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We know you like it when the hosts get into it and we know you like it when one of them gets triggered by a certain Chief Executive. So –no spoilers!– we think you’ll enjoy the opening segment of today’s Big Show. But stick around, because we want to introduce you to two members of the media we think you ought to be aware of. First up: Alex Berenson, once a card carrying member of the elite media (the New York Times) and now a novelist who does some independent journalism on the side. His work on COVID over the past six months (available on Twitter and on his website  is not to be missed. Then, meet Andrew Beaton, who covers sports for the Wall Street Journal. His no nonsense reporting on COVID and sports and the impact of the social justice movement is not to be missed. But that’s not all: we’ve got a new Lileks Post of The Week, courtesy of  @DoctorRobert  (it’s about oboes). Finally, we lost a great one this week. Well, those of us who were aware  of him did. Guess which one of our podcasters is not really aware of the contributions to the culture Edward Van Halen left us?

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  1. Gary Robbins Member
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    This picture pretty well sums it up.  At the 49 second point.

    • #151
  2. Headedwest Coolidge
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    EHerring (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    EHerring (View Comment):
    I will not trust anyone who abandoned us for the Democrats.

    Right. I wasn’t really thinking about that. I was more thinking about Rob freaking out. The ones that have big leverage and are using it against Trump really need to be remembered.

    #GaryWantsSinglePayer

    I don’t consider Rob a Never Trumper. He is just a lovable sceptic.

    Lovable? No.

    • #152
  3. Gary Robbins Member
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    Headedwest (View Comment):

    EHerring (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    EHerring (View Comment):
    I will not trust anyone who abandoned us for the Democrats.

    Right. I wasn’t really thinking about that. I was more thinking about Rob freaking out. The ones that have big leverage and are using it against Trump really need to be remembered.

    #GaryWantsSinglePayer

    I don’t consider Rob a Never Trumper. He is just a lovable sceptic.

    Lovable? No.

    Rob is one of our founders.

    • #153
  4. Headedwest Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Headedwest (View Comment):

    EHerring (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    EHerring (View Comment):
    I will not trust anyone who abandoned us for the Democrats.

    Right. I wasn’t really thinking about that. I was more thinking about Rob freaking out. The ones that have big leverage and are using it against Trump really need to be remembered.

    #GaryWantsSinglePayer

    I don’t consider Rob a Never Trumper. He is just a lovable sceptic.

    Lovable? No.

    Rob is one of our founders.

    Doesn’t make him lovable. 

    • #154
  5. kedavis Coolidge
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    Headedwest (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Headedwest (View Comment):

    EHerring (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    EHerring (View Comment):
    I will not trust anyone who abandoned us for the Democrats.

    Right. I wasn’t really thinking about that. I was more thinking about Rob freaking out. The ones that have big leverage and are using it against Trump really need to be remembered.

    #GaryWantsSinglePayer

    I don’t consider Rob a Never Trumper. He is just a lovable sceptic.

    Lovable? No.

    Rob is one of our founders.

    Doesn’t make him lovable.

    But don’t you see?  Rob is the Reagan of Ricochet!

    • #155
  6. Wolfsheim Member
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    @Wolfsheim

    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    It’s always a great danger for Republicans, conservatives, and libertarians to calculate into their election assessments both polls and stories based on anonymous sources. So much overwhelming evidence exists on the corrupt nature of polls and anonymous “behind-the-scenes” reports that it boggles my mind that people allow those to play into their interpretations of character, truth, and understanding.

    And it’s unfortunate that so few of them tune in regularly to evidence-based detectives who dig out the Truth and are readily willing to admit when they are mistaken. I’m thinking in particular of Dan Bongino’s daily podcast, which is amazing in its ability to provide a solid fact-based understanding of Spygate, for example, which one cannot get anywhere else.

    Yeah, I know, he’s a passionate Trumper. He ridicules his political opponents. But he brings a level of investigative digging, and particularly an extraordinary ability to synthesize discrete and far-apart slivers of data, that truly reveal the underlying corruptions.

    Again, to dismiss Bongino is to miss out, daily, on the latest understanding of why this election is not another mere Republican v Democrat election. It’s so much bigger than that.

    So to dismiss Trump based on his rhetoric, his foolhardy lack of political finesse, and seek to “reset to a balanced GOP” is to reveal an extraordinary misunderstanding of the underlying dynamics of Marxist energy and big money being systematically and intentionally applied to the undermining of this great American experiment. It’s shortsighted. It’s missing the forest for the trees. And in the end, its failing to understanding that there is a real enemy here.

    That enemy is real enough that mild-mannered Thomas Sowell stated on the Mark Levin show dated 7/12/20, “What I see is, if the election goes to Biden, then there’s a good chance that the Democrats will control the two branches of Congress and the White House, and considering the kinds of things they are proposing, that could well be the point of no return for this country.”

    Get real, folks.

    Wise Thomas Sowell is indeed “mild-mannered”–and has seen it all. So is he sounds the alarm, he is not crying wolf. It astounds me that my supposedly well-educated friends, both Americans and Europeans, are so caught up in cursing Trump that they cannot see the danger.

    • #156
  7. EHerring Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    EHerring (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I am tempted to scan and post my Voter Registration card, but I won’t, given that I have already been doxxed on Ricochet.

    “There you go again.”

    I’m also reminded of a story attributed to Lincoln:

    Lincoln: “If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?”

    Person: “Five.”

    Lincoln: “No, four. Calling a tail a leg doesn’t make it one.”

    I expect Lincoln would say that someone who “calls themself” a Republican – a “registered Republican” – who votes for Democrats especially at the top of the ticket, is not really a Republican at all.

    Until yesterday, the last time I had voted for a Democrat was 48 years ago, in 1972.

    If you want to claim that you were a republican from 1972 until yesterday, that still doesn’t defeat the point.

    I am a Republican, not a Trumpican. The sooner we expel Trump and Trumpism, the sooner the Republican can be restored to winning.

    Trump is just the avatar for all of us you are disagreeing with. You aren’t going to expel us.

    Agreed. How are we going to come together is Trump is beaten in a landslide?

    I would likely be willing to vote for any Republican in 2024 whose last name is not “Trump.” Would you be willing to vote for a Trump-Skeptic Republican?

    What reforms would you agree to in the Republican Party? How about:

    1. No Republican can be on the debate stage if they have not released their last 10 years of tax returns?
    2. All delegates will be awarded proportionately doing away with the “Plurality Wins All Delegates” formula that awarded Trump all of South Carolina’s 50 delegates when he won only 33% of the vote and Rubio and Cruz both won 22% each but got no delegates?

    What legislation would you agree to? How about:

    1. A president can declare an emergency to move around appropriated funds only if Congress ratifies that by a majority vote in both houses within 5 days?
    2. A president can impose tariffs only if Congress ratifies that by a majority vote in both houses within 5 days?
    3. A restriction on “Acting” members of the cabinet and department heads, so that all acting heads must have their acting status ratified within 30 days?

    Looks like you would be as bad as the Democrats at changing the rules so the elitists get all the say, drowning out the voices of the unwashed benighted.

    • #157
  8. EHerring Coolidge
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    Headedwest (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Headedwest (View Comment):

    EHerring (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    EHerring (View Comment):
    I will not trust anyone who abandoned us for the Democrats.

    Right. I wasn’t really thinking about that. I was more thinking about Rob freaking out. The ones that have big leverage and are using it against Trump really need to be remembered.

    #GaryWantsSinglePayer

    I don’t consider Rob a Never Trumper. He is just a lovable sceptic.

    Lovable? No.

    Rob is one of our founders.

    Doesn’t make him lovable.

    He is lovable, always a great NR host on their cruises, fun to talk to, great sense of humor. I have even had the pleasure of sitting at his table on one of my speaker nights. There is nothing obnoxious about him.

    • #158
  9. Arahant Member
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    @Arahant

    EHerring (View Comment):
    There is nothing obnoxious about him.

    Until a five-letter name comes up.

    • #159
  10. Gary Robbins Member
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    EHerring (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    EHerring (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I am tempted to scan and post my Voter Registration card, but I won’t, given that I have already been doxxed on Ricochet.

    “There you go again.”

    I’m also reminded of a story attributed to Lincoln:

    Lincoln: “If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?”

    Person: “Five.”

    Lincoln: “No, four. Calling a tail a leg doesn’t make it one.”

    I expect Lincoln would say that someone who “calls themself” a Republican – a “registered Republican” – who votes for Democrats especially at the top of the ticket, is not really a Republican at all.

    Until yesterday, the last time I had voted for a Democrat was 48 years ago, in 1972.

    If you want to claim that you were a republican from 1972 until yesterday, that still doesn’t defeat the point.

    I am a Republican, not a Trumpican. The sooner we expel Trump and Trumpism, the sooner the Republican can be restored to winning.

    Trump is just the avatar for all of us you are disagreeing with. You aren’t going to expel us.

    Agreed. How are we going to come together is Trump is beaten in a landslide?

    I would likely be willing to vote for any Republican in 2024 whose last name is not “Trump.” Would you be willing to vote for a Trump-Skeptic Republican?

    What reforms would you agree to in the Republican Party? How about:

    1. No Republican can be on the debate stage if they have not released their last 10 years of tax returns?
    2. All delegates will be awarded proportionately doing away with the “Plurality Wins All Delegates” formula that awarded Trump all of South Carolina’s 50 delegates when he won only 33% of the vote and Rubio and Cruz both won 22% each but got no delegates?

    What legislation would you agree to? How about:

    1. A president can declare an emergency to move around appropriated funds only if Congress ratifies that by a majority vote in both houses within 5 days?
    2. A president can impose tariffs only if Congress ratifies that by a majority vote in both houses within 5 days?
    3. A restriction on “Acting” members of the cabinet and department heads, so that all acting heads must have their acting status ratified within 30 days?

    Looks like you would be as bad as the Democrats at changing the rules so the elitists get all the say, drowning out the voices of the unwashed benighted.

    So you think that a nominee need win only a plurality of the votes?  How about ranked choice voting?

    • #160
  11. Jeff Hawkins Coolidge
    Jeff Hawkins
    @JeffHawkins

    The next Republican will be “worse than Trump” per the Lincoln Project grifters 

    • #161
  12. Taras Coolidge
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    @Taras

    @garyrobbins — I think the first time I had a positive feeling toward Donald Trump was when he defied the liberal media’s demands that he reveal his tax returns.

    Aside from showing the political courage that eventually helped make me a fan, Trump also understood that a Republican revealing his tax returns is a chump’s game.

    Trump realized that, where the liberal media would ignore or gloss over anything damaging in a Democrat’s tax returns, they would do their best to weaponize a Republican’s returns to do him harm.

    • #162
  13. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    Taras (View Comment):

    @garyrobbins — I think the first time I had a positive feeling toward Donald Trump was when he defied the liberal media’s demands that he reveal his tax returns.

    Aside from showing the political courage that eventually helped make me a fan, Trump also understood that a Republican revealing his tax returns is a chump’s game.

    Trump realized that, where the liberal media would ignore or gloss over anything damaging in a Democrat’s tax returns, they would do their best to weaponize a Republican’s returns to do him harm.

    You mean like “$300 (or is it 500) million owed to WHO, for WHAT????”

    • #163
  14. RufusRJones Member
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    @RufusRJones

    Taras (View Comment):

    @garyrobbins — I think the first time I had a positive feeling toward Donald Trump was when he defied the liberal media’s demands that he reveal his tax returns.

    Aside from showing the political courage that eventually helped make me a fan, Trump also understood that a Republican revealing his tax returns is a chump’s game.

    Trump realized that, where the liberal media would ignore or gloss over anything damaging in a Democrat’s tax returns, they would do their best to weaponize a Republican’s returns to do him harm.

    Leave it up to the candidate. If any candidate for any office can* get elected without releasing their tax returns good for them. This has always bothered me. It’s private information. Leave it at that.

    • #164
  15. RufusRJones Member
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    @RufusRJones

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Would you be willing to vote for a Trump-Skeptic Republican?

    Who are you talking about? Jeff Flake with a fat media contract that requires him to hate Trump? Who in this category are you talking about?

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    1. All delegates will be awarded proportionately doing away with the “Plurality Wins All Delegates” formula that awarded Trump all of South Carolina’s 50 delegates when he won only 33% of the vote and Rubio and Cruz both won 22% each but got no delegates?

    I hope you raise all kinds of hell about how the RNC runs primaries. Keep us apprised.

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    What legislation would you agree to? How about:

    1. A president can declare an emergency to move around appropriated funds only if Congress ratifies that by a majority vote in both houses within 5 days?
    2. A president can impose tariffs only if Congress ratifies that by a majority vote in both houses within 5 days?
    3. A restriction on “Acting” members of the cabinet and department heads, so that all acting heads must have their acting status ratified within 30 days? 

    This move the ball forward for conservatives and libertarians, how? Have you ever brought this stuff up before?

     

     

    • #165
  16. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    Gary listen to this and then explain to me why I should want Biden to win. It’s not very long.

    550: WHAT COULD BE IN HRC’S PURLOINED EMAILS THAT MAY HAVE MOVED POTUS OBAMA TO VOUCHSAFE CROSSFIREHURRICANE, JULY 2016? @LEESMITHDC @THEAMGREATNESS

       https://wabcradio.com/episode/550-what-could-be-in-hrcs-purloined-emails-that-may-have-moved-potus-obama-to-vouchsafe-crossfirehurricane-july-2016-leesmithdc-theamgreatness/    

    • #166
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    Muleskinner, Weasel Wrangler (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    Isnt anyone upset, that Democrats have spent the last 3 years falsely investigating, indicting and persecuting their foes?

    Not so much. Especially when you consider that TDS, at least as manifested in Republicans, could be a variant of Stockholm Syndrome.

    I always considered it more like “Battered Wife Syndrome” – they’re so skittish of the media’s displeasure that they’ll fall over themselves attempting to earn good press. But there is nothing they can do – short of retirement or death – to earn the strange new respect of the media. They should just ‘man up’ and stop issuing press credentials to organizations who endorse democrats.

    • #167
  18. Arahant Member
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    OccupantCDN (View Comment):
    They should just ‘man up’ and stop issuing press credentials to organizations who endorse democrats.

    Okay. So none of those issued. Then what?

    • #168
  19. RufusRJones Member
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    What do I keep telling you? Stay the hell away from the organized Never Trump.

     

     

     

    • #169
  20. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Ronald Reagan is the example, not Trump, of what we should aspire to be.

    I kinda agree. Ronald Reagan was easily the greatest president in my lifetime. Reagan and Trump are both are emblematic of their cultures that they grew up in. Reagan would have turned 18 in 1929, and Trump would have turned 18 in 1964. The American cultures that produced the 2 presidents where very different.

    While you may not like Trump because of his personal defects, I think he’s easily the most genuine president the United States has ever had. (its unfortunate that he’s genuinely Donald Trump) This is why his opponents who try to challenge him on his terms self destruct – its disingenuous when they try on his personality. It comes off like a Shakespearean actor reading an Andrew Dice Clay monologue.

    • #170
  21. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):
    They should just ‘man up’ and stop issuing press credentials to organizations who endorse democrats.

    Okay. So none of those issued. Then what?

    Maybe the press would start treating republicans (in general) fairly. But most importantly Republicans should not be solicitous to a press that would never approve of them.

    • #171
  22. Bishop Wash Member
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    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Ronald Reagan is the example, not Trump, of what we should aspire to be.

    I kinda agree. Ronald Reagan was easily the greatest president in my lifetime. Reagan and Trump are both are emblematic of their cultures that they grew up in. Reagan would have turned 18 in 1929, and Trump would have turned 18 in 1964. The American cultures that produced the 2 presidents where very different.

    While you may not like Trump because of his personal defects, I think he’s easily the most genuine president the United States has ever had. (its unfortunate that he’s genuinely Donald Trump) This is why his opponents who try to challenge him on his terms self destruct – its disingenuous when they try on his personality. It comes off like a Shakespearean actor reading an Andrew Dice Clay monologue.

    Hickory. Dickory. Doc.

    • #172
  23. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    Hey Gary, if you like Lincoln Project videos you will love this:

     

    James Woods on Twitter: ““Trump’s supporters must be removed from society…” https://t.co/G3hsKNfdz5” / Twitter 

     

     

     

    • #173
  24. Mark Alexander Coolidge
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    @MarkAlexander

    If you believe the polls, then you will believe that this Biden/Harris campaign event Friday in Arizona is packed to the rafters…with good intentions.

    Trump. Landslide. Bet on it.

    • #174
  25. Jager Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    EHerring (View Comment):

    Gary thinks that if they could just get rid of Trump, they can rebuild the Republican Party in their NT image. Wrong. The NTs abandoned the party and will not have any say in its path in the future. Trump or no Trump, they are relegated to perpetual wiener dog, yappy status as a fringe minority who can’t displace all the rest of us.

    If there is a Democrat tsunami for the second General election, I would suggest that our Republican Party will reconsider its commitment to Trumpism.

    I am not leaving. And we will rebuild the party without Trumpism.

    There will be a party with out Trump, whether that is in a few months or 4 years. I don’t know what you mean by Trumpism. Deregaulation, conservative judges, tax cuts, strong economic growth, protecting religious freedoms.  These are all things Republicans said they were in favor of for decades.  Better trade deals, no new wars and a strong immigration policy are things that the “base” have been wanting for years. 

    Trumps policies, as pointed out in this podcast, poll better than Trump. Simply getting rid of Trump will not turn the clock back to a time when Rick Wilson and his ilk are important or influential. The NTs will be in the wilderness with or with out Trump in the White House. You can’t put the genie back in the bottle. The Republican voters have now seen that it is possible to move forward on the things that Republican politicians have been promising for decades. 

    So no I don’t think the party will rebuild without “Trumpism”.  The next guy/gal might be a little less jerky and/or better spoken but the policies will stay the same. 

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  26. RufusRJones Member
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    Jager (View Comment):
    Simply getting rid of Trump will not turn the clock back to a time when Rick Wilson and his ilk are important or influential.

    Steve Schmidt is losing it. Just look on twitter. Who is going to trust him? 

    • #176
  27. Arahant Member
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    @Arahant

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    Who is going to trust him? 

    What sane person ever did?

    • #177
  28. RufusRJones Member
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    @RufusRJones

    Arahant (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    Who is going to trust him?

    What sane person ever did?

    When he’s on TV it looks like he lives in a nice pad. All of those Lincoln Project guys look like they are flaming out and most of them have massive negative net worth. They are selling out to Pierre Omidyar. 

    Supposedly, Rick Wilson has never had a TV contract, which is pretty weird. Somebody shovels him money by buying his books.

    • #178
  29. Headedwest Coolidge
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    EHerring (View Comment):

    He is lovable, always a great NR host on their cruises, fun to talk to, great sense of humor. I have even had the pleasure of sitting at his table on one of my speaker nights. There is nothing obnoxious about him.

    So he’s different on a cruise than he is on the podcast.

     

    • #179
  30. EHerring Coolidge
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    @EHerring

    Headedwest (View Comment):

    EHerring (View Comment):

    He is lovable, always a great NR host on their cruises, fun to talk to, great sense of humor. I have even had the pleasure of sitting at his table on one of my speaker nights. There is nothing obnoxious about him.

    So he’s different on a cruise than he is on the podcast.

    The podcast comments are only a small moment in time. We get them for seven days on a cruise. No post-election cruise this year.

     

    • #180
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