Switching Platforms

 

Ever since the censorship bug infected Facebook we’ve seen the big media gatekeepers toss aside freedom like a hot potato. We have plenty of alternatives for social media – ditch Facebook for Gab, Twitter for Parler – but for those of us with web domains and email campaigns it gets a little tricky. Mailchimp and MailerLite  started de-platforming organizations back in July when certain organizations dared question Covid data. Now, WordPress is threatening to cancel conservative websites, and Shopify is towing the communist party line.

There are plenty of alternatives for Mailchimp, WordPress, and Shopify as well, but how can we know if they stand for free-speech if they don’t wear it on their sleeve? Does anyone have insight about which companies, services, or platforms stand for free speech?

 

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  1. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):
    I’d like to know what one of the only people standing up for election integrity is doing. That pretty much goes for anyone the communists are silencing: I want to hear what they don’t want me to he

    She and Rudy are very busy being sued for $1.3 billion by Dominion Voting Systems.

    So is Joe Oltman with Conservative Daily. If you follow that podcast (one of the top in the nation) you know it’s completely erroneous and will fail. Also, he’s not backing down an inch, and neither are they. It’s called courage, and it’s lacking in conservative media circles. 

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  2. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Looks like Aweber is one of the bad guys now. They just de-platformed Sidney Powell’s legislative newsletter:

    Not a fan of deplatforming- but Sydney Powell’s newsletter is the kind of thing you expect in one of those waiting rooms from hell scenarios- you know long wait, no WiFi, weak cellphone reception and all the magazines are 3 years old or Teen Vogue etc

    I’d like to know what one of the only people standing up for election integrity is doing. That pretty much goes for anyone the communists are silencing: I want to hear what they don’t want me to hear.

    She didn’t stand up for election integrity- her clown show operation is one of the greatest impediments to getting real reform. Her antics and sleazy PR stunts (claiming she had proof on the courtroom steps but failing to even try proving them in court as in WI) discredited people advancing genuine concerns and policies to improve election integrity. She set back conservative attempts at election reform by, at least, years. She is to election reform what Sid Blumenthal was to journalistic integrity. We have real problems with our elections but her unethical behavior only aided the left in avoiding the issues.

    She and others (including myself and dozens of Ricochet members) provided it multiple times on multiple platforms. The FBI, DOJ, courts, media, and Ricochet admins all stuck their fingers in their ears and refused to look at it. We’ve been over this a hundred times.

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  3. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):
    So is Joe Oltman with Conservative Daily. If you follow that podcast (one of the top in the nation) you know it’s completely erroneous and will fail. Also, he’s not backing down an inch, and neither are they. It’s called courage, and it’s lacking in conservative media circles. 

    Ah, so you have seen the embarrassing  retractions Fox News, NewsMax, ONN, American Thinker (AT’s is especially groveling) and others have made in recent weeks when Dominion simply threatened to file defamation suits.  

    And as someone who helps run a Conservative media company and know a fair amount on this topic, allow me to set the record straight for you: courage only comes into play in a situation like this when you believe you are in the right. If you made up a story or embellished it beyond all recognition, that’s when you issue a mealy-mouthed retraction, hope no one notices, and move on with your life. Which is exactly what these companies have done. 

    Defamation and libel laws are very restrictive in the U.S., and the advantage is always with the publisher because of the 1st Amendment. That these places crumpled like an accordion in a matter of days tells you all you need to know about the amount of lies they propagated to their viewers and readers. 

    Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani will settle Dominion’s law suit or they lose them in court — something they are very used to by now. You can take that to the back, my friend.

    Joe Oltman either doesn’t know what he’s talking about or he’s lying to you. Probably both. 

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  4. The Reticulator Member
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani will settle Dominion’s law suit or they lose them in court — something they are very used to by now. You can take that to the back, my friend.

    Joe Oltman either doesn’t know what he’s talking about or he’s lying to you. Probably both. 

    I still want to hear what Sidney Powell has to say.

    And she shouldn’t be deplatformed. Period.

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  5. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    Joe Oltman either doesn’t know what he’s talking about or he’s lying to you. Probably both. 

    Sounds like you might try and get him on the podcast to discuss it. He’s in the thick of the de-platforming battle, was in DC having meetings will all of the major players on the week of the 6th and has a bunch of insight. He’s also a conservative entrepreneur, gun store owner, IT specialist and fun guy who’s discussing ways for conservatives to begin building their own infrastructure to compete with Big Tech.   

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  6. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    courage only comes into play in a situation like this when you believe you are in the right.

    As  you were saying. Notice YouTube hasn’t removed the video.

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  7. Blue Yeti Admin
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani will settle Dominion’s law suit or they lose them in court — something they are very used to by now. You can take that to the back, my friend.

    Joe Oltman either doesn’t know what he’s talking about or he’s lying to you. Probably both.

    I still want to hear what Sidney Powell has to say.

    And she shouldn’t be deplatformed. Period.

    I never said she should be de-platformed. 

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  8. The Reticulator Member
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani will settle Dominion’s law suit or they lose them in court — something they are very used to by now. You can take that to the back, my friend.

    Joe Oltman either doesn’t know what he’s talking about or he’s lying to you. Probably both.

    I still want to hear what Sidney Powell has to say.

    And she shouldn’t be deplatformed. Period.

    I never said she should be de-platformed.

    True. It went the way so many conversations go on Ricochet and elsewhere: 

    Jane: It was wrong and/or illegal the way Person X was treated.

    Jack: Person X gets no sympathy from me. Person X is a scumbag.

    I don’t like that turn of conversation, except when I do it to actual scumbags. 

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  9. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):courage only comes into play in a situation like this when you believe you are in the right.

    As you were saying. Notice YouTube hasn’t removed the video.

    Probably because (guessing here) unlike NewsMax, OANN, American Thinker, etc; YouTube still considers itself a platform, not a publisher and as such, are not held responsible for what is posted on their platform. But as we know, they are wildly inconsistent about this, so it’s likely that either they haven’t received any complaints about it, or more likely, they just haven’t gotten around to it yet.

    On the latter point, I speak from experience: we had an Uncommon Knowledge with Peter Robinson (my other job) interview with Scott Atlas that we posted in June ’20 was taken down 3 MONTHS later because YouTube didn’t agree with Dr. Atlas’ statement on the show that children under 12 were not transmitters of COVID. Well, they didn’t agree until St. Anthony Fauci said it six weeks later. In the meantime, in order to have the show re-posted, they made us put up a disclaimer over the portion of the interview where Atlas made this point. Ridiculous, but we really had no choice but to comply.

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  10. Blue Yeti Admin
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    True. It went the way so many conversations go on Ricochet and elsewhere:

    Jane: It was wrong and/or illegal the way Person X was treated.

    Jack: Person X gets no sympathy from me. Person X is a scumbag.

    I don’t like that turn of conversation, except when I do it to actual scumbags.

    Never said she was a scumbag or made any personal remarks about her. Only reported that publications that quoted her in stories about the election decided to retract and issue public apologies for those stories and therefor she may well find herself in a similar situation with regards to the lawsuit Dominion has filed against her and Giuliani.

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  11. Saint Augustine Member
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    MiMac (View Comment):
    She didn’t stand up for election integrity- her clown show operation is one of the greatest impediments to getting real reform. Her antics and sleazy PR stunts (claiming she had proof on the courtroom steps but failing to even try proving them in court as in WI) discredited people advancing genuine concerns and policies to improve election integrity. She set back conservative attempts at election reform by, at least, years. She is to election reform what Sid Blumenthal was to journalistic integrity. We have real problems with our elections but her unethical behavior only aided the left in avoiding the issues.

    Keep the faith. In the fullness of time the non-metaphorical Kraken shall be released. Epic tentacular damage. It’ll be great.

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  12. Saint Augustine Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    And she shouldn’t be deplatformed. Period.

    Yes.

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  13. MiMac Thatcher
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):
    She didn’t stand up for election integrity- her clown show operation is one of the greatest impediments to getting real reform. Her antics and sleazy PR stunts (claiming she had proof on the courtroom steps but failing to even try proving them in court as in WI) discredited people advancing genuine concerns and policies to improve election integrity. She set back conservative attempts at election reform by, at least, years. She is to election reform what Sid Blumenthal was to journalistic integrity. We have real problems with our elections but her unethical behavior only aided the left in avoiding the issues.

    Keep the faith. In the fullness of time the non-metaphorical Kraken shall be released. Epic tentacular damage. It’ll be great.

    I doubt the kraken gets released by Sydney before the eschaton 

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  14. SkipSul Inactive
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):
    She didn’t stand up for election integrity- her clown show operation is one of the greatest impediments to getting real reform. Her antics and sleazy PR stunts (claiming she had proof on the courtroom steps but failing to even try proving them in court as in WI) discredited people advancing genuine concerns and policies to improve election integrity. She set back conservative attempts at election reform by, at least, years. She is to election reform what Sid Blumenthal was to journalistic integrity. We have real problems with our elections but her unethical behavior only aided the left in avoiding the issues.

    Keep the faith. In the fullness of time the non-metaphorical Kraken shall be released. Epic tentacular damage. It’ll be great.

    I doubt the kraken gets released by Sydney before the eschaton

    Cold calamari goes off rather quickly.

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  15. The Reticulator Member
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Looks like Aweber is one of the bad guys now. They just de-platformed Sidney Powell’s legislative newsletter:

    I finally got my first email response after having signed up for her newsletter. It seems it took a couple of days, but it appears that she’s using the MailChimp service now.  

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  16. MiMac Thatcher
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    if you think the election fraud claims are provable here is more proof you are being played:

    https://www.wionews.com/world/as-trump-raked-in-cash-denying-his-loss-little-went-to-actual-legal-fight-360674

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/01/31/trump-raised-250-million-since-election-to-challenge-outcome-heres-where-most-of-the-money-will-actually-go/?sh=102a9e358824

    maybe Rudy is saving it to settle the Dominion defamation suits

    NB- provable in court I will leave if they are true to history.

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  17. Saint Augustine Member
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    if you think the election fraud claims are provable here is more proof you are being played:

    https://www.wionews.com/world/as-trump-raked-in-cash-denying-his-loss-little-went-to-actual-legal-fight-360674

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/01/31/trump-raised-250-million-since-election-to-challenge-outcome-heres-where-most-of-the-money-will-actually-go/?sh=102a9e358824

    maybe Rudy is saving it to settle the Dominion defamation suits

    NB- provable in court I will leave if they are true to history.

    There’s provable in court on short notice, and then there’s good inductive evidence that it’s true.  (Is that what you mean by “true to history”?)

    There might not be much provable in court on short notice.  (But if there’s not, then there ought to be some substantial objections to Binnall, Davis, and Strensrom.  I have heard of none!)

    But there is plenty of good inductive evidence.  See the following:

    Anyone is, of course, welcome to check my work.  It’s not as bad as checking Professor Phostle’s work; almost any single paragraph can be evaluated on its own terms.

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  18. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    if you think the election fraud claims are provable here is more proof you are being played:

    https://www.wionews.com/world/as-trump-raked-in-cash-denying-his-loss-little-went-to-actual-legal-fight-360674

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/01/31/trump-raised-250-million-since-election-to-challenge-outcome-heres-where-most-of-the-money-will-actually-go/?sh=102a9e358824

    maybe Rudy is saving it to settle the Dominion defamation suits

    NB- provable in court I will leave if they are true to history.

    It’s been proven ten different ways, that’s not in question. Hell, the second they kicked out the poll workers and put up partitions to cover the windows at the polling centers they were guilty of election fraud. Furthermore, the onus is on Biden to prove he won. He can’t, which is why they continue to stonewall audits everywhere, why they destroyed ballots in violation of Federal law, and why they’ve banned anyone from mentioning it and canceled those who’ve continued to. 

    But aside from that, Trump can use the money he raised however he wants, and he doesn’t need to justify it with a NY Times, or Forbes reporter. They’re trying to cancel his new lawyers for daring to defend him against the sham impeachment trial, they’re trying to hamper his ability to communicate with the American people. If he puts every dime into creating his own web servers or a new television network etc…to keep pounding the greatest crime in American history into the national consciousness it will be money well spent, and I’ll pony up even more to see it happen. 

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