With A Machete

We know that we’ve missed a GLoP or two in the past few months. So in an effort to make up for lost GLoPs, we present this super-sized edition, close to 90 minutes long. We won’t delve into the myriad of topics covered in this show except to say it runs the gamut from a brief history of cable, William Hurt and his many flaws, Skeet Ulrich, The Godfather, Brando, the woman who protested the Ukraine war in a Russian TV studio, who should play Zelensky and more. Just listen. And laugh.

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  1. WilliamDean Coolidge
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    Franco (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Quinnie (View Comment):

     

    one podcast out of infinity…. how quaint, they didn’t bloat on about evil Trump this podcast. When they publicly admit they were categorically wrong in their analysis and anti-Trump kneejerk rhetoric, then maybe we will consider listening to their opinions.

     

    Don’t like the podcast? Easy solution: Don’t listen to it.

    But then don’t spam (yes, that’s what your tired and boring comment is) the thread of content you don’t consume and yet feel entitled to criticize it.

    I have some news for you: it wasn’t Jonah, John, and Rob’s fault that Trump lost —oh, sorry— had the election stolen from him.

    But it’s weird that some of you credit people you clearly loathe with so much influence.

    I haven’t listened, despite being a huge Godfather fan, I doubt these guys have any insights I haven’t heard. But I love comments. That’s the interesting part!

    This one says that it wasn’t Jonah, John or Rob’s fault Trump lost. Interesting.

    I say it was. Them and people like them. How so? Because these guys are core pundits for the GOP establishment and they are thought-leaders. They have the eyes and ears of influential Republicans who can throw their lot behind Trump, or decide to split the party loyalties and sabotage initiatives and smear candidates. These men encouraged this kind of behavior. They didn’t beat-up the kid behind the gym themselves, they just went along with the narrative that he deserved to be beaten up.

    I say it’s YOUR fault. Clearly you didn’t do enough to help convince others to vote for Trump. Blame these perceived “thought leaders?” Why aren’t YOU a thought leader?

    • #31
  2. OwnedByDogs Lincoln
    OwnedByDogs
    @JuliaBlaschke

    WilliamDean (View Comment):
    I say it was. Them and people like them. How so? Because these guys are core pundits for the GOP establishment and they are thought-leaders. They have the eyes and ears of influential Republicans who can throw their lot behind Trump, or decide to split the party loyalties and sabotage initiatives and smear candidates. These men encouraged this kind of behavior. They didn’t beat-up the kid behind the gym themselves, they just went along with the narrative that he deserved to be beaten up.

    It was Trump’s fault. 

    • #32
  3. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    WilliamDean (View Comment):
    I say it was. Them and people like them. How so? Because these guys are core pundits for the GOP establishment and they are thought-leaders. They have the eyes and ears of influential Republicans who can throw their lot behind Trump, or decide to split the party loyalties and sabotage initiatives and smear candidates. These men encouraged this kind of behavior. They didn’t beat-up the kid behind the gym themselves, they just went along with the narrative that he deserved to be beaten up.

    It was Trump’s fault.

    Hundreds of thousands of known-improper/illegal/fraudulent votes, in multiple states, say otherwise.

    • #33
  4. Blue Yeti Admin
    Blue Yeti
    @BlueYeti

    kedavis (View Comment):

    It was Trump’s fault.

    Hundreds of thousands of known-improper/illegal/fraudulent votes, in multiple states, say otherwise.

    Dozens of state investigations, recounts, lost court cases, and a  Supreme Court ruling say otherwise to your otherwise. But by all means keep saying it –it’s for sure a winning message with rank and file voters.

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  5. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    It was Trump’s fault.

    Hundreds of thousands of known-improper/illegal/fraudulent votes, in multiple states, say otherwise.

    Dozens of state investigations, recounts, lost court cases, and a Supreme Court ruling say otherwise to your otherwise. But by all means keep saying it –it’s for sure a winning message with rank and file voters.

    Yes, recounting fraudulent ballots over and over wondering why it always comes out the same… the court cases that didn’t actually look at evidence and/or said from the outset that even if the case was proven they wouldn’t do anything… the same Supreme Court that held slavery was legal until it wasn’t… blah blah blah.

    This covers a lot of it, but it’s not exhaustive:

    https://ricochet.com/822533/keeping-track-of-election-fraud/

    • #35
  6. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    Maybe we should focus on movies?

    No, let’s spend more time reading the thoughts of people who are still litigating the last election by commenting on podcasts they don’t listen to hosted by people they don’t like. It’s a very good use of everyone’s time.

    Blue you feed the fire as well.

    • #36
  7. OwnedByDogs Lincoln
    OwnedByDogs
    @JuliaBlaschke

    kedavis (View Comment):

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    WilliamDean (View Comment):
    I say it was. Them and people like them. How so? Because these guys are core pundits for the GOP establishment and they are thought-leaders. They have the eyes and ears of influential Republicans who can throw their lot behind Trump, or decide to split the party loyalties and sabotage initiatives and smear candidates. These men encouraged this kind of behavior. They didn’t beat-up the kid behind the gym themselves, they just went along with the narrative that he deserved to be beaten up.

    It was Trump’s fault.

    Hundreds of thousands of known-improper/illegal/fraudulent votes, in multiple states, say otherwise.

    See now, even if that is the case (and I don’t think it was), it is still Trump’s fault. Because he went about challenging it with wacko lawyers and making stupid comments that made so many people just want him gone. They still do. 

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  8. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    WilliamDean (View Comment):
    I say it was. Them and people like them. How so? Because these guys are core pundits for the GOP establishment and they are thought-leaders. They have the eyes and ears of influential Republicans who can throw their lot behind Trump, or decide to split the party loyalties and sabotage initiatives and smear candidates. These men encouraged this kind of behavior. They didn’t beat-up the kid behind the gym themselves, they just went along with the narrative that he deserved to be beaten up.

    It was Trump’s fault.

    Hundreds of thousands of known-improper/illegal/fraudulent votes, in multiple states, say otherwise.

    See now, even if that is the case (and I don’t think it was), it is still Trump’s fault. Because he went about challenging it with wacko lawyers and making stupid comments that made so many people just want him gone. They still do.

    I’m pretty sure Trump didn’t cause/force the Democrats to cheat.

    • #38
  9. OwnedByDogs Lincoln
    OwnedByDogs
    @JuliaBlaschke

    kedavis (View Comment):
    This covers a lot of it, but it’s not exhaustive:

    It is SO exhaustive that I won’t even click on the link. We moved on from crazy Trumpy governors in VA. I want to do that everywhere. No more old Trump or old Biden. They are both not up to the job.

    • #39
  10. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    This covers a lot of it, but it’s not exhaustive:

    It is SO exhaustive that I won’t even click on the link. We moved on from crazy Trumpy governors in VA. I want to do that everywhere. No more old Trump or old Biden. They are both not up to the job.

    That’s true, gas prices were so much higher with Trump…  oh wait, no they weren’t.  Well, Russia invaded so many places with Trump… oh wait, no they didn’t…  Well, at least for sure Iran got atomic bombs with Trump… no, that didn’t happen either…

    • #40
  11. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    This covers a lot of it, but it’s not exhaustive:

    It is SO exhaustive that I won’t even click on the link. We moved on from crazy Trumpy governors in VA. I want to do that everywhere. No more old Trump or old Biden. They are both not up to the job.

    I liked Trump’s governance alot though. America got richer and the judiciary got slightly less corrupt.

    • #41
  12. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    This covers a lot of it, but it’s not exhaustive:

    It is SO exhaustive that I won’t even click on the link. We moved on from crazy Trumpy governors in VA. I want to do that everywhere. No more old Trump or old Biden. They are both not up to the job.

    I liked Trump’s governance alot though. America got richer and the judiciary got slightly less corrupt.

    At least until Election Day.

    • #42
  13. shermanranch Lincoln
    shermanranch
    @shermanranch

    Biggest problem with “The Godfather”: Tom Hagen’s character having been adopted by a poor immigrant who could barely feed/house his family–Corleone’s going to pick up some little Anglo kid as another mouth to feed (maybe the book explains it)? I’m not buying it. It bugs me whenever I watch (though I’m not a huge fan to begin with)…. I AM more of a fan of Robert Loggia (and remember him in “T.H.E. Cat,” though not the greatest show) and Lou Antonio as an actor (always terrific, but my favorite is the TV movie “Sole Survivor”) and even a director. … This was a great podcast episode. I like Jonah well enough, but, frankly, he doesn’t know much about TV and movies beyond superhero/”Game of Thrones” stuff, so I don’t mind John and Rob dominating such conversations (I’ve sat through more than my share of science fantasy crap on GLoP). 

    • #43
  14. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    shermanranch (View Comment):
    I like Jonah well enough, but, frankly, he doesn’t know much about TV and movies beyond superhero/”Game of Thrones” stuff, so I don’t mind John and Rob dominating such conversations (I’ve sat through more than my share of science fantasy crap on GLoP). 

    Good enough I suppose, but as I’ve pointed out before, John is wrong about things – including TV and movies – often enough that it’s wise to check everything he says.  For just one small example this time, he was wrong about “Don’t mention the war!” being a Monty Python bit.

    • #44
  15. OwnedByDogs Lincoln
    OwnedByDogs
    @JuliaBlaschke

    kedavis (View Comment):
    That’s true, gas prices were so much higher with Trump…  oh wait, no they weren’t.  Well, Russia invaded so many places with Trump… oh wait, no they didn’t…  Well, at least for sure Iran got atomic bombs with Trump… no, that didn’t happen either…

    And then he ruined it all by losing to Joe Biden and not knowing enough about how to mount a successful challenge. And he isn’t getting any younger or wiser. He runs about the country whining about the election instead of telling people what he would have done differently.

    • #45
  16. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    That’s true, gas prices were so much higher with Trump… oh wait, no they weren’t. Well, Russia invaded so many places with Trump… oh wait, no they didn’t… Well, at least for sure Iran got atomic bombs with Trump… no, that didn’t happen either…

    And then he ruined it all by losing to Joe Biden and not knowing enough about how to mount a successful challenge. And he isn’t getting any younger or wiser. He runs about the country whining about the election instead of telling people what he would have done differently.

    If you can determine how he could have won outside the margin of fraud, I’m sure a lot of people would like to know. It may be crucial information for 2024. Arguably Trump managed to win in 2016 because the left thought Hillary had it in the bag, and they didn’t bother revving up the fraud machine because they didn’t think they needed to.  In 2020 the fraud machine – “The most inclusive voter fraud organization in history” as Biden said – was oiled up and supercharged, with the help of illegal/unconstitutional voting procedure changes “because Covid” etc.

    • #46
  17. Blue Yeti Admin
    Blue Yeti
    @BlueYeti

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    Maybe we should focus on movies?

    No, let’s spend more time reading the thoughts of people who are still litigating the last election by commenting on podcasts they don’t listen to hosted by people they don’t like. It’s a very good use of everyone’s time.

    Blue you feed the fire as well.

    Listen or don’t listen to podcasts, that’s up to each individual. But don’t not listen to one and then spam the comments with individual beefs on issues that have nothing to do with the podcast posted here. 

    As a matter of policy we don’t delete comments. But that doesn’t mean we can’t call them out as whiney, finger pointing, off topic comments that are only posted to make the commenter feel good about themselves. 

    Want to complain about the election two and a half years after the fact (again), or how victimized the former President is, or pontificate about where Jonah practices punditry? Please do! There are a myriad of ways to express yourself on this site: Write a post. Create a private or public group. Produce your own podcast.

    Don’t like the hosts of this show? Cool. Don’t listen to it.  Podcast listening is optional on Ricochet. Always has been, always will be.  But stop carpet bombing the podcast posts (and it’s not just GLoP) with this repetitive, one note, and by this point — extremely boring comments. Is that too much to ask?

     

    Apparently, it is. 

     

    • #47
  18. DrewInWisconsin, Oat! Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oat!
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Franco (View Comment):
    Ricochet is essentially a political site, correct? People come here for like-minded conversation. We have our disagreements on some policies, but align generally. That’s the idea right? However, people have red lines. For example you don’t host hard-core Democrats shilling for Pelosi or Biden.

    Does Ricochet no longer host Bill Kristol’s podcast, then?

    • #48
  19. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    DrewInWisconsin, Oat! (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):
    Ricochet is essentially a political site, correct? People come here for like-minded conversation. We have our disagreements on some policies, but align generally. That’s the idea right? However, people have red lines. For example you don’t host hard-core Democrats shilling for Pelosi or Biden.

    Does Ricochet no longer host Bill Kristol’s podcast, then?

    I don’t see it in the podcast list any more, so here’s hoping!

    • #49
  20. Iver Mectin Prussian Oligarch Inactive
    Iver Mectin Prussian Oligarch
    @Pseudodionysius

    If I type a comment in Russian, will it be deleted?

    • #50
  21. OwnedByDogs Lincoln
    OwnedByDogs
    @JuliaBlaschke

    kedavis (View Comment):
    If you can determine how he could have won outside the margin of fraud, I’m sure a lot of people would like to know. It may be crucial information for 2024. Arguably Trump managed to win in 2016 because the left thought Hillary had it in the bag, and they didn’t bother revving up the fraud machine because they didn’t think they needed to.  In 2020 the fraud machine – “The most inclusive voter fraud organization in history” as Biden said – was oiled up and supercharged, with the help of illegal/unconstitutional voting procedure changes “because Covid” etc.

    It doesn’t matter. Biden won and Trump lost. That isn’t going to change. There is no point.

    • #51
  22. Blue Yeti Admin
    Blue Yeti
    @BlueYeti

    DrewInWisconsin, Oat! (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):
    Ricochet is essentially a political site, correct? People come here for like-minded conversation. We have our disagreements on some policies, but align generally. That’s the idea right? However, people have red lines. For example you don’t host hard-core Democrats shilling for Pelosi or Biden.

    Does Ricochet no longer host Bill Kristol’s podcast, then?

    We never hosted it, we were paid to distribute it. That contract expired at the end of 2021 and was not renewed. 

    • #52
  23. DrewInWisconsin, Oat! Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oat!
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oat! (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):
    Ricochet is essentially a political site, correct? People come here for like-minded conversation. We have our disagreements on some policies, but align generally. That’s the idea right? However, people have red lines. For example you don’t host hard-core Democrats shilling for Pelosi or Biden.

    Does Ricochet no longer host Bill Kristol’s podcast, then?

    We never hosted it, we were paid to distribute it.

    Audience doesn’t know the difference. It was always a bad look. Glad you didn’t renew it. Or he didn’t renew it. Or whatever. Bill Kristol needs to get embedded in one of these wars he loves so much.

    • #53
  24. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    Maybe we should focus on movies?

    No, let’s spend more time reading the thoughts of people who are still litigating the last election by commenting on podcasts they don’t listen to hosted by people they don’t like. It’s a very good use of everyone’s time.

    Blue you feed the fire as well.

    Listen or don’t listen to podcasts, that’s up to each individual. But don’t not listen to one and then spam the comments with individual beefs on issues that have nothing to do with the podcast posted here.

    As a matter of policy we don’t delete comments. But that doesn’t mean we can’t call them out as whiney, finger pointing, off topic comments that are only posted to make the commenter feel good about themselves.

    Want to complain about the election two and a half years after the fact (again), or how victimized the former President is, or pontificate about where Jonah practices punditry? Please do! There are a myriad of ways to express yourself on this site: Write a post. Create a private or public group. Produce your own podcast.

    Don’t like the hosts of this show? Cool. Don’t listen to it. Podcast listening is optional on Ricochet. Always has been, always will be. But stop carpet bombing the podcast posts (and it’s not just GLoP) with this repetitive, one note, and by this point — extremely boring comments. Is that too much to ask?

    Apparently, it is.

    All your points are valid but sometimes I wish you express yourself in a nicer way. Though I wish other people were nicer too.

    • #54
  25. Jim Kearney Member
    Jim Kearney
    @JimKearney

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Jim Kearney (View Comment):

    I’ve always thought people (including me) would be more likely to listen to podcasts if they came with an index, like a book.

    So many minutes in: Godfather talk ; five minutes later, what a hoot Broadcast News was, especially the Albert Brooks schvitz scene; halfway in, cable’s early years in Pennsylvania featuring a brilliant TV set salesman, Irving Kahn’s pre-incarceration years, and the premiere of HBO; two minutes before the final buzzer: (tagged with a trigger warning to Trump supporters) Jonah’s historic first veiled reference acknowledging 2020 election irregularities, then a hasty segue into talk of irregularity in general and how millennial Senna-holics disparagingly call Boomers “Generation Ex-Lax.”

    I don’t know what podcast you were listening to, but what you are describing isn’t this show.

    The point I was making — too gently for some, I see — was that I don’t listen to podcasts because (with the exception of Rob’s occasional, brilliant, and brief Martini Shot) they’re too damned long! I once worked in radio, a medium disciplined by the constraints of a more demanding measured audience, so the casual tempo of podcasts sends me looking for the fast forward which is useless without a list of timecodes.

    So without having to endure the discursive rambling typical of the genre (this time on subjects I have well covered) in went a theoretical rundown of what an actually interesting and informed sampling through the stated agenda might look like.

    If you’re talking about the films of William Hurt, for instance, you certainly would want to mention Broadcast News, the Jim Brooks classic. A great scene comes when Hurt’s composed, experienced news anchor teaches a skeptical Brooks how to sit on the tail of his blazer to improve is posture on-air. Then it all falls apart with the perfect case of flop sweat on live TV, while Hurt is off with Holly Hunter at the WHCD. (Talk about The Big Chill would also merit a time code flag to this long-ago former Democrat. It’s a movie made back when ex-hippies were coming to terms with their mistakes, before reverting to earnest blind idealism.)

    As for Jonah, he was amusing back in the day c0-headlining cruise show comedy night with Rob or Lileks and the great Mary Steyn. Since Jonah started looking down on President Trump, from some self-imagined perch on high, poof went the funny. I await the day when he comes to the realization that Trump’s connection with Republican voters is more important than Jonah’s own standing in the small and insignficant inside-the-beltway-and-on-their-way-out community that is the anti-Trumpers.

    • #55
  26. Bishop Wash Member
    Bishop Wash
    @BishopWash

    Maybe we can come together and help Jonah go far in Smug’s tournament.

    • #56
  27. shermanranch Lincoln
    shermanranch
    @shermanranch

    kedavis (View Comment):

    shermanranch (View Comment):
    I like Jonah well enough, but, frankly, he doesn’t know much about TV and movies beyond superhero/”Game of Thrones” stuff, so I don’t mind John and Rob dominating such conversations (I’ve sat through more than my share of science fantasy crap on GLoP).

    Good enough I suppose, but as I’ve pointed out before, John is wrong about things – including TV and movies – often enough that it’s wise to check everything he says. For just one small example this time, he was wrong about “Don’t mention the war!” being a Monty Python bit.

    Yeah, John is wrong a lot, but he’s old (not as old as I, though), so he makes references movies and TV that I know (I was pretty surprised he didn’t remember “T.H.E. Cat,” though). But, heck, he’s usually speaking off the cuff, so he’s going to get a lot wrong, naturally.

    • #57
  28. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    shermanranch (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    shermanranch (View Comment):
    I like Jonah well enough, but, frankly, he doesn’t know much about TV and movies beyond superhero/”Game of Thrones” stuff, so I don’t mind John and Rob dominating such conversations (I’ve sat through more than my share of science fantasy crap on GLoP).

    Good enough I suppose, but as I’ve pointed out before, John is wrong about things – including TV and movies – often enough that it’s wise to check everything he says. For just one small example this time, he was wrong about “Don’t mention the war!” being a Monty Python bit.

    Yeah, John is wrong a lot, but he’s old (not as old as I, though), so he makes references movies and TV that I know (I was pretty surprised he didn’t remember “T.H.E. Cat,” though). But, heck, he’s usually speaking off the cuff, so he’s going to get a lot wrong, naturally.

    He should say things like “I think it was maybe X, but you should look it up to make sure” a lot more.  Rather than “it was X” as though that’s received wisdom.

    • #58
  29. Instugator Thatcher
    Instugator
    @Instugator

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):
    Maybe we can come together and help Jonah go far in Smug’s tournament.

    He is doing fine on his own, but I did help.

    • #59
  30. shermanranch Lincoln
    shermanranch
    @shermanranch

    kedavis (View Comment):

    shermanranch (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    shermanranch (View Comment):
    I like Jonah well enough, but, frankly, he doesn’t know much about TV and movies beyond superhero/”Game of Thrones” stuff, so I don’t mind John and Rob dominating such conversations (I’ve sat through more than my share of science fantasy crap on GLoP).

    Good enough I suppose, but as I’ve pointed out before, John is wrong about things – including TV and movies – often enough that it’s wise to check everything he says. For just one small example this time, he was wrong about “Don’t mention the war!” being a Monty Python bit.

    Yeah, John is wrong a lot, but he’s old (not as old as I, though), so he makes references movies and TV that I know (I was pretty surprised he didn’t remember “T.H.E. Cat,” though). But, heck, he’s usually speaking off the cuff, so he’s going to get a lot wrong, naturally.

    He should say things like “I think it was maybe X, but you should look it up to make sure” a lot more. Rather than “it was X” as though that’s received wisdom.

    Agreed.

    • #60
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