Ministry of Culture

This week, über pundits Jonah Goldberg, Rob Long, and John Podhoretz take on awards season, the Selma controversy, a GLoP overview of the situation in France and western Europe, and finally, a healthy dose of skepticism over Mitt’s flirtation with running in 2016. Vive le GloP!

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  1. Casey Inactive

    Je Suis GLoP

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    • January 14, 2015, at 2:26 PM PST
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  2. EJHill Podcaster
    EJHillJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Casey – I’ve heard that about you… But I refused to believe it!

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    • January 14, 2015, at 2:42 PM PST
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  3. Nick Stuart Inactive

    Obama doesn’t say things because he believes they’re true.

    Obama believes things are true because he says them.

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    • January 14, 2015, at 3:19 PM PST
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  4. Benjamin Glaser Inactive

    EJ Hill you have outdone yourself on this one. Bravo.

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    • January 14, 2015, at 4:16 PM PST
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  5. 1967mustangman Inactive

    Humidor is Jonah Goldberg’s favorite month.

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    • January 14, 2015, at 5:38 PM PST
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  6. Benjamin Glaser Inactive

    Plastic Bertrand – Ca Plane Pour Moi 
    Nice.

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    • January 14, 2015, at 5:51 PM PST
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  7. HankRhody Freelance Philosopher Contributor

    1967mustangman:Humidor is Jonah Goldberg’s favorite month.

    Isn’t it everyone’s?

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    • January 14, 2015, at 9:48 PM PST
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  8. Dr. Strangelove Thatcher
    Dr. StrangeloveJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Ah, the long GLOP culture podcast drought has broken! Welcome back guys!

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    • January 15, 2015, at 12:14 AM PST
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  9. Ron Kean Member

    1. Rob…don’t stop dropping names and telling stories about celebs.

    2. It’s b’newr.

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    • January 15, 2015, at 12:51 AM PST
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  10. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge

    Somehow Rob Long has been made creepy. I’ll decline that rose, thanks.

    No easy feat to creepify Rob. I salute the courage, etc., required in this effort.

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    • January 15, 2015, at 4:09 AM PST
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  11. ctlaw Coolidge

    iTunes is not updating this podcast. The last episode is 12/12/14 and my iPhone oddly says “Last updated on Jan 8 2015…” even though all other podcasts show an update time within the last 10 minutes.

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    • January 15, 2015, at 4:21 AM PST
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  12. Blue Yeti Admin
    Blue Yeti

    ctlaw:iTunes is not updating this podcast. The last episode is 12/12/14 and my iPhone oddly says “Last updated on Jan 8 2015…” even though all other podcasts show an update time within the last 10 minutes.

    Make sure you are subscribed to this feed:

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/glop-culture-goldberg-long/id563316406?mt=2

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    • January 15, 2015, at 7:39 AM PST
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  13. Podkayne of Israel Member

    Another good show. But I would rather have heard more about France and Romney than about Awards Season.

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    • January 15, 2015, at 7:56 AM PST
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  14. ctlaw Coolidge

    Blue Yeti:

    ctlaw:iTunes is not updating this podcast. The last episode is 12/12/14 and my iPhone oddly says “Last updated on Jan 8 2015…” even though all other podcasts show an update time within the last 10 minutes.

    Make sure you are subscribed to this feed:

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/glop-culture-goldberg-long/id563316406?mt=2

    That did it.

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    • January 15, 2015, at 8:12 AM PST
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  15. EJHill Podcaster
    EJHillJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Chris Campion: Somehow Rob Long has been made creepy.

    RobCreepyRob

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    • January 15, 2015, at 8:35 AM PST
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  16. Hartmann von Aue Member

    Wow Rob, very kind thing you did for Ms. Bates back then. And very good podcast everyone. When is the last time anyone around here saw a pay phone in the states, by the way? In Germany there are still some phonecard booths, but not nearly as many as in the 90s, of course.

    RE: Europe and the Jews. So, it will I hope encourage you to hear that there was an outpouring of support for European Jews among German conservative Catholics and Evangelicals (used here in the American sense to mean everyone who is non-Catholic and Christian) in the wake of the Paris attacks. Germany’s approximate equivalent of Christianity Today, Idea, even challenged Fr. Dr. Merkel’s assertion that “Islam gehoert zu Deutschland” , countering “Juden und Judentum gehoeren zu Deutschland”. The Zentralrat der Juden in Deutschland and Freundschaft Deutschland-Israel also expressed their support for European Jews in the face of Islamic violence and publicly, unequivocally called on politicians to stop pretending that “These attacks have nothing to do with Islam”.

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    • January 15, 2015, at 9:46 AM PST
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  17. Aaron Miller Member
    Aaron MillerJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Jonah: “As a practical matter, we cannot be in the position of making the argument that we are at war with 1.6 billion [Muslim] people, most of whom aren’t blowing people up and murdering.”

    Sure we can. Islam is an ideology, a worldview. So is modern liberalism. I guarantee that over a billion people in the world identify themselves as some variation of liberal. But we don’t fail to acknowledge that the ideology itself is the problem, even as we socialize and work alongside our liberal neighbors.

    Why should Islam be treated differently than liberalism? Because the philosophy involves a god concept and is thus “religion”? Do liberals take their beliefs any less seriously than Muslims take the Koran? Are liberals less defensive of Obama or FDR than Muslims are of Mohammed? Are their beliefs less definitive of their actions?

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    • January 15, 2015, at 10:29 AM PST
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  18. Casey Inactive

    Aaron Miller:

    Jonah: “As a practical matter, we cannot be in the position of making the argument that we are at war with 1.6 billion [Muslim] people, most of whom aren’t blowing people up and murdering.”

    Sure we can. Islam is an ideology, a worldview. So is modern liberalism. I guarantee that over a billion people in the world identify themselves as some variation of liberal. But we don’t fail to acknowledge that the ideology itself is the problem, even as we socialize and work alongside our liberal neighbors.

    Why should Islam be treated differently than liberalism? Because the philosophy involves a god concept and is thus “religion”? Do liberals take their beliefs any less seriously than Muslims take the Koran? Are liberals less defensive of Obama or FDR than Muslims are of Mohammed? Are their beliefs less definitive of their actions?

    I cannot see where you are coming from here at all.

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    • January 15, 2015, at 11:57 AM PST
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  19. Aaron Miller Member
    Aaron MillerJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Casey: I cannot see where you are coming from here at all.

    How do we combat liberal ideologies? Do we limit ourselves to arguing against specific policy proposals, like the national income tax or minimum wage hikes? Or do we confront the fundamental ideas which give birth to those policies?

    All I’m saying is that we should feel free to confront Islam itself, rather than confront only policies/practices like sharia or female genital mutilation.

    There are undoubtedly many good-hearted Muslims in the world. Most mainly want to be left alone to focus on their own families and friends. The same can be said of liberals. Most people generally focus less on verifying inherited belief systems than on simply living life by what they know.

    If you want to change how people behave, you have to challenge what they believe. Islam is no different. Some interpretations might be relatively benign, but Islamic history is anything but.

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    • January 15, 2015, at 12:29 PM PST
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  20. Casey Inactive

    Aaron Miller: Islam is no different.

    Islam is very different.

    Here’s where you are making your mistake: Islam is not like liberalism. Or Christianity or Buddhism.

    Muslim is like German. Being Muslim is being a part of the greater Islamic community.

    Saying that we need to confront Islam to defeat the terrorists is like saying to defeat the Nazis we need to confront German-ness.

    There was absolutely a German-ness in Nazi-ism and Islam is intertwined with terrorism. But it is critically important to understand where one begins and one ends if we are to achieve victory.

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    • January 15, 2015, at 12:45 PM PST
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  21. Aaron Miller Member
    Aaron MillerJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Islam began with violence. It began with conquest and is oriented toward conquest. The earliest Muslims enforced dhimmitude on infidels.

    The method of blowing themselves up is new. The goal of terrifying non-Muslims and dominating us is not.

    Perhaps there’s some truth to what you say, but I’ll have to think about it. Without a doubt, any religion eventually morphs into a vague cultural/nationalistic association for many people who claim it by inheritance.

    In any case, the merits of Islam — whether it is fundamentally an ideology or a culture — are worth consideration if for no other reason than that is is spreading across the world and becoming a cultural force even in the West.

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    • January 15, 2015, at 1:52 PM PST
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  22. Casey Inactive

    There were also long periods where Muslim regimes and people were quite tolerant.

    The thing is, it isn’t that what you are saying is wrong. It’s just incomplete.

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    • January 15, 2015, at 2:06 PM PST
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  23. Dex Quire Inactive

    I really enjoyed that…

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    • January 15, 2015, at 9:59 PM PST
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  24. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge

    EJHill:

    Chris Campion: Somehow Rob Long has been made creepy.

    RobCreepyRob

    Epic. I now no longer regret not driving down to southern New Hampshire a few years ago when Ricochet was freshly minted, and getting facepaint smeared on the lapel of my jacket.

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    • January 16, 2015, at 4:07 AM PST
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  25. Mikescapes Member

    The one percent solution adopted by the GLOP guys seems to be the conservative consensus view. Why? Because that’s the finding of a Pew Poll. Only 1% of muslims are militant. So if only 1% of a billion and a half are Jihadists it’s still a very large number. True, but reliance on this poll is very shaky thinking. Who commissioned the survey? Must have been those sneaky Koch Bros. You might as well agree with the liberals who tout “religion of peace, a huge percent of muslims are opposed to violence and terrorists aren’t really muslims.”

    How to break down the numbers to arrive at something numerically sound? Impossible I’m sure, but let’s not go along with the numbers crunchers who play down support of terror. It’s a form of propoganda to make the average muslim look innocent. He’s not so innocent. Any Muslim is deeply offended by the Hedbo cartoons of course. Do they lose any sleep over the attack? The answer is obvious. So, the percentages are bound to be far higher. First there are the combat troops, the killers. Then the support staff. Far many more than the actual jihadists. You know the drill. Somebody makes the suicide belt, tailor’s it, supplies the weapons, finances the plot, State sponsers, crowds in the street honoring terrorists and the list goes on and on. So, according to my math, we’re up to 12 1/2% now.

    Small example: How many Palestinians wish death to the Jews? Between one and ninety six percent. Factor that one into the equation. Hey, I haven’t mentioned legal jihad. You know, caving to Muslim student damands at the Ivy League. You want to avoid any nasty protests that get out of hand. Or, disruption of scheduled speakers with whom they disagree. It’s not Isis, but violence is threatend and occasionally used. I’ll fold ’em at 23%.
    Look, all I’m saying is that we shouldn’t be suckers and make excuses for people who hate our guts.

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    • January 16, 2015, at 9:53 AM PST
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  26. La Tapada Member

    I would like to know what the music was at the end of the podcast. I liked its liveliness.

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    • January 16, 2015, at 2:54 PM PST
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  27. La Tapada Member

    La Tapada: music at the end of the podcast.

    Ah, sorry. Just now saw B. Glaser’s comment (#6).

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    • January 16, 2015, at 2:58 PM PST
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  28. Nic Gibson Inactive

    didn’t Linus quote from the Gospel of Luke in Charlie Brown’s Christmas?

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    • January 17, 2015, at 8:44 PM PST
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  29. Grendel Member
    GrendelJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Ça plane pour moi.
    Hou Hou Hou hou. More makeup than Joey Ramone and more upbeat than “I wanna be sedated”.

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    • January 18, 2015, at 6:16 PM PST
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  30. Benjamin Glaser Inactive

    I may never forgive Blue Yeti for re-introducing me to that song.

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    • January 18, 2015, at 8:24 PM PST
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