In the second of this week’s podcasts, the COMMENTARY gang (John Podhoretz, Abe Greenwald, and Noah Rothman) look into the reporting on the Trump political machine that reveals it really ain’t much of a machine. We also examine the genuinely distasteful revelations from the Wikileaks email dump about the machinations behind the Clinton money machine—a machine that went into high gear to fund the Clinton lifestyle, the Clinton Foundation, and Hillary Clinton’s personal staff.

We conclude with thoughts about whether the Republican Party even ought to be saved. Give a listen.

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  1. Stad Thatcher

    Ricochet Audio Network: We conclude with thoughts about whether the Republican Party even ought to be saved.

    I haven’t listened to the podcast, but I’ll say this: We need to stop Hillary first, then we can focus on how to save the party. I suggest starting with “Listen to your base, not your donors.”

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    • October 27, 2016, at 1:28 PM PDT
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  2. HeavyWater Inactive

    Stad:

    Ricochet Audio Network: We conclude with thoughts about whether the Republican Party even ought to be saved.

    I haven’t listened to the podcast, but I’ll say this: We need to stop Hillary first, then we can focus on how to save the party. I suggest starting with “Listen to your base, not your donors.”

    I argue the opposite. Defeat Trump, then work on rebuilding the conservative movement within the Republican party.

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    • October 27, 2016, at 2:49 PM PDT
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  3. Stad Thatcher

    Spiral9399: I argue the opposite. Defeat Trump, then work on rebuilding the conservative movement within the Republican party.

    If Hillary wins, there will be no conservative movement left from which to rebuild the Republican Party.

    By the way, the Republicans have never been a conservative party. They’ve only been the place we conservatives have gone to vote. I want a fighter on my side. Undecided voters and young people see the Democrats fighting tooth and nail for their positions, but they contrast that with what they see our so-called conservative leadership not standing up for what we believe.

    No more, no more. Trump may only be 3% conservative, but that is a heck of a lot better than -100% conservative represented by Hillary Clinton. A vote for anyone other than Trump is a vote to put the worst human being on the planet in the most powerful office in the world.

    To me, taking action (or through inaction) to put her in the Oval Office is the antithesis of what I believe in – enabling conservatism’s destruction . . .

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    • October 27, 2016, at 3:24 PM PDT
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  4. Tim H. Member

    I disagree, Stad, but I understand your thinking. I believe that Trump’s effect within the Republican Party is more likely to destroy the conservative movement than losing to Hillary, who is outside it. This is because it is pulling Republicans and apparently a number of at least nominal conservatives away from conservatism. How do they come back to it?

    Losing to Hillary doesn’t change us, aside from adding to our existing frustrations about winning.

    I think I have a slight preference for Trump winning (and I certainly wish Hillary to lose), but I think that Trump winning is likely to be worse for us, both in the short and long term.

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    • October 28, 2016, at 3:07 PM PDT
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