There Was No Plan, an Epic Fail

 

Apparently Capitol Police rejected offers of assistance of additional law enforcement help. I listened to a press conference Thursday morning involving the mayor of DC. She said there was going to be an investigation of what happened. That tells me that there was no coordinated plan to protect the city, or federal buildings.

WASHINGTON — Three days before the pro-President Donald Trump riot at the Capitol, the Pentagon asked the U.S Capitol Police if it needed National Guard manpower. And as the mob descended on the building Wednesday, Justice Department leaders reached out to offer up FBI agents. The police turned them down both times, according to a defense official and two people familiar with the matter.

There should have been a meeting with the metro police, and all federal law enforcement agencies to formulate a coordinated plan to set up a perimeter around the Capitol building, as well as a plan for moving officers around the city to other trouble spots.

Justice officials FBI and other agencies began to monitor Hotels, flights and social media for weeks and were expecting massive crowds. Mayor Muriel Bowser had warned of impending violence for weeks, and businesses had closed in anticipation. She requested National Guard help from the Pentagon on Dec. 31, but the Capitol Police turned down the Jan. 3 offer from the Defense Department, according to Kenneth Rapuano, assistant defense secretary for homeland security.

The Justice Department’s offer for FBI support as the protesters grew violent was rejected by the Capitol Police, according to the two people familiar with the matter. They were not authorized to publicly discuss the matter and spoke on condition of anonymity.

Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy said that as the rioting was underway, it became clear that the Capitol Police were overrun. There was no contingency planning done in advance for what forces could do in case of a problem at the Capitol. “They’ve got to ask us, the request has to come to us,” said McCarthy.

Nothing was learned from the incident on January 3. Watching the January 6 incident, it was obvious that there was no plan to prevent violent entry into the Capitol building. Bike racks are not enough to prevent entry into a building. They can be used as weapons against police, or as seen in one video as a battering ram to break through a door.

Once they’re inside you’ve lost the battle. The Capitol perimeter should have been protected by fences at around seven-feet high. Once the fence is assaulted then impact munitions, and gas should be used to force people away from the fence. If you have to retreat then flash bangs, and grenades containing about 40 rubber balls can can be slid across the pavement into the crowd. The second line of defense should be at all entry points, outside the building.

You have to break the collective mindset of the mob by using pain compliance to instill an individual mindset. The individual mindset is; I better get the hell out here before I get hurt.

Rioters will be injured, as will the media; once the police declare an unlawful assembly then everyone must leave. If you want to run with the bulls don’t whine about being gored.

One final comment. The apparent failure to have a coordinated plan may have led to the shooting death of a woman in the Capitol building. Once the plainclothes protection unit for members of Congress, their staff, and building employees became the second line of defense it reveals the epic fail of no plan.

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  1. Bob Thompson Member
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    DonG (Biden is compromised) (View Comment):

    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    There is a plan to make DC a state, right?

    I’m going to stock up on 50 star flags.

    Soon to be symbol of racism (DC and Puerto Rico have POC) and banned by online oligarchs. Everything is a psy-op. Everything is propaganda.

    I actually don’t think there will be more states added.

    I agree because that would entail redistributing the offices of all of the federal government across the states. That in itself will be a stopper. There is a lot more to this issue and the failure to maintain order over the course of this year is a very bad indicator. The federal government should take back administrative control of the District.

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  2. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    DonG (Biden is compromised) (View Comment):

    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    There is a plan to make DC a state, right?

    I’m going to stock up on 50 star flags.

    Soon to be symbol of racism (DC and Puerto Rico have POC) and banned by online oligarchs. Everything is a psy-op. Everything is propaganda.

    I actually don’t think there will be more states added.

    I agree because that would entail redistributing the offices of all of the federal government across the states. That in itself will be a stopper. There is a lot more to this issue and the failure to maintain order over the course of this year is a very bad indicator. The federal government should take back administrative control of the District.

    The federal government should do a lot of things it doesn’t and shouldn’t do a lot of things it does. More of both coming soon.

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  3. Bob W Member
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    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    There is a plan to make DC a state, right?

    I’m going to stock up on 50 star flags.

    And ones with red and white stripes, before they become rainbow stripes. 

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  4. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    DonG (Biden is compromised) (View Comment):

    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    There is a plan to make DC a state, right?

    I’m going to stock up on 50 star flags.

    Soon to be symbol of racism (DC and Puerto Rico have POC) and banned by online oligarchs. Everything is a psy-op. Everything is propaganda.

    I actually don’t think there will be more states added.

    DC is too small to be a state.  Return the land to the states that originally had it.

    has anybody asked Puerto Rico if they want to be a state?  When I was there last a significant amount of its citizens felt differently.  Or does that stuff not matter under the Democrats?

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  5. Doug Watt Member
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    The seven foot fencing is being installed today.

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  6. I Walton Member
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    We don’t know much, but it’s hard not to think we’re being naive.  Who did it benefit?  Who might have planned the incident?  Which groups are accustomed to violence and use it most of the time.  Did we in fact see a hammer and sickle on an arm of a masked kid who broke into the capital?  Do we not know who we’re dealing with.  How many inside folks here have experience with marxist operatives?  

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  7. Misthiocracy got drunk and Member
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    CRD (View Comment):

    @dougwatt, will you please comment on this clip? Thank you! It looks to me as though people were allowed in?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/amuse/status/1347291917290262531

    FYI: That user was “persuaded” by a Twitter employee to “voluntarily” move his political commentary from Twitter to Parler:

    https://parler.com/profile/muse

    The video which he was retweeting is still on on Twitter, however:

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  8. Misthiocracy got drunk and Member
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    For FY2020 the DoD budget was $738B. For that same year, the DoJ budget totaled $29.2B in discretionary spending, 51.1% of which was earmarked for law enforcement. And the Capitol fell in less than 2 hours to a guy dressed up like a drunken Minnesota Vikings fan.

    Now, tell me again about the glories of government.

    This is simply proof that federal law enforcement is underfunded.

    ;-)

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  9. Misthiocracy got drunk and Member
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    I Walton (View Comment):
    Did we in fact see a hammer and sickle on an arm of a masked kid who broke into the capital?

    No we did not.

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  10. Misthiocracy got drunk and Member
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    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    The seven foot fencing is being installed today.

    But Americans been told for years that walls don’t work!

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  11. Bob Thompson Member
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    I Walton (View Comment):

    We don’t know much, but it’s hard not to think we’re being naive. Who did it benefit? Who might have planned the incident? Which groups are accustomed to violence and use it most of the time. Did we in fact see a hammer and sickle on an arm of a masked kid who broke into the capital? Do we not know who we’re dealing with. How many inside folks here have experience with marxist operatives?

    Don’t know who you are referring to as We. I doubt there is much naivety in those participating here. Those I wonder about would be the scheduled objectors in Congress who pulled out, it looks as if they want to be always where they think the power is. They could be wrong.

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  12. Aaron Miller Inactive
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    Misthiocracy got drunk and (View Comment):

    CRD (View Comment):

    @dougwatt, will you please comment on this clip? Thank you! It looks to me as though people were allowed in?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/amuse/status/1347291917290262531

    FYI: That user was “persuaded” by a Twitter employee to “voluntarily” move his political commentary from Twitter to Parler:

    https://parler.com/profile/muse

    The video which he was retweeting is still on on Twitter, however:

    Here is another view. 

    https://www.chron.com/news/nation-world/article/Police-let-mob-in-Capitol-attack-Trump-riot-15853548.php

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  13. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    DonG (Biden is compromised) (View Comment):

    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    It was not an epic fail. It was a Charlottesville type political trap

    Charlottesville is a bit different. The police tried to get the venue changed to a different park. One group had a permit, and the Antifa group did not. The ACLU filed a suit to prevent the venue change. The original site was small and separating the two groups was almost impossible. The judge did not allow the venue change. Needless to say the ACLU and the judge don’t have to clean up the mess.

    Both groups arrived early, and the group that had the permit arrived before the start time on the permit. Both groups arrived in homemade armor. The officer in charge should have ended the whole thing as the permitted group was in the park before the time on the permit.

    There was no plan to deal with either side as they made way into town.

    I was reading an after-action report on this yesterday. Lots of mistakes were made. It seems like they (march people) and police started planning for a small event and were not able to adjust quickly enough to the growth. For example, the police (CPD) bought riot gear for use that day, but never trained with the gear or even tried it on beforehand. The Virginia state police had a big presence, but they arrived too late for coordinating with CPD. The city had a history of high tolerance of allowing 1st Amendment activities without permit, which delayed the decision to change venue (7 days before). Maybe an earlier decision would not have resulted lawsuit. Separating groups was problematic since a specific statue was the focal point of all groups. Both sides really were determined to be at the same spot at the same time.

    Mistakes? Or a setting up for this situation?  An organization that effectively deals with protests on a daily basis this time made a series of failures and mistakes?  Pull the other one.

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  14. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    DonG (Biden is compromised) (View Comment):

    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    There is a plan to make DC a state, right?

    I’m going to stock up on 50 star flags.

    Soon to be symbol of racism (DC and Puerto Rico have POC) and banned by online oligarchs. Everything is a psy-op. Everything is propaganda.

    I actually don’t think there will be more states added.

    I could see the bigger states divided.

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  15. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    The seven foot fencing is being installed today.

    And the Biden administration starts.

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  16. Flicker Coolidge
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    Muleskinner, Weasel Wrangler (View Comment):

    People used to say, “If you fail to plan, you are planning to fail.” Or was that the plan all along?

    Now I don’t really have to read the rest of the comments.  (But I will, of course.)

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  17. Muleskinner, Weasel Wrangler Member
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    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    The seven foot fencing is being installed today.

    How tone deaf are these “elites”?

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  18. Flicker Coolidge
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    Mark Camp (View Comment):

    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    Mark Camp (View Comment):

    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    Mark Camp (View Comment):

    Doug Watt: The failure to have a coordinated plan led to the shooting death of a woman in the Capitol building.

    I was told that the woman was unarmed, in an unarmed group walking up some steps surrounded by Metro police, and gunned down at close range from under cover, and that one of the cops surrounding her signalled a “thumbs-up” to the killer.

    If true, this bothers me.

    Is this your understanding of the facts?

    That is not what happened. I’m waiting until more info comes. I’ve seen one video of a barricaded door. A window next to the door was smashed, and she started to step through the window. Hopefully there will be a transcript of incident that will be made public.

    Thanks, Doug. Could you clarify the rest? Are you saying that

    • she was unarmed,
    • was in an unarmed group that was accompanied by armed officers
    • was shot down in cold blood from behind cover
    • that one of the officers surrounding her gave a “thumbs up” to the killer?

    I didn’t see the video myself, so I am asking you as someone who did, and someone who knows what properly trained cops would and would not do.

    I can read anything I like into video at this point I prefer to wait for the investigation.

    Thanks, Doug. I will not believe what I was told for now.

    I have been looking at the video again, and again, and while I thought (and may still think) that her hands were in a decerebrate positioning, her eyes were half-closed and apparently her lids were fixed, and there was lots of blood on the floor.  But this video shows all that the blood on the floor turned out to be the flag she had draped herself in, and when she was lifted up, there was no blood on the floor.  Also the video at this link shows a concerned protester talking about the incident, but he is reported to be an at least one other anti-fa protest, and he was purportedly released without charges for the rioting.

    I thought from the beginning that it was oddly coincidental that she was reported to be a retired 14-year “high level” intelligence officer with the Air Force.

    Now I’m not so sure that it was actually a killing.  As a member here on  Ricochet, whose profession indicates he should know, said, there are such things as false flags.

    https://www.brighteon.com/e0f91c48-1728-450a-92be-963ab3c166c4

     

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