Are the anticipated coming Trump indictments serious? Defrauding the federal government? Obstructing Congress? Violating the Ku Klux Klan Act? This is indeed John McEnroe territory—”You cannot be serious!” But is it going to work?

Let’s just say this episode revisits the events of January 6 with considerable disagreement among the panel about how it should be understood, what we still don’t know, and how it is afftecting the next election cycle, concerning which, Luretia road-tests her latest outlandish theory. (“We’re going to get comments on this one!”, she promises.)

Then we assay the state of the widening Biden scandals, with Lucretia scorning Steve’s “eternal infernal optimism” that sooner or later the media is going to jump on this scandal. Lucretia and John are skeptical. . .

Finally, are the dividends of the Harvard affirmation action admissions ruling already growing and spreading to the private sector? Have you noticed the news of the growing number of layoffs and shrinkages of corporate DEI offices? Who says there isn’t any good news these days.

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  1. Quickz Member
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    Great cast! Welcome back @johnyoo, I look forward to the day I get to try the McD’s in Korea!

    I think when discussing 1/6 maybe @lucretia meant that no one should be charged because of all the actions by Capitol Police, FBI, etc. etc. that made that event possible. I mean, if we get evidence released that shows that FBI/whatever knew that there was a big crowd planned, they would likely make their way to the Capitol – and instead of erecting a perimeter around the Capitol that would have made entry impossible they decided to do next to nothing… well that’s kinda like entrapment.

    Add to it some purposeful (classic FBI) riling up of folks, encouraging folks, helping folks plan, inviting folks in, having plants in these groups of folks, having folks in the crowd dressed as supporters, and folks inside the building dressed as supporters to lead the folks around once they were purposefully let in…. well, that is again rather entrapment-y.

    In fact, one could argue that whomever in those agencies that allowed this to happen should be charged and punished for their actions – even for their *inactions* that allowed much of that day to happen.

    We all know that there should have been 20,000 extra troops and an actual barrier to approaching the Capitol.

    I am highly suspicious this all just “happened”

    Oh – and the joint session of Congress was halted and evacuated because of the pipe bombs, not the crowds, that came later… interesting..

    Oh this world we live in. Haha. Only way to find out might be for Trump to win next year and get the info from the agencies but maybe Lucretia is right about how they stop him. Or maybe just delete it all. 

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  2. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Ray Epps

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  3. Bishop Wash Member
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    In regards to RFK Jr. and taking out Trump. 

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  4. Painter Jean Moderator
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    It’s hard to take Lucretia seriously. And I sure wish she wouldn’t dominate all of the conversation.

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  5. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    It’s hard to take Lucretia seriously. And I sure wish she wouldn’t dominate all of the conversation.

    She is the best part.

     

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  6. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    It’s hard to take Lucretia seriously. And I sure wish she wouldn’t dominate all of the conversation.

    She is the best part.

     

    Agreed

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  7. Dr.Guido Member
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    As much as I have admired Lucretia  her ‘NO ONE! should be indicted for Jan 6’ is SOOoo extreme as to make much of her other positions suspect. While it appears the vast majority of folks that day were NOT insurrectionists  (I know of a woman who had no intention of entering and whose case is in the next few weeks, but when she followed the crowd in she thought she should give Pelosi a Rosary!) there were clearly folks who were hell-bent on mayhem and while not storm-troopers they were interfering with the proper, legal functioning of Government– and that is NOT an innocent act.

    On the other hand, she may not be condemnatory enough re. the Biden Gang—if the facts that are spilling out are shown to be largely true this becomes EASILY the greatest political/criminal scandal in the Nation’s history —with the upside being the end of the modern American Democrat Party (and much of The Left with it.)

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  8. GlennAmurgis Coolidge
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    Those who participated in Jan-6 should be indited. Those in the FBI who pushed Russia Collusion so do the same. 

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  9. Bishop Wash Member
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    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):

    Those who participated in Jan-6 should be indited. Those in the FBI who pushed Russia Collusion so do the same.

    I wonder what the overlap is between those two groups. 

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  10. Noell Colin the gadfly Coolidge
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    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    It’s hard to take Lucretia seriously. And I sure wish she wouldn’t dominate all of the conversation.

    There is so much wrong with this comment, I’m not even going to start… 

    Greta Thunberg how dare you | HOW DARE YOU; SAY MEAN WORDS ABOUT LUCRETIA! | image tagged in greta thunberg how dare you | made w/ Imgflip meme maker

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  11. Noell Colin the gadfly Coolidge
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    And now for my recurring segment – Jabs at John: 

    I’m bothered by how John holds politicians or their office above ‘the people’. For the thousands of angry people to show up at the capitol and the 700 or so to enter, even at the behest of undercover agents, SOMETHING HAS TO BE VERY WRONG. 
    I won’t get into what is wrong, but how could John give so much deference to scumbag politicians? 
    Oh some people getting unruly at the capitol have to get the book thrown at them. But haven forbid the book be thrown at a politician who isn’t Trump!! 

    Politicians should not be protected. In fact they should be held to a higher standard! Any corruption or poor decision should be met with very severe consequences. Those protesters aren’t the ones making rules 300 million+ have to follow, sending people to war or raping them through bad monetary policy, giving power to the leftist administrative state… 

    It’s my opinion that politicians should live in constant fear of the people. Not the other way around. 
    Now John doesn’t have to go that far, but what I got from him is basically the leftist position that people should be afraid of the government… BAD OPINION MANNNN…. 

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  12. Ernst Rabbit von Hasenpfeffer Member
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    Absent fed agitation, do protestors end up inside the Capitol on January 6?  I think no.

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  13. Noell Colin the gadfly Coolidge
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    Ernst Rabbit von Hasenpfeffer (View Comment):

    Absent fed agitation, do protestors end up inside the Capitol on January 6? I think no.

    Maybe. Issue I have with this line of thinking is that it removes the focus off the overall poor governance from local officials up to the fed.

    Furthermore, thousands of people showed up that day. While some might have been worked up by spooks, PEOPLE SHOWED UP! Why?  

    Look at it this way, why did the agents have a persuasive point to make people go into the capitol? Not because of some Jedi mind trick. Even if the logic around the effort to stop Biden was wrong, why does the sentiment still linger that the government stinks?

    If I’m correct, then we would be in the same situation now irrespective of agents’ involvement and whether or not people went inside the capitol.  

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  14. LibertyDefender Member
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    I was rather nauseated by John Yoo‘s performance in this podcast.  I thought I was listening to Andrew McCarthy of National Review, as John defended the FBI/DoJ Deep State.

    His description of the January 6 actions gave the dishonest impression that there was more violent protesting than there was peaceful protesting.  That’s the sort of cherry-picking of evidence that the fraudulent January 6 Committee did.  Although in John’s case, he didn’t really have any evidence, he just described evidence vaguely.  He did not of course mention seuch evidence as the security camera video that Tucker Carlson broadcasted, that showed the “horn hat guy” being escorted through the Capitol by the Capitol Police, who clearly had no objections to his behavior.

    And the “thoughtful” consideration of how a “neutral” FBI/DoJ investigator might blah blah blah . . . what a crock:

    Crossfire Hurricane started in what – July 2016, and as Lee Smith chronicled, the illegal spying on Trump’s political team had started months prior to that.  Then Robert Mueller took over, and the end result was nearly three years of illegal spying, unjustified prosecutions, dawn raids executing unjustified search warrants – and other assorted abuses of state power, all based on a LIE cooked up by the Hillary campaign, a lie that everyone involved knew from the very start was a lie. 

    As Lucretia pointed out, not a single FBI/DoJ employee blew the whistle or resigned in protest throughout the longstanding and blatant violations of civil and due process rights.  As I often point out, there was NEVER so much as a single leak of exculpatory information to any media of any sort.

    Disgraceful.

    Another 3WHH this bad and I’ll have to cancel my own goddam subscription to Ricochet again.

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  15. Noell Colin the gadfly Coolidge
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    @Apeirokalia

    LibertyDefender (View Comment):

    I was rather nauseated by John Yoo‘s performance in this podcast. I thought I was listening to Andrew McCarthy of National Review, as John defended the FBI/DoJ Deep State.

    His description of the January 6 actions gave the dishonest impression that there was more violent protesting than there was peaceful protesting. That’s the sort of cherry-picking of evidence that the fraudulent January 6 Committee did. Although in John’s case, he didn’t really have any evidence, he just described evidence vaguely. He did not of course mention seuch evidence as the security camera video that Tucker Carlson broadcasted, that showed the “horn hat guy” being escorted through the Capitol by the Capitol Police, who clearly had no objections to his behavior.

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    Disgraceful.

    Another 3WHH this bad and I’ll have to cancel my own goddam subscription to Ricochet again.

    I agree, John is out of control; BUT I’d like to try and isolate John and leave Lucretia and Steve out of this one. 

    I’ve even started a segment called “Jabs at John”. Every week I complain about John’s dull neocon takes… There is one a few posts above…. 

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  16. LibertyDefender Member
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    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):

    Those who participated in Jan-6 should be indited. Those in the FBI who pushed Russia Collusion so do the same.

    Define “participated in Jan-6.”

    1. I was at “The Insurrection.”  So was – to my surprise at the time, John Eastman.  Should Professor Eastman and I be indicted for the same crime?  What crime did either of us commit?
    2. As we all know now, the entire “Russia Collusion” hoax was the brainchild of the Hillary Clinton campaign.  But from the moment of conception, the entire Democrat Party, mainstream media, and the highest levels of the FBI and DoJ were involved.  From the moment of conception. The FBI must be abolished.  Every DoJ employee fired. 

    Scott Adams puts it this way: in our justice system, any accused person is entitled to a presumption of innocence.  In our current government, the only rational presumption is that the government is guilty.

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  17. Ernst Rabbit von Hasenpfeffer Member
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    Noell Colin the gadfly (View Comment):

    John is out of control.

    Oh my God.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Who let’s a baby play with an anchor?

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