried to pass herself off as a Spaniard.  Or Rachel Dolezal.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/12/hilaria-baldwin-spanish-heritage-alec-baldwin-explanation-defense

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  4. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Beautifully done. I hope it’s true.

    My view of think tanks is that they’re basically ad agencies for policy proposals. They get paid to push specific policies in Washington. So no, they’re not lobbyists, per se. They’re lobbyists with powerpoint presentations.

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  5. Phil Turmel Inactive
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Beautifully done. I hope it’s true.

    My view of think tanks is that they’re basically ad agencies for policy proposals. They get paid to push specific policies in Washington. So no, they’re not lobbyists, per se. They’re lobbyists with powerpoint presentations.

    Lobbyist enablers.

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  6. Arahant Member
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    Muleskinner, Weasel Wrangler (View Comment):
    The thing is, even though I had more PhDs, subject matter experts, and actual data committed to the problem, no one would believe us because it was in-house research. Hence Skinner’s Iron Law of Government Consulting: If you want your work to be believed, hire a consultant to say what you said, and the more you pay, the greater the credibility.

    A consultant is anyone from more than 25 miles away with a shoeshine.

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  7. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Muleskinner, Weasel Wrangler (View Comment):
    The thing is, even though I had more PhDs, subject matter experts, and actual data committed to the problem, no one would believe us because it was in-house research. Hence Skinner’s Iron Law of Government Consulting: If you want your work to be believed, hire a consultant to say what you said, and the more you pay, the greater the credibility.

    A consultant is anyone from more than 25 miles away with a shoeshine.

    I could get my shoes shined if I had to.

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  8. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):
    He was a painter, not an artist.

    There’s a difference? He wasn’t painting houses, he was painting landscapes and such. Isn’t painter a sub-class of artist?

    I forgot.  I’ve seen some of his paintings.

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  9. kedavis Coolidge
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):
    He was a painter, not an artist.

    There’s a difference? He wasn’t painting houses, he was painting landscapes and such. Isn’t painter a sub-class of artist?

    I forgot. I’ve seen some of his paintings.

    Not sure if it’s true any more, but I heard something recently on local radio about how several Hitler paintings had been on auction somewhere, and NOBODY bought ANY of them.

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  10. Jim McConnell Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Muleskinner, Weasel Wrangler (View Comment):
    The thing is, even though I had more PhDs, subject matter experts, and actual data committed to the problem, no one would believe us because it was in-house research. Hence Skinner’s Iron Law of Government Consulting: If you want your work to be believed, hire a consultant to say what you said, and the more you pay, the greater the credibility.

    A consultant is anyone from more than 25 miles away with a shoeshine.

    And an expert is someone from out of state.

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  11. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):
    Beautifully done. I hope it’s true.

    It is.  Not quite word for word, but pretty close.  And I dropped some tangents off our conversation.   

    There will be a couple more posts coming from other conversations I had with ‘Susan’.  Then some more from others I’ve met in DC.  Lots of interesting people there.  Interesting to me, at least. 

    I feel like a foreign correspondent, reporting from some exotic land, describing the curious customs of the natives…

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  12. Flicker Coolidge
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Muleskinner, Weasel Wrangler (View Comment):
    The thing is, even though I had more PhDs, subject matter experts, and actual data committed to the problem, no one would believe us because it was in-house research. Hence Skinner’s Iron Law of Government Consulting: If you want your work to be believed, hire a consultant to say what you said, and the more you pay, the greater the credibility.

    A consultant is anyone from more than 25 miles away with a shoeshine.

    I could get my shoes shined if I had to.

    Do you shine steel-toes?

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  13. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    Retail Lawyer (View Comment):

    French husbands are unfaithful. Its traditional. Susan should have expected it. She does not belong at a think tank.

    No, she really, really belongs at a think tank. Think tanks are all about the next round of grant applications, which are all about conformity, not intellectual inquiry, innovation, or integrity.

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  14. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    Phil Turmel (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: Susan: “For Europeans like me, it can be really hard to understand why Americans do things.”

    Snuck that statement of change of allegiance under us readers’ noses. If you go native in another country, you usually stay there.

    She made comments like that repeatedly. She even tried to speak with a phony French accent, and would occasionally say, “Um … How you say..” like she was struggling with her English. She kept pointing out that she was a worldly European who viewed those provincial Americans with disdain.

    A comment that adds significant value to the OP.

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  15. CACrabtree Coolidge
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    Phil Turmel (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: Susan: “For Europeans like me, it can be really hard to understand why Americans do things.”

    Snuck that statement of change of allegiance under us readers’ noses. If you go native in another country, you usually stay there.

    She made comments like that repeatedly. She even tried to speak with a phony French accent, and would occasionally say, “Um … How you say..” like she was struggling with her English. She kept pointing out that she was a worldly European who viewed those provincial Americans with disdain.

    A bit like that exchange from Top Secret!

    Du Quois – “It appears you have become; how do you say – indispensable”

    Nick Rivers – “Indispensable”

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  16. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Muleskinner, Weasel Wrangler (View Comment):
    The thing is, even though I had more PhDs, subject matter experts, and actual data committed to the problem, no one would believe us because it was in-house research. Hence Skinner’s Iron Law of Government Consulting: If you want your work to be believed, hire a consultant to say what you said, and the more you pay, the greater the credibility.

    A consultant is anyone from more than 25 miles away with a shoeshine.

    I could get my shoes shined if I had to.

    Do you shine steel-toes?

    Ha, ha, ha.  I haven’t been on a jobsite in years.

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  17. Flicker Coolidge
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Muleskinner, Weasel Wrangler (View Comment):
    The thing is, even though I had more PhDs, subject matter experts, and actual data committed to the problem, no one would believe us because it was in-house research. Hence Skinner’s Iron Law of Government Consulting: If you want your work to be believed, hire a consultant to say what you said, and the more you pay, the greater the credibility.

    A consultant is anyone from more than 25 miles away with a shoeshine.

    I could get my shoes shined if I had to.

    Do you shine steel-toes?

    Ha, ha, ha. I haven’t been on a jobsite in years.

    I mean mine, too.  I should have said “Does one”.  :)

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  18. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    It’s a job tank, not a think tank.

    So:  Of the 2 million or so federal employees, not one of them could generate an answer to a question posed by someone else in government.  It had to be this chick, and her tank of thinks.

    Leeches.

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  19. Michael Brehm Lincoln
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    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat:

    Me: “Well, some blacks won’t get it because they suspect it’s a government plot to sterilize black people.”

    Susan: * genuinely surprised * “Why on earth would they think such a thing?!?”

    Me: “They’ve been trained that you hate them, along with every other white person. You can’t really blame them for actually believing it, I suppose.”

     

    “And perhaps they remember that the government has apparently actually done that.”

    I would have asked Susan if she knew what the Tuskegee Experiment was. The “best” “smartest” people were behind that one too.

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  20. David Carroll Thatcher
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    @drbastiat I’m wondering if your wife came away with any negative feelings about Susan notwithstanding the joy of reuniting with an old friend.

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  21. RufusRJones Member
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    I donate to mises.org every year because their continent is so enjoyable and educational and I really like sticking it to “the system” which they are good at. Just very good political economy analysis that the average person can understand. But check this out:

     

    They sell everything at cost or it’s free as PDFs. They control 90% of the texts. Something like that.

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  22. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    David Carroll (View Comment):

    @ drbastiat I’m wondering if your wife came away with any negative feelings about Susan notwithstanding the joy of reuniting with an old friend.

    A couple days later, she said something like, “We had a great time together, and Susan is a nice person.  But she’s an elitist snob.  Thanks for not stomping on her.” 

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  23. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    In the late 1970s, my father was interested in wind power. There was talk about him getting a grant for X dollars to study it. He responded that he could build a wind turbine for that amount of money and actually test his proposal. It’s safer politically to do a study than to build something and have it fail.

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  24. aardo vozz Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Beautiful!

    And yet still insufficiently cynical.😎😎😎😎

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  25. aardo vozz Member
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    Dave of Barsham (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: Now she’s back in the states, working at a health care think tank in Washington, D.C. Which seems sort of funny, because after a very pleasant evening of conversation, my primary impression of her was that thinking was not her strong suit. That sounds mean. But she consistently and clearly struck me as not terribly intelligent. Which is fine. I’m not terribly artistic, like Susan seems to be. We all can’t be great at everything.

    Artists generally don’t think they can run the world.

    Though to be fair, the last one that did took over most of Europe for a few years.

    Yeah, but he wasn’t that great an artist.

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  26. aardo vozz Member
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):
    Beautifully done. I hope it’s true.

    It is. Not quite word for word, but pretty close. And I dropped some tangents off our conversation.

    There will be a couple more posts coming from other conversations I had with ‘Susan’. Then some more from others I’ve met in DC. Lots of interesting people there. Interesting to me, at least.

    I feel like a foreign correspondent, reporting from some exotic land, describing the curious customs of the natives…

    I grew up and have lived most of my life in the D.C. area. “Foreign” correspondent  won’t cut it. Interstellar or Intergalactic is more like it.🙂

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  27. aardo vozz Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    I donate to mises.org every year because their continent is so enjoyable and educational and I really like sticking it to “the system” which they are good at. Just very good political economy analysis that the average person can understand. But check this out:

     

    They sell everything at cost or it’s free as PDFs. They control 90% of the texts. Something like that.

    And apparently they are so successful that they have their own continent. ( predictive text is not exactly anyone’s friend 🙂)

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  28. RufusRJones Member
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    aardo vozz (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    I donate to mises.org every year because their continent is so enjoyable and educational and I really like sticking it to “the system” which they are good at. Just very good political economy analysis that the average person can understand. But check this out:

     

     

    They sell everything at cost or it’s free as PDFs. They control 90% of the texts. Something like that.

    And apparently they are so successful that they have their own continent. ( predictive text is not exactly anyone’s friend 🙂)

    I do it with speech to text and you have to check your work a lot more than when you type. I never learn. lol

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  29. Stad Coolidge
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):
    Hey, why do people use birth control?

    Actually, I’d like to know why people don’t use birth control, given the number of single moms out there . . .

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  30. Full Size Tabby Member
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    Phil Turmel (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: Susan: “For Europeans like me, it can be really hard to understand why Americans do things.”

    Snuck that statement of change of allegiance under us readers’ noses. If you go native in another country, you usually stay there.

    She made comments like that repeatedly. She even tried to speak with a phony French accent, and would occasionally say, “Um … How you say..” like she was struggling with her English. She kept pointing out that she was a worldly European who viewed those provincial Americans with disdain.

    Aren’t the French some of the most proudly chauvinistic and thus provincial people among “western” societies? I do not consider that necessarily a negative, and admire their pride in their country. But it therefore seems odd for someone to pretend to be both French and global.

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