Helping Jonah Write a Column

It’s the last GLoP of the year — oh wait, it’s the last GLoP of the decade. Better make this one memorable. What can we do? I know, let’s help Jonah write a column. YES.

So that’s what we do: Rob and John suggest column topics and along the way, cover the which droids they’d like to be, the trouble with Clint Eastwood’s new movie Richard Jewell, why the Democratic party is eating itself, a bit of Rank Punditry®, Rob’s newest obsession: ASMR videos (no, we’ve never heard of it either), and various other rabbit holes and detours.

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  1. kedavis Coolidge
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    I don’t know if this is ASMR but it’s appropriate for these guys.

    I prefer TOS.  Specifically the bridge.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7P0q7rdBZc

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  2. SParker Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    That’s a pretty common mistake apparently mostly caused by people not taking into account that there was no year zero.

    Wider adoption of ISO 8601 would end these tragic misunderstandings every decade, century,  or millennium*.  Look for Lincoln Chaffee to pick up the banner and lead the charge.

    *I would add “myrietes” for 10,000 years (decamilennium, I suppose, if you can’t hack the switch from Latin to Greek), but Nostradamus supposedly says the whole shooting match meets the Sweet Meteor of Death sometime mid-3rd millennium.  Or if there was a 0th millennium, mid-2nd.  

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  3. SParker Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it, but I don’t remember The Black Hole ending the way Rob and JPod describe. My recollection is that Robert Forster and the other remaining “good guys” get through safely and emerge somewhere else in the galaxy; Maximilian Schell’s character experiences a kind of “afterlife” where the robot Maximilian appears as basically the ruler of the underworld, aka Satan. I just don’t remember an angel-like character, I guess I need to see it again.

    No, you don’t.  No one does.  And I like truly awful movies.  But if you can’t just read the Wikipedia plot summary, this will do:

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  4. Merrijane Inactive
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    SParker (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it, but I don’t remember The Black Hole ending the way Rob and JPod describe. My recollection is that Robert Forster and the other remaining “good guys” get through safely and emerge somewhere else in the galaxy; Maximilian Schell’s character experiences a kind of “afterlife” where the robot Maximilian appears as basically the ruler of the underworld, aka Satan. I just don’t remember an angel-like character, I guess I need to see it again.

    No, you don’t. No one does. And I like truly awful movies. But if you can’t just read the Wikipedia plot summary, this will do:

    Wow …

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  5. filmklassik Inactive
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    Oy. JPod insisting that the Left’s obsessive focus on diversity (Race! Gender! Sexual Identity!) is primarily a function of Twitter and other social media is madness. Absurd.

    Now, has social media amplified the de facto religion that is Identity Politics? Of course it has. But let’s not pretend it’s not a de facto religion or that an alarming percentage of Democrats (including a majority of our young people) aren’t True Believers. Give me a break.

    Even relatively apolitical Americans under the age of 25 take it for granted that structural racism is very much “a thing” in this country — still — and that our cops are using young black men for target practice … and that Islamophobia is rampant … and that women are being routinely silenced merely for speaking their minds, etc.

    They believe all this. In short, being “woke” is now the default setting for Americans under 25.

    And you’d think that the facts on the ground (for example, the New York Times’ 1619 Project) would be enough to persuade JPod and his ilk that this phenomenon is metastasizing.

    …But maybe having small children, as JPod does, makes you less alert to it, because when they imbibe “wokeism” like Mother’s Milk (as all children do now) it inevitably makes you … to one degree or another … and no matter how Conservative you happen to be … a bit more open to it. Or at least, less inclined to think of it as toxic.

    So I’d love to hear JPod hold forth about this — maybe with his colleagues on The Commentary Podcast. I’d love to hear them plumb the depths of his thinking about it, because as bright as JPod is (and he is extremely bright), on this particular issue, he seems fairly clueless.

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  6. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    Merrijane (View Comment):

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    kedavis (View Comment):

    It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it, but I don’t remember The Black Hole ending the way Rob and JPod describe. My recollection is that Robert Forster and the other remaining “good guys” get through safely and emerge somewhere else in the galaxy; Maximilian Schell’s character experiences a kind of “afterlife” where the robot Maximilian appears as basically the ruler of the underworld, aka Satan. I just don’t remember an angel-like character, I guess I need to see it again.

    No, you don’t. No one does. And I like truly awful movies. But if you can’t just read the Wikipedia plot summary, this will do:

    Wow …

    Wow, A bit harsh. I liked the Black Whole as well, (although I havent seen it decades) and I also dont remember it ending like that.

    Also in being a bit harsh – Why the dis on Clint Eastwood? Granted not every film is going to be great, but in recent years he’s made “Sully” – Fan freakin tastkic. “Trouble with the Curve” another excellent movie “American Sniper” … I would put up the movies Clint Eastwood has made in the last decade vs any director you want … who’s movies are better rated? Jar Jar Abrams? M Night  Shyamalan? Tarantino?

    And another thing, just because he’s old – dont mean he cant still kick your assets. Punks!

    Now I have the urge to watch Sully, and find “black hole” and its too late…

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  7. DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey Member
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    Not sure why that clip was given the title “The Salvation of Dr. Hans Reinhardt.” The guy ends up in hell. But maybe it was supposed to be ironic.

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  8. Scott R Member
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    EJ, love the art as always; however, if you listen closely there was an opportunity missed to place John on a gay-pride float. Next time.

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  9. kedavis Coolidge
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    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

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    It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it, but I don’t remember The Black Hole ending the way Rob and JPod describe. My recollection is that Robert Forster and the other remaining “good guys” get through safely and emerge somewhere else in the galaxy; Maximilian Schell’s character experiences a kind of “afterlife” where the robot Maximilian appears as basically the ruler of the underworld, aka Satan. I just don’t remember an angel-like character, I guess I need to see it again.

    No, you don’t. No one does. And I like truly awful movies. But if you can’t just read the Wikipedia plot summary, this will do:

    Wow …

    Wow, A bit harsh. I liked the Black Whole as well, (although I havent seen it decades) and I also dont remember it ending like that.

    Also in being a bit harsh – Why the dis on Clint Eastwood? Granted not every film is going to be great, but in recent years he’s made “Sully” – Fan freakin tastkic. “Trouble with the Curve” another excellent movie “American Sniper” … I would put up the movies Clint Eastwood has made in the last decade vs any director you want … who’s movies are better rated? Jar Jar Abrams? M Night Shyamalan? Tarantino?

    And another thing, just because he’s old – dont mean he cant still kick your assets. Punks!

    Now I have the urge to watch Sully, and find “black hole” and its too late…

    I enjoy some folks on radio shows and elsewhere who refer to him as Shamma-lamma-ding-dong.

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  10. LibertyDefender Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    The new decade starts on January 1, 2021. Are you cats taking next year off?

    If only.

    Now, now, Drew, they can be very entertaining.

    Not in this episode – perhaps they’re getting an early start.

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  11. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it, but I don’t remember The Black Hole ending the way Rob and JPod describe. My recollection is that Robert Forster and the other remaining “good guys” get through safely and emerge somewhere else in the galaxy; Maximilian Schell’s character experiences a kind of “afterlife” where the robot Maximilian appears as basically the ruler of the underworld, aka Satan. I just don’t remember an angel-like character, I guess I need to see it again.

    No, you don’t. No one does. And I like truly awful movies. But if you can’t just read the Wikipedia plot summary, this will do:

    Wow …

    Wow, A bit harsh. I liked the Black Whole as well, (although I havent seen it decades) and I also dont remember it ending like that.

    Also in being a bit harsh – Why the dis on Clint Eastwood? Granted not every film is going to be great, but in recent years he’s made “Sully” – Fan freakin tastkic. “Trouble with the Curve” another excellent movie “American Sniper” … I would put up the movies Clint Eastwood has made in the last decade vs any director you want … who’s movies are better rated? Jar Jar Abrams? M Night Shyamalan? Tarantino?

    And another thing, just because he’s old – dont mean he cant still kick your assets. Punks!

    Now I have the urge to watch Sully, and find “black hole” and its too late…

    I enjoy some folks on radio shows and elsewhere who refer to him as Shamma-lamma-ding-dong.

    I’ll admit, I really liked his break out movies. “6th Sense” “Unbreakable” “Signs”, decently enjoyable movies.

    Then he got a case of success tilt or something, and hasnt made a good film since. Funny story about a night out with M Night:

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  12. Bishop Wash Member
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    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

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    kedavis (View Comment):

    It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it, but I don’t remember The Black Hole ending the way Rob and JPod describe. My recollection is that Robert Forster and the other remaining “good guys” get through safely and emerge somewhere else in the galaxy; Maximilian Schell’s character experiences a kind of “afterlife” where the robot Maximilian appears as basically the ruler of the underworld, aka Satan. I just don’t remember an angel-like character, I guess I need to see it again.

    No, you don’t. No one does. And I like truly awful movies. But if you can’t just read the Wikipedia plot summary, this will do:

    Wow …

    Wow, A bit harsh. I liked the Black Whole as well, (although I havent seen it decades) and I also dont remember it ending like that.

    Also in being a bit harsh – Why the dis on Clint Eastwood? Granted not every film is going to be great, but in recent years he’s made “Sully” – Fan freakin tastkic. “Trouble with the Curve” another excellent movie “American Sniper” … I would put up the movies Clint Eastwood has made in the last decade vs any director you want … who’s movies are better rated? Jar Jar Abrams? M Night Shyamalan? Tarantino?

    And another thing, just because he’s old – dont mean he cant still kick your assets. Punks!

    Now I have the urge to watch Sully, and find “black hole” and its too late…

    I enjoy some folks on radio shows and elsewhere who refer to him as Shamma-lamma-ding-dong.

    I’ll admit, I really liked his break out movies. “6th Sense” “Unbreakable” “Signs”, decently enjoyable movies.

    Then he got a case of success tilt or something, and hasnt made a good film since. Funny story about a night out with M Night:

    At first glance I thought that was Jonah in the thumbnail. 

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  13. filmklassik Inactive
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    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

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    It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it, but I don’t remember The Black Hole ending the way Rob and JPod describe. My recollection is that Robert Forster and the other remaining “good guys” get through safely and emerge somewhere else in the galaxy; Maximilian Schell’s character experiences a kind of “afterlife” where the robot Maximilian appears as basically the ruler of the underworld, aka Satan. I just don’t remember an angel-like character, I guess I need to see it again.

    No, you don’t. No one does. And I like truly awful movies. But if you can’t just read the Wikipedia plot summary, this will do:

    Wow …

    Wow, A bit harsh. I liked the Black Whole as well, (although I havent seen it decades) and I also dont remember it ending like that.

    Also in being a bit harsh – Why the dis on Clint Eastwood? Granted not every film is going to be great, but in recent years he’s made “Sully” – Fan freakin tastkic. “Trouble with the Curve” another excellent movie “American Sniper” … I would put up the movies Clint Eastwood has made in the last decade vs any director you want … who’s movies are better rated? Jar Jar Abrams? M Night Shyamalan? Tarantino?

    And another thing, just because he’s old – dont mean he cant still kick your assets. Punks!

    Now I have the urge to watch Sully, and find “black hole” and its too late…

    Yeah, as a director, Clint’s brand of old school professionalism and clean, unpretentious storytelling comes as a breath of fresh air in this day and age.  

    Now, do his scenes feel rushed and under-rehearsed on occasion? Indeed they do.  But that’s a small matter when weighed against the quality of his output. He really is an excellent filmmaker. And I hope he lives another hundred years.

     

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  14. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    filmklassik (View Comment):

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    It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it, but I don’t remember The Black Hole ending the way Rob and JPod describe. My recollection is that Robert Forster and the other remaining “good guys” get through safely and emerge somewhere else in the galaxy; Maximilian Schell’s character experiences a kind of “afterlife” where the robot Maximilian appears as basically the ruler of the underworld, aka Satan. I just don’t remember an angel-like character, I guess I need to see it again.

    No, you don’t. No one does. And I like truly awful movies. But if you can’t just read the Wikipedia plot summary, this will do:

    Wow …

    Wow, A bit harsh. I liked the Black Whole as well, (although I havent seen it decades) and I also dont remember it ending like that.

    Also in being a bit harsh – Why the dis on Clint Eastwood? Granted not every film is going to be great, but in recent years he’s made “Sully” – Fan freakin tastkic. “Trouble with the Curve” another excellent movie “American Sniper” … I would put up the movies Clint Eastwood has made in the last decade vs any director you want … who’s movies are better rated? Jar Jar Abrams? M Night Shyamalan? Tarantino?

    And another thing, just because he’s old – dont mean he cant still kick your assets. Punks!

    Now I have the urge to watch Sully, and find “black hole” and its too late…

    Yeah, as a director, Clint’s brand of old school professionalism and clean, unpretentious storytelling comes as a breath of fresh air in this day and age.

    Now, do his scenes feel rushed and under-rehearsed on occasion? Indeed they do. But that’s a small matter when weighed against the quality of his output. He really is an excellent filmmaker. And I hope he lives another hundred years.

     

    What is an example of a scene that was under-rehearsed or rushed? I know I would not recognize these conditions.

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  15. filmklassik Inactive
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    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

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    It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it, but I don’t remember The Black Hole ending the way Rob and JPod describe. My recollection is that Robert Forster and the other remaining “good guys” get through safely and emerge somewhere else in the galaxy; Maximilian Schell’s character experiences a kind of “afterlife” where the robot Maximilian appears as basically the ruler of the underworld, aka Satan. I just don’t remember an angel-like character, I guess I need to see it again.

    No, you don’t. No one does. And I like truly awful movies. But if you can’t just read the Wikipedia plot summary, this will do:

    Wow …

    Wow, A bit harsh. I liked the Black Whole as well, (although I havent seen it decades) and I also dont remember it ending like that.

    Also in being a bit harsh – Why the dis on Clint Eastwood? Granted not every film is going to be great, but in recent years he’s made “Sully” – Fan freakin tastkic. “Trouble with the Curve” another excellent movie “American Sniper” … I would put up the movies Clint Eastwood has made in the last decade vs any director you want … who’s movies are better rated? Jar Jar Abrams? M Night Shyamalan? Tarantino?

    And another thing, just because he’s old – dont mean he cant still kick your assets. Punks!

    Now I have the urge to watch Sully, and find “black hole” and its too late…

    Yeah, as a director, Clint’s brand of old school professionalism and clean, unpretentious storytelling comes as a breath of fresh air in this day and age.

    Now, do his scenes feel rushed and under-rehearsed on occasion? Indeed they do. But that’s a small matter when weighed against the quality of his output. He really is an excellent filmmaker. And I hope he lives another hundred years.

     

    What is an example of a scene that was under-rehearsed or rushed? I know I would not recognize these conditions.

    Too many examples to mention here, and in almost every movie. Eastwood’s a director who likes to do 2 or 3 takes maximun and then move on, and deliver his film ahead of schedule and under budget. He’s even been known to print a rehearsal take and move on.

    He is a smart, efficient filmmaker, but that kind of haste does lead to sloppiness.

    One of the most notorious examples of this in the last few years was the (unintentionally) amusing “doll” moment in AMERICAN SNIPER.

    Google it.  Even if you’re in a “Meh” mood on this particular subject (as I’m sensing you are) and don’t really wanna hear words against Eastwood because, like me, you’ve got a lot of good will for the man and his work, the story will amuse you.

     

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  16. Arahant Member
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    filmklassik (View Comment):
    Even if you’re in a “Meh” mood on this particular subject (as I’m sensing you are) and don’t really wanna hear words against Eastwood because, like me, you’ve got a lot of good will for the man and his work, the story will amuse you.

    I remember films like Bronco Billy. Enough said.

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  17. Taras Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

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    The new decade starts on January 1, 2021. Are you cats taking next year off?

    If only.

    Now, now, Drew, they can be very entertaining.

    You also listen to folk music.

    Those Wisconsin Oompa bands just get tiring after awhile.

    The GLoPers are the Keystone Kops of politics.  They are always wrong.

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  18. Taras Coolidge
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    Merrijane (View Comment):

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    It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it, but I don’t remember The Black Hole ending the way Rob and JPod describe. My recollection is that Robert Forster and the other remaining “good guys” get through safely and emerge somewhere else in the galaxy; Maximilian Schell’s character experiences a kind of “afterlife” where the robot Maximilian appears as basically the ruler of the underworld, aka Satan. I just don’t remember an angel-like character, I guess I need to see it again.

    No, you don’t. No one does. And I like truly awful movies. But if you can’t just read the Wikipedia plot summary, this will do:

    Wow …

    If 2001:  A Space Odyssey had been made by Mormons …

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  19. Taras Coolidge
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    @filmklassik — “Even relatively apolitical Americans under the age of 25 take it for granted that structural racism is very much “a thing” in this country — still — and that our cops are using young black men for target practice … and that Islamophobia is rampant … and that women are being routinely silenced merely for speaking their minds, etc. […]

    “…But maybe having small children, as JPod does, makes you less alert to it, because when they imbibe “wokeism” like Mother’s Milk (as all children do now) it inevitably makes you … to one degree or another … and no matter how Conservative you happen to be … a bit more open to it. Or at least, less inclined to think of it as toxic.”

    Remember, the GLoPers are members of the elite.  They don’t send their children to public school.

    If their local public school is teaching little white kids to hate themselves for being white, as in that seminal article by George Packer in The Atlantic, they would never know.

    The refusal of nearly all conservatives* to push back on the false “black lives matter” narrative is difficult to understand.

    On Fox News, I suspect, the management tells its on-air personnel that they will be fired if they do. Thus, I’ve seen Tucker Carlson interview BLM activists without challenging them — with, say, statistics on black-on-white crime and on police shootings by race.

    Other conservatives (or alleged conservatives like the GLoPers) may be too afraid of being smeared and blacklisted as racists.

    *Except the brave and brilliant Heather MacDonald, who is unfortunately a very poor debater.

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  20. Daniel Sterman Inactive
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    Taras (View Comment):
    Thus, I’ve seen Tucker Carlson interview BLM activists without challenging them — with, say, statistics on black-on-white crime and on police shootings by race.

    Considering Tucker’s professed love for big government and Elizabeth Warren, I think it’s more probable that he’s simply become as much of a leftist as Jennifer Rubin and Max Boot have.

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  21. Taras Coolidge
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    Daniel Sterman (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    Thus, I’ve seen Tucker Carlson interview BLM activists without challenging them — with, say, statistics on black-on-white crime and on police shootings by race.

    Considering Tucker’s professed love for big government and Elizabeth Warren, I think it’s more probable that he’s simply become as much of a leftist as Jennifer Rubin and Max Boot have.

     I can’t say I watch Carlson very often, any more, but the last time I did he still sounded like a conservative with isolationist tendencies. 

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    If JPod is in his 60s, then he’s already in his 7th decade.  His 60th birthday marked the end of his 6th decade.

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    Taras (View Comment):
    Thus, I’ve seen Tucker Carlson interview BLM activists without challenging them — with, say, statistics on black-on-white crime and on police shootings by race.

    Considering Tucker’s professed love for big government and Elizabeth Warren, I think it’s more probable that he’s simply become as much of a leftist as Jennifer Rubin and Max Boot have.

    I can’t say I watch Carlson very often, any more, but the last time I did he still sounded like a conservative with isolationist tendencies.

    He might still be a cultural conservative, but he’s definitely become a big-government leftist on all other subjects.

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  24. Merrijane Inactive
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    Taras (View Comment):
    If 2001: A Space Odyssey had been made by Mormons …

    I am a Mormon. That would not have been the direction I took. 

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  25. kedavis Coolidge
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    Merrijane (View Comment):

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    If 2001: A Space Odyssey had been made by Mormons …

    I am a Mormon. That would not have been the direction I took.

    Would your direction have been more like the original Battelstar Galactica?  :-)  That was made by Mormons.

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  26. Merrijane Inactive
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    If 2001: A Space Odyssey had been made by Mormons …

    I am a Mormon. That would not have been the direction I took.

    Would your direction have been more like the original Battelstar Galactica? :-) That was made by Mormons.

    It’s hard to say … I’m not much into science fiction. But my favorite sci-fi book by a Latter-day Saint author that was made into a movie was “Ender’s Game.” (Never actually saw the movie, though.) I think it’s better to leave overt religious symbolism out of things because it can get a little silly. 

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  27. kedavis Coolidge
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    If 2001: A Space Odyssey had been made by Mormons …

    I am a Mormon. That would not have been the direction I took.

    Would your direction have been more like the original Battelstar Galactica? :-) That was made by Mormons.

    It’s hard to say … I’m not much into science fiction. But my favorite sci-fi book by a Latter-day Saint author that was made into a movie was “Ender’s Game.” (Never actually saw the movie, though.) I think it’s better to leave overt religious symbolism out of things because it can get a little silly.

    It did get a bit silly at times in original BG.

    (Note: it’s BG unless someone can show me where International Business Machines was ever called INBM, etc.  Also, even within the “nuBG” show, their fleet emblems showed BSG for Battlestar Strike (or Ship) Group.  Galactica’s was 75, and Pegasus’s was 62.  Also the ship was never referred to as BSG, and if you want to say that BSG stands for Battlestar Galactica then those emblems mean Battlestar Galactica Galactica and Battlestar Galactica Pegasus.  I hope no one is so foolish.)

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  28. Merrijane Inactive
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    (Note: it’s BG unless someone can show me where International Business Machines was ever called INBM, etc. Also, even within the “nuBG” show, their fleet emblems showed BSG for Battlestar Strike (or Ship) Group. Galactica’s was 75, and Pegasus’s was 62. Also the ship was never referred to as BSG, and if you want to say that BSG stands for Battlestar Galactica then those emblems mean Battlestar Galactica Galactica and Battlestar Galactica Pegasus. I hope no one is so foolish.)

    You know way more about this than I ever hope to!

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  29. kedavis Coolidge
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    Merrijane (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    (Note: it’s BG unless someone can show me where International Business Machines was ever called INBM, etc. Also, even within the “nuBG” show, their fleet emblems showed BSG for Battlestar Strike (or Ship) Group. Galactica’s was 75, and Pegasus’s was 62. Also the ship was never referred to as BSG, and if you want to say that BSG stands for Battlestar Galactica then those emblems mean Battlestar Galactica Galactica and Battlestar Galactica Pegasus. I hope no one is so foolish.)

    You know way more about this than I ever hope to!

    Well I get tired of people saying “It’s BSG!  It’s BSG!”  They might think it sounds cooler or something, or they don’t want to be reminded of high-singing British brothers, but it’s still wrong.

    And sadly, even Lileks is wrong about that.  And I hate having to be the one to correct him.

    “Oh, the pain, the pain!”

    (Yes, that’s a different show!)

    It’s a lousy job, but someone has to do it.

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