Taking Trips

This week, we reunite the cast and they tell us a bit about their summer trips (or swanky conferences). Then, the EPCC’s Henry Olsen joins us for some rank punditry® on 2020 and Trump’s re-election chances, as well as keeping the Senate and winning back the House. Also, Iran, China, Italy, and yes, Costa Rica.

Music from this week’s show: Volare (Nel Blu Di Pinto Di Blu) by Dean Martin

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  1. Henry Castaigne Member
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    ctlaw (View Comment):

    Rob’s assertion, starting at 52:38, that the Chinese are terrified of the prospect that’s “really not that far away… 2, 3, 4 years”of iPhones being 3D printed in local Apple stores has to be the stupidest thing he’s ever said.

    Must have been some sort of iowaska flashback.

    Why? How can you know when 3d printing will become a thing? 

    • #31
  2. Samuel Block Support
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    Peter Robinson outside the Duomo di Firenze in Florence.

    Does that mean you were there, too?

    I was! We shot some upcoming episodes of Uncommon Knowledge there.

    Neat. What’s the delay between filming and airing? 

    • #32
  3. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    I checked his references about post-traumatic stress disorder. The incredible success in treating PTSD is very real. 

    • #33
  4. Petty Boozswha Inactive
    Petty Boozswha
    @PettyBoozswha

    I agree with Rob – this was the most normal and reassuring thing Trump has done.  If he would lay off the extremely stable genius rhetoric and act like this more often I wouldn’t grind my teeth every time I think of him being our President.

    And I was surprised to hear Klobachar mentioned again. Of all the Dem candidates I think she would damage the country the least, but hasn’t she kind of Chris Christie-d herself with the comb-gate problem the way he did with bridgegate?

    • #34
  5. Scott Wilmot Member
    Scott Wilmot
    @ScottWilmot

    Taras (View Comment):
    Do you remember when “Is the Pope a Catholic” was a rhetorical question?

    As far as I can recall, that question has been asked in two posts here:

    Is the Pope Catholic? Or, is he a Gaiaist?

    The Jokey Answer to a dumb Question

    It wouldn’t surprise me if others have asked this question as well. Lots of grist for the mill from Bergoglio.

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  6. ctlaw Coolidge
    ctlaw
    @ctlaw

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    ctlaw (View Comment):

    Rob’s assertion, starting at 52:38, that the Chinese are terrified of the prospect that’s “really not that far away… 2, 3, 4 years”of iPhones being 3D printed in local Apple stores has to be the stupidest thing he’s ever said.

    Must have been some sort of iowaska flashback.

    Why? How can you know when 3d printing will become a thing?

    Really there are many approaches to this situation.

    The first involves the absurdity of his timeline for any significant innovation. If something was 4 years out we would already have seen laboratory scale implementations and a huge footprint in literature , patents, etc. Nothing even remotely exists like that. As an aside, that’s how I knew Theranos was a scam. At the time they were hyping imminent launch, their patent portfolio looked like they were a good 3 years away.

    The second involves the particular problems at hand. How are you going to 3D print ICs and other components? This is something that is not just 50 years off, it’s a never. The precision required would require a massive piece of equipment just to limit the impact of vibrations, etc. Ever been in a chip fab.? Heard of clean rooms, vibration isolation, etc.?

    The third highlights the derangement of even thinking about it. Why would you want to locally build? What is the benefit? Cutstomization? How much is possible? Not much. There is difficulty in generating the custom design. There are FCC approval issues for any design revision. Speed? What customization requires local manufacture in a world of air cargo next day delivery? What happens when 50 customers want a new phone at once and the printer can make 2 per day? What then happens when demand at a given store drops. You have real crappy utilization.

    I could go on and on.

     

    • #36
  7. filmklassik Inactive
    filmklassik
    @filmklassik

    Taras (View Comment):

    Interesting to hear Rob Long defend Donald Trump on the Iran stepdown. Certainly unusual, if not a first.

    Well, you know what they say about stopped clocks …

    “A broken clock is right twice a day.”

    Got it.  In other words:  “I see you finally went and defended Trump, huh, Rob?  Well, I guess you were bound to be right eventually.”

    You do understand, don’t you, that what you wrote about Rob just now indicates a belief that not supporting Trump on a given issue is, by definition, wrong.

    Which is kinda frightening.

    • #37
  8. James Lileks Contributor
    James Lileks
    @jameslileks

    Samuel Block (View Comment):
    In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had five hundred years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce?…The cuckoo clock.” — Orson Welles as “Harry Lime” in The Third Man (1949).

    It’s a great quote, old man (as Harry would say) but dishonest. They didn’t just have 500 years of democracy and peace; they constructed it and perpetuated it, and created the place where people are most likely to send their Michelangelos for safe keeping when their civilization reverts to its characteristic barbarity.

    BTW, if you are a fan of The Third Man, there’s a batch of radio shows about Harry Lime, starring Orson Welles. 

    • #38
  9. James Lileks Contributor
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    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    And I was surprised to hear Klobachar mentioned again. Of all the Dem candidates I think she would damage the country the least, but hasn’t she kind of Chris Christie-d herself with the comb-gate problem the way he did with bridgegate?

    That was a pretty good hip-check right out of the gate, but I think what’s kept her down is her early insistence that you can’t have everything you want because there’s not a way to pay for it. This isn’t an election cycle for grown-ups. 

    • #39
  10. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):

    I agree with Rob – this was the most normal and reassuring thing Trump has done. If he would lay off the extremely stable genius rhetoric and act like this more often I wouldn’t grind my teeth every time I think of him being our President.

    And I was surprised to hear Klobachar mentioned again. Of all the Dem candidates I think she would damage the country the least, but hasn’t she kind of Chris Christie-d herself with the comb-gate problem the way he did with bridgegate?

     She would also have a harder time making the “I’m nicer than the nasty orange man“ argument. 

    • #40
  11. Taras Coolidge
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    @Taras

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Interesting to hear Rob Long defend Donald Trump on the Iran stepdown. Certainly unusual, if not a first.

    Well, you know what they say about stopped clocks …

    “A broken clock is right twice a day.”

    Got it. In other words: “I see you finally went and defended Trump, huh, Rob? Well, I guess you were bound to be right eventually.”

    You do understand, don’t you, that what you wrote about Rob just now indicates a belief that not supporting Trump on a given issue is, by definition, wrong.

    Which is kinda frightening.

    Well, let’s say, wrong most of the time.

    That is, if you’re Republican or a conservative.  Attacking the leader of your own side ought to be the last resort.  (Say,  if Trump came out for Medicare for All.)

    Which is the point of Ronald Reagan’s 11th Commandment.

    • #41
  12. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Blondie (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):

    For two weeks I do this show and, being self conscious about my rather ancient tastes in music, close with Chicago and the Beatles. Yeti comes back and drops Dino on me.

    Stai scherzando?

    If it makes you feel better, the first thought I had when I heard Dino was, “I thought EJ said Blue Yeti was back this week.”

    I wanted to use the Gypsy Kings’ very cool version of Volare, but it’s in Spanish.

    But it says Gipsy right there on the cover…

    • #42
  13. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    ctlaw (View Comment):

    Rob’s assertion, starting at 52:38, that the Chinese are terrified of the prospect that’s “really not that far away… 2, 3, 4 years”of iPhones being 3D printed in local Apple stores has to be the stupidest thing he’s ever said.

    Must have been some sort of iowaska flashback.

    Rob’s “trip” really doesn’t seem to have been a positive thing.  Not from the outside, at least.  He might think it’s all great, but that’s a common symptom of a… “problem.”

    By the way, did you hear Rob’s pitch for a brand new sitcom?  It’s about this odd group of regulars at a bar in Boston, y’see, and…

    • #43
  14. Henry Castaigne Member
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    @HenryCastaigne

    ctlaw (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    ctlaw (View Comment):

    Rob’s assertion, starting at 52:38, that the Chinese are terrified of the prospect that’s “really not that far away… 2, 3, 4 years”of iPhones being 3D printed in local Apple stores has to be the stupidest thing he’s ever said.

    Must have been some sort of iowaska flashback.

    Why? How can you know when 3d printing will become a thing?

    Really there are many approaches to this situation.

    The first involves the absurdity of his timeline for any significant innovation. If something was 4 years out we would already have seen laboratory scale implementations and a huge footprint in literature , patents, etc. Nothing even remotely exists like that. As an aside, that’s how I knew Theranos was a scam. At the time they were hyping imminent launch, their patent portfolio looked like they were a good 3 years away.

    The second involves the particular problems at hand. How are you going to 3D print ICs and other components? This is something that is not just 50 years off, it’s a never. The precision required would require a massive piece of equipment just to limit the impact of vibrations, etc. Ever been in a chip fab.? Heard of clean rooms, vibration isolation, etc.?

    The third highlights the derangement of even thinking about it. Why would you want to locally build? What is the benefit? Cutstomization? How much is possible? Not much. There is difficulty in generating the custom design. There are FCC approval issues for any design revision. Speed? What customization requires local manufacture in a world of air cargo next day delivery? What happens when 50 customers want a new phone at once and the printer can make 2 per day? What then happens when demand at a given store drops. You have real crappy utilization.

    I could go on and on.

     

    How do you know this stuff? You’d think you were an engineer instead of a lawyer.

    • #44
  15. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    A lawyer who deals with electronics/manufacturing/etc would tend to know a lot more about those areas than one might otherwise expect, just as a lawyer who does mostly real estate deals etc might know a lot of things that one might “normally” expect to come from a Realtor, etc.

    • #45
  16. Blue Yeti Admin
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    @BlueYeti

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Blondie (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):

    For two weeks I do this show and, being self conscious about my rather ancient tastes in music, close with Chicago and the Beatles. Yeti comes back and drops Dino on me.

    Stai scherzando?

    If it makes you feel better, the first thought I had when I heard Dino was, “I thought EJ said Blue Yeti was back this week.”

    I wanted to use the Gypsy Kings’ very cool version of Volare, but it’s in Spanish.

    But it says Gipsy right there on the cover…

    The album cover has a typo in it. 

    • #46
  17. Dr.Guido Member
    Dr.Guido
    @DrGuido

    I think Rob may be borderline delusional about ‘Red” China. Vietnamese incursions more than a few times…winking at Kim instead of reining him in and eliminating nukes on his border WHILE causing the Japanese to reconsider its post WWII passive stance…building new military bases in the South China Sea. Threatening to move on Taiwan and Hong Kong….There are 185 times more people in the mainland than in HK so all Xi needs to do is IGNORE HK demands that he live up to the 1997 agreement. He loses NO FACE by saying—BRAGGING!—that they in Beijing are living up to the accord. In fact Xi would gain massive #s of brownie points with the entire Western civilized world by doing so! Instead, they continue to lie about TianAnMen Square…they threaten Taiwan and in a 100% unnecessary adventure pretend that Lam, not they, came up with the phony extradition brouhaha. Sorry, Mr. Long—-I go back to 1968 studying China and Mandarin Chinese…..(Suggestion: Pick up The 100 Year Marathon and be ready for a jolt of realpolitik, Beijing style.)

    • #47
  18. Dr.Guido Member
    Dr.Guido
    @DrGuido

    PETER–I’ve been to Tuscany a dozen times since 1963. Next time you go let me know…I’ll troll you and make sure that you will change your mind about FOOD IN ITALY.  As it is, going for Italian-American meatballs and spaghetti has given me near terminal agita!

    • #48
  19. Wolfsheim Member
    Wolfsheim
    @Wolfsheim

    Having recently returned to East Asia from living just south of Firenze, I was pleased to hear about Peter Robinson’s visit to Dante’s birthplace and took note of his interesting historical comments. And at the end of the podcast, it was also a pleasure to hear the brave attempt on the part of the triumvirate to recite the beginning of La Divina Commedia nella lingua originale.

    • #49
  20. Pugshot Inactive
    Pugshot
    @Pugshot

    Mrs. Pugshot and I spent the month of February in Florence. We studied Renaissance art history at the British Institute, stayed at a wonderful hotel that was a former convent (the Horto Convento) that was on the southside of the Arno near the edge of the ancient city (right next to a portion of what I believe was the old city wall. Quiet, peaceful, wonderful staff, immense breakfasts included each morning. It was a bit of a walk over to the “central” city, but that meant it was much more peaceful and the area was essentially tourist-free; it also meant we got a lot of exercise during the month. Several nice and inexpensive restaurants nearby that were not overrun with tourists and yet were friendly and open to Americans. I was in good enough shape by the end of the month that I climbed the dome of the cathedral (Santa Maria Maggiore) in the morning and then came back in the afternoon and climbed the bell tower. We had intended to do weekend trips to other locations outside Florence, but for a variety of reasons we never got out of Florence. Not really a problem because there is an enormous amount to see in that city. Peter was right – even in February (which we thought would be low tourist season) there were tons of tourists. We toured the Uffizi early one morning and I still had to wait at most of the famous paintings while groups of Japanese tourists clustered around the paintings taking selfies. Peter was also right about the churches: beautiful, peaceful, and largely unattended – I found myself wishing I was Catholic so that I could appreciate them more. Peter must have been in ecstasy dropping in on the churches!

    • #50
  21. Blue Yeti Admin
    Blue Yeti
    @BlueYeti

    Samuel Block (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    Peter Robinson outside the Duomo di Firenze in Florence.

    Does that mean you were there, too?

    I was! We shot some upcoming episodes of Uncommon Knowledge there.

    Neat. What’s the delay between filming and airing?

    First one (with David Berlinski —father of Claire—) should air in mid-July.  

    • #51
  22. Samuel Block Support
    Samuel Block
    @SamuelBlock

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Samuel Block (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    Peter Robinson outside the Duomo di Firenze in Florence.

    Does that mean you were there, too?

    I was! We shot some upcoming episodes of Uncommon Knowledge there.

    Neat. What’s the delay between filming and airing?

    First one (with David Berlinski —father of Claire—) should air in mid-July.

    Excellent! Looking forward to that.

    • #52
  23. Patrick McClure Coolidge
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    Pugshot (View Comment):
    I found myself wishing I was Catholic

    I have four words for you- R C I A.

    • #53
  24. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    I wanted to use the Gypsy Kings’ very cool version of Volare, but it’s in Spanish.

    Why would that matter?

    • #54
  25. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    I wanted to use the Gypsy Kings’ very cool version of Volare, but it’s in Spanish.

    Why would that matter?

    Because it was pinned to a discussion about Italy. 

    • #55
  26. Arahant Member
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    @Arahant

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    I wanted to use the Gypsy Kings’ very cool version of Volare, but it’s in Spanish.

    Why would that matter?

    Because it was pinned to a discussion about Italy.

    International, man. Why limit the travel? 😁

    • #56
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