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   kedavis

   @kedavis

   11:56 AM EDT ⋅ Oct 14, 2022

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   @ kedavis — I assumed most people knew this already:

   “People who use heroin typically report feeling a surge of pleasurable sensation—a ‘rush.’ … After the initial effects, users usually will be drowsy for several hours …”

   https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/heroin/what-are-immediate-short-term-effects-heroin-use

   Heroin and morphine users get violent only when they don’t have their favorite drug.

   Which at least implies keeping them somewhere that they can only use the drugs, and they get it whenever they want, as much as they want. Which seems like it’s going to not go over well for similar reasons as with institutionalizing the mentally ill.

   I’m not sure what you’re trying to say.

   Aside from enforcing DUI laws against them, you can pretty much leave the addicts to their own devices.

   Just be sure they understand that sharing drugs with a child will bring an end to the good times!

   There’s a lot more to it than just DUI. But maybe some people know that because they’ve lived closer to or even within some affected areas.

   Are you thinking that the people who “do their business” on the streets and sidewalks of places like San Francisco AREN’T drug-users?

   Mentally ill, more likely; though the two populations overlap.

   Obviously laws against public defecation need to be enforced, whether the guilty parties are mentally ill or addicts or drunks or just lazy. The addicts, at least, could be threatened with having their drugs taken away if they misbehave.

   But they’re druggies, especially when under the influence they don’t care about behaving, and probably when not under the influence too.

   Plus if you take their drugs away, that’s when they become the most violent.

   Just to clarify: at that point they are behind bars.

   So you’re arguing for legal drug use only for those who are willing to be pre-incarcerated? I don’t think you’ll get a lot of public support for that.

   I sometimes make the mistake of assuming people read comments with brain fully engaged.

   Anyway, just to clarify, the only practical way you can take people’s drugs away is by locking those people up and not letting them have them. Which gives drug addicts a strong motive to behave themselves.

   I just wanted specificity.  Are these people in the public, or are they already confined as some have espoused?  If they misbehave in public, do you incarcerate them first, or take away their drugs first?  If incarcerated, do they still get drugs unless they further misbehave while incarcerated?  If not, why not?  And what about them becoming violent then?  If they lose the drugs for misbehavior while remaining in public, nobody can be surprised if they then misbehave.  So whose fault is that really?

2. Coolidge
   kedavis

   @kedavis

   11:57 AM EDT ⋅ Oct 14, 2022

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   LETS MAKE THIS LONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

   THAT’S WHAT SHE SAID!!!

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   RufusRJones

   @RufusRJones

   11:58 AM EDT ⋅ Oct 14, 2022

   kedavis (View Comment):
   So whose fault is that really?

   Who is to blame for the power of the Mexican cartels?  That is a way worse problem.

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   RufusRJones

   @RufusRJones

   11:58 AM EDT ⋅ Oct 14, 2022

   LONG! LONG! LONG! GO! GO! GO!

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   RufusRJones

   @RufusRJones

   12:00 PM EDT ⋅ Oct 14, 2022

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   LETS MAKE THIS LONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

   THAT’S WHAT SHE SAID!!!

   I want 14 more posts of worthless parsing of nothing.

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   Taras

   @Taras

   4:00 PM EDT ⋅ Oct 14, 2022

   @kedavis — If prison authorities let addicts have their favorite drugs, it’s a lot like when California moves “transgender women” prisoners to women’s prison …

   PUBLIC DEFENDER:  Good news!  We’re appealing your sentence.

   TRANSGENDER WOMAN PRISONER:  Great … can you make it longer?

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   RufusRJones

   @RufusRJones

   12:06 AM EDT ⋅ Oct 15, 2022

   Hugh Hewitt had a guy on that wrote a long article about how the Chinese and the Mexican cartels are helping themselves back and forth laundering money. I swear to God it’s like fractional reserve banking for organized crime. That’s the way I interpreted it. Hard drugs and organized crime are a completely separate category that needs to be handled that way. 

   It’s a really long article I might get a read later.