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I wonder how many Democrat voters are thinking, “Golly, Joe Biden is going to be a great president! I can’t wait to vote for him!” On the other hand, I wonder how many Democrat voters see Biden as an old, corrupt man with dementia who will be replaced ASAP after the election, so they know that they’re really voting for Kamala Harris.

Part of me thinks that it might be better if the Democrats make the switch before the election. Trump will tear Biden apart in debates etc, although I’m not sure how much that matters. But honestly, if Democrat voters will intentionally vote for Hillary Clinton, I can’t imagine who they would find repellent enough that they would reconsider their vote. So why not run Biden? Whatever. But again, I wonder how many Democrat voters understand that this is the plan.

I mean, that is the plan, right? Nobody in the leadership of the Democratic Party really thinks that Joe Biden can serve as president, right? So they know that they’re really running Harris. Right?

To be fair, in the 2016 election, many Republican voters voted for Trump even though they didn’t like him. People like me, for example. They didn’t like Trump, but the thought of an unlikable dishonest serial felon communist in the highest office in the land made them queasy. So they voted for Trump.

Would they have done so if Trump had been suffering from dementia? If he got confused answering simple questions? If they knew that Pence was going to take over immediately?

Maybe. Our fear of Hillary may be similar to the left’s fear of Trump.

But still, generating enthusiasm for Joe Biden is not so easy. Donald Trump is a force of nature. Love him or hate him, he just exudes energy and enthusiasm. He was rocking into the 2016 election to sold-out rallies with excited people packing big stadiums.

Meanwhile, the most effective pitch that Democrats can make for Joe Biden is, “C’mon – he’s mostly harmless! He was been in DC for nearly 50 years! He really doesn’t care anymore! He wasn’t that sharp to begin with, and now, shoot, he spends most of the day watching ‘The Price is Right’ reruns in his basement! And he won’t actually do all those things he said he was going to do to families and the working class – heck, by tomorrow morning, he won’t even remember what those things were! So really – Trump is dangerous, and Biden is clueless. Wouldn’t you feel better with clueless? So Biden 2020, baby! Yay!”

I really think that is their entire election strategy. The Democrat platform, on a bumper sticker. Trump is dangerous, and Biden is clueless. Vote for clueless.

Perhaps Democrat voters across the country really understand that they’re voting for Kamala Harris. Perhaps they know who she really is. Perhaps.

But I don’t think so.

They think they’re voting for a clueless old man. Harmless. They think they’re voting for, essentially, nothing. Just a break from Donald Trump, who CNN says is racist and evil. So they’re voting for a clueless old man.

But they’re getting a far-left radical firebrand who seeks to fundamentally change America into something between China and Venezuela.

Imagine their surprise.

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  1. DonG (skeptic) Coolidge

    Dr. Bastiat: it might be better if the Democrats make the switch before the election

    That is not really practical. Enough of the states have ballot candidates locked in that an electoral college victory is effectively impossible with a switch. I assume a write-in is a losing idea. 

    I did hear about a survey that said 56% of voters don’t expect Biden to make it through a first term.

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    • September 18, 2020, at 1:55 PM PDT
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  2. Percival Thatcher
    PercivalJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    But vote for a Democrat so clueless that the other Democrats notice? That might be a bridge too far.

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    • September 18, 2020, at 1:56 PM PDT
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  3. Kozak Member
    KozakJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    • #3
    • September 18, 2020, at 2:02 PM PDT
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  4. OccupantCDN Coolidge

    DonG (skeptic) (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: it might be better if the Democrats make the switch before the election

    That is not really practical. Enough of the states have ballot candidates locked in that an electoral college victory is effectively impossible with a switch. I assume a write-in is a losing idea.

    I did hear about a survey that said 56% of voters don’t expect Biden to make it through a first term.

    No, if elected he’d never serve.

    In order to avoid the complications of the official succession, they’ll force him out before inauguration.

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    • September 18, 2020, at 2:07 PM PDT
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  5. EODmom Coolidge

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    DonG (skeptic) (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: it might be better if the Democrats make the switch before the election

    That is not really practical. Enough of the states have ballot candidates locked in that an electoral college victory is effectively impossible with a switch. I assume a write-in is a losing idea.

    I did hear about a survey that said 56% of voters don’t expect Biden to make it through a first term.

    No, if elected he’d never serve.

    In order to avoid the complications of the official succession, they’ll force him out before inauguration.

    How does that work? How can someone succeed to an office who hasn’t been inaugurated?

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    • September 18, 2020, at 2:27 PM PDT
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  6. Kozak Member
    KozakJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    DonG (skeptic) (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: it might be better if the Democrats make the switch before the election

    That is not really practical. Enough of the states have ballot candidates locked in that an electoral college victory is effectively impossible with a switch. I assume a write-in is a losing idea.

    I did hear about a survey that said 56% of voters don’t expect Biden to make it through a first term.

    I guarantee you that if the Democrats pull that stunt they will find a ton of judges who will go along regardless of the state laws.

    Just remember what they did in New Jersey with the Senate….

    “TRENTON, New Jersey (CNN) — Gov. Jim McGreevey announced Tuesday that former Sen. Frank Lautenberg would replace scandal-tainted incumbent Robert Torricelli as candidate for the U.S. Senate seat in the November elections, after Torricelli’s sudden withdrawal from the race.

    McGreevey said the state’s Democratic leadership would formally file a petition for Lautenberg’s candidacy as soon as the state Supreme Court approved the change in candidates.”

     

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    • September 18, 2020, at 2:32 PM PDT
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  7. Bishop Wash Member

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    DonG (skeptic) (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: it might be better if the Democrats make the switch before the election

    That is not really practical. Enough of the states have ballot candidates locked in that an electoral college victory is effectively impossible with a switch. I assume a write-in is a losing idea.

    I did hear about a survey that said 56% of voters don’t expect Biden to make it through a first term.

    No, if elected he’d never serve.

    In order to avoid the complications of the official succession, they’ll force him out before inauguration.

    When I mentioned William Henry Harrison once in regards to Biden, someone mentioned Horace Greeley. I had to look him up. He lost his presidential bid and then died a few weeks later. When does Biden leave the scene?

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    • September 18, 2020, at 2:32 PM PDT
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  8. Jon1979 Lincoln

    The rationale towards Biden was always the swing voters — the hardcore Democrats don’t care who’s running against Trump, but the party was worried without the fig leaf of moderation Joe supposedly would provide, a campaign with Bernie (or Liz Warren) at the top of the ticket would scare moderates into sticking with the devil then knew and voting for Trump.

    That’s likely still the situation today — Warren was Biden’s pandering compromise pick for VP, who was designed to assuage some factions on the left while filling Joe’s promise to name a black woman as his running mate. If the Democrats thought she could stand on her own, they might be mumblings and making a change now, but her selection was met with a collective yawn by black voters and some of the more racial neighborhoods of the Democratic Party still don’t like Harris simply because she wasn’t radical enough as a DA in the Bay Area or as AG in California.

    So Freudian slips (faux or not) about a Harris/Biden administration may be a way to comfort the base about the reality of 2021, in the same way the base knew Barack Obama was lying about being a moderate to lure in swing voters in 2008. But actually canning Joe before election day and making Harris the nominee wouldn’t even generate excitement in Caifornia, let alone the rest of the country, so the only way that happens is if Biden’s mental problems explode into public and he immolates himself at the debates, to the point no “Biden destroyed Trump tonight” media spin can fool the swing voters.

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    • September 18, 2020, at 3:25 PM PDT
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  9. OccupantCDN Coolidge

    EODmom (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    DonG (skeptic) (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: it might be better if the Democrats make the switch before the election

    That is not really practical. Enough of the states have ballot candidates locked in that an electoral college victory is effectively impossible with a switch. I assume a write-in is a losing idea.

    I did hear about a survey that said 56% of voters don’t expect Biden to make it through a first term.

    No, if elected he’d never serve.

    In order to avoid the complications of the official succession, they’ll force him out before inauguration.

    How does that work? How can someone succeed to an office who hasn’t been inaugurated?

    Fair points. Maybe Harris is also just a place holder as well. Maybe after the election the house votes in 2 people whom the public hasnt even considered for the office. Maybe this is Hillary’s plan to take the White House back.

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    • September 18, 2020, at 3:30 PM PDT
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  10. Bishop Wash Member

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    DonG (skeptic) (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: it might be better if the Democrats make the switch before the election

    That is not really practical. Enough of the states have ballot candidates locked in that an electoral college victory is effectively impossible with a switch. I assume a write-in is a losing idea.

    I did hear about a survey that said 56% of voters don’t expect Biden to make it through a first term.

    No, if elected he’d never serve.

    In order to avoid the complications of the official succession, they’ll force him out before inauguration.

    How does that work? How can someone succeed to an office who hasn’t been inaugurated?

    Fair points. Maybe Harris is also just a place holder as well. Maybe after the election the house votes in 2 people whom the public hasnt even considered for the office. Maybe this is Hillary’s plan to take the White House back.

    A small part of me won’t believe that Hillary is out of politics until she’s dead and buried. Even then, I’ve seen some horror films so I still won’t trust that she’s gone. 

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    • September 18, 2020, at 4:35 PM PDT
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  11. Addiction Is A Choice Member

    Dr. Bastiat: Imagine their surprise

    Imagine my surprise: I get off work and there are three new Dr. Bastiat posts to read!

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    • September 18, 2020, at 7:32 PM PDT
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  12. CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker Coolidge

    Percival (View Comment):

    But vote for a Democrat so clueless that the other Democrats notice? That might be a bridge too far.

    Democrats see Biden as remarkably coherent. They post their home town celebrations of Biden visiting. (Never mind that there are only a dozen cars in the parade.)

    The Dems are not afraid of being clueless. They spent the entire summer demonstrating how clueless they are, as AntiFa and BLM looted and burned their way through thirty towns or more. The response of mayors and city councils to the mayhem was to de-fund the police.

    This is not a party blessed with gifted thinkers.

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    • September 19, 2020, at 12:55 AM PDT
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  13. Buckpasser Member
    BuckpasserJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    DonG (skeptic) (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: it might be better if the Democrats make the switch before the election

    That is not really practical. Enough of the states have ballot candidates locked in that an electoral college victory is effectively impossible with a switch. I assume a write-in is a losing idea.

    I did hear about a survey that said 56% of voters don’t expect Biden to make it through a first term.

    No, if elected he’d never serve.

    In order to avoid the complications of the official succession, they’ll force him out before inauguration.

    How does that work? How can someone succeed to an office who hasn’t been inaugurated?

    Fair points. Maybe Harris is also just a place holder as well. Maybe after the election the house votes in 2 people whom the public hasnt even considered for the office. Maybe this is Hillary’s plan to take the White House back.

    I have said in this forum many times that a vote for Biden is a vote for BLM, AOC and Pelosi. Who the front man (person) is a mystery (not Harris).

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    • September 19, 2020, at 11:47 AM PDT
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  14. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
    Joseph StankoJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Dr. Bastiat: But they’re getting a far-left radical firebrand who seeks to fundamentally change America into something between China and Venezuela.

    I don’t really think that’s accurate. She tried to position herself in the left/socialist lane during the primaries, but it didn’t really fly with the Democrat primary voters who considered her too moderate for their tastes.

    In any case I don’t think she’s a true believer, my read is that she’s a career politician with incredible ambition who will say or do anything she thinks will help her win the next election.

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    • September 19, 2020, at 3:43 PM PDT
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  15. CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker Coolidge

    Joseph Stanko (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: But they’re getting a far-left radical firebrand who seeks to fundamentally change America into something between China and Venezuela.

    I don’t really think that’s accurate. She tried to position herself in the left/socialist lane during the primaries, but it didn’t really fly with the Democrat primary voters who considered her too moderate for their tastes.

    In any case I don’t think she’s a true believer, my read is that she’s a career politician with incredible ambition who will say or do anything she thinks will help her win the next election.

    Harris is not really a moderate or anything but a liar. She has reversed herself on so many issues it is hard to say what she believes.

    If the CCP sent her enough gold bars she would out AOC, if that was what was required.

    A tweet summed her up: “As President, I would ensure every American got a free 10 x 10 room to live in, with 3 free meals to go along with it.”

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    • September 19, 2020, at 8:34 PM PDT
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  16. Flicker Coolidge

    CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker (View Comment):

    Joseph Stanko (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: But they’re getting a far-left radical firebrand who seeks to fundamentally change America into something between China and Venezuela.

    I don’t really think that’s accurate. She tried to position herself in the left/socialist lane during the primaries, but it didn’t really fly with the Democrat primary voters who considered her too moderate for their tastes.

    In any case I don’t think she’s a true believer, my read is that she’s a career politician with incredible ambition who will say or do anything she thinks will help her win the next election.

    Harris is not really a moderate or anything but a liar. She has reversed herself on so many issues it is hard to say what she believes.

    If the CCP sent her enough gold bars she would out AOC, if that was what was required.

    A tweet summed her up: “As President, I would ensure every American got a free 10 x 10 room to live in, with 3 free meals to go along with it.”

    This is sarcasm, right? That’s three hots, but she left out the cot and the squat.

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    • September 19, 2020, at 11:13 PM PDT
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