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It seems that the governor/dictators of New York and California this morning have indicated that they will question the safety of any vaccine for the Wuhan coronavirus that is approved, and they will require State approval before the vaccine may be given to their citizens subjects.

Trump Derangement Syndrome now governs whether any new vaccine will be approved in New York and California. I am waiting for the rest of the blue states to do the same. The states above say they are worried about the politicization of the vaccine, when they are the ones doing it! They are stating that they will potentially harm their own citizens, especially the elderly who might most benefit from a vaccine, in order to deny President Trump some sort of “victory.” This is evil.

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  1. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… Coolidge

    While it’s frequently considered a right-wing thing, liberals always were the original anti-vaxxers. The state with the highest rate of regularly prescribed vaccinations? Mississippi. That hotbed of leftism.

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    • October 21, 2020, at 11:22 AM PDT
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  2. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… Coolidge

    Anyway, I consider this completely irresponsible behavior by the governors of CA and NY. In their efforts to delegitimize the President, they delegitimize modern medicine. They delegitimize SCIENCE! (That thing they claim to effing love.) They will be responsible for more deaths, they’ll blame the President, and the media will give them a tongue bath for it.

    The states above say THEY are worried about politicization of the vaccine, when they are the ones doing it!

    Yep. It’s always projection with these people.

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    • October 21, 2020, at 11:23 AM PDT
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  3. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge

    I will not take any drug that is cleared by Democrats. They are regularly demonstrated and stated how much they hate Trump voters and wish them dead. Why would I take any drug by a people that want me and mine dead?

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    • October 21, 2020, at 11:28 AM PDT
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  4. MWD B612 "Dawg" Member

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):
    Anyway, I consider this completely irresponsible behavior by the governors of CA and NY.

    Let’s not leave out VP/President-in-Waiting wannabe Kamala Harris, who said she wouldn’t take the “Trump vaccine.”

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    • October 21, 2020, at 11:35 AM PDT
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  5. Ray Kujawa Coolidge

    MWD B612 "Dawg" (View Comment):
    Let’s not leave out VP/President-in-Waiting wannabe Kamala Harris, who said she wouldn’t take the “Trump vaccine.”

    Yes, but Kamala said in the VP debate she would defer to Dr. Fauci. I don’t see any reason for Dr. Fauci to hold a different position than Trump on this subject. Kamala might have talked herself into a corner here.

    Edit: Oh, except as a resident of CA, Newsome can give her some cover with the recent pronouncement.

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    • October 21, 2020, at 12:01 PM PDT
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  6. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… Coolidge

    MWD B612 "Dawg" (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):
    Anyway, I consider this completely irresponsible behavior by the governors of CA and NY.

    Let’s not leave out VP/President-in-Waiting wannabe Kamala Harris, who said she wouldn’t take the “Trump vaccine.”

    Biden said the same thing during the debate.

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    • October 21, 2020, at 12:22 PM PDT
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  7. Stad Coolidge

    RushBabe49: It seems that the governor/dictators of New York and California this morning have indicated that they will question the safety of any vaccine for the Wuhan Coronavirus that is approved, and they will require State approval before the vaccine may be given to their citizens subjects.

    My guess is they will deny approval, and governors of other states will follow. There has to be a limit on emergency powers and what constitutes an emergency.

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    • October 21, 2020, at 12:33 PM PDT
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  8. Vance Richards Member
    Vance RichardsJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    You know, it is not like Doctor Donald is playing around with test tubes in the Oval Office. Any vaccine that comes out while Trump is president is not really a “Trump vaccine.” Actual medical professionals will be the ones designing and testing it. So, saying it you won’t take it out of spite, like Harris did, is stupid.

    That said, I would rather wait a few months or years to see if they get any unexpected side-effects before I get the shot, but that is not due to any political reasons.

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    • October 21, 2020, at 1:10 PM PDT
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  9. Goldgeller Member

    The vaccine trutherism is just wrong. No matter how lawyerly they make their statements most people will hear what they are intending to convey: Trump and the vaccines are bad and scary and you should wait. 

    This is beyond irresponsible and frankly, it is shameful. Orange-Man-Badding life saving interventions is basically irrational. The Trump admin also produced the flu vaccine for this year. The Trump admin urges you to take the MMR vaccine this year. 

    I get wanting Trump out of office (I’d keep him in office) but this is a level of OMB I wouldn’t have guessed we’d see.

    Party of Science! 

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    • October 21, 2020, at 1:46 PM PDT
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  10. Flicker Coolidge

    Goldgeller (View Comment):

    The vaccine trutherism is just wrong. No matter how lawyerly they make their statements most people will hear what they are intending to convey: Trump and the vaccines are bad and scary and you should wait.

    This is beyond irresponsible and frankly, it is shameful. Orange-Man-Badding life saving interventions is basically irrational. The Trump admin also produced the flu vaccine for this year. The Trump admin urges you to take the MMR vaccine this year.

    I get wanting Trump out of office (I’d keep him in office) but this is a level of OMB I wouldn’t have guessed we’d see.

    Party of Science!

    Oh!!! I’ve been reading OMB as Office of Management and Budget, and I’ve been struggling to get the point. And I just now got it!

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    • October 21, 2020, at 2:56 PM PDT
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  11. Limestone Cowboy Coolidge
    Limestone CowboyJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Great opportunities for savvy entrepreneurs to establish “Safe Injection Sites” in blue states, and to distribute the free clean hypodermic needles (already supplied to illegal drug users in some blue cities.) Except instead of fentanyl, you’d get a COVID vaccination.

    Accompanied by lots of messaging like “my body, my choice”, and lots of talk about unsafe back-alley abortions vaccinations.

    Or better yet, offer charter busses to vaccination clinics just over the state line.

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    • October 21, 2020, at 3:19 PM PDT
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  12. RushBabe49 Thatcher
    RushBabe49

    I fully intend to get whichever vaccine is approved first. Then I will abandon all mask wearing, everywhere I am. 

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    • October 21, 2020, at 3:25 PM PDT
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  13. Stina Member

    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    You know, it is not like Doctor Donald is playing around with test tubes in the Oval Office. Any vaccine that comes out while Trump is president is not really a “Trump vaccine.” Actual medical professionals will be the ones designing and testing it. So, saying it you won’t take it out of spite, like Harris did, is stupid.

    That said, I would rather wait a few months or years to see if they get any unexpected side-effects before I get the shot, but that is not due to any political reasons.

    This is where I am. And I’m so pleased it is one area that I can clearly point to as not being partisan.

    I don’t think my other positions are, either, but the way sanity has become politicized, I fear it would be hard to prove.

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    • October 21, 2020, at 4:36 PM PDT
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  14. Sisyphus Coolidge
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    RushBabe49:

    It seems that the governor/dictators of New York and California this morning have indicated that they will question the safety of any vaccine for the Wuhan Coronavirus that is approved, and they will require State approval before the vaccine may be given to their citizens subjects.

    It’s a little early, but it is encouraging to see them finally concede the election. Guess those rally crowdlets for Basement Biden are really chipping away at the enthusiasm.

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    • October 21, 2020, at 6:11 PM PDT
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  15. Suspira Member

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    RushBabe49:

    It seems that the governor/dictators of New York and California this morning have indicated that they will question the safety of any vaccine for the Wuhan Coronavirus that is approved, and they will require State approval before the vaccine may be given to their citizens subjects.

    It’s a little early, but it is encouraging to see them finally concede the election. Guess those rally crowdlets for Basement Biden are really chipping away at the enthusiasm.

    I really don’t understand this. Biden is ahead in almost all the polls—commandingly, in some of them. There is no possibility that a vaccine will appear before November 3. I doubt there will be one before 2021. So, guess what? It will likely be the Biden vaccine. 

    Are they saying all the work done prior to Dawn of the Democratic Future will be tossed? Will those researchers be tainted permanently or may they work out their guilt by taking part in the Biden vaccine?

    And will the New and Improved Biden Healthcare Regime offer mental health benefits by the bushel for all these lunatics of the left?

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    • October 22, 2020, at 11:08 AM PDT
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  16. DonG (Biden is compromised) Coolidge

    RushBabe49: It seems that the governor/dictators of New York and California this morning have indicated that they will question the safety of any vaccine for the Wuhan coronavirus that is approved, and they will require State approval before the vaccine may be given to their citizens subjects.

    This says more about the “subjects” in those states, than it does about those governors. It also tells us that a vaccine is not important to most people, because most people don’t care that much about Wuhan Flu. People (Lefty women anyway) say they care and say they are scared, but if they aren’t fighting to be vaccinated, then they really don’t care.

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    • October 22, 2020, at 11:20 AM PDT
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  17. Goldgeller Member

    Suspira (View Comment):

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    RushBabe49:

    It seems that the governor/dictators of New York and California this morning have indicated that they will question the safety of any vaccine for the Wuhan Coronavirus that is approved, and they will require State approval before the vaccine may be given to their citizens subjects.

    It’s a little early, but it is encouraging to see them finally concede the election. Guess those rally crowdlets for Basement Biden are really chipping away at the enthusiasm.

    I really don’t understand this. Biden is ahead in almost all the polls—commandingly, in some of them. There is no possibility that a vaccine will appear before November 3. I doubt there will be one before 2021. So, guess what? It will likely be the Biden vaccine.

    Are they saying all the work done prior to Dawn of the Democratic Future will be tossed? Will those researchers be tainted permanently or may they work out their guilt by taking part in the Biden vaccine?

    And will the New and Improved Biden Healthcare Regime offer mental health benefits by the bushel for all these lunatics of the left?

    What Trumped pulled off was something of an organizational and bureaucratic super-success story. He cut some of the most ridiculous red tape in the gov’t and created a system that would speed up the development of promising vaccines while ensuring their availability by using careful but aggressive metrics. This is called governance and taking the virus seriously. They said Trump couldn’t and didn’t do either. So they have to basically shoot down a major governing feat of his. It’s the narrative of “nothing Trump can do is right.” Biden will happily scare people away from life-saving treatments if he can pull a few pp of the vote in a swing state. 

    But as you say, it will probably benefit Biden’s admin to use vaccines developed under Trump, but the well is being poisoned and I don’t think you can flip the switch of “be afraid of the vaccine it’s rushed” off and on. What Biden, Harris, and Cuomo are doing is short sighted and destructive to the health of the nation. 

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    • October 22, 2020, at 11:49 AM PDT
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  18. Flicker Coolidge

    Goldgeller (View Comment):
    But as you say, it will probably benefit Biden’s admin to use vaccines developed under Trump, but the well is being poisoned and I don’t think you can flip the switch of “be afraid of the vaccine it’s rushed” off and on.

    I’m not so sure that people give anything that much thought anymore. It’s possible that the most irrationally fearful will grasp at any Biden vaccine (produced through Trump’s exertions) in an irrationally fearful way as well.

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    • October 22, 2020, at 1:08 PM PDT
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  19. Goldgeller Member

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Goldgeller (View Comment):
    But as you say, it will probably benefit Biden’s admin to use vaccines developed under Trump, but the well is being poisoned and I don’t think you can flip the switch of “be afraid of the vaccine it’s rushed” off and on.

    I’m not so sure that people give anything that much thought anymore. It’s possible that the most irrationally fearful will grasp at any Biden vaccine (produced through Trump’s exertions) in an irrationally fearful way as well.

    It is certainly possible! My own feeling is more that people dislike Trump, more than they “like” Biden but it is definitely possible. 

    I’m seeing on Twitter that Remdesivir just got FDA approval. So we are about to find out in real time. This could make for an interesting dynamic at the debate since Biden was fear-mongering about the virus and Trump’s plan was always to unleash the power of the private-sector to beat this thing. 

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    • October 22, 2020, at 1:24 PM PDT
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  20. Weeping Member

    Goldgeller (View Comment):
    But as you say, it will probably benefit Biden’s admin to use vaccines developed under Trump, but the well is being poisoned and I don’t think you can flip the switch of “be afraid of the vaccine it’s rushed” off and on. What Biden, Harris, and Cuomo are doing is short sighted and destructive to the health of the nation. 

    Just like you can’t turn the fear that’s been perpetuated for the last few months off and on. Flipping that switch on was short-sighted and destructive as well.

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    • October 22, 2020, at 5:51 PM PDT
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  21. BastiatJunior Member

    What right does any adult have to prevent another adult from taking a potentially life saving medication? That’s a question I had previously reserved for the FDA.

     

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    • October 23, 2020, at 6:46 AM PDT
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