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  1. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
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    This was a great podcast! I learned a great deal and thoroughly enjoyed and appreciated the discussion among intelligent and thoughtful men–especially when they disagreed and did so respectfully. Loved it!

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  2. Charlotte Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    This was a great podcast! I learned a great deal and thoroughly enjoyed and appreciated the discussion among intelligent and thoughtful men–especially when they disagreed and did so respectfully. Loved it!

    You’re a better woman than I, Susan. I listened to the whole thing and have absolutely no idea what the guest, Greg Thomas, was talking about, or advocating, or trying to explain.

    Ah well!

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  3. Ed G. Member
    Ed G.
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    I know I’m unforgivably late to this, but I think he’s saying a few related things.

    1. Race is an unhelpful fiction. Better to conceive of ourselves in terms of culture, heritage, ancestry, ethnicity.
    2. In the US in particular we should get back to teh melting pot – which does not require forgetting our specific heritage and ancestries.
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  4. Ed G. Member
    Ed G.
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    “Jewishness”, “Blackness”, “Whiteness”, etc. We can’t have it both ways – either there is some essential, meaningful, actual trait that goes along with those classifications or there isn’t. I want to believe that MLK changed there world moving it toward the latter. If we now say, no, hold on there MLK, I cherish my particular “-ness” and how dare you appropriate or cancel my particular being, then we’re headed for some terrible us vs them times.

    Alternatively, we can shift our identities to overlapping cultural and ethnic heritages which are more scrapbooks and cookbooks than exclusive playbooks.

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  5. Taras Coolidge
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    Ed G. (View Comment):

    I know I’m unforgivably late to this, but I think he’s saying a few related things.

    1. Race is an unhelpful fiction. Better to conceive of ourselves in terms of culture, heritage, ancestry, ethnicity.
    2. In the US in particular we should get back to teh melting pot – which does not require forgetting our specific heritage and ancestries.

    Race may well be unhelpful, but it is not fiction.

    In recent years, we’ve learned that Asians have Neanderthal and Denisovan ancestry; whites, Neanderthal but no Denisovan; blacks, slight Neanderthal and no Denisovan.

    The main significance of this is that these are remnants of hybridization events that occurred 35-50 thousand years ago.  That they are still detectable today implies that the three gene pools have remained largely separate for tens of thousands of years.

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