The Class of ’87

It’s a bit unusual to find oneself adjacent to the biggest news story of the week, but that’s exactly what happened to our own Rob Long. He, like Brett Kavanaugh, Deborah Ramirez, Max Stier, and Robin Pogrebin are all member of the Yale University Class of 1987. We explore this story in this show in great detail with Byron York (he of The Washington Examiner and our own Byron York Show podcast). We also discuss the weird story coming of the Ukraine, whether or not dressing as a fictional character is racism, the Streaming Wars, and insect life in the Greater Baltimore area.

Music from this week’s show: Not Fade Away by Buddy Holly and The Crickets

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  1. Stad Thatcher

    Ricochet Audio Network: Rob Long. He, like Brett Kavanaugh, Deborah Ramirez, Max Stier, and Robin Pogrebin are all member of the Yale University Class of 1987.

    I smell a conspiracy . . .

    • #1
    • September 20, 2019, at 11:46 AM PDT
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  2. Richard Easton Member

    Rob says you can avoid anything that’s not in line with your opinions. Has he walked through airports recently? CNN is blaring everywhere. I was looking at a menu for a restaurant in Williamsburg last week, and I heard a patron attacking people who want to limit immigration. Leftism is everywhere (I agree with James).

    • #2
    • September 20, 2019, at 12:04 PM PDT
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  3. Guruforhire Member

    If netflix can hold on a few years, most of the studios will license their content again. This current phase is large content companies trying to forward integrate because they think they have strategic control point with their content which will force users to subscribe to them.

    The thing about netflix is that it created a convenient a la carte system.

    I am not going to subscribe to HBO go. I just won’t watch their content. I am not going to subscribe to Disney or CBS whatever, I just wont watch their content.

    The only reason I subscribe to ANY of these services is for shows for my kids.

    • #3
    • September 20, 2019, at 12:05 PM PDT
    • 5 likes
  4. Guruforhire Member

    Didn’t the Ukraine heavily provide information to the clinton campaign?

    • #4
    • September 20, 2019, at 12:30 PM PDT
    • 1 like
  5. Arahant Member

    Wow! Did Peter get suspended for last week’s language?

    • #5
    • September 20, 2019, at 1:24 PM PDT
    • 10 likes
  6. Henry Castaigne Member

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Rob says you can avoid anything that’s not in line with your opinions. Has he walked through airports recently? CNN is blaring everywhere. I was looking at a menu for a restaurant in Williamsburg last week, and I heard a patron attacking people who want to limit immigration. Leftism is everywhere (I agree with James).

    Rightwing people don’t get to escape Leftism. Leftists can escape the rightwing narrative even if all their friends listen to FoxNews. The Fox News Guy is forced to listen to lefty nonsense all night and day.

    • #6
    • September 20, 2019, at 1:32 PM PDT
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  7. OccupantCDN Coolidge

    Guruforhire (View Comment):

    If netflix can hold on a few years, most of the studios will license their content again. This current phase is large content companies trying to forward integrate because they think they have strategic control point with their content which will force users to subscribe to them.

    The thing about netflix is that it created a convenient a la carte system.

    I am not going to subscribe to HBO go. I just won’t watch their content. I am not going to subscribe to Disney or CBS whatever, I just wont watch their content.

    The only reason I subscribe to ANY of these services is for shows for my kids.

    I agree. I think Disney has the best chance to be successful, between their classic Disney content, Marvell and Star Wars they have a library that has a broad fan base. Is netflix really the most vulnerable? or is Amazon Prime?

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    • September 20, 2019, at 1:41 PM PDT
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  8. Texmoor Coolidge

    The Class of ’87 had its dreams…

    • #8
    • September 20, 2019, at 2:08 PM PDT
    • 3 likes
  9. Miffed White Male Member

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    Guruforhire (View Comment):

    If netflix can hold on a few years, most of the studios will license their content again. This current phase is large content companies trying to forward integrate because they think they have strategic control point with their content which will force users to subscribe to them.

    The thing about netflix is that it created a convenient a la carte system.

    I am not going to subscribe to HBO go. I just won’t watch their content. I am not going to subscribe to Disney or CBS whatever, I just wont watch their content.

    The only reason I subscribe to ANY of these services is for shows for my kids.

    I agree. I think Disney has the best chance to be successful, between their classic Disney content, Marvell and Star Wars they have a library that has a broad fan base. Is netflix really the most vulnerable? or is Amazon Prime?

    Nobody subscribes to amazon prime just for the video. There’s so much more that comes with it, even besides the free shipping.

    I think service hopping is going to be a thing. Subscribe to a service for a month or two, cancel and move on to the next one. 

     

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    • September 20, 2019, at 2:10 PM PDT
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  10. Stad Thatcher

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    Nobody subscribes to amazon prime just for the video. There’s so much more that comes with it, even besides the free shipping.

    Actually, we subscribe for the two-day (most of the time) free shipping. Instant gratification . . .

    • #10
    • September 20, 2019, at 2:32 PM PDT
    • 1 like
  11. kedavis Member

    Ricochet Podcast #265

    The Class of ’87

     

    #265? Really? And in all these hours nobody else noticed or thought to comment?

    • #11
    • September 20, 2019, at 7:35 PM PDT
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  12. Arahant Member

    kedavis (View Comment):
    #265? Really? And in all these hours nobody else noticed or thought to comment?

    Eh, who bothers to look besides you? When has it ever been right? James said it was 465. Close enough.

    • #12
    • September 20, 2019, at 7:37 PM PDT
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  13. kedavis Member

    Arahant (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    #265? Really? And in all these hours nobody else noticed or thought to comment?

    Eh, who bothers to look besides you? When has it ever been right? James said it was 465. Close enough.

    The wrong number makes it show up in the wrong position when you download it, too.

    • #13
    • September 20, 2019, at 8:28 PM PDT
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  14. Arahant Member

    kedavis (View Comment):
    The wrong number makes it show up in the wrong position when you download it, too.

    Ooh, like an Easter egg hunt.

    • #14
    • September 20, 2019, at 8:39 PM PDT
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  15. Gary Robbins Reagan

    The best Democrat, by far, is Montana Governor Steve Bullock, who is not an option in the Long Poll.

    • #15
    • September 20, 2019, at 8:57 PM PDT
    • 1 like
  16. Blue Yeti Admin

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Ricochet Podcast #265

    The Class of ’87

    #265? Really? And in all these hours nobody else noticed or thought to comment?

    Damn, one of my dumber typos. Now fixed.

    I also completely forgot to end this show with a song by The Cars to play Ric Ocasek out. Had that in my head all week. Well, this is what I should have closed the show with:

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    • September 20, 2019, at 9:08 PM PDT
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  17. Blue Yeti Admin

    Arahant (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    #265? Really? And in all these hours nobody else noticed or thought to comment?

    Eh, who bothers to look besides you? When has it ever been right? James said it was 465. Close enough.

    He said the right number because it was correct on the rundown. I just mistyped it into the CMS. 

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    • September 20, 2019, at 9:12 PM PDT
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  18. Arahant Member

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    He said the right number because it was correct on the rundown. I just mistyped it into the CMS. 

    You’ll have to assign one of your peons to beat you.

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    • September 20, 2019, at 9:14 PM PDT
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  19. Jdetente Member

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Ricochet Podcast #265

    The Class of ’87

    #265? Really? And in all these hours nobody else noticed or thought to comment?

    Damn, one of my dumber typos. Now fixed.

    I also completely forgot to end this show with a song by The Cars to play Ric Ocasek out. Had that in my head all week. Well, this is what I should have closed the show with:

    One of their best. Great choice.

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    • September 20, 2019, at 9:26 PM PDT
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  20. James Lileks Contributor

    I also completely forgot to end this show with a song by The Cars to play Ric Ocasek out. Had that in my head all week. Well, this is what I should have closed the show with:

    One of their best. Great choice.

    The model for the “Candy-O” Vargas illustration was Candy Moore, who played Lucy’s teen daughter on The Lucy Show. 

    She is, at this moment, 72 years old.

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    • September 20, 2019, at 10:02 PM PDT
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  21. Mr Nick Member

    James Lileks (View Comment):

     

    I also completely forgot to end this show with a song by The Cars to play Ric Ocasek out. Had that in my head all week. Well, this is what I should have closed the show with:

    One of their best. Great choice.

    The model for the “Candy-O” Vargas illustration was Candy Moore, who played Lucy’s teen daughter on The Lucy Show.

    She is, at this moment, 72 years old.

    Would have fit perfectly with the Soprano-like image of James Lileks smoking a cigar on his porch as the geese fly south…

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    • September 21, 2019, at 2:08 AM PDT
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  22. OccupantCDN Coolidge

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    Guruforhire (View Comment):

    If netflix can hold on a few years, most of the studios will license their content again. This current phase is large content companies trying to forward integrate because they think they have strategic control point with their content which will force users to subscribe to them.

    The thing about netflix is that it created a convenient a la carte system.

    I am not going to subscribe to HBO go. I just won’t watch their content. I am not going to subscribe to Disney or CBS whatever, I just wont watch their content.

    The only reason I subscribe to ANY of these services is for shows for my kids.

    I agree. I think Disney has the best chance to be successful, between their classic Disney content, Marvell and Star Wars they have a library that has a broad fan base. Is netflix really the most vulnerable? or is Amazon Prime?

    Nobody subscribes to amazon prime just for the video. There’s so much more that comes with it, even besides the free shipping.

    I think service hopping is going to be a thing. Subscribe to a service for a month or two, cancel and move on to the next one.

     

    I kind of have. I signed up in Jan thinking I was going to buy a new laptop – but then never found the one I wanted at a price I liked. Amazon seems kind of expensive for that kind of thing – like Costco. The one large purchase I did make on Amazon, a stand mixer, wasnt shipped overnight at all. 4 day delivery only.

    I think you’re right, I think if the streaming market fragments like that there will be a large population of streaming locust who’ll migrate from service to service, devour everything and then move on… Maybe the services would counter with discounts or packages for annual subscriptions?

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    • September 21, 2019, at 2:20 AM PDT
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  23. Jon1979 Lincoln

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    I also completely forgot to end this show with a song by The Cars to play Ric Ocasek out. Had that in my head all week. Well, this is what I should have closed the show with:

    One of their best. Great choice.

    The model for the “Candy-O” Vargas illustration was Candy Moore, who played Lucy’s teen daughter on The Lucy Show.

    She is, at this moment, 72 years old.

    Not exactly the same type of vibe she gave off on “The Lucy Show”. On the other hand, she did date Michael J. Pollard, so there had to be a dirty girl hiding in there somewhere…

    .

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    • September 21, 2019, at 3:20 AM PDT
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  24. kedavis Member

    Rob’s point/question-to-Byron about how Trump leaving office will take the reputations of many previously-respected government agencies with him, was interesting. Some – including some on Ricochet – would like argue that is another reason why Trump should not have been elected to start with. But Trump not being elected, wouldn’t really have given those agencies undeserved sterling reputations. Trump didn’t make them bad. The reputations were clearly undeserved, they just hadn’t previously been exposed. So that’s another way Trump has done the country a huge favor.

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    • September 21, 2019, at 4:16 AM PDT
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  25. The Cloaked Gaijin Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    The best Democrat, by far, is Montana Governor Steve Bullock, who is not an option in the Long Poll.

    Are you sure you don’t like him because Bullock sounds like The Bulwark?

    Which Democrat do I want elected?

    Reminds me of that Star Trek episode, I, Mudd.

    Spock: …party has his choice. Death by electrocution, death by gas, death by phaser, death by hanging…

    Harry Mudd: The key word in your entire peroration, Mr. Spock, was… d-d-d-DEATH.

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    • September 21, 2019, at 5:50 AM PDT
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  26. OccupantCDN Coolidge

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Rob’s point/question-to-Byron about how Trump leaving office will take the reputations of many previously-respected government agencies with him, was interesting. Some – including some on Ricochet – would like argue that is another reason why Trump should not have been elected to start with. But Trump not being elected, wouldn’t really have given those agencies undeserved sterling reputations. Trump didn’t make them bad. The reputations were clearly undeserved, they just hadn’t previously been exposed. So that’s another way Trump has done the country a huge favor.

    Andrew Klavan, has made the point that the left infects an organization like the New York Times, eventually controlling it. And like the insect alien from MIB wear the organization’s reputation like a skin suit. Eventually they erupt from the skin suit and show their true selves.

    I think the end of the Obama Administration and the unexpected election results shows what they believe about themselves and about the American Peoples. Its amazing how quickly the democrat party machine installed itself into the deep state of the federal government, and how its decided to be ungovernable when there is a republican in charge.

    Could you imagine how city of Detroit or Chicago would respond if there where suddenly a republican elected? Mass resignations, illegal strikes, sick outs… destruction of records… it would be chaos.

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    • September 21, 2019, at 6:19 AM PDT
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  27. Gary Robbins Reagan

    The Cloaked Gaijin (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    The best Democrat, by far, is Montana Governor Steve Bullock, who is not an option in the Long Poll.

    Are you sure you don’t like him because Bullock sounds like The Bulwark?

    Which Democrat do I want elected?

    Reminds me of that Star Trek episode, I, Mudd.

    Spock: …party has his choice. Death by electrocution, death by gas, death by phaser, death by hanging…

    Harry Mudd: The key word in your entire peroration, Mr. Spock, was… d-d-d-DEATH.

    The answer to Mr. Mudd is obviously, death by old age.

    The answer to Mr. Long is Steve Bullock, followed in rough order by John Delaney, John Hickenlooper (withdrawn), Micheal Bennet, Amy Klobuchar, and Joe Biden, long before the greater honors of Harris, Warren, and Sanders.

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    • September 21, 2019, at 7:46 AM PDT
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  28. Arahant Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    …long before the greater honors of…

    Autocorrect can be rough this early in the morning.

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    • September 21, 2019, at 7:47 AM PDT
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  29. Jon1979 Lincoln

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Rob’s point/question-to-Byron about how Trump leaving office will take the reputations of many previously-respected government agencies with him, was interesting. Some – including some on Ricochet – would like argue that is another reason why Trump should not have been elected to start with. But Trump not being elected, wouldn’t really have given those agencies undeserved sterling reputations. Trump didn’t make them bad. The reputations were clearly undeserved, they just hadn’t previously been exposed. So that’s another way Trump has done the country a huge favor.

    Andrew Klavan, has made the point that the left infects an organization like the New York Times, eventually controlling it. And like the insect alien from MIB wear the organization’s reputation like a skin suit. Eventually they erupt from the skin suit and show their true selves.

    I think the end of the Obama Administration and the unexpected election results shows what they believe about themselves and about the American Peoples. Its amazing how quickly the democrat party machine installed itself into the deep state of the federal government, and how its decided to be ungovernable when there is a republican in charge.

    Could you imagine how city of Detroit or Chicago would respond if there where suddenly a republican elected? Mass resignations, illegal strikes, sick outs… destruction of records… it would be chaos.

    Prior to Bill Clinton’s election, George Will made a habit on the ABC roundtables and elsewhere of pointing out the Republicans by the end of the 1980s had won five of the previous seven presidential elections. Now take that statistical bit of overconfidence and multiply it by a factor of 10, and you get to where many Democrats were after Obama’s 2012 re-election.

    The had completely bought into The Emerging Democratic Majority, to the point they truly thought they no longer had to care what people in Red States or Red-leaning areas thought. Trump’s win destroyed their world view, and many have coped by angrily claiming/believing Trump didn’t win.

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    • September 21, 2019, at 8:19 AM PDT
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  30. Gary Robbins Reagan

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    …long before the greater honors of…

    Autocorrect can be rough this early in the morning.

    I was tempted to correct it but decided against doing so. Great catch.

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    • September 21, 2019, at 9:34 AM PDT
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