That’s Not How Taxes Work

 

From Larry Correia, who is not only a bestselling author, but an accountant, on the New York Times’ Trump tax story: No, You Idiots. That’s Not How Taxes Work. – An Accountant’s Guide To Why You Are a Gullible Moron.

Of course the comments are all about the “morality” of paying your “fair share”. Which isn’t how any of this works in real life. Just stop it with your vapid hot takes already. You clearly have a child-like grasp of a complex topic, and your words are making America dumber.

As a former accountant, please allow me to explain why all of today’s newly formed tax experts are [redacted] morons, and we should metaphorically put a brick in a sock and beat them over the head with it until they shut up.

Hat tip to the priceless Instapundit, and language warning for the dewy-eyed.

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  1. Dominique Prynne Member
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    JennaStocker (View Comment):
    And the House Ways & Means Committee is the greatest shaper of social behavior the government has.

    Yep!  As a kid, one of my dreams was to become the chair of the Senate Finance Committee.  (I was a weird kid with this weird dream).  I wanted to emulate Russell Long, the Senator from the Great State of Louisiana who was the then chair and I was just a knobby-kneed kid growing up in the pine curtain of north Louisiana who thought it was amazing that someone from where I was from was so powerful.  I got the idea that if you controlled the purse strings, you controlled the world!  While my dream may have been silly, the principle is sound.

    I eventually got an accounting degree, a master’s degree in taxation, a law degree and a CPA license.  I guess I am kinda qualified for the job.  Anywho…Larry Correia has said exactly what I was thinking…just more colorfully!

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  2. JennaStocker Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Two questions.

    First, does it concern you that Trump has twice blown $400 million fortunes?

    Second, does it concern you that Trump owes $300 million in debts that he must repay in the next three years, and we have no idea who he owes it to?

    No to both for me. The personal finances of my fellow Americans are none of my business, as my finances are none of my neighbors’ business. There’s no criminal activity reported and it’s not for lack of trying on the media or government’s part. I’m much, much more concerned that the IRS has so much power as to destroy the lives of individuals (sometimes just by way of audits that make colonoscopies look pleasant and come up with nothing) and are not held accountable for targeted attacks against conservative groups, as has been well documented.

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  3. Boss Mongo Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Two questions.

    First, does it concern you that Trump has twice blown $400 million fortunes?

    Second, does it concern you that Trump owes $300 million in debts that he must repay in the next three years, and we have no idea who he owes it to?

    Nope & nope.

    Next question.

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  4. EJHill Podcaster
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    Gary Robbins: Two questions.

    No to both. Businesses like Trump’s, real estate and hospitality, are so easily crippled by outside events. Take the current climate. How many fortunes are teetering on the edge because of COVID? It doesn’t necessarily reflect on the business acumen of anyone who “fails” in the current climate. 

    A lot of folks ignorantly point to Trump’s Atlantic City failures as being aberrant. They never mention the other failures in the same market. 

    As Rob Long likes to point out, if you owe a million dollars YOU have a problem. If you owe $300M dollars the BANK has a problem. 

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  5. Miffed White Male Member
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins: Two questions.

    No to both. Businesses like Trump’s, real estate and hospitality, are so easily crippled by outside events. Take the current climate. How many fortunes are teetering on the edge because of COVID? It doesn’t necessarily reflect on the business acumen of anyone who “fails” in the current climate.

    A lot of folks ignorantly point to Trump’s Atlantic City failures as being aberrant. They never mention the other failures in the same market.

    As Rob Long likes to point out, if you owe a million dollars YOU have a problem. If you owe $300M dollars the BANK has a problem.

    If you don’t have failures in your business career, you’re not very good at business, or you’re not trying hard enough.  One of the reasons I’m a wage slave instead of an entrepreneur is I don’t have the risk tolerance for the failures.

     

     

     

     

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  6. Right Wing Teamster Lawyer Inactive
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    Right Wing Teamster Lawyer (View Comment):

    I wonder if someone hacked http://monsterhunternation.com/ ? Tried to get to the site and all give the “This site This site can’t be reached” message.

    Well, it’s up again so must have been overwhelmed.

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  7. Steven Seward Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Two questions.

    First, does it concern you that Trump has twice blown $400 million fortunes?

    Second, does it concern you that Trump owes $300 million in debts that he must repay in the next three years, and we have no idea who he owes it to?

    No.  What really concerns me is that Trump said “there were good people on both sides” and that he tweeted the word “Covfefe.”  How can anyone vote for someone like that!  <end sarc>

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  8. TBA Coolidge
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    Fair share arguments prop up the illusion that taxes are about revenue.

    Taxes in the modern Western World serve two purposes:

    1. They are about control. If you engage in the behavior the government approves of they will give you a break on the taxes. If you engage in behavior they disapprove of they will tax you more, either through denying you the breaks or outright taxing the behavior.
    2. They create a demand for currency. Why do you take pieces of paper with dead people on them in exchange for your labor? Because eventually the government is going to demand you pay your pound of flesh and they will only take that currency in return. That’s why, even if you were to accept something else in return for your work, the government will put a currency value on that.

    Barter should be considered ‘natural law’. 

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  9. TBA Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Two questions.

    First, does it concern you that Trump has twice blown $400 million fortunes?

    Second, does it concern you that Trump owes $300 million in debts that he must repay in the next three years, and we have no idea who he owes it to?

    No.

    There are many people who have similar distinctions and, absent my having been cheated by them, it’s not my business as a matter of law. 

    And frankly, a cavalier attitude towards large sums of money is a prerequisite for presidential office. 

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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    One of the points of the New York Times article was that Trump has paid only $750 in taxes after he got into office. They conveniently leave out the fact that Trump donates his entire presidential salary of $400,000 back to the government every year. This is virtually the same as paying $400,000 in taxes every year. At the end of this year that would be a total of $1.6 Million paid in four years.

    I wonder how they will explain this one in an unflattering way?

    They would probably try to claim it’s a bribe, “please don’t come after me after I leave office!”

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  11. The Reticulator Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Two questions.

    First, does it concern you that Trump has twice blown $400 million fortunes?

    Second, does it concern you that Trump owes $300 million in debts that he must repay in the next three years, and we have no idea who he owes it to?

    I’d have to have a reason to be concerned, and I’m drawing a blank. 

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  12. PHCheese Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Two questions.

    First, does it concern you that Trump has twice blown $400 million fortunes?

    Second, does it concern you that Trump owes $300 million in debts that he must repay in the next three years, and we have no idea who he owes it to?

    And your not concerned that the Biden family has received millions of dollars from foreign governments, the Ukraine, China and Romania.  I don’t worry about a man coming to government already rich, I worry about a man coming to government spending 47 years and leaving rich.

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  13. kedavis Coolidge
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    PHCheese (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Two questions.

    First, does it concern you that Trump has twice blown $400 million fortunes?

    Second, does it concern you that Trump owes $300 million in debts that he must repay in the next three years, and we have no idea who he owes it to?

    And your not concerned that the Biden family has received millions of dollars from foreign governments, the Ukraine, China and Romania. I don’t worry about a man coming to government already rich, I worry about a man coming to government spending 47 years and leaving rich.

    How about  man so dim that it takes him 47 years in government to become rich?

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  14. Paul Stinchfield Member
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    Right Wing Teamster Lawyer (View Comment):

    Right Wing Teamster Lawyer (View Comment):

    I wonder if someone hacked http://monsterhunternation.com/ ? Tried to get to the site and all give the “This site This site can’t be reached” message.

    Well, it’s up again so must have been overwhelmed.

    Yes: Glenn Reynolds and Scott Adams both picked it up, and the resulting instalanch brought down Larry’s blog.

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  15. MiMac Thatcher
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    I am also amazed by the intense  attention to Republican candidate’s income & taxes by the media and the complete lack of interest in the Democrats income/taxes. Joe Biden used an S corporation to avoid paying SS and Medicare taxes on ~$13+ million in speaking fees and book revenues since leaving office. The lack of follow up on that issue would never happen to a GOP candidate- they would scream he ripped off grandma.

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  16. The Reticulator Member
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    PHCheese (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Two questions.

    First, does it concern you that Trump has twice blown $400 million fortunes?

    Second, does it concern you that Trump owes $300 million in debts that he must repay in the next three years, and we have no idea who he owes it to?

    And your not concerned that the Biden family has received millions of dollars from foreign governments, the Ukraine, China and Romania. I don’t worry about a man coming to government already rich, I worry about a man coming to government spending 47 years and leaving rich.

    Now that is something I worry about. 

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  17. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    Stad (View Comment):

    I love his take on tax “loopholes.” A loophole is merely something in the law someone doesn’t like, period.

    It’s really cute how politicians will create tax incentives to encourage behavior, like building windmills, hiring the handicapped or whatever.  Then when a company or a wealthy individual does the activity Congress wanted and takes the tax credit or deduction, the politicians become indignant.  It’s like hiring someone to do a job and then acting offended because they had the gall to cash the paycheck.

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  18. kedavis Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    PHCheese (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Two questions.

    First, does it concern you that Trump has twice blown $400 million fortunes?

    Second, does it concern you that Trump owes $300 million in debts that he must repay in the next three years, and we have no idea who he owes it to?

    And your not concerned that the Biden family has received millions of dollars from foreign governments, the Ukraine, China and Romania. I don’t worry about a man coming to government already rich, I worry about a man coming to government spending 47 years and leaving rich.

    Now that is something I worry about.

    Again, How about man so dim that it takes him 47 years in government to become rich?

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  19. Charlotte Member
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    Randy Weivoda (View Comment):
    It’s like hiring someone to do a job and then acting offended because they had the gall to cash the paycheck.

    Perfect.

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  20. The Reticulator Member
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    EJHill (View Comment):
    Why do you take pieces of paper with dead people on them in exchange for your labor?

    There isn’t enough room for dead people on the pieces of paper I accept.  

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  21. Douglas Pratt Coolidge
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    Right Wing Teamster Lawyer (View Comment):

    I wonder if someone hacked http://monsterhunternation.com/ ? Tried to get to the site and all give the “This site This site can’t be reached” message.

    Between the Instalanche, the mention on Scott Adams podcast, and all the other references, it crashed the server. Larry is changing web hosting companies because of the response he got to the crash.

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  22. Bishop Wash Member
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    I saw on Twitter that Ricochet reached out to invite Larry on the flagship podcast. I wonder if he responded.

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  23. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    I saw on Twitter that Ricochet reached out to invite Larry on the flagship podcast. I wonder if he responded.

    That would be awesome.  I’ve seen Larry a couple times at science fiction conventions and he’s terrific.

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