It Could Work

Rob Long is fresh off the plane from Kenya and naturally has a lot to say about to say about the experience, and the guys pull out just about every pop culture reference they can about the place over the course of the show. But that’s not all: they also opine on WandaVision, the Marvel series currently running on Disney+, whether the streamers rebooting everything ever made is a good idea (a comparison made to the now deceased Quibi is met with a tad of resistance), we do a deep dive into the sad sagas of Don McNeil,  the soon to be former reporter at  of the NYT, and the currently suspended Mike Pesca of Slateand the through the looking glass situation at Smith College. Also, Jonah survives an unfortunately timed trip to Texas, and John is selling schwag.

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  1. Tedley Member
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    @Tedley

    Haven’t listened to the podcast yet, but one thing has me scratching my balding head.  I find it weird that the podcast shows up in iTunes in “The Ricochet Audio Network Superfeed” podcast feed, but not in the “GLoP Culture” podcast feed.  (My Mac is old (High Sierra), which is why I still use iTunes to listen to podcasts.)

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  2. Bishop Wash Member
    Bishop Wash
    @BishopWash

    Ricochet Audio Network: Rob Long is fresh off the plane from Kenya and naturally has a lot to say about to say about the experience

    Visiting Obama’s birthplace?

    Remember this early web favorite?

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  3. Blue Yeti Admin
    Blue Yeti
    @BlueYeti

    Tedley (View Comment):

    Haven’t listened to the podcast yet, but one thing has me scratching my balding head. I find it weird that the podcast shows up in iTunes in “The Ricochet Audio Network Superfeed” podcast feed, but not in the “GLoP Culture” podcast feed. (My Mac is old (High Sierra), which is why I still use iTunes to listen to podcasts.)

    Should be there now. Sometimes it take a bit of time for it to show up in all of the feeds we put it in. 

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  4. Blue Yeti Admin
    Blue Yeti
    @BlueYeti

    Obligatory screen shots from this episode:

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  5. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    Around 22:00, John Podhoretz legitimately did a Lilleksian segue. Respect.

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  6. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    Was Mr. Belvedere a child molester? I don’t know.

    (Are Getty images OK for Ricochet posts?)

     

    On an important note about the cancel culture. The left will become so corrupt and self-destructive, that they will lose the respect of the middle class and below.

    Also, Anna Karenina is a great novel.

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  7. HankRhody Freelance Philosopher Contributor
    HankRhody Freelance Philosopher
    @HankRhody

    Take this as a mild criticism, but it’s a little bit insulting to use the phrase “marvel superhero fanservice” when y’all are gushing about Wandavision, seeing as the other half of the show could be described as dated sitcom fanservice. 

    I did enjoy this show quite a bit. If any of you other clever people out there have any more success answering “What do you call a baby RINO?” I’d appreciate it.

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  8. Mister Dog Coolidge
    Mister Dog
    @MisterDog

    In 1985 my ship had a port call in Mombasa, Kenya and I was able to do a one day trip to Tsavo National Park. What an amazing experience. So much wildlife.

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  9. kedavis Member
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Please keep Jonah out of Texas.  Haven’t they suffered enough?

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  10. Tedley Member
    Tedley
    @Tedley

    My port visit to Mombasa was a couple of years after @misterdog.  I did an overnight tour, forget where we went, probably the same place.  Whatever, it was great touring the grasslands in an open-top van, hoping that all of the hunter-killer animals had had their fill of water buffalo.  Once our van found a group of other vans all arranged in a semi-circle a fair distance from a mother cheeta with a couple of cubs.  No one went close, either out of respect or fear, but it was enjoyable seeing such animals in the wild. 

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  11. Miffed White Male Member
    Miffed White Male
    @MiffedWhiteMale

    Tedley (View Comment):

    My port visit to Mombasa was a couple of years after @ misterdog. I did an overnight tour, forget where we went, probably the same place. Whatever, it was great touring the grasslands in an open-top van, hoping that all of the hunter-killer animals had had their fill of water buffalo. Once our van found a group of other vans all arranged in a semi-circle a fair distance from a mother cheeta with a couple of cubs. No one went close, either out of respect or fear, but it was enjoyable seeing such animals in the wild.

    My brother tells a story about tent camping near Ongorogoro [sp?] crater.

    The first night, he and his friends were awake all night, because they could hear lions roaring off in the bush not far away.  They told the locals about it the next day, who told them not to worry about it.  When you could hear the lions, everything was fine.  It’s when they were quiet that you had to worry.

    That night, they were awake all night again, because they didn’t hear any lions.

     

     

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  12. kedavis Member
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Did John say that CBS All Access has been a success?  Their current changes etc don’t seem to support that assertion.

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  13. kedavis Member
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Even better than Rob:

     

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  14. The Unreasonable Man Thatcher
    The Unreasonable Man
    @TheUnreasonableMan

    I really think GLOP was on to something with the idea of “Inspector Magritte”.  The Apple faced man did it without the pipe.

    René Magritte | Biography | Art collection online for sale on Kooness

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  15. filmklassik Member
    filmklassik
    @filmklassik

    According to Rob Long, cancel culture is primarily the result of two things:  Laziness and economics.

    “When you’re angry at a book,” Rob says, “you don’t have to actually read it.  So the lazy woke student will say ‘I will NOT read Anna Karenina because it offends me!’”

    As for economics, Rob’s theory is that, “Canceling your high-status coworkers means more good jobs to go around.  It’s a way of thinning the herd.”

    So it’s all about laziness and economics, folks.  This is Rob’s facile explanation for the existence of terminal wokeness, and cancel culture.

    Except he’s wrong.

    Wokeness (aka “anti-racism”) is a sincerely held belief.   Indeed it functions like a new, evangelical religion.  Anyone with children of high school or college age — indeed, anyone who knows anyone under the age of 30 — can attest to the truth of this.  Worse still, it is metastasizing.  

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  16. Profile Photo Admin
    @BlueYeti

    Damn, I wish I would have remembered that.

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Even better than Rob:

     

     

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  17. Bishop Wash Member
    Bishop Wash
    @BishopWash

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    According to Rob Long, cancel culture is primarily the result of two things: Laziness and economics.

    “When you’re angry at a book,” Rob says, “you don’t have to actually read it. So the lazy woke student will say ‘I will NOT read Anna Karenina because it offends me!’”

    As for economics, Rob’s theory is that, “Canceling your high-status coworkers means more good jobs to go around. It’s a way of thinning the herd.”

    So it’s all about laziness and economics, folks. This is Rob’s facile explanation for the existence of terminal wokeness, and cancel culture.

    Except he’s wrong.

    Wokeness (aka “anti-racism”) is a sincerely held belief. Indeed it functions like a new, evangelical religion. Anyone with children of high school or college age — indeed, anyone who knows anyone under the age of 30 — can attest to the truth of this. Worse still, it is metastasizing.

    The thought was, wait until those kids get into the real world and get slammed by reality. What happened was that they infected the human resources departments and have changed the real world into their college enclaves. Much like trading with China was supposed to export our liberty to them and instead American businesses are agreeing to their authoritarianism. 

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  18. RPD Member
    RPD
    @RPD

    Mister Dog (View Comment):

    In 1985 my ship had a port call in Mombasa, Kenya and I was able to do a one day trip to Tsavo National Park. What an amazing experience. So much wildlife.

    My ship stopped there in 1994. We had the same tour and it was a really memorable experience. We even encountered a small group of elephants we had to skirt around. We had come around after a stop in Capetown South Africa. It was still during the time of apartheid, so I was fairly convinced our ship had been selected since we had an African-American CO.

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  19. filmklassik Member
    filmklassik
    @filmklassik

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    According to Rob Long, cancel culture is primarily the result of two things: Laziness and economics.

    “When you’re angry at a book,” Rob says, “you don’t have to actually read it. So the lazy woke student will say ‘I will NOT read Anna Karenina because it offends me!’”

    As for economics, Rob’s theory is that, “Canceling your high-status coworkers means more good jobs to go around. It’s a way of thinning the herd.”

    So it’s all about laziness and economics, folks. This is Rob’s facile explanation for the existence of terminal wokeness, and cancel culture.

    Except he’s wrong.

    Wokeness (aka “anti-racism”) is a sincerely held belief. Indeed it functions like a new, evangelical religion. Anyone with children of high school or college age — indeed, anyone who knows anyone under the age of 30 — can attest to the truth of this. Worse still, it is metastasizing.

    The thought was, wait until those kids get into the real world and get slammed by reality. What happened was that they infected the human resources departments and have changed the real world into their college enclaves.

    Exactly.  And you’re correct about the HR departments and higher education, but let’s not forget lower education (K-12), the news media, the federal government (in the form of “equity” and “diversity training”), many state and local governments, advertising, publishing, a surprising number of churches (!), and of course almost all scripted entertainment. 

    “Wokeness” is also strangling discourse.  

    In ways that are easy to see but difficult to define and quantify, this new religion is overtaking the culture like pod people from an old sci-fi film.  

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  20. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    According to Rob Long, cancel culture is primarily the result of two things: Laziness and economics.

    “When you’re angry at a book,” Rob says, “you don’t have to actually read it. So the lazy woke student will say ‘I will NOT read Anna Karenina because it offends me!’”

    As for economics, Rob’s theory is that, “Canceling your high-status coworkers means more good jobs to go around. It’s a way of thinning the herd.”

    So it’s all about laziness and economics, folks. This is Rob’s facile explanation for the existence of terminal wokeness, and cancel culture.

    Except he’s wrong.

    Wokeness (aka “anti-racism”) is a sincerely held belief. Indeed it functions like a new, evangelical religion. Anyone with children of high school or college age — indeed, anyone who knows anyone under the age of 30 — can attest to the truth of this. Worse still, it is metastasizing.

    The thought was, wait until those kids get into the real world and get slammed by reality. What happened was that they infected the human resources departments and have changed the real world into their college enclaves.

    Exactly. And you’re correct about the HR departments and higher education, but let’s not forget lower education (K-12), the news media, the federal government (in the form of “equity” and “diversity training”), many state and local governments, advertising, publishing, a surprising number of churches (!), and of course almost all scripted entertainment.

    “Wokeness” is also strangling discourse.

    In ways that are easy to see but difficult to define and quantify, this new religion is overtaking the culture like pod people from an old sci-fi film.

    “Let’s not cancel Rob Long or John Podhoretz or Jonah Goldberg yet.  Sowing confusion in conservative ranks, they are useful to the cause.”

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  21. filmklassik Member
    filmklassik
    @filmklassik

    Taras (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    According to Rob Long, cancel culture is primarily the result of two things: Laziness and economics.

    “When you’re angry at a book,” Rob says, “you don’t have to actually read it. So the lazy woke student will say ‘I will NOT read Anna Karenina because it offends me!’”

    As for economics, Rob’s theory is that, “Canceling your high-status coworkers means more good jobs to go around. It’s a way of thinning the herd.”

    So it’s all about laziness and economics, folks. This is Rob’s facile explanation for the existence of terminal wokeness, and cancel culture.

    Except he’s wrong.

    Wokeness (aka “anti-racism”) is a sincerely held belief. Indeed it functions like a new, evangelical religion. Anyone with children of high school or college age — indeed, anyone who knows anyone under the age of 30 — can attest to the truth of this. Worse still, it is metastasizing.

    The thought was, wait until those kids get into the real world and get slammed by reality. What happened was that they infected the human resources departments and have changed the real world into their college enclaves.

    Exactly. And you’re correct about the HR departments and higher education, but let’s not forget lower education (K-12), the news media, the federal government (in the form of “equity” and “diversity training”), many state and local governments, advertising, publishing, a surprising number of churches (!), and of course almost all scripted entertainment.

    “Wokeness” is also strangling discourse.

    In ways that are easy to see but difficult to define and quantify, this new religion is overtaking the culture like pod people from an old sci-fi film.

     

    “Let’s not cancel Rob Long or John Podhoretz or Jonah Goldberg yet. Sowing confusion in conservative ranks, they are useful to the cause.”

    What’s interesting is, Podhoretz, Goldberg, Long, and myself are on the same page politically.  I despise the cultural Left with a white hot passion … as I despise the New Right with a white hot passion.  So yes, I couldn’t vote top-of-ticket in the most recent election, nor in the one from 2016.  Politically I am homeless right now.  But I do know that the most urgent crisis facing this country is cultural (and it isn’t close).  “Wokeness” is strangling discourse, killing scripted entertainment, murdering education, and leading us toward a new (but oh-so “justified“) inverted Jim Crow.  And it’s happening right before our eyes.  

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  22. kedavis Member
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    @kedavis

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    According to Rob Long, cancel culture is primarily the result of two things: Laziness and economics.

    “When you’re angry at a book,” Rob says, “you don’t have to actually read it. So the lazy woke student will say ‘I will NOT read Anna Karenina because it offends me!’”

    As for economics, Rob’s theory is that, “Canceling your high-status coworkers means more good jobs to go around. It’s a way of thinning the herd.”

    So it’s all about laziness and economics, folks. This is Rob’s facile explanation for the existence of terminal wokeness, and cancel culture.

    Except he’s wrong.

    Wokeness (aka “anti-racism”) is a sincerely held belief. Indeed it functions like a new, evangelical religion. Anyone with children of high school or college age — indeed, anyone who knows anyone under the age of 30 — can attest to the truth of this. Worse still, it is metastasizing.

    The thought was, wait until those kids get into the real world and get slammed by reality. What happened was that they infected the human resources departments and have changed the real world into their college enclaves.

    Exactly. And you’re correct about the HR departments and higher education, but let’s not forget lower education (K-12), the news media, the federal government (in the form of “equity” and “diversity training”), many state and local governments, advertising, publishing, a surprising number of churches (!), and of course almost all scripted entertainment.

    “Wokeness” is also strangling discourse.

    In ways that are easy to see but difficult to define and quantify, this new religion is overtaking the culture like pod people from an old sci-fi film.

     

    “Let’s not cancel Rob Long or John Podhoretz or Jonah Goldberg yet. Sowing confusion in conservative ranks, they are useful to the cause.”

    What’s interesting is, Podhoretz, Goldberg, Long, and myself are on the same page politically. I despise the cultural Left with a white hot passion … as I despise the New Right with a white hot passion. So yes, I couldn’t vote top-of-ticket in the most recent election, nor in the one from 2016. Politically I am homeless right now. But I do know that the most urgent crisis facing this country is cultural (and it isn’t close). “Wokeness” is strangling discourse, killing scripted entertainment, murdering education, and leading us toward a new (but oh-so “justified“) inverted Jim Crow. And it’s happening right before our eyes.

    And yet you’re saying you “couldn’t” vote for the top-ticket candidate who was demonstrably against woke-ism, thus helping the woke-ism candidate to (arguably) win this time?

    That DOES sound just like Podhoretz, Goldberg, and Long.

    Gee thanks.

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  23. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    filmklassik (View Comment):
    What’s interesting is, Podhoretz, Goldberg, Long, and myself are on the same page politically. I despise the cultural Left with a white hot passion … as I despise the New Right with a white hot passion. So yes, I couldn’t vote top-of-ticket in the most recent election, nor in the one from 2016. Politically I am homeless right now. But I do know that the most urgent crisis facing this country is cultural (and it isn’t close). “Wokeness” is strangling discourse, killing scripted entertainment, murdering education, and leading us toward a new (but oh-so “justified“) inverted Jim Crow. And it’s happening right before our eyes.

    How is the New Right in anyway as worrisome as Wokism? The New Right is too economically populist and isolationist for my taste but it is still pro-capitalist and and pro-American. Wokism is a death cult. 

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  24. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):
    What’s interesting is, Podhoretz, Goldberg, Long, and myself are on the same page politically. I despise the cultural Left with a white hot passion … as I despise the New Right with a white hot passion. So yes, I couldn’t vote top-of-ticket in the most recent election, nor in the one from 2016. Politically I am homeless right now. But I do know that the most urgent crisis facing this country is cultural (and it isn’t close). “Wokeness” is strangling discourse, killing scripted entertainment, murdering education, and leading us toward a new (but oh-so “justified“) inverted Jim Crow. And it’s happening right before our eyes.

    How is the New Right in anyway as worrisome as Wokism? The New Right is too economically populist and isolationist for my taste but it is still pro-capitalist and and pro-American. Wokism is a death cult.

    The modern Republican Party is where traditional Democrats go when they finally learn what the modern Democratic Party actually stands for.  If you’re a patriot, there is no place else to go.

    Not surprisingly, all these former Democrats coming into the Republican Party are changing some of its policies.

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  25. Miffed White Male Member
    Miffed White Male
    @MiffedWhiteMale

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    What’s interesting is, Podhoretz, Goldberg, Long, and myself are on the same page politically. I despise the cultural Left with a white hot passion … as I despise the New Right with a white hot passion. So yes, I couldn’t vote top-of-ticket in the most recent election, nor in the one from 2016. Politically I am homeless right now. But I do know that the most urgent crisis facing this country is cultural (and it isn’t close). “Wokeness” is strangling discourse, killing scripted entertainment, murdering education, and leading us toward a new (but oh-so “justified“) inverted Jim Crow. And it’s happening right before our eyes.

    These two things don’t go together.

     

     

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  26. kedavis Member
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    What’s interesting is, Podhoretz, Goldberg, Long, and myself are on the same page politically. I despise the cultural Left with a white hot passion … as I despise the New Right with a white hot passion. So yes, I couldn’t vote top-of-ticket in the most recent election, nor in the one from 2016. Politically I am homeless right now. But I do know that the most urgent crisis facing this country is cultural (and it isn’t close). “Wokeness” is strangling discourse, killing scripted entertainment, murdering education, and leading us toward a new (but oh-so “justified“) inverted Jim Crow. And it’s happening right before our eyes.

    These two things don’t go together.

    It’s still baffling how people can see that their country is being destroyed, and their response is to do…  nothing helpful.

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