The Cost of Information, Good and Bad

 

Is there something about the decreasing price of information that makes it harder to sift the chaff from the wheat? I have investigated this phenomenon before with respect to poetry. The barriers to entry for writing and publishing poetry have come down significantly over the centuries, and especially over the last few decades. There is much more poetry, but not necessarily any more good poetry. Thus, it becomes more of a chore to find good new poems. (Trust me, I once published and edited a poetry magazine.) The same seems to be happening with “news” and other information sources. There seem to be more outlets serving fewer real facts. Finding these facts becomes more and more difficult.

What are you seeing out there, Ricochet?

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  1. Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosopher Contributor
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    Sisyphus (View Comment):
    The modern student reads a Shakespeare or Milton writing for an audience immersed in the classics and come away with the impression that these authors are great because they are impenetrable rather than recognizing the failure of their own educational institutions and scholarship.

    That is an excellent thought.

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  2. Sisyphus Member
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    Gary McVey (View Comment):

    Getting rid of gatekeepers is usually a good thing. Technology is usually helpful there.

    Cable bundlers (to take one example) ratcheted up prices to bring you packages including things you may not have wanted–I’d guess Logo TV would make many of your lists–and until their recent humbling, cable was pretty arrogant about it. Over the top services and streamers have taken away much of the economic security of the cable giants.

    But we should acknowledge there’s sometimes a price tag to de-bundling. Almost every local cable system in America has been guilted into carrying BET, but also channels many conservatives would like to keep alive, like EWTN, Eternal Word Television Network, which similarly would suffer if the channel was bought as an add-on instead of a free one that’s available almost everywhere.

    EWTN is available for streaming both live and on demand. No need to subsidize CNN, ESPN, et. al. to enjoy their programming. And they accept donations so you can kick them whatever you would have been wasting to subsidize all of that hate speech.

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  3. Doug Kimball Thatcher
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    Poetry, like sculpture and painting, it seems to me has lost much of its footing in the underlying use of language.  One has to wonder whether many modern poets could manage a single coherent line of prose, and yet, they are said to put down poems.  On the other hand, treacle allowing a rhyme at the end of each or every other phrase regardless of meter, is offered as poetry, which I guess it is just as stick men might be art if offered by the pen of Picasso.  And even the most revered of poets often wrote dismal stuff wallowing in hidden sentiments and overwrought metaphors.  Poetry, even in the best of times, doesn’t account for much, to say nothing of taste.  It is maddening.  And that is coming from a poet himself!  But we write on, compelled to it when an idea peaks under the mind’s tent and reveals itself.  We just hope that a reader, any reader, gets the idea when he reads.  That is the best we can hope for.

     

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  4. Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosopher Contributor
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):
    Who sold them on that idea?

    Their Proto-Indo-European ancestors. The idea of the dumb, uncultured fighting man is rather new in the history of the world.

    You might be right. I’m judging not from the history but from what I know of human nature. In every man’s soul there’s a longing for the transcendent, for  the sublime. Also in every man’s soul is the impulse to call each other gay if they admit to it.

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  5. Arahant Member
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    Sisyphus (View Comment):
    I have no firm data, but I strongly believe that Vogon poetry and culture is the inevitable product of a million years of government funded arts.

    It only takes a few.

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  6. Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosopher Contributor
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    Doug Kimball (View Comment):
    which I guess it is just as stick men might be art if offered by the pen of Picasso.

    Don Quixote (Picasso) - Wikipedia

    For all that it looks like it was done with permanent marker in five minutes it’s actually a pretty good representation of the subject matter.

    (Don Quixote by Pablo Picasso, if you haven’t already guessed.)

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  7. Arahant Member
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    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):
    Also in every man’s soul is the impulse to call each other gay if they admit to it.

    Argr.

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  8. Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosopher Contributor
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):
    Also in every man’s soul is the impulse to call each other gay if they admit to it.

    Argr.

    Well played, my dear ‘hant. Well played.

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  9. Henry Racette Member
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    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):
    Who sold them on that idea?

    Their Proto-Indo-European ancestors. The idea of the dumb, uncultured fighting man is rather new in the history of the world.

    You might be right. I’m judging not from the history but from what I know of human nature. In every man’s soul there’s a longing for the transcendent, for the sublime. Also in every man’s soul is the impulse to call each other gay if they admit to it.

    An impulse to which I yield with some regularity, usually on a phone call with my younger brother:

    Me: “Hey bro, what’s up?”

    John: “Just chiffonading the basil.”

    Me:

    John:

    Me: “So, is that a euphemism for something?”

    John: “I’m making dinner! Shut up!”

    Me: “Sounds gay.”

     

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  10. Arahant Member
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    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):
    Also in every man’s soul is the impulse to call each other gay if they admit to it.

    Argr.

    Well played, my dear ‘hant. Well played.

    You had to know that I would know how to call someone a girly-boy on Old Norse.

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  11. Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosopher Contributor
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):
    Also in every man’s soul is the impulse to call each other gay if they admit to it.

    Argr.

    Well played, my dear ‘hant. Well played.

    You had to know that I would know how to call someone a girly-boy on Old Norse.

    Hmm…

     a man has the right to kill in retaliation for these three words. He has the right to kill in retaliation on their account over the same period as he has the right to kill on account of women, in both cases up the next General Assembly.

    I don’t suppose you know when the next General assembly will be called?

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  12. Arahant Member
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    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):
    I don’t suppose you know when the next General assembly will be called?

    It’s been replaced. No longer exists.

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  13. Judge Mental Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):
    Also in every man’s soul is the impulse to call each other gay if they admit to it.

    Argr.

    Well played, my dear ‘hant. Well played.

    You had to know that I would know how to call someone a girly-boy on Old Norse.

    I just assumed that at some point you’ve been called a girly-boy in Old Norse.

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  14. Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosopher Contributor
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    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):
    (Don Quixote by Pablo Picasso, if you haven’t already guessed.)

    I’ve been using Picasso for a while now as a test case for where the line is drawn between art and crap. I think so was he.

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  15. Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosopher Contributor
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):
    I don’t suppose you know when the next General assembly will be called?

    It’s been replaced. No longer exists.

    What I’m hearing is that the right no longer expires.

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  16. Arahant Member
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    Judge Mental (View Comment):
    I just assumed that at some point you’ve been called a girly-boy in Old Norse.

    Not by anyone who survived doing so.

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  17. Arahant Member
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    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):
    (Don Quixote by Pablo Picasso, if you haven’t already guessed.)

    I’ve been using Picasso for a while now as a test case for where the line is drawn between art and crap. I think so was he.

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  18. Arahant Member
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    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):
    I don’t suppose you know when the next General assembly will be called?

    It’s been replaced. No longer exists.

    What I’m hearing is that the right no longer expires.

    Looks like it was restored in 1844.

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  19. Boss Mongo Member
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    Arahant: I have investigated this phenomenon before with respect to poetry.

    Uh, poetry is just a fancy word for limericks, right?

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  20. Percival Thatcher
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):
    That proto skald writes good poetry because he can’t do anything else.

    I disagree. When one studies Norse culture, one finds that warriors were expected to excel at poetry as well.

    It was good if you could, but splitting someone in half with a single blow has an eloquence all its own.

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  21. Sisyphus Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):
    That proto skald writes good poetry because he can’t do anything else.

    I disagree. When one studies Norse culture, one finds that warriors were expected to excel at poetry as well.

    It was good if you could, but splitting someone in half with a single blow has an eloquence all its own.

    Bragging was a major thing. The god of bards was Braga. All honor to the biggest, most energetic braggart. Not like today. 

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  22. Arahant Member
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    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Arahant: I have investigated this phenomenon before with respect to poetry.

    Uh, poetry is just a fancy word for limericks, right?

    Variations on the theme, Boss.

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  23. Boss Mongo Member
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    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):
    That proto skald writes good poetry because he can’t do anything else.

    I disagree. When one studies Norse culture, one finds that warriors were expected to excel at poetry as well.

    Who sold them on that idea?

    The chick that wouldn’t put out without a poem.

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  24. Percival Thatcher
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    Mondrian, before he became a noted linoleum pattern designer.

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  25. Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosopher Contributor
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    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):
    That proto skald writes good poetry because he can’t do anything else.

    I disagree. When one studies Norse culture, one finds that warriors were expected to excel at poetry as well.

    Who sold them on that idea?

    The chick that wouldn’t put out without a poem.

    Ain’t no gainsaying that. When the man is right he’s right.

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  26. Boss Mongo Member
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    Print by Miyamoto Musashi, allegedly the greatest samurai swordsman ever.

    Slash, thrust, cut and die

    No speed gained by thinking why

    Feet on sand or loam or in the rill

    Make the cut and get the kill

    Make the cut without a thought

    Or on the blade you will be caught.

    (PS, that’s not Musashi, that’s me.  Got motivated for a minute, there.  Got to watch that.)

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  27. Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosopher Contributor
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    Boss Mongo (View Comment):
    Got motivated for a minute, there. Got to watch that.

    While we’re on the subject of poetry, do you like Kipling?

    I’ve been told he has a following in the special forces community, and would like to verify that.

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  28. Boss Mongo Member
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    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):
    While we’re on the subject of poetry, do you like Kipling?

    I love Kipling with a love that no straight man should ever have for another man.  I’ve never read any poesy by him that didn’t have been there, done that verisimilitude.

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  29. Percival Thatcher
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    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):
    Got motivated for a minute, there. Got to watch that.

    While we’re on the subject of poetry, do you like Kipling?

    I’ve been told he has a following in the special forces community, and would like to verify that.

    I like him.

    Yes, makin’ mock o’ uniforms that guard you while you sleep
    Is cheaper than them uniforms, an’ they’re starvation cheap;
    An’ hustlin’ drunken soldiers when they’re goin’ large a bit
    Is five times better business than paradin’ in full kit.
    Then it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, ‘ow’s yer soul?”
    But it’s “Thin red line of ‘eroes” when the drums begin to roll,
    The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
    O it’s “Thin red line of ‘eroes” when the drums begin to roll.

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  30. Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosopher Contributor
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    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… (View Comment):
    While we’re on the subject of poetry, do you like Kipling?

    I love Kipling with a love that no straight man should ever have for another man. I’ve never read any poesy by him that didn’t have been there, done that verisimilitude.

    I’m caught between calling you gayer than Liberace’s pool boy as the regulations require, and wanting to live out the rest of my days with all my vital organs where the Good Lord originally put them. 

    Kipling though, that guy was every bit as good as he was supposed to be and then some.

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