The Elizabethan Era?

Let’s just disclose this right upfront: we had some pretty big technical issues during the production of this show (Skype went down during the Andy McCarthy segment — Andy is preparing a criminal complaint against them on our behalf) and James Lileks could not get his computer to recognize his mic (he blames a cheap Chinese dongle — oh, the humanity), so apologies, this is another Lileks-defecient show (kudos to @hangon for winning the Lileks Post of The Week honors for his post The New Energy Economy: An Exercise in Magical Thinking). That said, as previously mentioned, we’ve got the great Andy McCarthy (you must buy his new book Ball of Collusion: The Plot to Rig an Election and Destroy a Presidency) on all of the legal machinations around impeachment, and political consultant to the stars (and NR contributor) Luke Thompson on why Trump did nothing wrong in his phone call with Zelensky and some expert analysis on the Senate races coming up next fall. Also, Peter Robinson is worried about Liz Warren; and finally, does the window seat control the window shade or should there be darkness throughout the cabin? We hash it out, but tell us your thoughts in the comments. Special note to Ricochet members: don’t forget to vote in this week’s Long Poll to the right (or below if you’re on a mobile device) of this post. What? You’re not a member? JOIN TODAY.

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  1. Bishop Wash Member
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    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    Roosevelt Guck (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Yes, Warren has a message and a plan. A BAD message, and a FOOLISH plan.

    And what if We Works was just a bad idea, no matter who might have been president? Indeed the latest GLoP spent some time on exactly why We Works is a bad idea. So maybe the IPO problems are due to Rob Long, not Donald Trump.

    Warren has lots of rules. Plans are just another way of saying she has a boatload of rules and and penalties in case you want to live your life your own way.

    Yes, I think we should consistently remind people that a President Elizabeth Warren will take most of your money and constantly be telling you what to do.

    I didn’t get that part of Peter’s comparison between Warren and Clinton. Warren is quite the scold. I’ve seen the comparison that Hillary is your ex-wife and Fauxcahontas is your mother-in-law. 

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  2. Wolfsheim Member
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    I confess to having been flabbergasted by the seriousness with which Peter Robinson and Rob Long seem to take Elizabeth Warren. Yes, there is the old saw “No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.” But so gullible is it surely not…

    I do not live in the United States and have not spent enough time there to understand the bizarre politics of the country, but I do see the most discouraging extent to which the media control the narrative. Still, my impression is that Americans make up in common sense what they often woefully lack in factual understanding.

    I would hazard another factor: Hillary Clinton was defeated not only by her own ineptitude (and blatant dishonesty) but also by her image as the sort of woman even women dislike. My guess is that millions of voters who have never heard of Pow Wow Chow, EW’s plagiarized cookbook, will nonetheless think to themselves: “She’s just like my old primary-school teacher. Ugh! Better Trump!”

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  3. Full Size Tabby Member
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    Rob’s view of the past “civility” of airplane and train travel is based on a relatively brief period in the middle of the 20th Century. Stories about what train travel was like in the late 19th Century make today’s airplane travel look civilized. So, I don’t think we can entirely blame the general decline of civilization for the state of today’s airplane travel.  

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  4. Boss Mongo Member
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    Great podcast, But:  Window seat versus aisle seat?  That’s even worth discussing?

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  5. RufusRJones Member
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    One other thing about Warren.

    It really gets under my skin when all of those candidates that are attorneys ***lie*** about what happened in Ferguson, Missouri. That whole thing was completely adjudicated by both the Obama DOJ and state-level court. I assume she’s said the kid was murdered by the cop, because all the other ones did it too. 

    I don’t think lawyers should be able to tell unmitigated lies about the justice system and it’s even worse if they are trying to be POTUS. I think they deserve very rough legal or ethics treatment for doing that. It’s anti-civilization. 

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  6. RufusRJones Member
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    Remember that beer summit thing? The professor was completely out of line. Obama just made everything about that situation worse. Bill Clinton completely deserved to be impeached. Bar card and head of the justice system. I keep hearing new abuses by JFK, RFK, LBJ, Nixon, Lois Lerner, Fast and Furious, now we have FISA-gate. This is chaos. Are libertarians that crazy? No.

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  7. Arahant Member
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    Wolfsheim (View Comment):
    I confess to having been flabbergasted by the seriousness with which Peter Robinson and Rob Long seem to take Elizabeth Warren.

    It’s important to take them all seriously until they are defeated.

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  8. Samuel Block Support
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):
    Her fake Cherokee heritage and how she used it to benefit from affirmative action is major baggage.

    I completely agree with this. My understanding is both she and Harvard majorly broke major EEOC laws. Harvard got to check off boxes and got money for hiring her.

    Another thing here, too. She was interviewed a while ago by a rapper who has a radio show and he brought it up. It was interesting because Warren claimed that the Boston Globe did a thorough investigation and she was completely exonerated.

    Trump better keep that in his back pocket for whenever the Mueller accusations start making their rounds.

    I think Warren is a very dangerous candidate too, but that might have more to do with environment I’m in. Either way, team Trump better start moving on her now.

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  9. The Cynthonian Inactive
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    @peterrobinson, my term for Rob’s segue to the Boll & Branch spot is “Lileksian.”   Rolls off the tongue, doesn’t it? 

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  10. Arahant Member
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    Too bad he can’t pronounce Boll.

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  11. kedavis Coolidge
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    Taras (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):

    Elizabeth Warren has baggage.

    Her fake Cherokee heritage and how she used it to benefit from affirmative action is major baggage.

    How many times will Trump call her Pocohantas? One million times a day?

    her socialist platform will turn off purple Democrats and independent voters.

    Independent voters will decide the election as they almost always do.

    The problem is that at this point, it’s all baked into the cake, as with Trump’s being Trump. If she establishes herself as the anti-Trump, she has an automatic floor. As your last sentence says, from there, it’s in the “independent” hands. (And the dead vote.)

    She plans to burn down Medicare, replacing it with something different she calls “Medicare for All”, and attack retirement plans with her “Accountable Capitalism Act”.

    The former will scare senior citizens; the latter, the middle class.

    That’s what SHOULD happen.  But I expect a lot of them will vote for her anyway, because they figure that somehow they’ll benefit more by what is taken from other people, than they will lose by what is taken from THEM.

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  12. Gary Robbins Member
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    Unfortunately we look destined to run a candidate with a massive disapproval rate against Warren.  You thought 2018 was bad?  2020 looks to be a massacre on the scope of 1974, 1964 or 1932.

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  13. RufusRJones Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Unfortunately we look destined to run a candidate with a massive disapproval rate against Warren. You thought 2018 was bad? 2020 looks to be a massacre on the scope of 1974, 1964 or 1932.

    I suppose you’re going to tell me the GOP we’ll get more votes by being “nice” and selling austerity.

    The fact is you aren’t going to get your idealistic desires until after the bond market collapses. 

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  14. Arahant Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Unfortunately we look destined to run a candidate with a massive disapproval rate against Warren. You thought 2018 was bad? 2020 looks to be a massacre on the scope of 1974, 1964 or 1932.

    Enough with the negative waves, Moriarty!

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  15. RufusRJones Member
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  16. kedavis Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Unfortunately we look destined to run a candidate with a massive disapproval rate against Warren. You thought 2018 was bad? 2020 looks to be a massacre on the scope of 1974, 1964 or 1932.

    It seems maybe Ed Koch had a point.  If the voters fire Trump – and elect a socialist – they deserve to be punished.

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  17. Arahant Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    It seems maybe Ed Koch had a point. If the voters fire Trump – and elect a socialist – they deserve to be punished.

    Yeah, but those who vote otherwise get punished, too.

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  18. kedavis Coolidge
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    Arahant: Surprised the picture doesn’t have James in the dress. 😉

    It wouldn’t hide his Chinese dongle.

    I remember reading in one of Xaviera Hollander’s books that Chinese dongles are so small they don’t need to be hidden.

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  19. Arahant Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):

    Arahant: Surprised the picture doesn’t have James in the dress. 😉

    It wouldn’t hide his Chinese dongle.

    I remember reading in one of Xaviera Hollander’s books that Chinese dongles are so small they don’t need to be hidden.

    TMI, TMI, TMI!

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  20. Bishop Wash Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):

    Arahant: Surprised the picture doesn’t have James in the dress. 😉

    It wouldn’t hide his Chinese dongle.

    Xaviera Hollander

    There’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time. 

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  21. MISTER BITCOIN Inactive
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):

    Elizabeth Warren has baggage.

    Her fake Cherokee heritage and how she used it to benefit from affirmative action is major baggage.

    How many times will Trump call her Pocohantas? One million times a day?

    her socialist platform will turn off purple Democrats and independent voters.

    Independent voters will decide the election as they almost always do.

    The problem is that at this point, it’s all baked into the cake, as with Trump’s being Trump. If she establishes herself as the anti-Trump, she has an automatic floor. As your last sentence says, from there, it’s in the “independent” hands. (And the dead vote.)

    how high is the automatic floor? 40%?

     

    • #51
  22. MISTER BITCOIN Inactive
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):
    Her fake Cherokee heritage and how she used it to benefit from affirmative action is major baggage.

    I completely agree with this. My understanding is both she and Harvard majorly broke major EEOC laws. Harvard got to check off boxes and got money for hiring her.

    I would think her bar ethics issues would be off the chart. it’s all documented. She also apparently has been practicing law in Massachusetts without a law license.

    She’s done all kinds of legal work for all of the groups and issues that Democrats hate. Big Finance and things like that. She’s a house flipper, too.

    How many people with her educational credentials end up teaching at Ivy League colleges?

    Plus her whole scam is just embarrassing. There was a Native American at Harvard that knew about her scam and he would badger her to participate in Native American stuff. She wouldn’t do it of course. He’s running for Senate New Mexico .I forget his name. He was on Howie Carr. Really funny.

    Her compensation has been absolutely insane.

    You can be a more disgusting person in government but it’s pretty hard. One of the worst government parasites ever.

    She reminds me of Ilhan Omar. Her primary thing is she just sees politics as a racket.

     

    According to the Texas bar, 1986, Ms. Warren self identified as ‘American Indian’.

     

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  23. MISTER BITCOIN Inactive
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):
    Her fake Cherokee heritage and how she used it to benefit from affirmative action is major baggage.

    I completely agree with this. My understanding is both she and Harvard majorly broke major EEOC laws. Harvard got to check off boxes and got money for hiring her.

    I would think her bar ethics issues would be off the chart. it’s all documented. She also apparently has been practicing law in Massachusetts without a law license.

    She’s done all kinds of legal work for all of the groups and issues that Democrats hate. Big Finance and things like that. She’s a house flipper, too.

    How many people with her educational credentials end up teaching at Ivy League colleges?

    Plus her whole scam is just embarrassing. There was a Native American at Harvard that knew about her scam and he would badger her to participate in Native American stuff. She wouldn’t do it of course. He’s running for Senate New Mexico .I forget his name. He was on Howie Carr. Really funny.

    Her compensation has been absolutely insane.

    You can be a more disgusting person in government but it’s pretty hard. One of the worst government parasites ever.

    She reminds me of Ilhan Omar. Her primary thing is she just sees politics as a racket.

    didn’t Clarence Thomas and Anita Hill work at EEOC during the 1970s or 80s?

     

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  24. MISTER BITCOIN Inactive
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    Wolfsheim (View Comment):

    I confess to having been flabbergasted by the seriousness with which Peter Robinson and Rob Long seem to take Elizabeth Warren. Yes, there is the old saw “No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.” But so gullible is it surely not…

    I do not live in the United States and have not spent enough time there to understand the bizarre politics of the country, but I do see the most discouraging extent to which the media control the narrative. Still, my impression is that Americans make up in common sense what they often woefully lack in factual understanding.

    I would hazard another factor: Hillary Clinton was defeated not only by her own ineptitude (and blatant dishonesty) but also by her image as the sort of woman even women dislike. My guess is that millions of voters who have never heard of Pow Wow Chow, EW’s plagiarized cookbook, will nonetheless think to themselves: “She’s just like my old primary-school teacher. Ugh! Better Trump!”

     

    I agree that Trump should not underestimate Warren just like Hillary underestimated Trump.

    I completely forgot about that cookbook. It’s a terrible title, very juvenile title.

    I think Warren thinks that the Cherokee controversy is behind her but she is being naive.

    Scott Brown attacked her fake background in 2012 Senate race.

     

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  25. MISTER BITCOIN Inactive
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    Samuel Block (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):
    Her fake Cherokee heritage and how she used it to benefit from affirmative action is major baggage.

    I completely agree with this. My understanding is both she and Harvard majorly broke major EEOC laws. Harvard got to check off boxes and got money for hiring her.

    Another thing here, too. She was interviewed a while ago by a rapper who has a radio show and he brought it up. It was interesting because Warren claimed that the Boston Globe did a thorough investigation and she was completely exonerated.

    Trump better keep that in his back pocket for whenever the Mueller accusations start making their rounds.

    I think Warren is a very dangerous candidate too, but that might have more to do with environment I’m in. Either way, team Trump better start moving on her now.

    that’s right.

    the rapper called her ‘Rachel’ … I forget her last name, the ‘white’ woman who pretended to be ‘black’.

     

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  26. MISTER BITCOIN Inactive
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    The Cynthonian (View Comment):

    @peterrobinson, my term for Rob’s segue to the Boll & Branch spot is “Lileksian.” Rolls off the tongue, doesn’t it?

    it was a great segue but i can’t remember what he said lol 

    • #56
  27. kedavis Coolidge
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    It seems maybe Ed Koch had a point. If the voters fire Trump – and elect a socialist – they deserve to be punished.

    Yeah, but those who vote otherwise get punished, too.

    That’s the point I make too, to people who can’t bring themselves to vote for Trump because he’s so icky, or whatever. 

    It would be nice if only the people who vote for high taxes, had to pay them.

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  28. Taras Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Unfortunately we look destined to run a candidate with a massive disapproval rate against Warren. You thought 2018 was bad? 2020 looks to be a massacre on the scope of 1974, 1964 or 1932.

    It seems maybe Ed Koch had a point. If the voters fire Trump – and elect a socialist – they deserve to be punished.

    Gary, clearly the Democrats don’t agree with you — or they wouldn’t be trying to force Trump out before the election.

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  29. Gary Robbins Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Unfortunately we look destined to run a candidate with a massive disapproval rate against Warren. You thought 2018 was bad? 2020 looks to be a massacre on the scope of 1974, 1964 or 1932.

    I suppose you’re going to tell me the GOP we’ll get more votes by being “nice” and selling austerity.

    The fact is you aren’t going to get your idealistic desires until after the bond market collapses.

    Reagan is the answer.

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  30. Gary Robbins Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Unfortunately we look destined to run a candidate with a massive disapproval rate against Warren. You thought 2018 was bad? 2020 looks to be a massacre on the scope of 1974, 1964 or 1932.

    It seems maybe Ed Koch had a point. If the voters fire Trump – and elect a socialist – they deserve to be punished.

    Trump is a big government Republican who has $1 Trillion Annual Deficits.  The Republican Party needs to run a limited government conservative, not a populist.

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