HumInt is working!

 

The term “HumInt” is from the Intelligence world, and it means intelligence gathered firsthand, by a person or persons on the ground.  It often signifies people who infiltrate terrorist groups, cults, or other kinds of groups who may be causing trouble for society.  Recently, it was discovered by a very dangerous group of real “domestic terrorists”, that their group has been infiltrated by law enforcement.

The group in question is called AntiFa, signifying their belief that they are “anti-Fascist”.  In reality, they ARE the Fascists, looting, burning, and destroying various government buildings and retail establishments at street level in their rage.

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Correspondent Andy Ngo, who has been targeted by AntiFa, wrote an article in the Free Speech publication The Epoch Times, about how AntiFa has been infiltrated.  It seems that a member of the group has been arrested in Portland, Oregon, and charged with multiple felonies.  This article has all the details, and they are VERY interesting.  Ngo says it looks like AntiFa members may be in a mild state of panic, aware that someone among them is a “snitch”, and wondering on their social media accounts just who the informer might be.  Let’s hope that AntiFa becomes VERY afraid of the informer in their ranks, and disintegrates in accusations, panic, and paranoia.  It couldn’t happen to a more destructive group.  May they be too worried about who the infiltrator is to engage in their normal rioting and mayhem.

Also, I urge everyone to read and to support The Epoch Times, a publication originally started in Hong Kong, which has now branched out to the U.S.  They publish The Truth about current events, and they deserve the support of the public in their endeavors.  Here is a link to their article on the attack on the Hong Kong printing press.

[originally posted on RushBabe49.com]

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  1. Sisyphus Member
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    I second the endorsement of the Epoch Times. They are so good their Hong Kong office received a visit from anonymous goons with hammers in the grand CCP tradition. And of Andy Ngo, for that matter. He dares much to reveal the truth, and has a new book out on Antifa.

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  2. Percival Thatcher
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    There was an episode last summer where a van-load of people from Portland on their way to Kenosha got bagged before they had even arrived, and I thought at the time that Antifa had a mole problem. But then nothing else happened.

    Or at least, nothing else that they were prepared to share.

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  3. Flicker Member
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    I would think that if the federal and state law enforcement were serious, they would have been tracking anti-fa’s cell phone activity for the last year, mapping communications, and making well-publicized arrests once a month.  And then taking down higher and higher placed executives and publishing them.  This may be being done, but firstly, Ngo would probably have known about it and reported it, and secondly, I’m not aware of any public releases of those arrested which would have acted to squelch a lot of the criminal activity.

    I don’t see that humint would even be necessary if this were being done.

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  4. DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) Coolidge
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    Some people say that “AntiFA” stands for anti-First Amendment.  I guess because they oppose peaceful assembly, religious freedom, free speech, right of petition, and a free press. 

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  5. RushBabe49 Thatcher
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    Antifa has no organization but consists of many small cells. You would have to infiltrate a cell or many cells. They communicate through private social media. 

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  6. Flicker Member
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    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    Antifa has no organization but consists of many small cells. You would have to infiltrate a cell or many cells. They communicate through private social media.

    But when 50 or a 100 show up from out of state at a protest there must be some higher order inter-cell communication mustn’t there?  And training is apparently extensive.  For integration of methods and in order to work together, there must be a coordinating group, mustn’t there?  There must be a web with hubs.

    I obviously don’t know.  I’m just asking.

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  7. RushBabe49 Thatcher
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    Antifa has no organization but consists of many small cells. You would have to infiltrate a cell or many cells. They communicate through private social media.

    But when 50 or a 100 show up from out of state at a protest there must be some higher order inter-cell communication mustn’t there? And training is apparently extensive. For integration of methods and in order to work together, there must be a coordinating group, mustn’t there? There must be a web with hubs.

    I obviously don’t know. I’m just asking.

    Nope, not really.  The cells have the same basic structure, they read the news just like you and I do, and know when the riot opportunities happen.  Their weapons and tactics are pretty much the same, and it’s pretty easy to figure out where to be, and when (at the scene of a trial, or at a park where is a demonstration, about an hour before dark).  The cells in Seattle and Portland know exactly where the targets are, nearly every day.  Downtown businesses have been vulnerable for the past year, due to Covid restrictions that the city governments impose.  Force multiplication with zero effort.

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  8. Skyler Coolidge
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    It’s pretty shameful that this has taken so long.  It can only be a whole lot of disinterest on the part of police and the FBI.

    Antifa is not Al Qaeda.  They don’t have billions of dollars and a foreign culture to protect them from view.  They are low lifes, with some resources, but not that much.  They have been very visible at protests but they never get arrested.  It’s inexcusable that they’ve been immune from prosecution for so long.

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  9. Eugene Kriegsmann Member
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    According to Andy Ngo’s book, there is a definite organization of Antifa. They publish materials and hold trainings which are highly organized and regimented. This is not a characteristic of a group without some form of central control. They have the experience of many leftist organizations from the past who were sniffed out and exposed to increase their opaqueness. They also hold as a primary tenet that the structure remains completely secret. Andy did an amazing job of getting so much information on them, and his information is further confirmed by the manner in which he is attacked. Just take a look at the reviews of his book on Amazon. They are peppered with outrageous attacks on Andy himself and his “lies.” The contrast between those “reviews” and legitimate reviews by people who actually read the book is stark. There is no doubt that an organized attempt to destroy Andy’s credibility was mounted by Antifa. They have used some of their best writers to do so. Many of these aren’t the inarticulate, profane nonsense that you see when the reviews are spontaneously written by some odd member.

    If you haven’t read Andy’s book and you oppose Antifa, you should definitely buy and read the book. Every purchase is a thumb in the eye of those animals.

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  10. DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone Coolidge
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    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):
    According to Andy Ngo’s book, there is a definite organization of Antifa. They publish materials and hold trainings which are highly organized and regimented.

    And they are financed by deep pocketed Democrats.

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  11. Flicker Member
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    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    According to Andy Ngo’s book, there is a definite organization of Antifa. They publish materials and hold trainings which are highly organized and regimented. This is not a characteristic of a group without some form of central control. They have the experience of many leftist organizations from the past who were sniffed out and exposed to increase their opaqueness. They also hold as a primary tenet that the structure remains completely secret. Andy did an amazing job of getting so much information on them, and his information is further confirmed by the manner in which he is attacked. Just take a look at the reviews of his book on Amazon. They are peppered with outrageous attacks on Andy himself and his “lies.” The contrast between those “reviews” and legitimate reviews by people who actually read the book is stark. There is no doubt that an organized attempt to destroy Andy’s credibility was mounted by Antifa. They have used some of their best writers to do so. Many of these aren’t the inarticulate, profane nonsense that you see when the reviews are spontaneously written by some odd member.

    If you haven’t read Andy’s book and you oppose Antifa, you should definitely buy and read the book. Every purchase is a thumb in the eye of those animals.

    And they appear to be well funded.

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  12. DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone Coolidge
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    According to Andy Ngo’s book, there is a definite organization of Antifa. They publish materials and hold trainings which are highly organized and regimented. This is not a characteristic of a group without some form of central control. They have the experience of many leftist organizations from the past who were sniffed out and exposed to increase their opaqueness. They also hold as a primary tenet that the structure remains completely secret. Andy did an amazing job of getting so much information on them, and his information is further confirmed by the manner in which he is attacked. Just take a look at the reviews of his book on Amazon. They are peppered with outrageous attacks on Andy himself and his “lies.” The contrast between those “reviews” and legitimate reviews by people who actually read the book is stark. There is no doubt that an organized attempt to destroy Andy’s credibility was mounted by Antifa. They have used some of their best writers to do so. Many of these aren’t the inarticulate, profane nonsense that you see when the reviews are spontaneously written by some odd member.

    If you haven’t read Andy’s book and you oppose Antifa, you should definitely buy and read the book. Every purchase is a thumb in the eye of those animals.

    And they appear to be well funded.

    Yep. It’s time to reveal their funding. (Of course, we’d need some honest media outlets. We know CNN would never say anything that might harm their fascist footsoldiers.)

     

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  13. The Reticulator Member
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    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    According to Andy Ngo’s book, there is a definite organization of Antifa. They publish materials and hold trainings which are highly organized and regimented. This is not a characteristic of a group without some form of central control. They have the experience of many leftist organizations from the past who were sniffed out and exposed to increase their opaqueness. They also hold as a primary tenet that the structure remains completely secret. Andy did an amazing job of getting so much information on them, and his information is further confirmed by the manner in which he is attacked. Just take a look at the reviews of his book on Amazon. They are peppered with outrageous attacks on Andy himself and his “lies.” The contrast between those “reviews” and legitimate reviews by people who actually read the book is stark. There is no doubt that an organized attempt to destroy Andy’s credibility was mounted by Antifa. They have used some of their best writers to do so. Many of these aren’t the inarticulate, profane nonsense that you see when the reviews are spontaneously written by some odd member.

    If you haven’t read Andy’s book and you oppose Antifa, you should definitely buy and read the book. Every purchase is a thumb in the eye of those animals.

    Are you talking about the one titled “Unmasked”?

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  14. RushBabe49 Thatcher
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    Andy Ngo is one of the speakers at the Hillsdale College seminar we will be attending in Nashville next week. I wonder if he will be there in person. 

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  15. Eugene Kriegsmann Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    According to Andy Ngo’s book, there is a definite organization of Antifa. They publish materials and hold trainings which are highly organized and regimented. This is not a characteristic of a group without some form of central control. They have the experience of many leftist organizations from the past who were sniffed out and exposed to increase their opaqueness. They also hold as a primary tenet that the structure remains completely secret. Andy did an amazing job of getting so much information on them, and his information is further confirmed by the manner in which he is attacked. Just take a look at the reviews of his book on Amazon. They are peppered with outrageous attacks on Andy himself and his “lies.” The contrast between those “reviews” and legitimate reviews by people who actually read the book is stark. There is no doubt that an organized attempt to destroy Andy’s credibility was mounted by Antifa. They have used some of their best writers to do so. Many of these aren’t the inarticulate, profane nonsense that you see when the reviews are spontaneously written by some odd member.

    If you haven’t read Andy’s book and you oppose Antifa, you should definitely buy and read the book. Every purchase is a thumb in the eye of those animals.

    Are you talking about the one titled “Unmasked”?

    YEP!

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  16. Eugene Kriegsmann Member
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    DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone (View Comment):

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):
    According to Andy Ngo’s book, there is a definite organization of Antifa. They publish materials and hold trainings which are highly organized and regimented.

    And they are financed by deep pocketed Democrats.

    No Question about that. Andy says that they are getting firearms training as well. I am sure that Soros is contributing a lot. It is right up his alley. However, with the castrated media we have, including Foxnews, it is unlikely that anyone is going to do the deep research necessary to uncover the whole picture.

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  17. The Reticulator Member
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    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    Are you talking about the one titled “Unmasked”?

    YEP!

    Thx. Just wanted to make sure I got the book you were talking about.

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  18. Flicker Member
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    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone (View Comment):

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):
    According to Andy Ngo’s book, there is a definite organization of Antifa. They publish materials and hold trainings which are highly organized and regimented.

    And they are financed by deep pocketed Democrats.

    No Question about that. Andy says that they are getting firearms training as well. I am sure that Soros is contributing a lot. It is right up his alley. However, with the castrated media we have, including Foxnews, it is unlikely that anyone is going to do the deep research necessary to uncover the whole picture.

    Yes, and the firearms training points to the utility of electronic tracking.  Someone has to buy the guns, transport the guns, and provide the training space or gun range.  Someone has to schedule the meet-up for the training.  I believe that guns were stored at a safe house on at least one occasion.  These all could be discerned by analyzing the phone records of arrested anti-fa and BLM members.  But if it’s happening, it’s below the public radar.

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  19. Retail Lawyer Member
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    But won’t any charges against an antifa person be dropped?  Federal and State?  That’s how its going in these revolutionary times.  It appears the government is OK with some rioting, even arson.  

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  20. Sisyphus Member
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    Retail Lawyer (View Comment):

    But won’t any charges against an antifa person be dropped? Federal and State? That’s how its going in these revolutionary times. It appears the government is OK with some rioting, even arson.

    More than OK, Kamala personally sponsored and endorsed free bail for violent criminals. Trying to shake her prosecutorial reputation?

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  21. DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone Coolidge
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    Retail Lawyer (View Comment):

    It appears the government is OK with some rioting, even arson.

    That’s certainly how it appears. At all levels of government, our leaders cower before these thugs. Their approach is almost like dealing with spoiled children for whom they have low to no expectations of civility. “We know you’re animals and we know you’ll burn things down and kill people, so we’ll just step aside for now and work on cleaning up your mess later.”

    There’s nobody saying “I don’t care if you disagree with the outcome of a court case. That is no excuse to destroy a neighborhood.” Instead they’re saying “We expect you to behave like criminals, so we’ll give it our reluctant blessing.”

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  22. Sisyphus Member
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    DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone (View Comment):

    Retail Lawyer (View Comment):

    It appears the government is OK with some rioting, even arson.

    That’s certainly how it appears. At all levels of government, our leaders cower before these thugs. Their approach is almost like dealing with spoiled children for whom they have low to no expectations of civility. “We know you’re animals and we know you’ll burn things down and kill people, so we’ll just step aside for now and work on cleaning up your mess later.”

    There’s nobody saying “I don’t care if you disagree with the outcome of a court case. That is no excuse to destroy a neighborhood.” Instead they’re saying “We expect you to behave like criminals, so we’ll give it our reluctant blessing.”

    Government by the people who were never spanked. Curse you Dr. Spock!

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  23. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    Antifa has no organization but consists of many small cells. You would have to infiltrate a cell or many cells. They communicate through private social media.

    But when 50 or a 100 show up from out of state at a protest there must be some higher order inter-cell communication mustn’t there? And training is apparently extensive. For integration of methods and in order to work together, there must be a coordinating group, mustn’t there? There must be a web with hubs.

    I obviously don’t know. I’m just asking.

    Nope, not really. The cells have the same basic structure, they read the news just like you and I do, and know when the riot opportunities happen. Their weapons and tactics are pretty much the same, and it’s pretty easy to figure out where to be, and when (at the scene of a trial, or at a park where is a demonstration, about an hour before dark). The cells in Seattle and Portland know exactly where the targets are, nearly every day. Downtown businesses have been vulnerable for the past year, due to Covid restrictions that the city governments impose. Force multiplication with zero effort.

    Sad to realize that people in these various AntiFa cells are mostly going about free to be continuing to continue their activities. Meanwhile a few rather innocent RW people are being charged with so many trumped up Fed crimes for their walking through the already opened up Capital Building on Jan 6th,  that they might be facing 30 years in jail.

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