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If Only We Enabled ‘Right to Try’
Did you know the vaccines were developed in days early in 2020 (Pfizer in January of 2020!)? The rest of the year was spent in regulatory work, some of it purely inane.
All Trump and Congress had to do was incentivize “Right to Try” – allow people to take experimental vaccines at their own risk. If I could have signed away any legal recourse and taken an experimental vaccine, I would have done so happily. Given the opportunity to take the risk of Covid off the table, millions of Americans would have taken that bet, avoiding so much needless fear and all the concomitant destruction.
Freedom is the answer to most questions. If doctors were given full freedom to try HCQ, Ivermectin, Dexamethasone, and countless other options on their patients, we would have put this pandemic to bed months ago. Because, counter to the “official” line repeated ad nauseam, all illnesses have treatment options that can help or hurt the patient. We just have to let people figure it out. Heck, Vitamin D makes a heck of an impression on Covid response – but as others have pointed out, Big Pharma has no profit in Vitamin D, HCQ, Ivermectio, or Dexamethasone.
Hindsight is always 20/20 – and at the end of 2020, we all have it. But there are many of us who have been advocating “Right to Try” forever, back to Milton Friedman’s “barking cat” metaphor to describe the FDA’s willingness to rapidly approve new drugs. The FDA should be relegated from “Veto” to “Recommendation” authority, allowing the free market to solve our medical challenges.
This is the real lesson of Covid: the top-down path advocated by Republicans and Democrats alike, is what led to the most loss of life. The experts have all failed us. But we can still maximize freedom and responsibility, encouraging solutions instead of panic. Each of us is responsible for our own choices, so we should be free to make them.
If only.
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Vaccines, like fossil fuels, are God’s gift to humanity. Doesn’t mean anyone should be forced to take them. We have free will. But, knowing that life is full of tradeoffs, the choice to take the mRNA COVID vaccine seems a pretty easy one. It’s not just the low death rate (which I believe you consistently misrepresent, Carol; for one thing, no one really knows the denominator) that must be balanced against. The sequela that come with COVID can also be quite bad, even if you make it out of ICU alive.
Cancer in cats is hardly a measure. And Bill Gates, while a flawed human being like the rest of us, is not the villain here. The Chinese Communist Party is.
I accept your point #3 as a likely problem. But, I’m going to take @mendel‘s word over yours that the mRNA vaccine is safer than other types. And mRNA immunotherapy has been miraculous in treatment of cancers, like my sister-in-law’s metastatic melanoma.
People are generally very poor at assessing risk. Life is like that. Some people stroke out when they sit up in bed in the morning. Doesn’t mean you should worry every time you sit up in bed. Adverse reactions to vaccines happen on occasion, and long term adverse effects are difficult to tease out from bad luck in life (cancer). But they are hugely beneficial to most of us and a “risk” we’re willing to take. And, yes, it is common for vaccines not to be protective against every mutation of a virus. Treatments are preferred when we can’t be protected with vaccines, and existing, and well-understood drugs like Ivermectin seem ideal.
But, the real fight is going to be against government tyranny in restricting travel and such based on vaccine status, not the vaccine itself.
What other effective vaccines are mRNA?
I keep being told two different things. mRNA is a new vaccine using a new technology that has never been used before. But that it is also proven to be completely safe from decades of history.
Also up to this year I have told stuff like the common cold are coronavirus and there was and could not be a vaccine. But we seem to be able to create a vaccine for a coronavirus within minutes of this coronavirus showing up. Which is it?
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but vaccines using mRNA technology are new, but immunotherapies to treat cancers have been in development for many years and are now coming into regular use for things like melanoma.
There has been about 9 years of work on mRNA vaccine technology-but this is the 1st successful development. One of the reasons OWS succeeded was that the mRNA vaccine technology was nearing maturity. RNA (of which mRNA is one) therapeutics have been in development for personalized cancer vaccines, prophylactic vaccines (as here), for a means of antibody therapy(rather than give lab “grown” monoclonal antibodies) and to induce/inhibit the production/function of proteins/enzymes involved in diseases. Additionally, down the road there are hopes RNA therapy can be used to induce or inhibit the expression of DNA. IIRC the melanoma therapy is still in trials. There are RNA therapies approved for some rare diseases:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7250668/
not exactly light reading
for more on the vaccines
https://horizon-magazine.eu/article/five-things-you-need-know-about-mrna-vaccine-safety.html
I’ve always thought that Fauci is a callous liar. Not that we all aren’t in lesser ways at times. But I thought Fauci was a mediocre liar in a high position.
But yesterday when I read that Fauci told children that he personally went to the north pole and vaccinated Santa Claus, I wondered, Is that bad? And I thought that he lies to children exactly as he lies to us, to adults, to the American people. He was standing right there in support when we were told not to wear masks. We were not only told not to, but given long and reasonable sounding reasons, presented as scientific reasons, not to wear masks.
And then I realized that Fauci patented four parts of the coronavirus, in 2015. Wasn’t that the same year that 0bama cut off all funding for “gain-of-function” research? And isn’t it the same year he side-stepped 0bama’s order and funded Chinese gain of function research on this very same virus? Now one of these patents is for the spike protein (or at least a major part of it) and at least one research paper I’ve read states that this spike protein will be invaluable for vaccine development.
This all certainly looks like Fauci is financially benefiting from the research into the vaccine and the sale of vaccine itself.
What does this mean? It looks like Fauci sponsored the development of the virus and had a financial stake in the subsequent vaccine. And he stresses the draconian measures used to combat the virus, and says that the vaccine is the only answer.
So in short:
Fauci patented the spike protein.
Fauci paid for it to be added to the coronavirus.
Fauci touted the vaccine involving his spike protein as the only answer to the epidemic that he helped to create.
And it appears Fauci, owning the patent, makes money off of every dose of the vaccine that produces this spike protein.
This is truly evil.
Evidence?
These claims have been out there & debunked for a while. The Fed’s might have patents but not Fauci. The problem is the lie gets half way around the world before the truth gets its pants on……
not to mention you can’t patent a naturally occurring compound like the spike protein-
https://www.sciencedocs.com/to-patent-or-not-to-patent-are-natural-products-off-the-table/
I mean are you going to sue the virus for making spike protein w/o a license or better yet sue COVID patients for using your stuff w/o permission? [TIC]
addendum- the source of some of these claims is RFK Jr a noted anti-vaccine activist & well known to make false claims about COVID.
Insulin has been patented, or at least the process for making it. So everyone is in violation of that patent. And at least I know that the word “debunked” has been invoked. Show me the link to the debunking?
I’ve done this before but I’ll do it again.
The patents are listed here.
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And of course you all know that the vaccine sends mRNA into the cell to make the cell produce these very spikes. Do you really think that Fauci isn’t getting paid for his patented spikes?
One: You have no idea of the risks presented by this newly released Pfizer vax happen to be.
As real scientists like to say in the light of such statements:
When an individual pushed out of a forty story building, if they were examined at the twenty story point, it can be shown that is known the results of that push are the mere seriously ruffled up hair and clothes.
Get back to me in two or three years. The cat trial results of the original mRNA vax tell an interesting cautionary tale.
It is almost certain you have assessed this mistakenly. Fauci is very unlikely to own these patents as an individual. Typically when you do research work for a large organization you sign away your rights to profit off of patents as well as any residual income from sales in return for a salary( much to my chagrin)- to quote a federal source:
“The main section of the executive order provides that the government shall obtain all rights to any invention made by an employee if any one of the following conditions applies: the invention is made during working hours; the invention is made using either government facilities, equipment, etc., or is made with the help of another government employee who is on official duty; or the invention relates to the official duties of the inventor.”
being listed as the inventor ISNOT the same as “owning” the patent or the income derived from it.
addendum-insulin isn’t under patent-a) b/c of the ruling I quoted above- which occurred long after the 1920s b) b/c patents are time limited.
@mimac
@rushbabe49
Also nowhere in my writing on this particular discussion of iWe did I mention AMA approving HCQ. On another discussion I did so, after following Rush Limbaugh’s statements of Dec 15th. I thought I could rely on him, but I was wrong.
He was right that the AMA had some members proposing the acceptance of HCQ. Except he didn’t realize the measure went on to be defeated.
This is an important distinction and had I looked into the matter, I would have known about it. But I made the mistake of trusting Rush.
If I hadn’t such respect for Limabugh, I would have immediately considered that should HCQ be put into the equation of “standard of care” then any and every one in the USA who wanted to refuse the vaccine could do so. On account of this:
Yes, you are probably right about the patents. I know others whose manes were on patents but weren’t financially benefiting from them.
But what is this debunking you referred to? Fauci still is acting like he’s getting something other than the nobility of good works out of saying that the lockdowns and/or masks might have to continue into 2022. He has lied, and lied in detail. He stands by as the FDA or CDC or AMA restricts use of HCQ. He pushes shutting down the country while no restricting himself. Physical distancing — particularly 6-foot distancing — is not science. And I remember when it was presented to the public: Birx said that a study showed that a sneeze could travel up to six feet and THAT is where the 6-foot distancing came from. Fauci goes on the Press circuit and makes a lot of proclamations but never addresses the other untoward effects or loss of life or well-being, or the loss of necessary non-covid medical care, and appears to think that this is right.
He appears to be stupid (which he’s not) or a nerdy narrow and deep well of expertise or else he’s being deliberately disingenuous. He has the nation’s ear, and his policies that he touts in the Media are killing this country economically and harming the population, and it certainly seems that he is either a monster (which I may doubt) or there is some other motivation.
You have not addressed that he did violate 0bama’s prohibition on gain-of-function research,which led directly to creating the virus that is now epidemic, and he has exclusively touted vaccines.
The six foot rule is, of course, somewhat arbitrary- as are all discrete numbers in an analog world. The studies are based on droplet propagation and many feel the 6 foot rule isn’t stringent enough-
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/what-is-the-evidence-to-support-the-2-metre-social-distancing-rule-to-reduce-covid-19-transmission/
(https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-six-feet-enough-social-distancing.html). But the 6 foot rule is easy & many would object to a longer distance.
The Obama rule on no gain of function studies lapsed IIRC 4 years ago.
There is no proof that the COVID virus has been altered by gain of function studies-nor is there proof it wasn’t a naturally occurring virus that the Chinese failed to contain or escaped from the lab d/t sheer incompetence- the Wuhan lab had a spotty record & a SARS outbreak occurred in China in the past from an escape from a lab.
yes, Fauci et al seem oblivious to untoward effects of lockdowns-but that list is long & he isn’t even prominent on it since he doesn’t call the shots.
addendum- gain of function moratorium lifted in 2017
Fauci did this five years ago.
China built the new and improved spikes onto the coronavirus. This is denied by the PRC.
And these gain-of-function improvements were included in one of the first Thai papers; it was immediately withdrawn when the changes were found out to be the subject of Fauci’s patents.
Any evidence of this?
This has been known and reported, and denied by many, since February or March. But the question of whether there was natural gain of function or laboratory-induced gain of function is a matter of what you’re willing to believe. The spikes were patented by Fauci et al, about the same time that Fauci started funding China’s research into the SARS coronavirus gain-of-function testing. The spikes have coding that is from HIV, that were spliced in.
I may look for the research later. But you can begin with this:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1.full
Here are the patents, found at site
https://c-vine.com/blog/2020/05/07/follow-the-money-fauci-holds-4-covid-19-related-patents/
The four patents on which Fauci is named as an inventor are the following:
Here is the site that lists the patents, including dates and patent holders (cut and paste the name of the patent from the first list here into the search bar of the second site to see the patent info:
https://patents.justia.com/search?q=Use+of+antagonists+of+the+Interaction+Between+HIV+GP120+and+A4B7+Integrin
And here is another site with the details about the virus, if you want to wade through it:
https://johnbwellsnews.com/indian-scientists-discover-coronavirus-engineered-with-hiv-aids-like-insertions/
The purpose of the above is not to find a money trail from the patents to Fauci but to show that the spikes were known from Fauci’s HIV work and patented by him et al in 2015 the same year (iirc) that Fauci disobeyed 0bama’s restrictions on gain-of-function research and, instead, started funding China to do coronavirus gain of function research.
Furthermore the first study I sited in #46 was regarding the Thai research from early 2020 that was immediately retracted when it was found that the questionable spike proteins they found in the novel SARS virus were already patented by Fauci.
The patents relate to his work on HIV for which he is famous. Conspiracy mongering run amok.
And it appears that you and the MSM are mongering the conspiracies. The patented HIV proteins were inserted into the SARS virus. That’s not conspiracy, that’s as close to a fact as you can get.
Your epistemology confuses me as always. Why is one (retracted) Indian study automatically correct? It might be correct. But you and I are such genetic neophytes, that we wouldn’t be able to tell if study is BS or not. Both of us are stuck with expert opinion that isn’t really all that expert because of the newness of Covid 19.
Both you and CarolJoy point to one anomalous study among hundreds and say it is a correct one. Why should I believe anyone believe that one study?
That may be because we don’t believe (I mustn’t speak for CarolJoy, she has her own views) the Official Narrative. And this could be because the official narrative makes no sense. And this could be because there is no way for it to be made to make sense. And could be why there is such censorship on google, youtube, twitter and facebook of the any questioning at all of the covid pandemic or the vaccine. there are true believers and there are skeptics and millions of people in between. We all take what we’ve experienced all our lives and try to make sense out of varying new experiences. Sometimes the least voice is the correct one.
The problem with original mRNA vaccine for a corona illness was not that the cats got cancer. The problem was that the initial vaccine made them more vulnerable to a weaker form of corona virus. They were infected with that weaker virus and they died. Due to that, this original vaccine was no longer explored.
Also vaccines that carry known low risks against a serious killing infection are a benefit. If you talk about that specific category of vaccines, I would agree with you on that. I am not against vaccines that make sense. I do look at all medical procedures from a risk vs benefit stand point.
To take a vaccine after only a few short months – less than 3 months – of research and study, then any thinking person must consider the newest mRNA vaccine to fall in the category of having an unknown risk factor.
Taking this vaccine would make sense only if COVID carried a 3.4% fatality rate as the Bill Gates protege Ferguson of Imperial College had as his talking point. Given there are also at least 5 demonstrable remedies for the infection, all of which are much cheaper than a $ 400 a jab vaccine, if examining this vax issue from risk vs benefit consideration, the only way it makes sense to get jabbed is if you have stock in the Big Pharma companies making it, so your portfolio will help with the Bell’s palsy, MS, outright paralysis, or other possible catastrophic injuries that might arise.
Also B Gates is in bed with Chinese. He is such a Globalist I do not consider him an American.
I don’t remember Mendel saying that mRNA vaccines were safer than vaccines made from actual virus, or safe at all. I remember him writing, “The technology has yielded encouraging results, but a successful mRNA vaccine has never been created before, which presents new risks.”
This was a frank and rankly disconcerting comment.
I just find it weird that the same people who minimize the severity of the pandemic maximize the risks of the vaccine…..
as in there is no risks of an increase in virulence in a virus allowed to remain endemic in humans, but there a huge risks to a vaccine
That’s because they are two different things. The pandemic is relatively old and fairly well-known. The vaccine is new, unproven by past usage, and unproven specifically in this case, and potentially unsafe.
Also the government and big business didn’t mandate that you get covid, but they are mandating through pressures such as not being able to work, or travel, or enter shops, that you get a vaccine.
And this is incredible when there are at least two inexpensive prophylactic treatments, which have been ignored or outright banned.
And speaking of HCQ,
Unexplained explosion and fire destroy world’s second largest pharmaceutical factory producing precursors for hydroxychloroquine
By Thomas Lifson
Prepare for supplies to tighten for the cheap, effective therapeutic treatment for early stage Covid-19 infection, hydroxychloroquine (HCQ). Just as the medical establishment in the US is relaxing its absurd and lethal suppression of the cheap, generic drug, following President Trump’s endorsement of it early in the pandemic, HCQ’s continued availability may suffer. The world’s second largest pharmaceutical facility producing the precursors for HCQ has been destroyed by an explosion and fire.
I still don’t know what’s going on. That source links to what I believe is a document of the resolution to be voted on, not the results of the vote.
I guess if the resolution was not approved Snopes would make a point of telling us. But I’d prefer more confirmation than that.
Yes, it’s hard to keep up with this. using “rescind” and “retract” in an article about rescinding a retraction of a previous guideline has made this hard to answer. I’ve read a number of articles dated Dec 15 & 16 that said the guideline was retracted and two articles dated Dec 16 that said it wasn’t. I don’t know but I suppose it wasn’t rescinded for the US.
The article did say, “Supplies may be tight, as the SCI Pharmtech had already expanded production and sales of HCQ APIs to meet growing demand”
And from Taipei Times:
So worldwide demand appears to be up significantly, despite a guideline against its use in the US. And there is a push to get the guideline rescinded.
And it is currently being prescribed in the US by US doctors for covid per AmericasFrontlineDoctors,com. It interestingly proscribed almost exclusively only in Europe and the English speaking world.
Okay name five people you know who died. Which might have been easy to do if this infection held to the 3.4% talking point Ferguson had foisted on the world.
But not at this low rate of death. At this fatality rate, it’s hard to name a single person. I can name only one person I know who has died – a friend’s father in TN who was a terminal lung cancer patient. He died some 75 days earlier than if he had not gotten COVID.
A comparison: just the other day, the SF Chronicle, which has been insistent on the virility and horrendous nature of COVID had another article about all the people who OD’ed in San Francisco. Over 620 people died of OD’s in the same time period that 173 people died of COVID. (IIRC, that time period was Feb thru Dec 1st.) That 173 people is a fatality rate of 0.03% of the population of San Francisco.
The only reason this was called a pandemic to begin with is this one: after Bill Gates and The Rockefeller Foundation’s plans to vaccinate everyone in the USA floundered during the 2009 pandemic, as not enough people were affected to have the 2009 flu be considered a pandemic, Bill Gates, number 2 donor at The World Health Org saw to it that WHO re-defined the term “pandemic.”
The current definition of pandemic at The WHO right now is any new disease that emerges suddenly in many countries across the globe.
Anyway at least some people are waking up. Ted Cruz now being one of them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClpQPmo6qPk