KJT (left); RFK JR (right)

With Steve Hayward back in the host chair this week, the 3WHH actually breaks some real news with special guest Kelly Janes Torrance, the op-ed editor of the indispensible New York Post. This week Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who is attracting surprising interest from many conservatives, visited the Post for a grilling from the Post‘s editorial board, and Kelly Jane opened up her reporter’s notebook to share previously unreported statements RFK Jr offered at their 90-minute meeting. You won’t want to miss her scoops shared exclusively with the 3WHH podcast.

John Yoo was late joining us—apparently he got stuck in an extra long McDonald’s drive-through line right before show time—but did manage to break down the Durham report, and also gets in on the sequels with Kelly Jane, who has a lot of thoughts on the Ukraine situation from her experiences as an election watcher in recent years.

Since KJT is Canadian, we decided to honor her guest turn with exit music from the Barenaked Ladies, “New Kid on the Block,” since we’re definitely going to have her back on 3WHH. As mentioned early in this episode, she may not be a neat whisky drinker, but she has an epic cocktail game.

We’re got a short pre-roll excerpt from John on the Ricochet podcast that we think is appropriate to share with our listeners, though I think Rob Long was not amused!

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  1. Steven Hayward Podcaster
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    Rōnin (View Comment):

    I thought Lucretia b*tch slapped Torrance fairly well over Torrance’s convoluted idea of Ukrainian support, and that somehow allowing the U.S. government to print money, to pay defense manufacture workers to make munitions to “give” to Ukraine somehow “stimulates” our economy. Where did she go to school? Her parents ought to ask for their money back. Steve tried to step in, but he is no match for Lucretia’s Kung Fu – particularly when she been drinking.

    As for RFK Jr. – I could care less. We are long past the days when the Kenney name and/or physical likeness meant anything in today’s political world. Unless he sides with the current power elites in D.C. then he might have a chance.

    I like John Yoo, even though he eats at McDonald’s.

    Hey–I love McDonald’s too!  Back off man!

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  2. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    Steven Hayward (View Comment):

    Rōnin (View Comment):

    I thought Lucretia b*tch slapped Torrance fairly well over Torrance’s convoluted idea of Ukrainian support, and that somehow allowing the U.S. government to print money, to pay defense manufacture workers to make munitions to “give” to Ukraine somehow “stimulates” our economy. Where did she go to school? Her parents ought to ask for their money back. Steve tried to step in, but he is no match for Lucretia’s Kung Fu – particularly when she been drinking.

    As for RFK Jr. – I could care less. We are long past the days when the Kenney name and/or physical likeness meant anything in today’s political world. Unless he sides with the current power elites in D.C. then he might have a chance.

    I like John Yoo, even though he eats at McDonald’s.

    Hey–I love McDonald’s too! Back off man!

    Steve, I found the video from one of your faculty meetings. I now know why you go abroad so often..

    https://youtu.be/moWe3rk7LzQ

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  3. Rōnin Coolidge
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    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Steven Hayward (View Comment):

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    Hey–I love McDonald’s too! Back off man!

    Steve, I found the video from one of your faculty meetings. I now know why you go abroad so often..

    https://youtu.be/moWe3rk7LzQ

    I think I found a fix for that, I’m sure Lucretia would approve:

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  4. Quickz Member
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    Taras (View Comment):

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    Taras (View Comment):]

    “Republicans should have known!” I recall reading that the Heritage Foundation’s specialist on voter fraud spoke to the Trump campaign in 2020, and warned them of the skulduggery to come, but was blown off. The conventional wisdom was that voter fraud isn’t a major factor — and maybe, in a normal election year it isn’t. But 2020 wasn’t a normal election year.

    I wonder who they spoke to – maybe Ben Ginsberg? Lol.

    “Our defense industry is getting paid to sell bombs to what has been known as the most corrupt country in the world for dozens of years.” One powerful sign of a corrupt country is that its military underperforms. For example, training will have been paid for which never occurred; shoddy or nonexistent weapons will have been purchased; unit readiness would be falsified; etc.

    Another powerful sign is the hundreds of articles, reports, analysis by all media from almost all nations over decades on how Ukraine is the most corrupt country in the world, that could be considered…

    And I’m not saying Ukraine stinks, or that they should lose, just pointing out there are plenty of reasons normal folks furrow their brows at our funding of this. If we paid as much as Europe and they paid as much as we are – that would be awesome! Considering they are right next to it and flush with cash… but “reasons” I’m sure…

    According to the 2022 corruption index, Ukraine’s score of 33 puts it 18 countries ahead of Russia (28).

    The average score for “Eastern Europe and Central Asia” is 35, so Ukraine is slightly below average for its region. (If we looked at the military sector alone, where corruption during wartime puts you in front of a firing squad, I suspect Ukraine would do much better!)

    https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2022

    Algeria, Angola, El Salvador, Mongolia, Zambia – great company to keep

    Ukraine is literally the lowest scoring nation in Europe, and the aid they have received is insane:

    That’s almost 8 Billion in aid from 2014-2019 alone. Time to let someone else pay.

    Cheap at the price, especially when you look at the size of the Federal budget, which is reckoned in trillions (thousand billions).

    Ukraine is the boulder, keeping the Russian bear trapped in its cave. Trump was very sound on foreign policy, and his decision to arm Ukraine (after Obama‘s refusal) was a very good one.

    Though I disagree with your analogy (I do wish it was that simple, I would be with you if it was!) I do appreciate your comments, they have highlighted a tendency I have for absolutist language. Thanks for that Taras!

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  5. Albert Arthur Coolidge
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    Taras (View Comment):
    It was part of the reason Harry Truman was tricked into what was probably the greatest foreign policy misstep in American history, refusing to help our brave allies against Japan, the Nationalist Chinese.

    What are you talking about?

    Truman became president in April of 1945 and authorized the use of the atomic bombs in July 1945. Japan surrendered in August 1945. As far as missteps by Truman, how about ceding Eastern Europe to the Russians? 

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  6. Taras Coolidge
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    Albert Arthur (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    It was part of the reason Harry Truman was tricked into what was probably the greatest foreign policy misstep in American history, refusing to help our brave allies against Japan, the Nationalist Chinese.

    What are you talking about?

    Truman became president in April of 1945 and authorized the use of the atomic bombs in July 1945. Japan surrendered in August 1945. As far as missteps by Truman, how about ceding Eastern Europe to the Russians?

    “… the Truman administration’s arms embargo on Nationalist forces signaled the end of America’s alliance with Chiang. U.S. policies during the next few years practically guaranteed a Communist victory. 

    “To be sure, Chiang’s regime included corrupt officials and was not democratic in any sense. But its flaws paled in comparison to the Communists, as history would demonstrate. But Mao and the Communists benefitted from their cheerleaders within the U.S. government and the media. We now know that the FDR-Truman administration had been infiltrated by communist agents, fellow travelers, and useful idiots who promoted the notions that Mao and the Communists were agrarian reformers, and that a communist China would not join the Soviet bloc and, therefore, would pose no threat to U.S. interests.”

    https://www.realclearhistory.com/articles/2020/04/29/history_can_be_unkind_fdr_truman_and_china_490428.html#!

      

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  7. Taras Coolidge
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    Of course, the reason I brought this up is because a new generation of “useful idiots” is now deploying shaky corruption allegations against Ukraine.

    When American Javelin missiles destroyed his tank columns heading for Kyiv, at the beginning of the war, Putin may have bitterly regretted that Ukrainian corruption isn’t what it used to be!

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  8. Albert Arthur Coolidge
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    Oh, I got confused because you wrote that Truman didn’t support the Nationalist Chinese fight the Japanese.

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  9. Taras Coolidge
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    Albert Arthur (View Comment):

    Oh, I got confused because you wrote that Truman didn’t support the Nationalist Chinese fight the Japanese.

    Would you have still misunderstood if I rearranged the last part to “refusing to help the Nationalist Chinese, our brave allies against Japan”?

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  10. Albert Arthur Coolidge
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    Taras (View Comment):

    Albert Arthur (View Comment):

    Oh, I got confused because you wrote that Truman didn’t support the Nationalist Chinese fight the Japanese.

    Would you have still misunderstood if I rearranged the last part to “refusing to help the Nationalist Chinese, our brave allies against Japan”?

    OK, now I understand what you meant. The Nationalist Chinese were allies in WW2 against Japan, but after Japan capitulated, Truman didn’t support the Nationalists and then the Communists won. 

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  11. Bishop Wash Member
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    Taras (View Comment):

    Of course, the reason I brought this up is because a new generation of “useful idiots” is now deploying shaky corruption allegations against Ukraine.

    When American Javelin missiles destroyed his tank columns heading for Kyiv, at the beginning of the war, Putin may have bitterly regretted that Ukrainian corruption isn’t what it used to be!

    That’s what some think happened with the invasion. Putin thought he had people bought off in high places in Ukraine. They were supposed to rollover. Either the money didn’t make it to Ukraine because of Russian corruption or the Ukrainians doesn’t stay bought. 

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  12. Taras Coolidge
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Of course, the reason I brought this up is because a new generation of “useful idiots” is now deploying shaky corruption allegations against Ukraine.

    When American Javelin missiles destroyed his tank columns heading for Kyiv, at the beginning of the war, Putin may have bitterly regretted that Ukrainian corruption isn’t what it used to be!

    That’s what some think happened with the invasion. Putin thought he had people bought off in high places in Ukraine. They were supposed to rollover. Either the money didn’t make it to Ukraine because of Russian corruption or the Ukrainians doesn’t stay bought.

    The problem with being a murderous dictator is that people around you are afraid to tell you anything they know you don’t want to hear:  like that you’re wrong about something.   So when Putin told them, “But for the machinations of an evil Jewish cabal, Ukrainians really want to be Russians,” the yes-men praised Putin for his wisdom.

    With 50 years of experience under his belt, negotiating with psychopaths and megalomaniacs at the highest levels of politics and business and law and sports and entertainment, Trump knew how to manipulate dictators.   He petted Putin with one hand, telling him what a great little dictator he was; while with the other hand he sent weapons to Ukraine, instead of Obama’s blankets and MRE’s.

    And the people around Putin did not dare tell him he was being played for a fool.

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  13. Bishop Wash Member
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    Taras (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Of course, the reason I brought this up is because a new generation of “useful idiots” is now deploying shaky corruption allegations against Ukraine.

    When American Javelin missiles destroyed his tank columns heading for Kyiv, at the beginning of the war, Putin may have bitterly regretted that Ukrainian corruption isn’t what it used to be!

    That’s what some think happened with the invasion. Putin thought he had people bought off in high places in Ukraine. They were supposed to rollover. Either the money didn’t make it to Ukraine because of Russian corruption or the Ukrainians doesn’t stay bought.

    The problem with being a murderous dictator is that people around you are afraid to tell you anything they know you don’t want to hear: like that you’re wrong about something. So when Putin told them, “But for the machinations of an evil Jewish cabal, Ukrainians really want to be Russians,” the yes-men praised Putin for his wisdom.

    With 50 years of experience under his belt, negotiating with psychopaths and megalomaniacs at the highest levels of politics and business and law and sports and entertainment, Trump knew how to manipulate dictators. He petted Putin with one hand, telling him what a great little dictator he was; while with the other hand he sent weapons to Ukraine, instead of Obama’s blankets and MRE’s.

    Interviews with Mike Pompeo in the last few years have been good on this topic. He’s talked about the ways the administration put the screws to Russia behind the scenes while being amicable in public. 

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  14. Taras Coolidge
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Of course, the reason I brought this up is because a new generation of “useful idiots” is now deploying shaky corruption allegations against Ukraine.

    When American Javelin missiles destroyed his tank columns heading for Kyiv, at the beginning of the war, Putin may have bitterly regretted that Ukrainian corruption isn’t what it used to be!

    That’s what some think happened with the invasion. Putin thought he had people bought off in high places in Ukraine. They were supposed to rollover. Either the money didn’t make it to Ukraine because of Russian corruption or the Ukrainians doesn’t stay bought.

    The problem with being a murderous dictator is that people around you are afraid to tell you anything they know you don’t want to hear: like that you’re wrong about something. So when Putin told them, “But for the machinations of an evil Jewish cabal, Ukrainians really want to be Russians,” the yes-men praised Putin for his wisdom.

    With 50 years of experience under his belt, negotiating with psychopaths and megalomaniacs at the highest levels of politics and business and law and sports and entertainment, Trump knew how to manipulate dictators. He petted Putin with one hand, telling him what a great little dictator he was; while with the other hand he sent weapons to Ukraine, instead of Obama’s blankets and MRE’s.

    Interviews with Mike Pompeo in the last few years have been good on this topic. He’s talked about the ways the administration put the screws to Russia behind the scenes while being amicable in public.

    And, of course, Trump could never say what he was doing — or the scam won’t work.   I only figured out what Trump was doing with Putin, after Trump had left office.

    This is the problem of doing foreign policy for show, versus doing foreign policy for real.

    For example, it’s fun to pander to your public by calling the Saudi leader a murderer.   But don’t be surprised that, when you need his help, he does the exact opposite.

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  15. LibertyDefender Member
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    Taras (View Comment):

    With 50 years of experience under his belt, negotiating with psychopaths and megalomaniacs at the highest levels of politics and business and law and sports and entertainment, Trump knew how to manipulate dictators. He petted Putin with one hand, telling him what a great little dictator he was; while with the other hand he sent weapons to Ukraine, instead of Obama’s blankets and MRE’s.

    Baggage – Trump has baggage.

    –J. Hinderaker, Power Line blog.

    Such baggage.

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  16. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
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    LibertyDefender (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    With 50 years of experience under his belt, negotiating with psychopaths and megalomaniacs at the highest levels of politics and business and law and sports and entertainment, Trump knew how to manipulate dictators. He petted Putin with one hand, telling him what a great little dictator he was; while with the other hand he sent weapons to Ukraine, instead of Obama’s blankets and MRE’s.

    Baggage – Trump has baggage.

    –J. Hinderaker, Power Line blog.

    Such baggage.

    Trump has the advantage that any other Republican candidate will be called “worse than Trump” by the media.

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  17. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    Taras (View Comment):

    LibertyDefender (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    With 50 years of experience under his belt, negotiating with psychopaths and megalomaniacs at the highest levels of politics and business and law and sports and entertainment, Trump knew how to manipulate dictators. He petted Putin with one hand, telling him what a great little dictator he was; while with the other hand he sent weapons to Ukraine, instead of Obama’s blankets and MRE’s.

    Baggage – Trump has baggage.

    –J. Hinderaker, Power Line blog.

    Such baggage.

    Trump has the advantage that any other Republican candidate will be called “worse than Trump” by the media.

    Yes, some news outlets came dangerously close to jumping the gun and putting Trump in the “Strange new respect” stage of his career.

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