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  1. filmklassik Member

    This (great) ep was posted, then taken down. Now it’s back. Technical problems?

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    • July 11, 2019, at 11:59 AM PDT
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  2. Daniel Sterman Listener

    Excellent episode – but there’s some heavy irony in the discussion of overt vs. covert racism among Republicans given Trump’s tweets yesterday.

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    • July 15, 2019, at 10:14 AM PDT
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  3. filmklassik Member

    Daniel Sterman (View Comment):

    Excellent episode – but there’s some heavy irony in the discussion of overt vs. covert racism among Republicans given Trump’s tweets yesterday.

    Exactly so! All he had to do was sit on his hands and not speak while the Democrats imolate themselves — and he just couldn’t do it! Trump may be, literally, the dumbest person to occupy the White House in the last 100 years — including a post-stroke Woodrow Wilson.

    Nothing else can account for Sunday’s idiocy. Nothing.

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    • July 15, 2019, at 10:40 AM PDT
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  4. Daniel Sterman Listener

    filmklassik (View Comment):
    Exactly so! All he had to do was sit on his hands and not speak while the Democrats imolate themselves — and he just couldn’t do it!

    I can’t agree with this at all.

    It’s rather like saying “all Bob had to do was refrain from committing murder, and he just couldn’t do it”. The problem with Trump’s statement was not that it was politically unintelligent – the problem with it is that it was morally reprehensible.

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    • July 15, 2019, at 10:49 AM PDT
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  5. filmklassik Member

    Daniel Sterman (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):
    Exactly so! All he had to do was sit on his hands and not speak while the Democrats imolate themselves — and he just couldn’t do it!

    I can’t agree with this at all.

    It’s rather like saying “all Bob had to do was refrain from committing murder, and he just couldn’t do it”. The problem with Trump’s statement was not that it was politically unintelligent – the problem with it is that it was morally reprehensible.

    Two things can be true at once. Trump’s statement can be both politically maladroit (truth #1) and morally reprehensible (truth #2).

    Such things are not mutually exclusive. 

    And Trump is no stranger to shooting himself in the foot politically, and also saying and tweeting things that would make Archie Bunker blush with embarrassment (“I don’t know David Duke …” “I have no respect for POWs …” “Bush & Cheney lied us into the Iraq War…” “P***y grabbing…” “Ted Cruz’s dad may have helped assassinate JFK …” the list goes on and on.)

    So the choice this time is between a moronic probable bigot and his populist, anti-intellectual support base … and a contingent that would like to see America become socialist, emasculated, and utterly PC.

    So, pick your poison.

    I’m abstaining completely.

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    • July 15, 2019, at 3:00 PM PDT
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  6. Daniel Sterman Listener

    filmklassik (View Comment):
    Two things can be true at once. Trump’s statement can be both politically maladroit (truth #1) and morally reprehensible (truth #2).

    Agreed. But the trouble is I’m seeing a lot of conservatives willing to freely discuss #1 but being strangely reticent to point out #2, whereas I personally believe #2 is so much more important that #1 isn’t even worth pointing out.

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    • July 15, 2019, at 9:53 PM PDT
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  7. filmklassik Member

    Daniel Sterman (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):Two things can be true at once. Trump’s statement can be both politically maladroit (truth #1) and morally reprehensible (truth #2).

    Agreed. But the trouble is I’m seeing a lot of conservatives willing to freely discuss #1 but being strangely reticent to point out #2, whereas I personally believe #2 is so much more important that #1 isn’t even worth pointing out.

    I see a lot of Right wingers and dyed-in-the-wool GOP’ers who are “strangely reticent to point out #2”, but not a lot of Conservatives who are so conflicted.

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    • July 16, 2019, at 10:35 AM PDT
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