kristol-190aBill Kristol, the editor of The Weekly Standard, is interested in an alternative to Hillary-Trump – a third option on the ballot, preferably a conservative one, and definitely an honorable one. Jay is interested in the same thing. They discuss it in this half-hour – with a mixture of wonder, anxiety, and hope.

 

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There are 11 comments.

  1. BuckeyeSam Inactive

    Trump 2016, Bill.

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    • May 17, 2016, at 2:07 PM PDT
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  2. Lily Bart Inactive

    There are many of us open to an alternative.

    • #2
    • May 17, 2016, at 2:48 PM PDT
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  3. Eugene Kriegsmann Member

    I have disliked Trump for a very long time. His recent run for the presidency simply made my dislike and distrust of him deeper. I am very pleased to be on the same side as people who I have respected for a very long time. People like Jay Nordlinger, Mona Charen, Kevin Williamson, Charlie Cooke, Jonah Goldberg, and a whole host of others who believe that character does matter in the person running for president. I have lost a lot of respect for those who have not only dropped their previous resistance to Trump, but have gone so far as to be advocates for him. I do respect those who can hold their nose and vote for him, though. That is something that I personally can not do, but I do not hold it against them. The former group, those, like Chris Christie and Rick Perry, frankly, disgust me. They remind me of the collaborators in the Vichy government of France. Their choice, unlike the nose holders, isn’t pragmatic. It is self serving.

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    • May 17, 2016, at 3:56 PM PDT
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  4. Goldwaterwoman Thatcher

    So, you few intellectually superior “conservatives” don’t approve of the voter’s choice and are desperately seeking someone who you think, in your brilliance, should be the candidate. You just don’t get it, and there isn’t even a point in arguing with you. But, don’t kid yourselves. You are in the super minority and don’t have even a remote chance of electing someone else. Trump was not my first choice either, but the more you try to take it away from him, the more you fuel the Trump defenders.

    • #4
    • May 17, 2016, at 4:23 PM PDT
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  5. EEM Member
    EEM

    Condi’s name didn’t come up in this conversation. Assuming she’s been approached . . . ? Her answer is still nay, I suppose? She would be a formidable third option.

    • #5
    • May 17, 2016, at 8:33 PM PDT
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  6. The Cloaked Gaijin Member

    Eugene Kriegsmann:The former group, those, like Chris Christie and Rick Perry, frankly, disgust me. They remind me of the collaborators in the Vichy government of France.

    Okay, but if Trump is Hitler, what does that make Hillary Clinton?

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    • May 17, 2016, at 9:07 PM PDT
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  7. MarciN Member

    I agree with Bill Kristol about the effect of this election on young future voters, especially young future Republicans.

    I dread the Clinton-Trump debates, when they start hurling personal insults at each other.

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    • May 17, 2016, at 10:08 PM PDT
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  8. jmelvin Member

    I do wish Mr. Kristol good luck finding a decent 3rd party candidate who will run to represent those of us who wish to support an honorable, conservative candidate.

    • #8
    • May 18, 2016, at 2:17 PM PDT
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  9. Steve Ripley Member

    At this moment, I am firmly in Jay’s camp. I will not vote for Trump in the upcoming California primary. Cruz is the most attractive one still on the CA ballot, so I’ll vote for him.

    Hoping for some kind of miracle at the convention, where Trump is deemed unfit for office and tossed out. I realize that’s not likely, so…

    Come November, I MIGHT consider voting for Trump (since I hate/fear Hillary more), but only if I see some drastic walk-backs from his more looney proposals (deport 11 or 12 million illegals, ban all muslims, to name just 2) to much more rational levels, and if he has a sane and conservative VP and other cabinet positions clearly lined up.

    I would like to see what 3rd party candidate Jay and Bill could suggest, though.

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    • May 18, 2016, at 4:38 PM PDT
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  10. Steve Ripley Member

    goldwaterwoman:So, you few intellectually superior “conservatives” don’t approve of the voter’s choice and are desperately seeking someone who you think, in your brilliance, should be the candidate. You just don’t get it, and there isn’t even a point in arguing with you. But, don’t kid yourselves. You are in the super minority and don’t have even a remote chance of electing someone else. Trump was not my first choice either, but the more you try to take it away from him, the more you fuel the Trump defenders.

    I would point out that roughly 2/3 of the voters have NOT been voting for Trump. His victories have been mostly because of that vote being diluted 16 ways.

    • #10
    • May 18, 2016, at 4:40 PM PDT
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  11. Freesmith Inactive

    Late in the podcast Bill Kristol bemoans “the erosion of the rule of law and constitutional norms,” of “our civic and political structures.”

    Twelve million illegal aliens.

    Sanctuary cities.

    The H-1B visa and refugee resettlement scams.

    The growth of the TSA.

    The left-wing takeover of state-funded universities in states with Republican governors and legislatures.

    The continuing abomination of affirmation action.

    Yes, his preferred candidates sure upheld the rule of law and conserved civic structures.

    • #11
    • May 24, 2016, at 2:03 PM PDT
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