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A recent report from the British government has found that deaths in hospitals and care homes are now running below the five-year average despite the surge in COVID “cases.” However, deaths in private homes are up 30% and most of that is not COVID related.

Is this is the first clear indication of what many have predicted for some time: the policies to combat COVID-19 have created circumstances and conditions that will ultimately kill more people outright and reduce more net life-years than did COVID-19? Delayed medical treatments, isolation, fear, job loss, stress, increased substance abuse, and depression were predictable consequences of an extended disruption.

Mentally disturbed people continue to blame Trump for every COVID death in the USA. Sane people with arithmetic skills now know that nothing that any national or US state government has attempted has made much of a difference in halting the spread of the virus. However, the cause and effect link between lockdowns/shutdowns/closings and a large array of adverse outcomes is going to be far easier to demonstrate for a long time.

We are told we have been merely following: The Science while the actual scientific practice of examining empirical data is screaming out the truth that we have made incredibly, unconscionably bad policy choices that will cost us far more lives than any we allegedly saved.

In some states, the average age of a COVID-related fatality victim is higher than the average expected lifespan age. Instead of circling the PPE wagons around the elderly and vulnerable while otherwise living normally, we decided instead to cause widespread business failures, educational disruption, economic loss in the trillions, along with large-scale unemployment all while wearing non-functional masks. This was our response to COVID and we called it “science.”

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  1. CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker Coolidge

    We know from surveys of babies in orphanages that for a human being to thrive, it is necessary to interact with other humans.

    Food and water, TV and internet, are not enough for many of us. Add into the mix the fact that so many have seen their dreams shattered – and their incomes taken from them almost overnight – through no fault of their own, and it is easy to see that people are not surviving the COVID restrictions.

    I just read about a young man in the restaurant business whose car suddenly yet gently and slowly traversed the yellow line to slam into the front of a Mack truck. This is exactly what someone does when they want the suicide to be ruled an accidental death. This designation is important to ensure the family with several kids is going to come into the life insurance monies.

    Like Great Britain, California has dictatorial policies that are killing the restaurant and hospitality businesses. With those businesses dying, people die too. This is not going to end well at all, except for the architects of certain evil yet well conceived polices whose details are sometimes leaked to various people in the public.

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    • October 21, 2020, at 12:00 PM PDT
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  2. CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker Coolidge

    Critics of the monetization of patient care are aware that we humans are now nothing more than bags of flesh and blood who are to be filled up with vaccines and unnecessary medicines while being given scant opportunities to even discuss our real health needs with health practitioners totally get this reality:

    “We are told we have been merely following The Science while the actual scientific practice of examining empirical data is screaming out the truth that we have made incredibly, unconscionably bad policy choices that will cost us far more lives than any we allegedly saved.”

    The gradual shifting of health policy from real science to corporate-controlled science ate away at so many aspects of health care that now we average citizens are numb with fear. We are frightened and perplexed watching as our officials in industrialized nations basically forbid the remedies for an illness which is not a problem in nations where HCQ is available over the counter.

    Our fear is not lessened when we realize that in the USA, the status of non-distribution and non-approval of HCQ has been induced because of one and only one factor: language inside a US Civil Code provision that there can be no mandates on a Fed level for any vaccine where there is an effective and available remedy other than vaccination.

    If someone had told me in 1985 what Health Care in California would be like by 2010, I would not have believed them. Rather, I would have believed that each and every doctor and nurse who had been trained in health matters would have come to the fore and opposed all the many changes to the overall health model, such that people wait for a long time for an appointment, then are allowed a scant 6 to 8 minutes with a doctor, are denied pain meds, and when in the hospital no longer are visited by their own doctors – all these things were changes I would have thought our doctors and nurses would oppose.

    Instead at least in California and in certain hospitals in New York City, the older health professionals got out before they were forced into killing their patients, while the less experienced and often newly immigrated health practitioners took over. They were young and had so much med school debt and needed to have a job to feed themselves and their families, so they shut up about the takeover of health care and science by Big Pharmaceuticals and Big Corporate Medicine. Keeping their visa current was also a consideration. (It is also possible that they really never knew about such things as Koch’s Principles, the importance of having one’s personal physician oversee one’s stay in a hospital, why having more than a 7 minute clinic visit is necessary, the studies showing that no sick individual should ever be vaccinated, etc.)

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    • October 21, 2020, at 12:17 PM PDT
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  3. MarciN Member

    CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker (View Comment):
    language inside a US Civil Code provision that there can be no mandates on a Fed level for any vaccine where there is an effective and available remedy other than vaccination.

    I’ll bet the Trump administration has removed or suspended that regulation because they are pursuing treatments as aggressively as vaccines. Trump himself has been excited about the positive results from his being given remdesivir. 

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    • October 21, 2020, at 1:28 PM PDT
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  4. CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker Coolidge

    MarciN (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker (View Comment):
    language inside a US Civil Code provision that there can be no mandates on a Fed level for any vaccine where there is an effective and available remedy other than vaccination.

    I’ll bet the Trump administration has removed or suspended that regulation because they are pursuing treatments as aggressively as vaccines. Trump himself has been excited about the positive results from his being given remdesivir.

    I agree.

    If Trump has not executive ordered his way around that provision, then I am sure Congress will undo that regulation. Nothing must stand in the way of Bill Gates and his very well planned out “Coming decade of the vaccines.” (Words in quotes are his.)

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    • October 21, 2020, at 2:41 PM PDT
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  5. Sisyphus Coolidge
    SisyphusJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker (View Comment):
    If Trump has not executive ordered his way around that provision, then I am sure Congress will undo that regulation. Nothing must stand in the way of Bill Gates and his very well planned out “Coming decade of the vaccines.” (Words in quotes are his.)

    Gates will be the one to save us even if he must kill every last one of us to do so. Phenomenal megalomania.

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    • October 21, 2020, at 6:32 PM PDT
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  6. Randy Webster Member

    CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker (View Comment):
    This is exactly what someone does when they want the suicide to be ruled an accidental death.

    His death was probably listed as a COVID-19 death. And, in a sense, it was.

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    • October 22, 2020, at 3:00 AM PDT
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  7. James Gawron Thatcher
    James GawronJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Old Bathos: Delayed medical treatments, isolation, fear, job loss, stress, increased substance abuse, and depression were predictable consequences of an extended disruption.

    Old Bathos:

    We are told we have been merely following: The Science while the actual scientific practice of examining empirical data is screaming out the truth that we have made incredibly, unconscionably bad policy choices that will cost us far more lives than any we allegedly saved.

    In some states, the average age of a COVID-related fatality victim is higher than the average expected lifespan age. Instead of circling the PPE wagons around the elderly and vulnerable while otherwise living normally, we decided instead to cause widespread business failures, educational disruption, economic loss in the trillions, along with large-scale unemployment all while wearing non-functional masks. This was our response to COVID and we called it “science.”

    OldB,

    This is so true it is silently screaming for the light of day. Our pathetic woke media is suppressing the truth massively. Dr. Atlas has been attacked to try to silence or at least throw doubt. Everything you (and Atlas) are talking about is easily confirmed by insurance company statistics readily available. The insurance companies’ profit margin relies on these very numbers. They are not generated for a political effect like our lefty pseudo-intelligencia is always doing.

    Maybe we should start screaming about how many people are dying from the lunatic lockdown policy. Of course, the question is always can we shout loud enough to make it past the lefty disinformation. We can try.

    Regards,

    Jim

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    • October 22, 2020, at 9:14 AM PDT
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  8. DonG (Biden is compromised) Coolidge

    From Federalist article:

    Attempts have been made to pull these diverse causalities into one model. A group of South African actuaries advised their government that a lockdown would cost 29 lives for every one life saved from the virus. A U.K. government study estimated more conservatively that the ratio would be four-to-one — with lockdowns causing 200,000 fatalities while saving only 50,000 people from death by COVID-19.

    29 to 1.

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    • October 22, 2020, at 11:36 AM PDT
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  9. James Gawron Thatcher
    James GawronJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    DonG (skeptic) (View Comment):

    From Federalist article:

    Attempts have been made to pull these diverse causalities into one model. A group of South African actuaries advised their government that a lockdown would cost 29 lives for every one life saved from the virus. A U.K. government study estimated more conservatively that the ratio would be four-to-one — with lockdowns causing 200,000 fatalities while saving only 50,000 people from death by COVID-19.

    29 to 1.

    Don,

    This would really screw up the narrative for our lefty obsessive friends. Black Africans dying because of lockdown lunacy. Gee, I thought Black Lives Matter!? Well, maybe not so much.

    Regards,

    Jim

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    • October 22, 2020, at 11:45 AM PDT
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