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Mitt Romney Would Have Conceded By Now
Don’t get me wrong, I like the nice Senator from Utah. Unlike most Republicans, I always have and always will. He’s so nice. He means well.
That’s why he lost.
When he was accused of tying up the family dog on the roof, do you remember him reacting? I don’t.
With every election I can remember, Democrats have shown that they will do anything, say anything, to get their way.
Over the last four years, that shamelessness went into overdrive. Brett Kavanaugh is a gang rapist… Whatever it takes to keep him off the Supreme Court. The President is controlled by Russians, has stated that he doesn’t care about our servicemen, that he likes to take a bath in the urine of others, and don’t forget the time he tried to kill a bunch of fish in a koi pond.
They will say and do anything (even go through pointless and theatrical impeachment hearings) in order to try to subvert him. All it’s done is radicalize his base, and even push people (like me) into it. I now realize that there is no trusting, no working with the President’s opponents. They don’t want us and they don’t think they need us. Well, welcome to a very close 2020 election, and you’d like President Trump to go quietly into the night. Despite the clear irregularities and funny business happening in multiple states, they’d like us to “put country first” and accept any and all results at face value.
Nope.
Democrats torched any trust, any willingness to cooperate during the last four years. You reap what you sow.
The President won’t go quietly into the night. He will force a recount and force his lawyers into every state on the margins. And he should, it’s why he was elected. Unlike Mitt Romney and the batch of “nice” Republicans that came before him, the President fights and wins. He wins by playing by the rules they made.
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Which is why he won. I fondly remember President Romney.
Romney is why President Harris is going to be a wild success. He is an utterly spineless go-along-to-get-along Republican turncoat. For all the opprobrium he faced when he ran again The One, he is a Democrats wet dream for his utter spinelessness. He must have a fantastically strong core to be able to walk upright without a spine.
First, I don’t believe that Romney would have conceded by now. With all due respect, this is a meme that Trumpists bray all the time, only Trump fights, every Republican before Trump was a [weakling], ignoring McCain’s POW experience and Ike being Supreme Commander in Europe. Trump is reckless, not brave. Trump is acting like a cornered animal, hoping to stave off the Manhattan District Attorney and New York’s Attorney General. Nor would have McCain, W., Dole, H.W., Reagan, Ford, Nixon, Goldwater, Ike, T.R. or Lincoln given up by this point.
Second, I believe that Romney, McCain, W., Dole, H.W., Reagan, Ford, Nixon, Goldwater, Ike, T.R. or Lincoln would have spoken with far more sobriety than Trump did. If this goes to the Courts, all of Trump’s nigh-incoherent and wild ramblings will be thrown back at Trump’s lawyers.
Third, whether you like or dislike lawyers and judges, America has a 230 year tradition of judicial independence. The members of the judiciary have their own pride, and the three Trump Justices bridle at the suggestion that they are merely Trump’s errand boys or girl. One remembers the 8-0 beat down Nixon got over his tapes, and the unanimous ruling in Brown v. Board of Education. Threatening Justices or the judiciary is another Trumpian blunder.
Yeah No. 2012 was a long time ago, and completely ignores how online culture and its various controversies has shaped the 2020 zeitgeist. Romney doesn’t expand the party like Trump does and is blown out 60/40.
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Personal attack redacted.It’s not a meme. Get your word definitions straight, it’s a point. It’s a report. It’s a strongly held belief. Based on evidence.
Mc Cain sure was a fighter – against anything conservative! He was a fighter when it came to foreign civil wars, using other people’s sons.
But he rarely fought Democrats. And he never fought the media. He’s was political coward and rank opportunist. He also told bald-faced lies.
Do judges let you make such sloppy conflation in court?
No one is saying McCain was a “weakling” as a man. They are saying for whatever reason ( his own agenda?) he would not fight Democrats.
Between Trump and Romney, which of those two men had the word “President” before their name?
I agree with all your points but that last bit was uncalled for.
Romney held the suburbs, Trump lost them. Romney won among the higher educated, Trump lost.
Romney was not beaten 60/40. Romney was beaten 51% to 47%.
After the California votes are counted, Biden will have beaten Trump by about 6 million votes, more than the 5 million votes that Romney lost by.
Finally, Romney lost to an incumbent President; Trump is losing as an incumbent president, joining H.W., Carter and Hoover as the only the fourth incumbent elected president to be rejected four years later.
How quickly do we forget Grover Cleveland.
I think he meant voting precinct.
Excuse me. Are you saying Romney would have won this election? If Romney has such a strong appeal, why didn’t he win when he had the chance? What a rank statement.
Really, Gary? What happened to John Adams, John Quincy Adams, Martin Van Buren, William Howard Taft, and Grover “The Comeback Kid” Cleveland? History did not begin the day you born.
Gary, you are right about the popular vote. All that means is that Romney got more votes in places like California where it didn’t matter. Romney faired much worse than Trump in battleground states like Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Romney essentially had no chance in these states, and got crushed in the electoral college 332-206.
That’s the difference between someone who knows how to win and someone who doesn’t. The Romney approach was never going to succeed.
I won’t be voting for anyone named Trump. Ever.
Opps! In the last century. My bad. Trump will be only the fourth incumbent elected president to be rejected four years later in the last century.
I guess John Adams and John Quincy Adams are chopped liver.
I didn’t know that the election was certified.
Even if you add that in it doesn’t mean all that much. If he did, in fact lose legitimately (and I’m skeptical), that’s a 20% rate per century.
Before the Civil War, several presidents were ousted by their own party in convention, mostly over the question of eliminating or preserving slavery.
For anyone who thinks a Biden presidency is going to save the country, Antifa and BLM have already changed their tack. Last night in Denver the lead banner was “Abolish Fascism and the Liberalism that Enables it.” Enjoy your new country.
You are correct. It has not yet been certified. Trump would need to win in AZ, GA, NC and PA to prevent that from happening. It could happen. It could also snow in Phoenix today.
This is something Trump understands about the left that many on the right just can’t seem to get. The hard left only has tactical allies; anybody not with the program is ultimately someone who must either get onboard or be destroyed. This is why moderates are increasingly rare in the Democrat party. They were only tolerated as a means to an end.
Meeting the left halfway as a sign of good will is taken as an indication of weakness that only emboldens them. Biden was at best a useful fool for the hard left to defeat Trump; if elected, he will either get with the program or face the same riots that Trump did, at least. Probably there is a plan in place to have him removed if elected.
You can look forward to voting in many future elections once you’ve passed from this mortal coil on the Democrat ticket.
That’s a knee slapper!
That’s unbelievably brazen.
Hear, hear!
Let’s count every legal ballot. I think everyone, left, right, and center, should agree that that’s the right thing to do.
Take your time. We’ll wait. Be thorough. And convict anyone who participated in fraud.
Excuse me, but we Trump supporters articulate our position . . .
After I bought my house in West Allis in the mid-90s, I periodically received medicare bills/statements for someone at my address. I knew enough about the people I bought the house from to know it wasn’t their family name (and that they weren’t old enough to use medicare). After some months I called the local medicare office to report potential fraud. The only thing the person on the phone would tell me was that I could get in trouble for opening mail that wasn’t addressed to me and I shouldn’t be reading these statements.
Then I guess that explains how he won.
Which party is it that keeps warning the Supreme Court not to go against them, or they’ll pack it?
I’ve been wanting someone to say this. Working from lists of voters from our town hall, I saw the same thing. The lists are never accurate.
Because of in-person voting, there has never been much pressure to keep those lists up to date. These are different departments within town governments–taxes and assessments are behind one door, beach and dump stickers behind another, vital statistics (births and deaths) behind yet another, and so on.
We assume towns have some fully synched databases for their residents. Thank goodness, no such singular databases exist.
Of course, with all of this attention to everyone’s local government, there will be soon. Which is sad, frankly. Hurries us all to a life ruled by the big tech companies.
Romney loses the suburubs worse than trump in 2020.
Its simple. Millennials are starting to hit midcareer and are moving into the suburbs and have hated you since middle school. And they are moving into suburbs of traditional redstates because thats where the jobs are.
It has nothing to with Trump and everything to do with Bush; and to the extent that policy matters, health care.
Time is a thing. Its not about the Suburbs, its about the people who live in the Suburbs, and those people are different now than were 8-10 years ago.
There is one person responsible for the continued viability of the Republican Party. Milo.