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In this morning’s news feed from Military.com, I saw the below article concerning a proposed presentation at the Army’s Redstone Arsenal. I was reminded of the presentation slides at the Smithsonian Institute a few weeks back however, in some ways, this one is even worse.

Take a look at those traits which may identify you as being guilty of “Covert White Supremacy.” (I’m still pondering “Respectability Politics” and “Spiritual Bypassing” and if I’m guilty of them.)

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  1. Ekosj Member

     Christ on a crutch. Denying you are a racist is proof you are a racist. Who writes this stuff, Joseph Heller? It’s Catch-1619

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    • September 24, 2020, at 10:45 AM PDT
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  2. Jim Chase Member
    Jim ChaseJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    For what it’s worth, this was back in July, just as similar graphics were making the ubiquitous rounds on social media. It was “pounced on” almost immediately, and pulled from the deck. Possibly a contractor stuck it in, albeit likely probably with someone’s approval. My understanding was that it never made another appearance in the listening sessions, but I have nothing available to confirm it. I’ve not been able to find anything more recent that follows up on the report, or subsequent investigation.

    Initiatives like Project Inclusion are just the latest incarnations of such diversity initiatives – the military is no more immune than any other government or corporate institution. It’s just a lot dicier, because diversity has become a political issue, and the military is supposed to be (organizationally) apolitical.

    That it came to light first in Mo’s district, that was just “lucky”. Anywhere else, you might never have heard about it.

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    • September 24, 2020, at 10:53 AM PDT
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  3. Boss Mongo Member

    The article says it’s moving the program through all 4-star commands. Interesting that it does not say that those 4-stars will then be required to have the training trickle down through their subordinate echelons.

    Also, I’d be will to bet (no evidence, just a little time walking around this particular block) that the vast majority of the personnel working at Redstone are civilians, with just a smattering of military personnel.

    There’s probably a split between civilian contractors and Department of the Army (i.e., GS) civilians.

    The contractors cannot be required to go to the training. The contractors’ companies are supposed to provide with all the “on board” training required to participate in the efforts of the military organization. If the military doesn’t put those prerequisite training requirements into the Performance Work Statement that is the foundation of the contract, then they are out of luck.

    As for the GS civilians, if they’re not industrial vacuum level gutsuckers, and they’ve logged more than a year in DA civilian status, they cannot be fired for, up to and including committing some crimes, not attending training. And their union is pretty solid.

    I’m not in any way a fan of public sector unions, but if the military department wants to fire someone for not attending (unvetted and controversial) training, good luck with that.

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    • September 24, 2020, at 11:04 AM PDT
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  4. CACrabtree Coolidge
    CACrabtree

    Jim Chase (View Comment):

    For what it’s worth, this was back in July, just as similar graphics were making the ubiquitous rounds on social media. It was “pounced on” almost immediately, and pulled from the deck. A contractor stuck it in, albeit likely probably with someone’s approval. My understanding was that it never made another appearance in the listening sessions, but I have nothing available to confirm it. I’ve not been able to find anything locally or more recent that follows up on the report, or subsequent investigation.

    Initiatives like Project Inclusion are just the latest incarnations of such diversity initiatives – the military is no more immune than any other government or corporate institution. It’s just a lot dicier, because diversity has become a political issue, and the military is supposed to be (organizationally) apolitical.

    That it came to light first here in Mo’s district, that was just lucky. Anywhere else, you might never have heard about it.

    Yeah, that slide didn’t make it into the presentation without someone’s approval.

    What gets my knickers into a twist, more than anything else, is that we have a lot of 18 year olds who enlist with the intention of serving their country. Some of them are potential fire eaters who want to be challenged and actually look forward to being pushed to their limits. Being subjected to &#$@ such as this is an insult to them.

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    • September 24, 2020, at 11:11 AM PDT
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  5. Tex929rr Coolidge

    @cacrabtree, USAF Social Actions office briefings were mandatory at every PCS as far back as the 70’s during my enlisted service and the 80’s for my commissioned service. Several of the briefers I remember would have likely been on board with this sort of stuff. Maybe it’s changed but those briefings were the kind of thing where you kept your mouth shut (ans restrained your eyes from doing barrel rolls) and waited for them to sign off on your inprocessing checklist. 

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    • September 24, 2020, at 12:46 PM PDT
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  6. CACrabtree Coolidge
    CACrabtree

    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    @cacrabtree, USAF Social Actions office briefings were mandatory at every PCS as far back as the 70’s during my enlisted service and the 80’s for my commissioned service. Several of the briefers I remember would have likely been on board with this sort of stuff. Maybe it’s changed but those briefings were the kind of thing where you kept your mouth shut (ans restrained your eyes from doing barrel rolls) and waited for them to sign off on your inprocessing checklist.

    Yup, I remember them well. I recall one briefing which was a presentation to SNCO’s only. The presenter, an E-5, came out with the remark of, “Remember, some of your junior enlisted personnel have come from households that have never had an alarm clock.”

    Her next few sentences were drowned out by a series of snickers and a few catcalls. I think the rest of the presentation lasted about 5 minutes.

    Still, that nonsense was small potatoes compared to what’s happening in the military today.

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    • September 24, 2020, at 2:31 PM PDT
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  7. MartinB Coolidge

    CACrabtree (View Comment):

    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    @cacrabtree, USAF Social Actions office briefings were mandatory at every PCS as far back as the 70’s during my enlisted service and the 80’s for my commissioned service. Several of the briefers I remember would have likely been on board with this sort of stuff. Maybe it’s changed but those briefings were the kind of thing where you kept your mouth shut (ans restrained your eyes from doing barrel rolls) and waited for them to sign off on your inprocessing checklist.

    Yup, I remember them well. I recall one briefing which was a presentation to SNCO’s only. The presenter, an E-5, came out with the remark of, “Remember, some of your junior enlisted personnel have come from households that have never had an alarm clock.”

    Her next few sentences were drowned out by a series of snickers and a few catcalls. I think the rest of the presentation lasted about 5 minutes.

    Still, that nonsense was small potatoes compared to what’s happening in the military today.

    Cro-Magnons didn’t have alarm clocks either. And yet, if a clan chief told his clansmen that they had to be up, armed and ready at the crack of dawn for the next day’s mammoth hunt, you could bet your life that every one of them would be up, armed and ready at the crack of dawn. How did they do it?

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    • September 24, 2020, at 4:00 PM PDT
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  8. Tex929rr Coolidge

    MartinB (View Comment):

     

    Cro-Magnons didn’t have alarm clocks either. And yet, if a clan chief told his clansmen that they had to be up, armed and ready at the crack of dawn for the next day’s mammoth hunt, you could bet your life that every one of them would be up, armed and ready at the crack of dawn. How did they do it?

    They drank lots of water and were up every hour. A survival school instructor once called it the now surely banned “Indian alarm clock”.

     

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    • September 24, 2020, at 5:02 PM PDT
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  9. CACrabtree Coolidge
    CACrabtree

    MartinB (View Comment):

    CACrabtree (View Comment):

    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    @cacrabtree, USAF Social Actions office briefings were mandatory at every PCS as far back as the 70’s during my enlisted service and the 80’s for my commissioned service. Several of the briefers I remember would have likely been on board with this sort of stuff. Maybe it’s changed but those briefings were the kind of thing where you kept your mouth shut (ans restrained your eyes from doing barrel rolls) and waited for them to sign off on your inprocessing checklist.

    Yup, I remember them well. I recall one briefing which was a presentation to SNCO’s only. The presenter, an E-5, came out with the remark of, “Remember, some of your junior enlisted personnel have come from households that have never had an alarm clock.”

    Her next few sentences were drowned out by a series of snickers and a few catcalls. I think the rest of the presentation lasted about 5 minutes.

    Still, that nonsense was small potatoes compared to what’s happening in the military today.

    Cro-Magnons didn’t have alarm clocks either. And yet, if a clan chief told his clansmen that they had to be up, armed and ready at the crack of dawn for the next day’s mammoth hunt, you could bet your life that every one of them would be up, armed and ready at the crack of dawn. How did they do it?

    I suspect that any Cro-Magnon that didn’t show up on time probably got staked out for Mammoth bait.

    One of the “golden rules” of the military is to be everywhere on time. “If you’re not early your’re late.”

    When the Social Actions presenter came out with that idiotic statement, the entire exercise was shown to be a waste. Little did I know how bad things were going to be.

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    • September 24, 2020, at 5:13 PM PDT
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  10. PHCheese Member

    MartinB (View Comment):

    CACrabtree (View Comment):

    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    @cacrabtree, USAF Social Actions office briefings were mandatory at every PCS as far back as the 70’s during my enlisted service and the 80’s for my commissioned service. Several of the briefers I remember would have likely been on board with this sort of stuff. Maybe it’s changed but those briefings were the kind of thing where you kept your mouth shut (ans restrained your eyes from doing barrel rolls) and waited for them to sign off on your inprocessing checklist.

    Yup, I remember them well. I recall one briefing which was a presentation to SNCO’s only. The presenter, an E-5, came out with the remark of, “Remember, some of your junior enlisted personnel have come from households that have never had an alarm clock.”

    Her next few sentences were drowned out by a series of snickers and a few catcalls. I think the rest of the presentation lasted about 5 minutes.

    Still, that nonsense was small potatoes compared to what’s happening in the military today.

    Cro-Magnons didn’t have alarm clocks either. And yet, if a clan chief told his clansmen that they had to be up, armed and ready at the crack of dawn for the next day’s mammoth hunt, you could bet your life that every one of them would be up, armed and ready at the crack of dawn. How did they do it?

    What can we expect after 8 years of Obama? Couldn’t see this coming?

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    • September 24, 2020, at 6:14 PM PDT
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  11. Boss Mongo Member

    CACrabtree (View Comment):
    I suspect that any Cro-Magnon that didn’t show up on time probably got staked out for Mammoth bait.

    During the Lewis & Clark expedition, the two O’s (Lewis and Clark) mostly left discipline to the democratic votes of the troops. When they caught someone sleeping during his shift of camp security during the night, the troops voted that that cat got one hundred lashes. Basically a death sentence. L&C commuted the sentence, to be imposed if it ever happened again. Worked for them (Source: Stephen Ambrose, Undaunted Courage).

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    • September 24, 2020, at 6:54 PM PDT
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  12. CACrabtree Coolidge
    CACrabtree

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    CACrabtree (View Comment):
    I suspect that any Cro-Magnon that didn’t show up on time probably got staked out for Mammoth bait.

    During the Lewis & Clark expedition, the two O’s (Lewis and Clark) mostly left discipline to the democratic votes of the troops. When they caught someone sleeping during his shift of camp security during the night, the troops voted that that cat got one hundred lashes. Basically a death sentence. L&C commuted the sentence, to be imposed if it ever happened again. Worked for them (Source: Stephen Ambrose, Undaunted Courage).

    Solid encouragement to stay awake on guard duty…

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    • September 24, 2020, at 7:16 PM PDT
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  13. Kozak Member
    KozakJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Ekosj (View Comment):

    Christ on a crutch. Denying you are a racist is proof you are a racist. Who writes this stuff, Joseph Heller? It’s Catch-1619

    “Calling the police on Black people”

    And they talk about White privilege ?

    And that one is just below the “unacceptable” line with saying n###er and being a KKK member.

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    • September 25, 2020, at 3:49 AM PDT
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  14. Kozak Member
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    Boss Mongo (View Comment):
    The contractors cannot be required to go to the training. The contractors’ companies are supposed to provide with all the “on board” training required to participate in the efforts of the military organization. If the military doesn’t put those prerequisite training requirements into the Performance Work Statement that is the foundation of the contract, then they are out of luck.

    I wish I had been aware of that.

    I was a contractor employee at Ft Bragg.

    When they added the Trannie Training we were forced to do it.

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    • September 25, 2020, at 3:52 AM PDT
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  15. Stad Thatcher

    Someone please tell the Commander-In-Chief he should put a stop this right now . . .

    Update: It looks like he has done so:

    https://ricochet.com/805366/another-real-advance-in-the-culture-war-counteroffensive/

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    • September 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM PDT
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