About the Lamb, Not the Ham

Andrew Klavan returns to the Ricochet Podcast for a special Good Friday/Easter episode! He, Rob and Peter cover everything from antisemitism—the devil’s flagpole, as Drew calls it—and what it really means to believe that Christ is King; on to poetics, popular fiction, political persuasiveness and the right’s shortcomings as conveyors of truth.

Plus, Peter and Rob give a tribute to the last centrist Democrat, Joe Lieberman; and consider the power of container ships, both as objects and as economic game changers after one knocked out a bridge in Rob’s city of origin.

– Audio this week: Emergency Dispatch recording in Baltimore Harbor

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  1. kedavis Coolidge
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    I find myself wondering why, in addition to police blocking off the ends of the bridge, a couple more vehicles didn’t go down and pick up the people working.  Or at least tell them (in Spanish, I suppose) that they needed to get off.

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  2. WilliamWarford Coolidge
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    James indeed missed a wonderful episode. I read Andrew’s brilliant analysis of Michelangelo’s “Creation of Adam” this morning in the New Jerusalem newsletter (highly recommended) and then listened to this deep conversation this evening. Makes for a good day. 

    I share with Peter the bewilderment over the rise of antisemitism on campuses. The stories just keep coming day after day, and at least I think it’s showing the horrible failure of our schools. Now, how to fix it while the left is firmly in control of the schools is another question. As Andrew said, though, despair is a sin, so let us hope the homeschooling and classical education models can slowly turn things around in the decades to come. But right now, we’re like a cargo ship helplessly drifting toward the Key Bridge. 

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  3. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    WilliamWarford (View Comment):

    James indeed missed a wonderful episode. I read Andrew’s brilliant analysis of Michelangelo’s “Creation of Adam” this morning in the New Jerusalem newsletter (highly recommended) and then listened to this deep conversation this evening. Makes for a good day.

     

    Meanwhile, on the funny Michelangelo side…

     

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  4. WilliamWarford Coolidge
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    @WilliamWarford

    kedavis (View Comment):

    WilliamWarford (View Comment):

    James indeed missed a wonderful episode. I read Andrew’s brilliant analysis of Michelangelo’s “Creation of Adam” this morning in the New Jerusalem newsletter (highly recommended) and then listened to this deep conversation this evening. Makes for a good day.

     

    Meanwhile, on the funny Michelangelo side…

     

    Classic!

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  5. Dr.Guido Member
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    @DrGuido

    Delighted to hear CABRINI get a positive mention, even in passing …Andrew ought to see it since he correctly notes the paucity of good Christian movies. (Peter, too!) This is one of the BEST I’ve seen…

    Grandkids? My mother’s favorite line was that if she knew grandkids would be so great she would have had them first.

    Lastly, as a personal favor, I would appreciate it if one of you could add The Pieta to the Sistine Chapel as …’even better than’ etc …… (Although my mother said that the feeling of falling in love for the first time is very similar to these happenings that were mentioned…)

     

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  6. RufusRJones Member
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    WilliamWarford (View Comment):

    James indeed missed a wonderful episode. I read Andrew’s brilliant analysis of Michelangelo’s “Creation of Adam” this morning in the New Jerusalem newsletter (highly recommended) and then listened to this deep conversation this evening. Makes for a good day.

    I share with Peter the bewilderment over the rise of antisemitism on campuses. The stories just keep coming day after day, and at least I think it’s showing the horrible failure of our schools. Now, how to fix it while the left is firmly in control of the schools is another question. As Andrew said, though, despair is a sin, so let us hope the homeschooling and classical education models can slowly turn things around in the decades to come. But right now, we’re like a cargo ship helplessly drifting toward the Key Bridge.

    Government schools = worse than no value added. Get rid of them.

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  7. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    WilliamWarford (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    WilliamWarford (View Comment):

    James indeed missed a wonderful episode. I read Andrew’s brilliant analysis of Michelangelo’s “Creation of Adam” this morning in the New Jerusalem newsletter (highly recommended) and then listened to this deep conversation this evening. Makes for a good day.

     

    Meanwhile, on the funny Michelangelo side…

     

    Classic!

     

    One?!?

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  8. FredGoodhue Coolidge
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    I learned three new terms on this podcast, “red Caesarism”, “Tenebrae”, and “Ultracrepidarian”.

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  9. colleenb Member
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    @colleenb

    Great podcast. Sorry James missed it. Reminded me why I enjoy Andrew Klavan so much. A real happy warrior and that great laugh.

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  10. Stad Coolidge
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    Just a slight correction on pilots.

    When I was in the Navy (granted, over 40 years ago, and things may have changed), I drove my submarine in and out of port almost always without a pilot.  The only times we took a pilot on board was 1) if we went into a new (unfamiliar) port, and 2) if it was required.  Even so, the pilot never drove the ship.  He wasn’t allowed to give orders – the CO and I (as Officer of the Deck) gave the orders.  We used the pilot for advice on harbor conditions, hazards, etc.

    OTOH, you almost always contacted the harbor master to find out about current conditions, and to get permission to enter, especially if it was a foreign port.

    Also, the pilot was brought out (or picked up) by a pilot ship.  While using a helicopter is possible, it’s far too dangerous for many reasons.

    Great podcast, as usual!

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  11. Wolfsheim Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    WilliamWarford (View Comment):

    James indeed missed a wonderful episode. I read Andrew’s brilliant analysis of Michelangelo’s “Creation of Adam” this morning in the New Jerusalem newsletter (highly recommended) and then listened to this deep conversation this evening. Makes for a good day.

     

    Meanwhile, on the funny Michelangelo side…

    I confess having watched this more times than I can count…And I’m staunchly Catholic…

     

     

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  12. WilliamWarford Coolidge
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    Wolfsheim (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    WilliamWarford (View Comment):

    James indeed missed a wonderful episode. I read Andrew’s brilliant analysis of Michelangelo’s “Creation of Adam” this morning in the New Jerusalem newsletter (highly recommended) and then listened to this deep conversation this evening. Makes for a good day.

     

    Meanwhile, on the funny Michelangelo side…

    I confess having watched this more times than I can count…And I’m staunchly Catholic…

     

     

    I am as well. I don’t recall seeing the in Commandments or anywhere in the NT: “Thout shalt not have a sense of humor,” so I think we’re OK. 

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  13. Wolfsheim Member
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    @Wolfsheim

    Happy Easter!

    Here in Japan, both the Ricochet Podcast and the Andrew Klavan Show appear on Saturday. As I was heading off for Easter Vigil Mass, the dreadful thought came to me that both might be off this week. So when I came home and nervously checked, I found myself utterly delighted to find who the guest was…I had just finished reading The House of Love and Death, the latest in a series of stories much to be recommended.

    I can’t think of anyone who understands and explains the upsurge of antisemitism as well as or better than Andrew Klavan. Peter Robinson  speaks of the small but vocal antisemitic minority on the Stanford campus. My guess is that what those misguided kids, spared, as he points out, of both poverty and war, now share is a post-Christian culture—and that means, as Andrew Klavan so rightly says, a post-Judaic culture.

    He mentions his son Spencer Klavan, who is a stunningly brilliant chip off the old block. Please consider having him on.

     

     

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  14. Richard Jirak Coolidge
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    Dr.Guido (View Comment):

    Delighted to hear CABRINI get a positive mention, even in passing …Andrew ought to see it since he correctly notes the paucity of good Christian movies. (Peter, too!) This is one of the BEST I’ve seen…

    Grandkids? My mother’s favorite line was that if she knew grandkids would be so great she would have had them first.

    Lastly, as a personal favor, I would appreciate it if one of you could add The Pieta to the Sistine Chapel as …’even better than’ etc …… (Although my mother said that the feeling of falling in love for the first time is very similar to these happenings that were mentioned…)

     

    Cabrini is definitely a great movie but I left it wondering why I never saw Cabrini or any of the nuns praying or asking God’s help in all their difficulties. I was not expecting anything like a Kendrick Brothers film, but it seemed like a move I about a strong woman against the patriarchy when that is only a subplot 

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  15. Al Sparks Coolidge
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    Regarding dock workers and stories about dock workers, Peter already mentioned On the Waterfront.  The plot covers a time before shipping containers took over the dockyard.

    If you want to watch a drama that includes a modern portrayal of the dockyard, including the actual containers along with smuggling and human trafficking take a gander at season 2 of The Wire.

    It also covers how automation has affected employment for dock workers, and how much the U.S. was behind because of the unions, and probably still is (The Wire is a little over 20 years old).

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  16. Miffed White Male Member
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    @MiffedWhiteMale

    Al Sparks (View Comment):

    Regarding dock workers and stories about dock workers, Peter already mentioned On the Waterfront. The plot covers a time before shipping containers took over the dockyard.

    If you want to watch a drama that includes a modern portrayal of the dockyard, including the actual containers along with smuggling and human trafficking take a gander at season 2 of The Wire.

    It also covers how automation has affected employment for dock workers, and how much the U.S. was behind because of the unions, and probably still is (The Wire is a little over 20 years old).

    One of the most fascinating b0oks I’ve read in the past few years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Box_(Levinson_book)

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  17. WilliamWarford Coolidge
    WilliamWarford
    @WilliamWarford

    Wolfsheim (View Comment):

    Happy Easter!

    Here in Japan, both the Ricochet Podcast and the Andrew Klavan Show appear on Saturday. As I was heading off for Easter Vigil Mass, the dreadful thought came to me that both might be off this week. So when I came home and nervously checked, I found myself utterly delighted to find who the guest was…I had just finished reading The House of Love and Death, the latest in a series of stories much to be recommended.

    I can’t think of anyone who understands and explains the upsurge of antisemitism as well as or better than Andrew Klavan. Peter Robinson speaks of the small but vocal antisemitic minority on the Stanford campus. My guess is that what those misguided kids, spared, as he points out, of both poverty and war, now share is a post-Christian culture—and that means, as Andrew Klavan so rightly says, a post-Judaic culture.

    He mentions his son Spencer Klavan, who is a stunningly brilliant chip off the old block. Please consider having him on.

     

     

    That’s a great idea — I would love to hear Spencer chatting with the boys!

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