The Best of Its Kind

 

There are very few things that are universally recognized as the best of their kind. But some things were simply better than everything that came before them, and remain better than anything since. In honor of Rush Limbaugh, who was the best talk radio broadcaster in history, I thought it would be fun to hear some of your thoughts on what is the best of its kind. Any category will do – best beer, best album, best handgun – so let’s hear it.

I will say right up front that the best toy for children of all ages are Legos. They’re educational, versatile, can be used to create more than their advertised design, loved cross-culturally, and cross-gender, and are a better investment than many stocks.

What’s your best?

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  1. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Hartmann von Aue (View Comment):

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    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):
    Best Rock Album: Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon

    Yes.

    If you like depressing nihilism set to music, sure. That is what I have come to intensely dislike about that album. The musician ship is world-class, for certain. The songwriting is very good. And the worldview behind it completely corrosive.

    Admittedly it’s been a while since I’ve listened to it. As a teenager I used to fall asleep to it every night, and when I first played it for my wife she was unimpressed (she’s a country girl, and was a choir singer). So perhaps for me its greatness is more nostalgic. I play Queen, and Rush, way more often than Pink Floyd these days, and even when I do play Floyd it’s usually the live version of ‘Comfortably Numb’ or  the A side of The Wall.

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  2. Django Member
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Hartmann von Aue (View Comment):

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    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):
    Best Rock Album: Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon

    Yes.

    If you like depressing nihilism set to music, sure. That is what I have come to intensely dislike about that album. The musician ship is world-class, for certain. The songwriting is very good. And the worldview behind it completely corrosive.

    Admittedly it’s been a while since I’ve listened to it. As a teenager I used to fall asleep to it every night, and when I first played it for my wife she was unimpressed (she’s a country girl, and was a choir singer). So perhaps for me its greatness is more nostalgic. I play Queen, and Rush, way more often than Pink Floyd these days, and even when I do play Floyd it’s usually the live version of ‘Comfortably Numb’ or the A side of The Wall.

    In the popular music world nothing can touch Aja by Steely Dan, though obviously opinions vary. 

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  3. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Best sitcom: Fawlty Towers.

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  4. Saint Augustine Member
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    Mark Camp (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    …cartoon based on Plato’s Meno: mine.

    Plato here assumes that the idea to which a word (virtue) refers is discoverable by dialog.

    Did the real Plato also do that?

    (I did study Plato, but at the time I was unaware of the existence of this common fallacy, so I never learned whether he was guilty of it or not.)

    Why is that? They don’t even get around to figuring out what virtue is in Meno.

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  5. OldPhil Coolidge
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    Django (View Comment):
    In the popular music world nothing can touch Aja by Steely Dan, though obviously opinions vary. 

    Damn. We were supposed to see Donald Fagen and Steve Winwood at Wolf Trap last July, but you-know-what happened. Tickets still good for this July (fingers crossed).

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  6. Django Member
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    Django (View Comment):
    In the popular music world nothing can touch Aja by Steely Dan, though obviously opinions vary.

    Damn. We were supposed to see Donald Fagen and Steve Winwood at Wolf Trap last July, but you-know-what happened. Tickets still good for this July (fingers crossed).

    Steely Dan were unsurpassed at crafting beautiful melodies coupled with near-perfect production and then pairing those with some of the sleaziest lyrics in pop music. 

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  7. Saint Augustine Member
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    …cartoon based on Plato’s Meno: mine.

    Plato here assumes that the idea to which a word (virtue) refers is discoverable by dialog.

    Did the real Plato also do that?

    (I did study Plato, but at the time I was unaware of the existence of this common fallacy, so I never learned whether he was guilty of it or not.)

    Why is that? They don’t even get around to figuring out what virtue is in Meno.

    But on the other hand Socrates does seem convinced that dialogue has a decent chance of discovering the truth. So I guess I should accept the premise of the question.

    Did Plato think so too? I think he probably thought at least that dialogue can get us closer.

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  8. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):
    As a teenager I used to fall asleep to it every night

    The lullaby of tawdry?

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  9. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):
    As a teenager I used to fall asleep to it every night

    The lullaby of tawdry?

    May explain my pathos. 

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  10. MWD B612 "Dawg" Member
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Best sitcom: Fawlty Towers.

    Well, of course you’d think so.

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  11. kedavis Coolidge
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    Best Star Trek soprano:

     

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  12. navyjag Coolidge
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    Way too much fine arts, literature and music culture for this accounting major and lawyer. But thought I should contribute something in the literature area.

    Best WWII novel:   Catch 22

    Best Viet Nam war novel:  Matterhorn.

     

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  13. Mark Camp Member
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    …cartoon based on Plato’s Meno: mine.

    Plato here assumes that the idea to which a word (virtue) refers is discoverable by dialog.

    Did the real Plato also do that?

    (I did study Plato, but at the time I was unaware of the existence of this common fallacy, so I never learned whether he was guilty of it or not.)

    Why is that? They don’t even get around to figuring out what virtue is in Meno.

    But on the other hand Socrates does seem convinced that dialogue has a decent chance of discovering the truth. So I guess I should accept the premise of the question.

    Did Plato think so too? I think he probably thought at least that dialogue can get us closer.

    The belief that  one can discover some meaning inherent in a word is fallacious. Words are symbols invented and arbitrarily assigned to things, for that purpose only.

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  14. Saint Augustine Member
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    Mark Camp (View Comment):

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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Mark Camp (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    …cartoon based on Plato’s Meno: mine.

    Plato here assumes that the idea to which a word (virtue) refers is discoverable by dialog.

    Did the real Plato also do that?

    (I did study Plato, but at the time I was unaware of the existence of this common fallacy, so I never learned whether he was guilty of it or not.)

    Why is that? They don’t even get around to figuring out what virtue is in Meno.

    But on the other hand Socrates does seem convinced that dialogue has a decent chance of discovering the truth. So I guess I should accept the premise of the question.

    Did Plato think so too? I think he probably thought at least that dialogue can get us closer.

    The belief that one can discover some meaning inherent in a word is fallacious. Words are symbols invented and arbitrarily assigned to things, for that purpose only.

    I’m pretty sure Plato knows that. They’re talking about virtue the thing, not the name.

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  15. Hartmann von Aue Member
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    Best novel in English: Pride and Prejudice.

    Best sacred music, choral category: Allegri’s Miserere.

    Best paternal character in English literature: Mister Bennett. 

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  16. Hartmann von Aue Member
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    Best guitar: Fender Stratocaster.

    Always wanted one! I used to have a Gibson “The Paul,” which has a solid walnut body. Gave it up because I have carpal tunnel, so now I’ve moved to the bass.

    What are you playing? I have a Les Paul Goth 4-string and being small in stature I have to be careful with picking my instruments. 

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  17. Hartmann von Aue Member
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Best sitcom: Fawlty Towers.

    Obviously. 

    “Don’t mention the war.”

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  18. Mark Camp Member
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    Mark Camp (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Mark Camp (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    …cartoon based on Plato’s Meno: mine.

    Plato here assumes that the idea to which a word (virtue) refers is discoverable by dialog.

    Did the real Plato also do that?

    (I did study Plato, but at the time I was unaware of the existence of this common fallacy, so I never learned whether he was guilty of it or not.)

    Why is that? They don’t even get around to figuring out what virtue is in Meno.

    But on the other hand Socrates does seem convinced that dialogue has a decent chance of discovering the truth. So I guess I should accept the premise of the question.

    Did Plato think so too? I think he probably thought at least that dialogue can get us closer.

    The belief that one can discover some meaning inherent in a word is fallacious. Words are symbols invented and arbitrarily designated as pointers to things, for that purpose only.

     

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  19. Mark Camp Member
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):
    They’re talking about virtue the thing, not the name.

    If I understand you correctly, you mean,

    A: They are talking about virtue: the specific that the have agreed to refer to with the name “virtue”, not the name.

    If that is what you meant, then what question are they trying to answer through dialogue?

    They have stated the answer to that. Their question is

    B: What is virtue?  

    In other words, their question is

    C: What is the specific thing that we have agree to refer to as virtue?

    It is an example of a meaningless dialog, because it is circular–self-referential.  It is like the question in the Barber’s Paradox (which is not a paradox at all, just a meaningless question.

     

     

     

     

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  20. Saint Augustine Member
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    Mark Camp (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):
    They’re talking about virtue the thing, not the name.

    If I understand you correctly, you mean,

    A: They are talking about virtue: the specific [real thing] that the have agreed to refer to with the name “virtue”, not the name.

    Yes.

    If that is what you meant, then what question are they trying to answer through dialogue?

    They have stated the answer to that. Their question is

    B: What is virtue?

    In other words, their question is

    C: What is the specific thing that we have agree to refer to as virtue?

    It is an example of a meaningless dialog, because it is circular–self-referential. It is like the question in the Barber’s Paradox (which is not a paradox at all, just a meaningless question.

    “Can it be taught?” is the main question.

    Socrates thinks they should figure out “What is it?” first.

    But Meno doesn’t cooperate.

    (As I recall.)

    I don’t understand why you think the “What is it?” question is circular.  They’re talking about a thing, a real thing.  You and I agree to use the word “Ricochet” to refer to this website, and am I supposed to think the question “What is Ricochet?” is meaningless?

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  21. James Lileks Contributor
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    Hartmann von Aue (View Comment):

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    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):
    Best Rock Album: Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon

    Yes.

    If you like depressing nihilism set to music, sure. That is what I have come to intensely dislike about that album. The musician ship is world-class, for certain. The songwriting is very good. And the worldview behind it completely corrosive.

    Yeah. It’s always interesting to consider the band:

    Keyboard player: I’ll be over here playing my keyboards

    Drummer: I’ll be drumming along

    Guitarist: I will be creating epic slabs of sound with a distinctive lead sound both loose and piercing, languid and ominous

    Songwriter: I HATE EVERYONE AND I’M SMARTER THAN EVERYONE AND MY DAD DIED IN THE WAR AND DON’T GET ME STARTED ON THE JEWS

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  22. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

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    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):
    Best Rock Album: Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon

    Yes.

    If you like depressing nihilism set to music, sure. That is what I have come to intensely dislike about that album. The musician ship is world-class, for certain. The songwriting is very good. And the worldview behind it completely corrosive.

    Yeah. It’s always interesting to consider the band:

    Keyboard player: I’ll be over here playing my keyboards

    Drummer: I’ll be drumming along

    Guitarist: I will be creating epic slabs of sound with a distinctive lead sound both loose and piercing, languid and ominous

    Songwriter: I HATE EVERYONE AND I’M SMARTER THAN EVERYONE AND MY DAD DIED IN THE WAR AND DON’T GET ME STARTED ON THE JEWS

    My wife was surprised that I never thought much, or cared much about the lyrics, it was always about the music for me. Otherwise, ‘Mother’  ‘Hotel California’, ‘Badge’, and ‘Fat Bottom Girls’ wouldn’t have been as enjoyable. Just crank up the volume and don’t overthink it.

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  23. kedavis Coolidge
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

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    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):
    Best Rock Album: Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon

    Yes.

    If you like depressing nihilism set to music, sure. That is what I have come to intensely dislike about that album. The musician ship is world-class, for certain. The songwriting is very good. And the worldview behind it completely corrosive.

    Yeah. It’s always interesting to consider the band:

    Keyboard player: I’ll be over here playing my keyboards

    Drummer: I’ll be drumming along

    Guitarist: I will be creating epic slabs of sound with a distinctive lead sound both loose and piercing, languid and ominous

    Songwriter: I HATE EVERYONE AND I’M SMARTER THAN EVERYONE AND MY DAD DIED IN THE WAR AND DON’T GET ME STARTED ON THE JEWS

    My wife was surprised that I never thought much, or cared much about the lyrics, it was always about the music for me. Otherwise, ‘Mother’ ‘Hotel California’, ‘Badge’, and ‘Fat Bottom Girls’ wouldn’t have been as enjoyable. Just crank up the volume and don’t overthink it.

    In a situation like that, maybe just buy it used so the otherwise-awful musician(s) don’t get paid more for their awfulness.

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  24. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Best Rock Album: Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon

    Yes.

    If you like depressing nihilism set to music, sure. That is what I have come to intensely dislike about that album. The musician ship is world-class, for certain. The songwriting is very good. And the worldview behind it completely corrosive.

    Yeah. It’s always interesting to consider the band:

    Keyboard player: I’ll be over here playing my keyboards

    Drummer: I’ll be drumming along

    Guitarist: I will be creating epic slabs of sound with a distinctive lead sound both loose and piercing, languid and ominous

    Songwriter: I HATE EVERYONE AND I’M SMARTER THAN EVERYONE AND MY DAD DIED IN THE WAR AND DON’T GET ME STARTED ON THE JEWS

    My wife was surprised that I never thought much, or cared much about the lyrics, it was always about the music for me. Otherwise, ‘Mother’ ‘Hotel California’, ‘Badge’, and ‘Fat Bottom Girls’ wouldn’t have been as enjoyable. Just crank up the volume and don’t overthink it.

    In a situation like that, maybe just buy it used so the otherwise-awful musician(s) don’t get paid more for their awfulness.

    I got quite a lot of my digital collection during that glorious year 2000, via Napster, until Metallica went and ruined it all. 

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  25. Hartmann von Aue Member
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    Best Rock Album: Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon

    Yes.

    If you like depressing nihilism set to music, sure. That is what I have come to intensely dislike about that album. The musician ship is world-class, for certain. The songwriting is very good. And the worldview behind it completely corrosive.

    Yeah. It’s always interesting to consider the band:

    Keyboard player: I’ll be over here playing my keyboards

    Drummer: I’ll be drumming along

    Guitarist: I will be creating epic slabs of sound with a distinctive lead sound both loose and piercing, languid and ominous

    Songwriter: I HATE EVERYONE AND I’M SMARTER THAN EVERYONE AND MY DAD DIED IN THE WAR AND DON’T GET ME STARTED ON THE JEWS

    My wife was surprised that I never thought much, or cared much about the lyrics, it was always about the music for me. Otherwise, ‘Mother’ ‘Hotel California’, ‘Badge’, and ‘Fat Bottom Girls’ wouldn’t have been as enjoyable. Just crank up the volume and don’t overthink it.

    In a situation like that, maybe just buy it used so the otherwise-awful musician(s) don’t get paid more for their awfulness.

    I got quite a lot of my digital collection during that glorious year 2000, via Napster, until Metallica went and ruined it all.

    Napster…egads. I had forgotten Napster. 

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  26. kedavis Coolidge
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    Best Rock Album: Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon

    Yes.

    If you like depressing nihilism set to music, sure. That is what I have come to intensely dislike about that album. The musician ship is world-class, for certain. The songwriting is very good. And the worldview behind it completely corrosive.

    Yeah. It’s always interesting to consider the band:

    Keyboard player: I’ll be over here playing my keyboards

    Drummer: I’ll be drumming along

    Guitarist: I will be creating epic slabs of sound with a distinctive lead sound both loose and piercing, languid and ominous

    Songwriter: I HATE EVERYONE AND I’M SMARTER THAN EVERYONE AND MY DAD DIED IN THE WAR AND DON’T GET ME STARTED ON THE JEWS

    My wife was surprised that I never thought much, or cared much about the lyrics, it was always about the music for me. Otherwise, ‘Mother’ ‘Hotel California’, ‘Badge’, and ‘Fat Bottom Girls’ wouldn’t have been as enjoyable. Just crank up the volume and don’t overthink it.

    In a situation like that, maybe just buy it used so the otherwise-awful musician(s) don’t get paid more for their awfulness.

    I got quite a lot of my digital collection during that glorious year 2000, via Napster, until Metallica went and ruined it all.

    It’s still possible to get stuff like that now for free, but the quality is probably much better.

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  27. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Best Rock Album: Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon

    Yes.

    If you like depressing nihilism set to music, sure. That is what I have come to intensely dislike about that album. The musician ship is world-class, for certain. The songwriting is very good. And the worldview behind it completely corrosive.

    Yeah. It’s always interesting to consider the band:

    Keyboard player: I’ll be over here playing my keyboards

    Drummer: I’ll be drumming along

    Guitarist: I will be creating epic slabs of sound with a distinctive lead sound both loose and piercing, languid and ominous

    Songwriter: I HATE EVERYONE AND I’M SMARTER THAN EVERYONE AND MY DAD DIED IN THE WAR AND DON’T GET ME STARTED ON THE JEWS

    My wife was surprised that I never thought much, or cared much about the lyrics, it was always about the music for me. Otherwise, ‘Mother’ ‘Hotel California’, ‘Badge’, and ‘Fat Bottom Girls’ wouldn’t have been as enjoyable. Just crank up the volume and don’t overthink it.

    In a situation like that, maybe just buy it used so the otherwise-awful musician(s) don’t get paid more for their awfulness.

    I got quite a lot of my digital collection during that glorious year 2000, via Napster, until Metallica went and ruined it all.

    It’s still possible to get stuff like that now for free, but the quality is probably much better.

    I experimented with Morpheus when Napster went down but the user interface didn’t even compare. Plus, once the litigation was settled there was that whole ethical dilemma revolving around digital piracy. Later on I found sites like MP3Panda where you could buy lower quality files for super cheap prices ($0.05/song) but I worried that I was possibly funding the Russian mafia or something. The legality is shady sometimes when dealing with overseas websites and in many ways we’re still in the wild west of digital content distribution, with the rules changing annually and the software always a few steps ahead. 

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    Best Rock Album: Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon

    Yes.

    If you like depressing nihilism set to music, sure. That is what I have come to intensely dislike about that album. The musician ship is world-class, for certain. The songwriting is very good. And the worldview behind it completely corrosive.

    Yeah. It’s always interesting to consider the band:

    Keyboard player: I’ll be over here playing my keyboards

    Drummer: I’ll be drumming along

    Guitarist: I will be creating epic slabs of sound with a distinctive lead sound both loose and piercing, languid and ominous

    Songwriter: I HATE EVERYONE AND I’M SMARTER THAN EVERYONE AND MY DAD DIED IN THE WAR AND DON’T GET ME STARTED ON THE JEWS

    My wife was surprised that I never thought much, or cared much about the lyrics, it was always about the music for me. Otherwise, ‘Mother’ ‘Hotel California’, ‘Badge’, and ‘Fat Bottom Girls’ wouldn’t have been as enjoyable. Just crank up the volume and don’t overthink it.

    In a situation like that, maybe just buy it used so the otherwise-awful musician(s) don’t get paid more for their awfulness.

    I got quite a lot of my digital collection during that glorious year 2000, via Napster, until Metallica went and ruined it all.

    Napster…egads. I had forgotten Napster.

    The Napster was in The Italian Job

     

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